12/3 Happy Birthday Jerry

2009-12-02 Thread Erika L. Rich
Happy Birthday Jerry Hope you have a good one. :) ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-comm

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Maureen
Completely out of content. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Sam wrote: > > Does this statement ring a bell? > >>> Perhaps that is all it was, but what it has become the red herring >>> with which the opponents can derail the entire dialogue on climate >>> change. > > Or by calling the exposure a

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
Does this statement ring a bell? >> Perhaps that is all it was, but what it has become the red herring >> with which the opponents can derail the entire dialogue on climate >> change. Or by calling the exposure a red herring you really meant tuna? On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Maureen wrot

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > Climate change could be caused by > aliens hiding on the dark side of the moon. It could be caused by all the > hot air spewed by Al Gore about global warming. Without data, could means > nothing and it looks like the data is pretty suspec

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Common sense tells me that climate change that occurred when no humans inhabited the earth, could not possibly be caused by humans. But climate change that occurs while humans do inhabit the earth, could be because by our activities...and that the two are not necessarily linked, and certainly one

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Maureen
I don't recall ever commenting at all on Bush and science, but this is hardly the first time you've attributed stuff to me that I never said. And I defy you find any comment I have made in this discussion that excuses the skewing of data by either side. Ass. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Sam

Re: Richard Lindzen on Climate Science and Global Warming

2009-12-02 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Larry wrote: > > Problem is he's arguing from authority rather than the quality of the data. > > In other words, he thinks that because this guy's a "scientist" and > cool then he must be right. > Actually, the people at the center of the scandal are the ones ar

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
I can't believe you had to explain that :) Are you talking about all graphs or just the ones you don't agree with? On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Maureen wrote: > > It's a math insult:   "You drew the curves, then plotted the points". > In other words, you made the data fit the assumption.  U

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Scott Stew wrote: > > Like I said to Hatton, if these emails empirically proved that Global > Warming existed the three of you (you, Rob and Hatton) would be all over > them like white on rice trying to dismiss or disprove them any way you > could, factually or ot

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
Maps from the same data you seem to be defending. You've pretty much said you don't trust any data points so why do you ask for them. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Maureen wrote: > > No, you gave some links to a bunch of unsubstantiated graphs on some > websites. That's not data, it's spin.

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Maureen wrote: > > So, just newspaper articles. Still no data. > > now you are just being difficult. if you'd like to dig through the climateaudit site and find the links to the data, feel free. ~

RE: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:19 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Console Game Suggestions. > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Jim Davis wrote: > ... > > I'm "kiwidust" on PSN - feel free to friend/ping

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Maureen
It's a math insult: "You drew the curves, then plotted the points". In other words, you made the data fit the assumption. Unfortunately, the practice has escaped from the math world and become ubiquitous, especially in media and internet discussions. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Larry C. Ly

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Maureen
No, you gave some links to a bunch of unsubstantiated graphs on some websites. That's not data, it's spin. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Sam wrote: > > I gave you data > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> So, just newspaper articles.  Still no data ~~~

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
After reading some of the emails I'm glad he had the foresight. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Sam I don't have to prove anything. Its been hashed out before and > demonstrated quite conclusively that the Shrubbery actively interfered > with scientific reports - to th

Re: Chris Matthews calls West Point the "enemy camp" for Obama

2009-12-02 Thread Bruce Sorge
To be fair, 41 started it. Clinton took it too far. Sam wrote: > That was Clinton. > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> Remember who cut benefits, pay and sent the soldiers into combat with >> very inadequate equipment? >> ~~

Re: Chris Matthews calls West Point the "enemy camp" for Obama

2009-12-02 Thread Bruce Sorge
I would not say they fucked us. But things have been better. I do not see Obama doing much better. I mean, three months to figure out what he wants to do? And then does not listen to his general and gives him 10K LESS troops than he wanted? 40K was McCrystals low ball estimate of what he want

