Aparently there will be new stuff in RC that is not in earlier releases.
Dang Adobe! Too many secrets!
This is 1 of Adobe's problems if ya ask me, they need to be more informative
and not keep everything a secret, when your manager comes up to you and says
we might move from coldfusion to X, as
you think microsoft is going to acquire adobe?
it's not about licensing, why can't they say to people we are working on
ajax integration, this is what we are doing, this is how long we think it
will take till launch, we are also working on this and bringing this to our
customers, so stay with us
Microsoft would never buy Macromedia or Adobe,
maybe 10 years ago but today it would be pointless.
they have to many competition products where MS has the far Superior tools
photo shop is about all they'd use
and maybe scrap flash so it doesn't make people less reliant on MS.
sure they wouldn't
Dot net.
a good c# dev in visual studio can produce a site just as quick as a cf dev.
look at the power of Dot Net, you can create some narly server beast in the
same language as ya web app,
with cf you'll need to write it in 2 languages, java and CF.
PDF, anyone can make a pdf reader.
as for
actually, I do get it (I think) - sneek up on the competition from
behind. See my point below about Microsoft.
I'm sure microsoft would sign up to beta lists if they were worried.
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Just briefly what clients do people use for oracle?
Toad or???
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1. Energy/matter cannot be created nor destroyed through natural
methods.
So what you listen to science on some theorys but not other theories with
more evidence?
2. The Universe cannot create itself. If it created itself, then
anything can create itself; and the Universe can have a Mind of its
12 years CF experience but no intention of moving to Sydney. Ever. And I
mean that.
why bother?
On 5/14/07, Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
12 years CF experience but no intention of moving to Sydney. Ever. And I
mean that.
On 14/05/07, Jo Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Hi Ray,
if ya ever bored we have a watercooler think the google group is
cfwatercooler. I think we should take food discussions to that list.
as for beer, I prefer tooheys extra dry when in Australia, personally
Australian beer is probably the worst beer in the world (that I've had) due
to the
http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,21667339%5E15306,00.html
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Nice! Thanks for information sharing.
Hope that Do Not Email Register (domain www.donotemail.gov.au is already
booked, but not active yet) will come alive soon too ;-)
They have the internet on computers now?
On 5/2/07, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Your email address : _
[ ] Email me before this registration expires.
we all onlist have email addresses but (being a _mandatory_ field) can
this be
Maybe what you were planning on doing would have been best done in html
anyway.
what were you building was flex the right job?
we use some flex/apollo at work, but more as a win application replacement
then a web application replacement.
the department that uses the app simply sits there all day
show them paths in and out of Microsoft products,
illustrate the pro's and con's
Sweet give me a pro of using flex over WPF
thanks
Matt
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So when is a good time to start working with the new tools? The only way
to fully
learn a language is to get dirty
In your own time or to send the developers to training, or to have a
consultant/experienced dev with that technology to come in and train/help
out with the first project or 2.
or
I'd either put it in your application scope or cache ya query.
if it's going to be available for every user all the time then application
shouldn't be a problem
if the site's busy and ya setting it to request each page request for each
user then it would be using a lot of memory although the
So basically, when would you need to be using the request scope?
you never need to use much of anything, it's when might you use the request
scope I personally will load querys and stuff into it, that is going to be
accessed for just the page request and be accessed by any files throughout
the
The THIS scope is also accessible by the calling page.
the var (whats the name of this scope/thingo?) is accessible by only the
current cfc
cfset var crud = chuck some crud on it
On 4/23/07, AJ Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
as I understand it, the VARIABLES scope is only available to the
I wonder what spin they'll put on it this time.
the most significant release of ColdFusion yet has been what they have
used for the last 4 versions lol.
Or maybe they'll do a microsoft sell and say the whole code base has been
rewritten from scratch
I remember when microsoft said that about one
No offense and it sounds anti-Adobe but Certifications aren't that exciting
these days, Macromedia ones were kind of worthwhile but bit fragmented
nowdays (sorry).
