I don't know if anyone can really give you a truth in that, other than
someone who has collected a truely impartial survey. Even a CCIE, like
myself, cannot tell you the average, because all I know, is maybe what I
have been able to make, and colleagues of mine.
I offer my opinion however.
I am more interesting in MIDWESTOHIO...CHICAGO..NY..ETC
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
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Which part of the world?
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Hi All:
Just wondering...
What's the average salary for
it...
Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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It's all relative. Some folks here have been cashing out and moving to
Sac
cause it's cheaper. Can't say that I
was
making
in texas.
Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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I've heard so many stories about that. I wondering where that leaves the
rest
can work and
make
the same if not better income...and that the salary base is 2X what I was
making
in texas.
Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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working for a living and paying high rent/mortgage payments if you
want to work in San Jose Tech market...if your like me and only got here
in the last 2 yearsThe only
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The new direction of this thread may bring new significance to have
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Hey, we pay about
Which part of the world?
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Hi All:
Just wondering...
What's the average salary for CCIE in this market ?
thank you very much...
I am finishing my CCNP, and very interest in CCIE cert.
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Housing is cheaper, so are the salaries...
Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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Housing is cheaper, so are the salaries...
Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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The new
I've heard so many stories about that. I wondering where that leaves the
rest of us?
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I agree
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It's all relative. Some folks here have been cashing out and moving to
Sac
cause it's cheaper. Can't say that I blame them.
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Sorry Brian, we New Yorkers got you beat... A studio in a decent part of
Manhattan either sells for $1,000,000 or rents for at least $2500/month.
That is the lower end of the spectrum. Around the Battery Park City area
(one block
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The new direction of this thread may bring new significance to have
a cow, man.
Hey, we pay about the same price for milk in the Raleigh area. Housing
is
much cheaper, though. :-)
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To: Brian
Let me clarify... I do not wish to unsubscribe, although there are times...
it's just that this is the second or third email I recieved from this
individual over the past several weeks. Maybe it's a hotmail bug???!!!
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Zorro" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:38:49 -0500
The thing is, nothing other than the CCIE cert matters...
CCNA = difficult to find a job
CCNP = around
of? Thanks!
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Howard,
Things like abstract algebra (especially graph theory), principles of
real-time operating systems, queueing
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Gayathri wrote:
Thanks for all the varying thoughts,
It is good to hear first hand information from like minded people than to
visit some recruiters/head hunters web sites and make wild guess.
It looks like CCIE is the ultimate. These middle level certificates only
Brian wrote:
This really isn't true. Lets look at some basic facts:
There are only ~6000 or so CCIE's in the world, possibly as many as 30%
are employed by cisco.
There are over 6000 ISP's in the US alone.
There are over 7000 AS's in the world.
My point is, that if most of your
The CCIE program does little to develop the skill set of a pure IP engineer in a ISP
environment. CCIE has little bearing in my opinion when candidate are interviewed for
senior IP architectural positions. CCIE is really an enterprise discipline.
Pete
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The CCIE program does little to develop the skill set of a pure IP
engineer in a ISP environment. CCIE has little b
, and flying to North Carolina to play in
Sprint's
AVVID lab .. oh yea, I'm going to some Cisco IP Telephony/Call Center
training too. :-)
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Mark, Pete:
I need to say something here. I live about 3 miles from Cisco's Federal
Marketing offices, in Herndon, VA, and I know a couple of engineers.
One of those
me Cisco IP Telephony/Call Center
training too. :-)
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The CCIE program does little to develop the skill set of a
.
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In my opinion, CCIE is a test of ability of learning and using knowledge,
not a test of knowledge itself.
No matter a CCIE or not, you can
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In my opinion, CCIE is a test of ability of learning and using knowledge,
not a test of knowledge itself.
No matter a CCIE or not, you can be an expert in Wireless or Optical or
other arena, because you have been working on those stuff for a while and
you
to some Cisco IP Telephony/Call Center
training too. :-)
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The CCIE program does little to develop the skill set of a p
Enterprise refers to the customer base that the products/services are marketed to.