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Sam I don't have to prove anything. Its been hashed out before and demonstrated quite conclusively that the Shrubbery actively interfered with scientific reports - to the point where climate scientists were ordered to have their conclusions vetted by the Whitehouse before submitting it for confere

Re: Chris Matthews calls West Point the "enemy camp" for Obama

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
That was Clinton. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Remember who cut benefits, pay and sent the soldiers into combat with > very inadequate equipment? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with somet

Re: Chris Matthews calls West Point the "enemy camp" for Obama

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
That's what I do not understand, given how much the Bush administration and the repubican party has thoroughly f*cked the military, why are they such strong supporters? If anything they ought to be deserting the Republicans in droves. Remember who cut benefits, pay and sent the soldiers into comb

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
You're using a poll about hearsay to prove your claim about science? On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Now that you mention it, a recent Pew Charitable Trust poll found that > over 70% of scientists surveyed had either heard of active > interference by the Bush administr

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
+100 on Little Big Planet. Even cooler is that its just been released for the PSP. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Jim Davis wrote: >> LittleBigPlanet is AMAZINGLY GOOD. > ... > > > Thanks Jim, I think I just going to quote this email and your other one > on the magazine

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
D'oh, pardon the confabulation. That's what I get for not playing the game for a couple of months. Its Blazing Angels. http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sim/worldwariisquadron/index.html http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sim/blazingangels2/index.html BTW a meteor can turn inside a ME-262's radius. That can

Re: Chris Matthews calls West Point the "enemy camp" for Obama

2009-12-02 Thread Bruce Sorge
Neither. They don't like Obama. Simple as that. denstar wrote: > > Times changing, or fond memories? I don't know. > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion

Re: Chris Matthews calls West Point the "enemy camp" for Obama

2009-12-02 Thread Bruce Sorge
Interestingly enough though, the vast majority of soldiers (I am speaking for the Army ONLY) are conservative, republican or whatever you want to label us, including officers. I had the privilege of visiting West Point in October and got to talk to some senior officers as well as cadets, and b

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Now that you mention it, a recent Pew Charitable Trust poll found that over 70% of scientists surveyed had either heard of active interference by the Bush administration. To quote (http://people-press.org/report/?pageid=1549) "An overwhelming majority of scientists say they have heard a lot (55%)

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
At least Clinton had a smile on his face at some point. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Perhaps that is all it was, but what it has become the red herring > with which the opponents can derail the entire dialogue on climate > change.  Someone obviously did not think this throu

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Argument by authority. Not worth much at all. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> >> I find it interesting how much those emails have been cherry picked >> and quote mined by the climate change deniers. It would be mo

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
funny I've always done it the other way, fit the curve to the data. In other words the data ought to drive your theories. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I have no doubt that the data was presented to best make the argument. >  I just don't think they are the only ones doing

Re: Richard Lindzen on Climate Science and Global Warming

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Problem is he's arguing from authority rather than the quality of the data. In other words, he thinks that because this guy's a "scientist" and cool then he must be right. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:37 PM, denstar wrote: > > Isn't he the guy who thinks  the "second hand smoke" link to cancer is

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Judah McAuley
I have a great, deep, abiding love of music. I'm a decent vocalist. I had some issues that prevented me from being a real musician. I hope to avoid that with her and she shows every indication of grabbing on to music early on in a way that I didn't but a way her elders did. So yes, she'll be bette

Re: i think this explains a lot

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
What's going on Dana? Is this your new visual kill file? On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Dana wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > >> >> What are you going on about? Are you replying to me and what I said? >> Because >> I think you got the wrong person. >> >> I

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
All those years of claiming Bush was controlling science and now you have proof it was the other side and yet you excuse it. Shame shame. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Perhaps that is all it was, but what it has become the red herring > with which the opponents can derail

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
Skip the site and download the zip. It's been confirmed they are the real thing. Are you ready now to admit that because the authors did. Now onto the content... what do you think of these scientists now? On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Who owns that website, what are their

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
Wow, you've jumped the shark. Mann and Jones confirmed that the emails are theirs. You don't feel that is proof enough they authored them and then claim I'm lacking critical thinking? Really? On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Yeah.. another example of the lack of grey..