I'd disagree strongly.
every job I've gotten since my certification, my certification has been
brought up by the employer.
they
can't be buggered Live.com`n it
hahahahha
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at work we use TortoiseSVN, we used to use VSS and I've also used CVS
before.
TortoiseSVN is the best that I've used. VSS is far to limited but not to bad
a tool.
at home I use USB backup lol
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Putting your chairs together + blankets doesn't count as a fort Peter... ;)
GOLD!!!
I used to do that when I was kid... ahh the good old ideas, 2006 was great!
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Hi Mack,
CFjobs is doing well, it has moved how ever.
its cfjobs on google groups, link would be something like
http://groups.google.com/group/cfjobs
M@
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Note: forgot to mark this OT - apologies. Is cfjobs still active?
Nothing posted there
Hi Peter,
I remember occasionally seeing CF roles in Canberra several years back, is
there no longer places in Canberra using CF?
Also how many would there have been at its peak?
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All the good projects are gone or moving to .Net it seems. I know foolish.
What can I do?
Learn c# will take you about a month max if you have a good grasp of CF and
one other programming language that is.
There is no need to brown nose one software company, they'll get more of you
doing it then
Odd's are someone microsoft employee would ask what features are in the
next cf?
answer: nothing we aren't allowed to talk about it
thats the major issue I have with adobe, they should let us know months in
advance what features there products will have, then we can make plans
months in
Hi Claude,
This isn't syntactically best practice but if I understand your question do.
Select fieldnames (Select sum(cost) as total_cost
from transactions_table
where transaction_month like 'December') AS total_cost
from transactions_table
where transaction_month like 'December'
this way every
Have you considered asking to
stay on the loungeroom floor of a sydney-sider -
ya could always check out www.couchsurfing.com
its great and free, also ya meet great people I used it for my recent trip
accross Ireland.
after couch surfing I can honestly say I'd never back pack using hostels
again.
Move it to the watercooler.
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Come on Robin your getting a bit OT here, possibly even WOT
LOL!!!
personally I'd love a second list for Aussie cf devs but no CF discussion
allowed. just for the random old ramblings whether it be about winblows
vista or whats better snow or beach (answer is beach).
if anyone gets bored enough
(Fiscal Year ending 2006)
HeadCount World Wide: 71,172
Net Revenue: $44.28B (USD)
Growth: 11%
Net Income: $12.06B (USD)
Growth: 3%
Market Share (Source: OneStat.com)
Windows: 97.46%
Apple OSX: 01.43%
Linux: 00.26%
In my carpark at work we have roughly 100 cars, of these there is roughly
does the old encrypted page feature still exist?
Also put in your contract that your the only one allowed to customize it
etc.
M@
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Any suggestions on where best I can get up to speed on all this
www.Coldfusion.com
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bar tabs have no feelings, and you know if I was in oz, I'd be abusing you
Mr Bar Tab
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the Most RAM J2ee will use is 2gb
turn up the ram a bit but never max it out, leave it at least 1/3 below your
max ram.
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It's an Image problem we faced from the old days when we were about
maximum market share.
I think the share holders would like them to be about maximum market share
and no doubt that's always MS's goal.
only reason they don't have maximum market share in every field is because
they are in to many
Only person who so far has said they are going is a microsoft employee :P
On 1/25/07, Seona Bellamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't live in Brisbane, so it's probably not really my place to comment,
but I will anyway. ;)
Is that a tacit admission that no web programmer is going to have
Adobe do sales pitches for there other products at CF user groups
If it was simply titled how to move from CF to Dot net it would be a bit
whacked
even though thats probably there secret agenda lol
if it's how to use there new technologies with CF I think it would (could)
be a good thing for CF
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Adobe do sales pitches for there other products at CF user groups
although it (MS/ no MS) really doesn't have much to do with Adobe,
it's really Geoff Bowers' call and it could come down to just simple
logistics (i.e too hard)
Adobe would have to have atleast some say, they are the head sponsor, there
cash would have some say.
