Re: NSCalendar and NSDates prior to October 15, 1582

2015-02-05 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On 2015 Jan 30, at 12:32, Steve Mykytyn wrote: The documentation for the Date and Time Programming Guide for iOS does not seem to be telling the truth, or perhaps I'm doing something wrong. From https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/Cocoa/

Re: Blurry is the New Sharp

2015-01-08 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On 2015 Jan 05, at 18:38, Graham Cox wrote: People suggested that OS X had jumped the shark with Lion. If so, we're into Jaws VIII vs. Godzilla 3D territory now. They foisted intentionally blurry text on us by 2002, but don't single out the Apple execs and management. It has infected all

Re: Saving NSAttributedString to a File

2015-01-07 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On 2014 Dec 19, at 17:00, Jens Alfke wrote: On Dec 19, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Charles Jenkins cejw...@gmail.com wrote: But when it comes time to save to a file format selected from AppKit additions (e.g. RTFFromRange:documentAttributes:), any unusual, application-specific attributes will be lost.

Re: Disabling screen capture

2014-02-24 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On 2014 Feb 21, at 18:24, Scott Ribe wrote: On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Bradley O'Hearne br...@bighillsoftware.com wrote: Industries such as medical (HIPAA), legal, government, education, military defense, etc. all have such security needs. The only way I can see for the app under discussion

Re: Threaded drawing

2013-12-11 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On 2013 Dec 11, at 10:01, Jens Alfke wrote: On 2013 Dec 11, at 04:39, 2551 2551p...@gmail.com wrote: It’s certainly seemed the case to me that I would have probably spent less time just writing my own code from scratch than I spend trying to figure out how half the methods I’m trying to

Re: WebView blocks User Interface

2013-12-05 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On 2013 Dec 05, at 08:15, Gerriet M. Denkmann wrote: On 5 Dec 2013, at 19:55, Roland King r...@rols.org wrote: On 5 Dec, 2013, at 8:34 pm, Gerriet M. Denkmann gerr...@mdenkmann.de wrote: Don't send 2Mb of search results to your webview. Do you really need the case where you search for one

Re: C functions

2013-10-18 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On 2013 Oct 18,, at 04:48, Shane Stanley sstan...@myriad-com.com.au wrote: is there any way to build a call to a C function on the fly? I mean something like pass a string to a method, and have it call the function of that name? This at least used to be shown in the Objective-C 2.0 Runtime

Re: Core Data with ODBC databases?

2013-10-16 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On 2013 Oct 16, at 12:47, Flavio Donadio wrote: For sure, ODBC is not the answer here, nor direct client access to the database, as we need something to manage locking and concurrency, as you said -- unless the RDBMS can do that. Is there such a beast? The reason we look to CoreData as a Holy

Re: Confusion about NSWritingDirectionNatural

2013-09-26 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On 2013 Sep 26, at 21:02, dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com wrote: Good news is LTR languages tend to not have a lot of RTL interspersed. It's somewhat common for authors in certain fields to have to mix, e.g. German, Italian, Greek and Hebrew, or Hebrew, ProtoPhoenician, and Arabic in the

Re: Progress for archiving/dearchiving

2013-09-16 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On 2013 Sep 16, at 08:53, Graham Cox wrote: If I wanted to add some sort of progress reporting to archiving and dearchiving, what's a good way to do it? The problem seems to me to know what the 'count' of things read from/written to the file is to set the progress max value. Since the delegate

Re: 30x faster JSON date parsing

2013-09-09 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On 2013 Sep 09, at 13:14, Marcel Weiher wrote: On 2013 Sep 9, at 18:11 , Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com wrote: [...] [fg160,160,160;16:34:40.488| [fg0,128,0;[;NSDateFormatter took 26.97 µsec [fg160,160,160;16:34:48.649| [fg0,128,0;[;CBLParseDatetook 0.47 µsec (58x) Now, the

Re: Converting RTFD to Word with embedded images

2013-07-15 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On 2013 Jul 15, at 13:06, Kyle Sluder wrote: On Jul 15, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Buddy Kurz buddyk...@mac.com wrote: Pages can export to Word with the attachment. Why can't I? Pages probably doesn't use NSString's Word exporter. What happens if you use TextEdit? What is RTFD format? It's a

Re: Core Data Reverse Engineering KickStarter Project

2013-06-24 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On 2013 Jun 24, at 06:10, Michael Crawford wrote: Scott, How do you do it? Honestly I want to know. The best I've ever been able to come up with is that if someone always writes the same kind of code, say repeatedly writing eCommerce sites for different clients, then they can base an

Re: iOS books, etc for experienced OSX programmers

2013-02-27 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
From: James Lee j...@tropic4.com Subject: Re: iOS books, etc for experienced OSX programmers To: Koen van der Drift koenvanderdr...@gmail.com Cc: Cocoa Dev cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Saturday, 2013 February 23, 14:21 I am looking at Xcode 4 by Fritz Anderson now. I read everything I

Re: Sandboxing die.die.die

2012-08-31 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
From: davel...@mac.com davel...@mac.com To: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Thursday, 2012 August 30, 18:26 On 2012 Aug 30, at 18:09, z...@mac.com wrote: From: Jeffrey Oleander jgo...@yahoo.com Thu, 2012 Aug 30 13:57:44 To: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Subject: Re: Sandboxing die.die.die

Re: Sandboxing die.die.die

2012-08-30 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
Sandboxing die.die.die Code-Signing die.die.die Javascript die.die.die Kludgey CPUs die.die.die Bodyshopping die.die.die (throwing hammer at hare-brained power-mad forces of evil) Now, when can we cut the chains and get back to developing great apps?