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
I gave you data On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Maureen wrote: > > So, just newspaper articles.  Still no data. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing

Re: i think this explains a lot

2009-12-02 Thread Dana
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > What are you going on about? Are you replying to me and what I said? > Because > I think you got the wrong person. > > I could give a crap less that he is in the news. Wasn't even my point. > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Sam wrote:

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Maureen
I was three when Dad put me on stage to sing for the first time. I was nine when he handed me his bass guitar and told me to play it. I was too young to understand that I wasn't supposed to know how to play, so I played. 48 years later, still playing. It's great that you're teaching her. She'

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread denstar
Happy Birthday, Ellie! What a freaking awesome age, neh? Mine'll be tres later on this month. Loves to sing, dance, and drum on/with stuff (she's always had good rhythm). It's been a while since I've dusted off any console, I wonder what she'll be into... I don't have any Winnie the Pooh game

Re: Chris Matthews calls West Point the "enemy camp" for Obama

2009-12-02 Thread denstar
Heh. I think the library at West Point is where we got some of our oldest genealogical info-- a battle with Knights and whatnot, way back in the day. Couple cousins warring over a title, IIRC. I didn't watch the footage, but a few relatives went to West Point, and that sounds unlike what they t

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Judah McAuley
Word. I feel the pull, but Ellie has real instruments and will learn from real musicians. She is 3 years old today and rocks the kazoo, drums, egg shakers and playing rhythm guitar while I work on chord fingerings. She'll be a far better musician than I, but it will be from real music, not video

Re: Chris Matthews calls West Point the "enemy camp" for Obama

2009-12-02 Thread Maureen
I don't know their political persuasion, but based on the audience shots, they weren't the most respectful bunch I've seen. Sleeping,texting and whispering while the President is speaking might be acceptable for some college students but I expected more from West Point cadets. That's just me thou

Re: Chris Matthews calls West Point the "enemy camp" for Obama

2009-12-02 Thread sor...@gmail.com
Isn't he their boss? Technically no, he is not because they are not commissioned in the Army yet. They are cadets, not soldiers. Once they graduate and receive their commissions, then he is their boss. ~| Want to reach the C

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread denstar
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Jim Davis wrote: ... > I'm "kiwidust" on PSN - feel free to friend/ping me when you get up and > running! I was wondering where you'd been, Jim. :) -- The book salesman should be honored because he brings to our attention, as a rule, the very books we need most

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Michael Grant
That is very true, and a pretty appropriate analogy. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Perhaps that is all it was, but what it has become the red herring > with which the opponents can derail the entire dialogue on climate > change. Someone obviously did not think this through

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Ian Skinner
Jim Davis wrote: > LittleBigPlanet is AMAZINGLY GOOD. ... Thanks Jim, I think I just going to quote this email and your other one on the magazine to all family who are coordinating on this gift. The wife and I, my step-mother and Santa are sharing credit on the console itself. Then other e

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread denstar
Yeah, one of my problems with the "skeptics" is that it's *very* hard to find objective ones. The exchanges between Plimer and Monbiot are sorta enlightening. -- Success depends upon previous preparation, and without such preparation there is sure to be failure. Confucius On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 a

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Maureen
Rock Band and Guitar Hero are the devil's spawn. Maureen Charter Member: Real Musicians Against Fake Musicians (grin) On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Vivec wrote: > > uhh..How do you feel about the Music games like Rock Band etc.? ~~~

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Maureen
Perhaps that is all it was, but what it has become the red herring with which the opponents can derail the entire dialogue on climate change. Someone obviously did not think this through before taking action, so it has become the climate research equivalent of Clinton's blow job. On Wed, Dec 2,

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Ian Skinner
Vivec wrote: > uhh..How do you feel about the Music games like Rock Band etc.? Not against them in general and I *know* the younger one would love them. But the big ones like Rock Band with their large, specialized controllers are a bit beyond budget for this holiday and probably would not fi