Lucky sod. hope it rains. non
It's kind of Ironic, last time when it was announced MS were a Big sponsor I
thought it was going to be a MS fest.
But now I just see it as a good way of seeing more of the industry.
either way WebDu will still be good, and if anyone is going for the first
time and hasn't planned to go to the
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gavcooney/tags/webdu/
good time last year, I hope someone posts some shaky face photo's this year
On 1/7/07, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's actually not to bad all said and done in terms of price vs value. I
think this question comes up every year and
Every January, when I go to the beach for a holiday, I take the
opportunity to review one or more of my common methods
Thats not a holiday get down to the water :-)
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Actually when I sat the 6.1 exam the exam centre went to give me the print
out so I didn't have to wait 4 to 6 weeks for evidence.
then the exam centre told me there printer had just broken LOL!
so 6 weeks later the certificate arrives in the mail from macro media, the
text of my name is on a 45
they used to update the list on the 28th of each month
guess these days are slack
the dev gets a print out from the exam
and they should get the proper cert in the mail within 6 weeks max
historically
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http://vodafone.co.uk
has just relaunched there shops in cf 7.02 and fusebox5.0
and they aint a small company,
market value on last check was around $130 Billion USD
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On 12/14/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well, they've obviously got a business reason to use ColdFusion
Yup they swear by its speed of development.
the aussie shop is also CF
I guess they have some smart people.
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We always add a password to it as well
eg. reset=1password=crap
so a user don't sit there continually restarting ya app which could become
server intensive.
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ISdefined is whacked
cfset session.session.session.crap = 1
structkeyexists(session, crap)
returns false
isdefined(session.crap)
returns true
also isdefined is slower.
now some people say speed difference is never enough to worry about
but try saying that to a site that's running a cluster of
On 12/8/06, Adam Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Presume you mean:
isdefined(session.crap) (note: quotes)?
lol most peoples brains won't throw errors to pseudo code.
isdefined(session.crap) will return true
isdefined(crap) should be true
structKeyExists(session, crap)
should be false
G'day Mat
I hate to be a fly in the ointment, but you're quite wrong with most of
what you say about isDefined() in your preceding post.
G'day Adam,
Get out of my ointment LOL
after some googleing I found the following.
there was a open source coldfusion server project back in 98, it was a scottish group (I think)then it became closed sourced has new owners and is now called blue dragon
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if you gave them non cf related titles then they would be easier for people to find on the full as a goog :-POn 10/25/06, Dale Fraser
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I've just blogged four new posts about CF8
Apollo from Max, well worth a read.
http://dale.fraser.id.au/blog/
Good tips Shane. Mark Drew is coming into my work next week, so if anyone has any questions that ya would like to know how he answered when asked in person (put on the spot) let us know and I'll askM@who's currently listening to a teach yourself Icelandic cd on his ipod :S.
While on eclipse etc, I'll say thisthere is no such thing as being elite solely because of the editor you use,eclipse is great and so is dreamweaver, I run across some devs who think if you use eclipse that means your super uber duber great and if you use dw your backwards and have no idea how to
I always sound weedy (or too Aussie) when recording voice but that is likely my audio setup.that's correct Peter it would be your audio, when I spoke to you briefly at webdu I thought you sounded identical to Sean Connery :)
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Given that a number companies are now giving away, for free, theirpropriety products for limited use, when is Adobe going to jump on the
bandwagon with JRun and Coldfusion? Well, actually I currently know ofonly one application server that's now free: the IBM WebSphereApplication Server Community
On 9/12/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
M@, are you referring to interactive step debugging? Or
something else? I'd just not heard of any plans for Adobe to do step debugging,
so just curious what you may have heard.