Enterprise is generally broken into segments by size, and refers to the networks
operated by the companies that utilize them themselves for the purpose of facilitating
business processes.
There's probably a
How about CCNP's??
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The DC market rate for CCIE's is around $125. This varies with how long
you
have been a CCIE and what else you know...
Z
From: Stephane Wantou Siantou [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Gayathri wrote:
How much can a CCNP with SUN certification expect with 6 yrs experience in
varying fields ?
It depends. It depends on where you are, it depends on who hires you, it
depends on what you do for them. Links to salary calculators have already
been posted.
are your ticket to an interview...
This is the DC, Baltimore, Northern Virginia market mindset, but I expect
that things are similar elsewhere.
Z
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A better question would be "what is the mean or medium rate for persons of such and
such experience with such and such designations working in a primarily technical role
in a specific area" You have to be that specific for answers to have any value
whatsoever.
I would recommend that people
A. Baldwin - Network Administrator
A+ / Network + / I-Net+ / MCP
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The thing
2001 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE salary
The thing is, nothing other than the CCIE cert matters...
CCNA = difficult to find a job
CCNP = around $65k annually
SUN certs = around $65k annually
MCSE = around $55k annually
CNE5 = around $45k annually
Notes certs = around $60k annually
Here's t
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Subject: Re: CCIE salary
The thing is, nothing other than the CCIE cert matters...
CCNA = difficult to find a job
CCNP = around $65k annually
SUN certs = around $65k annually
MCSE = around $55k annually
CNE5 = around $45k annually
Notes certs = around $60k annually
Here's the catch: CCNP, plus SUN
rea, which are primarily
as you describe - "body shops".
Z
From: "W. Alan Robertson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:51:01 -0500
This sounds light to me...
Are you
Thanks for all the varying thoughts,
It is good to hear first hand information from like minded people than to
visit some recruiters/head hunters web sites and make wild guess.
It looks like CCIE is the ultimate. These middle level certificates only
land you in a sys admin job..
"Mask Of
.
From: "Mask Of Zorro" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Mask Of Zorro" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE salary
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:38:49 -0500
The thing is, nothing other than the CCIE cert matters...
CCNA = difficult to find a jo
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Gayathri wrote:
Thanks for all the varying thoughts,
It is good to hear first hand information from like minded people than to
visit some recruiters/head hunters web sites and make wild guess.
It looks like CCIE is the ultimate. These middle level certificates only
That's a pretty broad stroke you're painting. The CCIE
is great, but the other certs can get you very good
paying jobs. Especially if you have good experience
with it. I made very good money as a CCNP, alot more
than what was quoted to you - $65K. And I live in city
that has very low cost of
The DC market rate for CCIE's is around $125. This varies with how long you
have been a CCIE and what else you know...
Z
From: Stephane Wantou Siantou [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Stephane Wantou Siantou [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE salary
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001
How much can a CCNP with SUN certification expect with 6 yrs experience in
varying fields ?
"Mask Of Zorro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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The DC market rate for CCIE's is around $125. This varies with how long
you
have been a CCIE and what
Quoted from article: "For example, Cisco frowns on
competing solutions providers raiding each other in
search of CCIEs. Should one company lure another's
CCIE, Cisco will not recognize that engineer's
certification for a year, meaning the company that
scored the new employee cannot count on him
Yonker Bonk,
Cisco knows that they have left because the reseller notifies Cisco as to
the amount of Cisco Certified individuals they have on staff, because the
reseller discount from Ciscois determined by the number of Cisco Certified
SEs.
So when a CCIE leaves Company A for Company B, Company
It's easy to figure out that someone has left the
company, but how do they determine the reason someone
left? If I got my CCIE and after 6 months I decide my
company is not making use of me, and then I go to
another Cisco partner... that does not mean the new
company lured me away. I left for my
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