RE: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:39 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Console Game Suggestions. > > > Wow... > That's a comprehensive list... > > umm.. > > *squeaks* > > Bejeweled 2? That's a good one - but I alw

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
Bejeweled is the most played game on my xbox 360 (both number of people who play it and hours played.) We love _all_ the music games. and have most of them (missing DJ Hero). For a variety of platforms. My nephew is having a hard time finding places for all the instruments. (2 drum kits - rock ba

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Michael Grant
To me this all just seems like tweaking a few facts to make an underlying truth have greater impact upon the skeptics. It's exageration not fabrication. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let the

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Vivec
Wow... That's a comprehensive list... umm.. *squeaks* Bejeweled 2? (0_0) uhh..How do you feel about the Music games like Rock Band etc.? 2009/12/2 Jim Davis : ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they wa

Re: Richard Lindzen on Climate Science and Global Warming

2009-12-02 Thread denstar
Isn't he the guy who thinks the "second hand smoke" link to cancer is bunk? How do you feel about "second hand smoke", Rob? -- Study the past, if you would divine the future. Confucius On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > An excellent read by a respected scientist at MIT on

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Maureen
My nephews in that age group love the We Ski stuff. Also, lots of reviews here: http://www.gamepro.com/ps3/ On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > The boys (10 and 12) have a nice PS3 wrapped up in bright red paper > driving them to distraction waiting for a tree to be put unde

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Maureen
Who owns that website, what are their credentials and why should we believe anything "they" say? On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:20 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > >> >> Hmm no headers, nothing to prove that they actually came from East >> Anglia.. fishy >> > > "The authenticity of these email

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Maureen
I have no doubt that the data was presented to best make the argument. I just don't think they are the only ones doing it. Universally in this debate, researchers on both sides tend to draw the curve, then plot the points. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > that said all

RE: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Scott Stewart
Yeah.. another example of the lack of grey.. (read critical thinking) in your world.. Like I said to Hatton, if these emails empirically proved that Global Warming existed the three of you (you, Rob and Hatton) would be all over them like white on rice trying to dismiss or disprove them any way y

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Maureen
If you (or he) can't provide the DATA behind his "fact", then it is just his opinion. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Robert Munn wrote: >> > He stated a fact, which is that global temperate data has been flat for the > last dozen years or so. ~~~

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Maureen
So, just newspaper articles. Still no data. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > Witness the first paragraph of Richard 's (MIT Prof) WSJ editorial: > > "Is there a reason to be alarmed by the prospect of global warming? Consider > that the measurement used, the globally avera

Re: i think this explains a lot

2009-12-02 Thread Maureen
Tiger has been in the spotlight since he was a child. He never had a chance to find out if he was monogamous or not. Micro-managed by his parents and handlers for all of his adult life. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Time and again, I see the same lesson: If you aren't

RE: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:07 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Console Game Suggestions. > > > Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Any of the lego games? > > > > Oh, Lego... They really enjoyed Lego Star Wars and Sta

RE: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:38 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Console Game Suggestions. > > > The boys (10 and 12) have a nice PS3 wrapped up in bright red paper > driving them to distraction waiting for a tre

Re: i think this explains a lot

2009-12-02 Thread Judah McAuley
Time and again, I see the same lesson: If you aren't the monogamous type, don't try and be monogamous. Of course, maybe they aren't monogamous, I haven't seen anything that says they are. Maybe his wife was fine with the arrangement. Maybe not. I'm not monogamous and I don't cheat. Not that hard

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
The people that wrote the emails claimed they were real. Nothing more we can do for you. You are now a denier. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > I find the whole episode rather suspicious, what we have is heresay > Based on supposed hacked emails with no other way to auth

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I find it interesting how much those emails have been cherry picked > and quote mined by the climate change deniers. It would be most > interesting to see what the original emails said, not the carefully > edited exerpts used by the wing n