Hi Charlie good to hear from a fellow long time BD user, he
On 9/12/06, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I meet Ben once.. he wasa 6ft tall, arms like tree trunks andhair as red as fire, he bespoken with harmony in his voice he-be,and when he stared at you, it felt as if the devil be watchin ya, it did.
He affectionately referred to me as weird
Hi Dale,Do you have a website online ? (or cf on ya machine)Simply write your own cf page that reads the goog xml files and strip out what ya think is cf related, that way ya can have ya own ranking system and simply visit your page instead of the goog,
I have a basic script I run on my laptop to
I've said it before and will say it againif your company gets to the top 200 companies on the ASX microsoft will be so far up your ass that you'll think you've got a second tonguethere whole marketing strategyis to get as many of the top 200 companies as possible, then they'll advertise in the
Ben Forta is coming to my work next tuesday for a visit, maybe they need more ben forta's (As he can only be in on place at one time) and have them continually going around the companies.M@
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Rails won't be the last framework for ruby, just like any language it'll eventually get flooded with crap and poor code. I couldn't imagine many companies scrapping a technology for ruby just yet, sure some will but its a bit to pioneering, sure its an old language but its more the frame work your
The only thing I would like (and this makes sense) is for a basicversion of the CF server to be open sourcedthere was once a open source CF server project, started back in about 97 by some scottish lads I think,
its now called Blue Dragon and is developed by New Atlanta and is no longer open
On 8/31/06, Joel Cass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it just seems to me like aneasy way to make a CF server unavailable (if used unwisely).CFloop will do that, so will a lot of other tags
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if they are whinging about the cost of multiple licenses why not challenge with the cost of multi-skilled developers. no
doubt its best to have developers with multiple skills but in a global
skills shortage (of all languages) is it good to have people very
experienced *commercially* with cf
I've been taking nine students through the fast track CF courseHi Robin, Out of curiosity whats the background of most the devs, are they experienced in another language and moving to cf or totally new to programming ?
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Hi Seona just as a friendly tipinstead ofcflocation url="">#session.srcdoc#.i'd docflocation url="">can save a lot of time having a myself in fuesebox over using self
M@On 8/23/06, Seona Bellamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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OMG I'm totally disgusted with the goog and will be asking for my money back!oh wait its free...
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--If it were up to me they would be hand picked and
would need to meet one of the following two criteria.
The
had a Coldfusion specific category where the Coldfusion stuff was postedThe
entire blog had a Coldfusion focus, where 75% or more was
I say scrap cfscript entirely and send it to the ends of the earth, then throw it off the edge of the earth.
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It shouldn't On 8/10/06, Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Um your email address bounces for some reason :)On 10/08/06, M@ Bourke
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Is
this open to UK residents? (i'm welsh, nearly australian, Loads
On 8/9/06, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, must be able to read long emails ;) hehehWell looks like you have the goods, don't you hear cf calling?thanks to those who applied I'll keep you updated, anyone else interested be sure to let us know
M@
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Is
this open to UK residents? (i'm welsh, nearly australian, Loads of sheep and
miles away from england)
Should be no problem with being Welsh, Welsh may find the visa process (if welsh even need a visa) quicker.
Hi All, I'm posting on here as it's more of a check for interest before an official cfjobs posting.Sorry if you find it off topic. Anyway, our IT manager has asked me to hunt down some more Aussies and to post on our mailing lists.
So does anyone want to move to the UK and work with me?if so
Just couple other reasons to move out from CF to
ASP.NET (as few clients told):Your saying we should move from cf to
asp.net ?CF hosting is expensiveIf cf hosting is to expensive for an employer what makes you think they are going to be able to afford your wage?
if a few hundred $'s every year is
Its nearly 600 meg. Not sure if CF would hand;e this well.woh, would be very slow in cf, If I'm correct cf will load the whole file into memory then chip away. would be best to use something like perl or a dot net language etc.