Re: Sharing a file between Mac and iOS

2012-07-19 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
From: Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com Subject: Re: Sharing a file between Mac and iOS To: Dennis li...@dbandel.com Cc: Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Thursday, 2012 July 19, 13:32 On 2012 Jul 19, at 08:22, Dennis li...@dbandel.com wrote: But I am stumped as to how I might be able to more

Re: Question about hebrew in textfields and textviews

2012-04-15 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
Kyle Sluder k...@ksluder.com 2012-04-11 12:26 wrote: On 2012 Apr 11, at 10:17, Matthew Weinstein mwein...@kent.edu wrote: Thanks for all the replies. Unfortunately NSNaturalTextAlignment doesn't seem to affect the justification of the textfields. Try creating a simple project and simply put

Re: How to cancel a loading document in NSDocument's readFromURL:ofType:error method ?

2012-02-09 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
From: Gilles Celli gilles.ce...@ecgs.lu Subject: Re: How to cancel a loading document in NSDocument's readFromURL:ofType:error method ? To: Kyle Sluder kyle.slu...@gmail.com, Mike Abdullah cocoa...@mikeabdullah.net Cc: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Thursday, 2012 February 9, 14:23

Re: UITapGestureRecognizer and state/action w/rt numberOfTapsRequired

2011-11-08 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
From: Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca Subject: UITapGestureRecognizer and state/action w/rt numberOfTapsRequired To: Cocoa-Dev List cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Tuesday, 2011 November 8, 14:56 From

Re: Does anyone else dislike Xcode 4?

2011-07-24 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
Alex Kac a...@webis.net 2011-07-24 13:31 wrote: 2011-07-25 20:22, Jeffrey Oleander wrote: Alex Kac a...@webis.net 2011-07-24 13:07 wrote: ...its a one window interface... This is a deal killer.  Seeing things next to each other is vital.  It's the reason we had to chop down so many trees

Re: web-based Cocoa dev docs inaccessible

2010-09-13 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Mon, 2010/09/13, Andy Lee ag...@mac.com wrote: From: Andy Lee ag...@mac.com Subject: Re: web-based Cocoa dev docs inaccessible To: Jeffrey Oleander jgo...@yahoo.com Cc: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Monday, 2010 September 13, 2:01 On 2010 Sep 12, at 6:32 PM, Jeffrey Oleander wrote

over-released NSIdEnumerator

2010-09-13 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
After my main NSDocument algorithm method was done doing its thing and returned up the call chain to where the button click had started its action, it would flip to showing NSPopAutoreleasePool and I was crashing with EXC_BAD_ACCESS. So, I looked at all of my alloc, initWith..., retain, and

web-based Cocoa dev docs inaccessible

2010-09-12 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
Normally, I'd file an on-line criticism of the docs, but I can't get there, and this is the closest means I have to doing so. I was trying to look up something about NSAttributedStrings and found that the usual link led me to a page that no longer has a search box, links to docs, etc. My

Re: TUTORIAL: Generating Unique ID Strings

2010-05-17 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Fri, 2010/05/14, Thomas Wetmore t...@verizon.net wrote: From: Thomas Wetmore t...@verizon.net Subject: Re: TUTORIAL: Generating Unique ID Strings To: Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com Cc: CocoaDev cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Friday, 2010 May 14, 12:30 I must say that I am constantly

Re: How do I compare two NSDates using NSPredicate Core Data

2010-04-12 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
A date-time is a date-time, regardless of how it is displayed or entered or obtained from the system. The whole purpose of the NSDate object is to allow easy comparison, and determination of intervals by subtraction... well, a couple of the main purposes... and be able to display dates and

Re: NSXML Parsing Problem

2010-03-26 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Thu, 2010/03/25, Keary Suska cocoa-...@esoteritech.com wrote: Maybe a cool option for NSXML would be to be able to specify the pound ; sequence and have it map it to whatever... My XML is a little rusty but IIRC this is an XML issue, and any XML parser would choke. You have to

Re: Changing appearance of NSDatePicker?

2010-03-16 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Tue, 2010/03/16, Ben Golding b...@object-craft.com.au wrote: From: Ben Golding b...@object-craft.com.au Subject: Changing appearance of NSDatePicker? To: Cocoa-Dev List Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Tuesday, 2010 March 16, 2:10 AM Is it possible to change the way the dates are

Re: Better sorting using threads?