RE: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Scott Stewart
I find the whole episode rather suspicious, what we have is heresay Based on supposed hacked emails with no other way to authenticate them other than then some at the institution saying "they're real". Coming from an institution who up until now, I've never heard of... -Original Message-

Re: Chris Matthews calls West Point the "enemy camp" for Obama

2009-12-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
Because, historically, the students at any military academy have skewed Conservative, and therefore Republican. And for the last 20 years or so, campuses across the board have skewed that way. It's not an idiotic prejudice. And it was actually one of the realities I learned when I went there fo

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Ian Skinner
Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Look at Battle Aces. Do you have any links for this title? I'm not getting anything relevant from my search attempts. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Its still an opinion piece. What scientific journal was that fact taken from. Was it presented at a conference or was it in something like the PLOS? Otherwise its still blather. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> >>

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > Oh, Lego... They really enjoyed Lego Star Wars and Star Wars II on the > old Game Cube... Are they availble on PS3...?  If to a search engine. My cousin, who's a couple years younger than your boys, really enjoys the Indiana Jones Lego game.

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I wouldn't comment until I know more about the process in those particular journals. That said given how much of those stolen emails have been quote mined for the juicy bits taken out of context, I still trust the peer review process far more than what the climate change deniers would have in plac

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I find it interesting how much those emails have been cherry picked and quote mined by the climate change deniers. It would be most interesting to see what the original emails said, not the carefully edited exerpts used by the wing nuts. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:37 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Ian Skinner
Jerry Johnson wrote: > Any of the lego games? > Oh, Lego... They really enjoyed Lego Star Wars and Star Wars II on the old Game Cube... Are they availble on PS3...? If to a search engine. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion com

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > A WSJ opinion piece is not data either, its more blather. > > He stated a fact, which is that global temperate data has been flat for the last dozen years or so. ~| Wan

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
Larry, I'm dying to hear your thoughts on the peer review process taking place with this group of highly respected scientists. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > A WSJ opinion piece is not data either, its more blather. > ~~~

Re: i think this explains a lot

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
Sorry, my bad. As you were. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > What are you going on about? Are you replying to me and what I said? Because > I think you got the wrong person. > > I could give a crap less that he is in the news. Wasn't even my point. > ~~

Re: Chris Matthews calls West Point the "enemy camp" for Obama

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Why make the assumption that the cadets are not Democrats or Liberals. Why this idiotic prejudice that those who serve HAVE to be Conservatives or Republicans. if anything the officer class should be strongly against the neo-cons and republicans given how much the military have been abused by the

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Vivec
I would NOT NOT NOT NOT have my kids play Call of Duty..ESPECIALLY the new one.. that's just my opinion..but i would NOT. NOT NOT NOT! :-) 2009/12/2 Ian Skinner : > > Ian Skinner wrote: >> So I am hoping to find titles rated Teen or milder. > > Appoligies Mr. Vivec, your suggestions do fall in

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> > If you want to shape the evidence to your particular version of the "truth" > be my guest. As I said, I'm not debating them - I think I've made comments to the tone the professors use now when referring to what they claim are misinterpretations of the content. ~

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
I totally agree about Assassin's Creed I. But I have heard that II has overcome all of this (including the rote-follow-the-plot quests) I will try to remain hopeful. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Vivec wrote: > > I didn't like the first one very much actually. > But then I don't do well at t

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Look at Battle Aces. Its a WW2 fighter simulator. You can go through the entire war from hurricanes vs. Heinkels through to Me-262 vs Gloster Meteor jet fighters. Its fairly cheap too. larry On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > While Mister Vivec and Johnson go off on a Mature

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think Halo Wars was T, rather than the M all the other Halos were. But that was XBox. Any of the lego games? Prince of Persia? Ghost Recon? Maybe Mirror's Edge? Ohh. How about the Shawn White snowboarding game? On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Ian Skinner wrote: > > S

Re: climate raw data destroyed

2009-12-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
A WSJ opinion piece is not data either, its more blather. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Maureen wrote: > >> >> The planet being really hot and really cold in the past is not the >> statement for which I asked for data.  The statement y