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maybe they had a falling out with Microsoft?once your in the top 200 companies on the ASX Microsoft comes chasing you with the biggest sales pitches imaginableas that way they can hire independent companies to do research that finds xx% of the top 200 companies use microsoft technology,
and use
11 years ago I chose CFML over ASP for the most productive language.does that mean ASP is older then CFML ?
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I know someone here once was unsubscribing and the
While you guys were all feeling hard-core working with these v1 products i was in year 10 :PLOL!!when Coldfusion first came out I was actually in year 7 in high school lol. Year 7 class of 95 what a year that was.
I was using the Vermeer FrontPage (argh) version B4 Microsoft acquired them.yeah
Didn't ASP come out in December 1996??On 7/2/06, Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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That was when I heard about Cold Fusion 1.0.Haven't looked back since!
11 years sure is a long time, How long had colfusion been out before you first used it and how did you hear about it?M@On 6/29/06,
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Soccer?whats that..Forgotten already. Actually I watched the brazil v australia game from munichand the australia v croatia game from an aussie bar in amsterdam awesome atmospherethen back to work today.
I think I got off the soccer train at the right time lol M@On 6/26/06, Chris Dawes [EMAIL
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at work all 30devs use eclipse (we have a choice), I prefer DWbut use eclipse to keep consistency across the teamsPersonally I think DW 8 is more productive for meand way better by default at css, also dw has a lot of good extensions, I personally find ya can customise it better with all the
can be creative and use an iframe or something
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Hi all, I'm wanting to know how I set cfeclipse so all the code is expanded by default, I have an older version of eclipse on my latop and it seems to have all code expanded by default but the latest version of eclipse that I have at work all the comments and methods and crap are unexpanded (not
w00h00Thanks for that Mr dogRegardsM@who can now get back to happy coding
Hi M@,it's called code folding i think. It's in the cfeclipse options underpreferences.regardsmizdog!
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http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/5/16/Looking-For-30-ColdFusion-Developers-In-Charlotte-and-Atlanta
A company is putting on 30 CF developersexpect the job to developer ratio to widen even more lolM@
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I only use cfscript to improve the speed of thingsHow so?you mean writing it??as cfml hasn't been any slower then cfscript since mx came out. back in the olden days cfscript was faster but these days its all compiled to the same old byte code
M@
That way you could picklanguages like you pick underwear (hopefully one for each day of theweek).Now now Mark, don't you know ya can wear underwear 4 times before washing, frontwards, backwards, inside-out frontwards, inside-out backwards.
M@Who can't quite remember what song/thing that comes
The last time there was the whole cfscript debate we found the majority more often used the tags then scripting corfields breeze thingo had a poll that showed this.hence the M in the CFMSome people want CFM to be so much like other languages that they could simply use those other languages,
I had a brief dab/look over the sample appsstill am yet to run accross a flash app that I think is better then an html app to be honest.back in 2001 I thought flash was gunna be the be all and end all of everything but from my perspectice (someone who doesn't follow flash) it hasn't done anything
I agree with your points, can you elaborate on what your workplace does toachieve these three points.
1. Make the workplace attractive,Training, free lunch every day, free gym, games room etc.
2. Eliminate obstacles, andDefine obstacles? 3. Provide benefits which are more valuable than the
I hate to say it but my little team hear, may have to jump to .NET soonbut I don't want to make that decesion. But if the clients want it wedo it.Hi Jeremyvery funny cfdump joke now if pricing is simply the only reason for changeing why not php or 1 of the many other free languages over .net?
you
Where are all the good CF developers these days?Well it all started back in Nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say dickety because the
Kaiser had stolen the wold twenty. I chased that rascal to get it
back, but gave up after dickety-six miles. what happened was everyone seemed to think computers were
Hi RyanJust read your job ad and have some *friendly* advice, if you want more applications I'd strongly think over the following in the adSeniorSomeone might be brilliant but not consider them self experienced enough to be senior
minimum of 4 to 5 years experience in professional new media
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