Re: i think this explains a lot

2009-12-02 Thread Erika L. Rich
What are you going on about? Are you replying to me and what I said? Because I think you got the wrong person. I could give a crap less that he is in the news. Wasn't even my point. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Sam wrote: > > So don't be upset when someone that's always in the news is in th

RE: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Scott Stewart
The fact that they were released by a hacker brings their authenticity into question. When someone get's the email admins to trace the headers and authenticate them, then the discussion over the contents can begin. But if these emails had proven that Global Warming is an empirical fact wouldn't y

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Ian Skinner
Ian Skinner wrote: > So I am hoping to find titles rated Teen or milder. Appoligies Mr. Vivec, your suggestions do fall into the rating restriction. I'm somewhat surprised based on what I have heard of Call Of Duty or am I mixing up my shoot-em up titles? ~~~

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Vivec
:-| oh. well...let me get back to you... 2009/12/2 Ian Skinner : > > While Mister Vivec and Johnson go off on a Mature title side thread, I > would like to reiterate the ages of the boys receiving the game system > and that I take the ratings fairly seriously.  So I am hoping to find > titles r

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Ian Skinner
While Mister Vivec and Johnson go off on a Mature title side thread, I would like to reiterate the ages of the boys receiving the game system and that I take the ratings fairly seriously. So I am hoping to find titles rated Teen or milder. ~~~

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Vivec
I didn't like the first one very much actually. But then I don't do well at these Reflex and Timing games. Assassins Creed is basically a souped up Platformer. Jumpy jumpy jump...run run run...fight...run..climb jump ..jm...ACK MiSSED! Now the guards are on you...so you need to time your swo

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> > IMO, the authenticity of the "emails" should be empirically verified before > the debate even begins; otherwise they're invalid as evidence of anything > else other than someone went to a great deal of trouble to produce a lot of > text files. > > These wouldn't hold up in a court of law, why

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
I am totally looking forward to playing Assassin's Creed II. Anyone seen it yet? Can it hold up to the hype? On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Vivec wrote: > > YESH!! Game conversation ! There's Call of Duty , the latest one! And > Infamous was really good and > ummm. > > *read read read*

Re: i think this explains a lot

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
So don't be upset when someone that's always in the news is in the news :) On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > No. We aint crying for him ... it's the weird ass obsession with Won wanting > to know every little detail because he might lose money. > > Well. that's my angle an

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Vivec
YESH!! Game conversation ! There's Call of Duty , the latest one! And Infamous was really good and ummm. *read read read* Puzzle and thinking games you say WEll...there'summ...I know of... uhh.. ... lemme get back to you... ~~~

Re: Chris Matthews calls West Point the "enemy camp" for Obama

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
Don't be knocking GG's #2 journalist :) On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Chris? No. > > But he does wear tragic blinders that only let him see everything in terms > of politics. > ~| Want to reach the Co

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Sam
Most have already been verified by the school and the senders. Due to the sheer number of emails not all could be confirmed. If you have a specific message you want confirmed I'm sure they'll ablige. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Hatton, > > IMO, the authenticity of t

Re: i think this explains a lot

2009-12-02 Thread Vivec
Not saying that what he did was right in the least. ... but I don't know why wealthy people don't use proper escorts instead of screwing Strippers, Hookers, and hotel workers. How many individual escorts have come forward and admitted that someone had an affair? NONE. Again I'm not saying that wh

Re: climategate emails

2009-12-02 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Scott Stew wrote: > > So you're taking the "I seen it on the innerwebs so it must be true" > stance. > How long have you been in the internet development business, again? > > no, i am taking the stance that if the authors of the emails say the materials are legiti

Re: Console Game Suggestions.

2009-12-02 Thread Ian Skinner
Jerry Johnson wrote: > 40 bucks and an eBay account. used ps and ps2 games are out there for > pennies. new games are great, but those old ones are holding up well. > (playing Tomb Raider II now, myself) Unfortunately the latest models of PS3, as I understand it, no longer are backwards compatib

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