2010-03-14 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Fri, 2010/03/12, Andrew James andrew_a_ja...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Andrew James andrew_a_ja...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Better sorting using threads? To: Gwynne Raskind gwy...@darkrainfall.org, Ken Ferry kenfe...@gmail.com Cc: Cocoa-Dev List cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Friday, 2010

Re: predicate for a Core Data fetch request rejected by SQL

2010-03-07 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Sat, 2010/03/06, Joanna Carter cocoa...@carterconsulting.org.uk wrote: This quote from the Core Data Programming Guide: There are some interactions between fetching and the type of store. In the XML, binary, and in-memory stores, evaluation of the predicate and sort

Re: Messaging Cocoa apps through Terminal

2010-03-04 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Wed, 2010/03/03, Matt Neuburg m...@tidbits.com wrote: From: Matt Neuburg m...@tidbits.com Subject: Re: Messaging Cocoa apps through Terminal To: Ulai Beekam ulaibee...@hotmail.com Cc: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Wednesday, 2010 March 03, 13:02 On Wed, 2010 Mar 03 16:17:13 +,

Re: Core Data: Custom to-many relationship setter not being invoked

2010-02-23 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Tue, 2010/02/23, Ken Tabb k.j.t...@herts.ac.uk wrote: From: Ken Tabb k.j.t...@herts.ac.uk Subject: Re: Core Data: Custom to-many relationship setter not being invoked To: Quincey Morris quinceymor...@earthlink.net Cc: cocoa-dev cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Tuesday, 2010 February 23,

Re: NSDocument override Undo's default handling of changes count

2010-02-01 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Mon, 2010/02/01, Ernesto Giannotta e...@apimac.com wrote: From: Ernesto Giannotta e...@apimac.com Subject: NSDocument override Undo's default handling of changes count To: Cocoa List cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Monday, 2010 February 1, 04:27 I'm using NSDocument default undoManager

Re: Bindings Problem

2010-01-18 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Sun, 2010/01/17, Ken Thomases k...@codeweavers.com wrote: On 2010 Jan 17, at 11:15, Jeffrey Oleander wrote: On Sat, 2010/01/16, Ken Thomases k...@codeweavers.com wrote: On 2010 Jan 14, at 17:11, Carter R. Harrison wrote: My model is an NSMutableSet that contains NSMutableDictionaries

Re: Use NSDocument as a variable of another NSDocument

2010-01-18 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
At Mon, 2010/01/18 15:19, Quincey Morris quinceymor...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2010 Jan 18, at 10:48, Jarod Wen wrote: Is it a proper design to use a NSDocument as a variable of another NSDocument? I am now working on an application which generates some information from a movie. The

Re: Bindings Problem

2010-01-17 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Sat, 2010/01/16, Ken Thomases k...@codeweavers.com wrote: On 2010 Jan 14, at 17:11, Carter R. Harrison wrote: My model is an NSMutableSet that contains NSMutableDictionaries. I think this is asking for trouble.  A set of mutable dictionaries doesn't make much sense. ...Equal is

Re: passing a method name?

2009-12-20 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Sun, 2009/12/20, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote: From: Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com Subject: Re: passing a method name? To: Chunk 1978 chunk1...@gmail.com Cc: cocoa-dev Dev cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Sunday, 2009 December 20, 07:29 On 2009/12/21, at 00:18, Chunk 1978

Re: beginner question, NSNumber, NSDecimalAsNumber

2009-11-09 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Mon, 2009/11/09, Alastair Houghton alast...@alastairs-place.net wrote: From: Alastair Houghton alast...@alastairs-place.net Subject: Re: beginner question, NSNumber, NSDecimalAsNumber To: Thomas Wetmore t...@verizon.net Cc: list-cocoa-dev List cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Monday, 2009

Re: Should I learn CoreData for this project?

2009-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
1. Keep going back to the documentation. It takes time to grasp all the concepts. If something is not clear and complete, submit a comment on the documentation. Every documentation web page has a link to a comment form. ___ Cocoa-dev

Re: whether to use core data...

2009-10-04 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
Anyway, I ended up with a graph of Objects and methods which looks nice and consistent and -- clean!  :-) I'm happy with my model. And I'm certain it would benefit from Core Data. A1: A lot of beginners complain about this. A lot of intermediate to pros recognize that the documentation

Re: How to create GPS enabled Iphone application?

2009-08-26 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Wed, 2009/08/26, rethish reth...@newtok.com wrote: From: rethish reth...@newtok.com Subject: How to create GPS enabled Iphone application? To: Cocoa Dev Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Wednesday, 2009 August 26, 07:34 I need to create GPS enabled Iphone application which is to display

Re: How to create GPS enabled Iphone application?

2009-08-26 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Wed, 2009/08/26, Luke the Hiesterman luket...@apple.com wrote: From: Luke the Hiesterman luket...@apple.com Subject: Re: How to create GPS enabled Iphone application? To: Jeffrey Oleander jgo...@yahoo.com Cc: Cocoa Dev Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com, rethish reth...@newtok.com Date: Wednesday

Re: How to create GPS enabled Iphone application?

2009-08-26 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Wed, 2009/08/26, Luke the Hiesterman luket...@apple.com wrote: From: Luke the Hiesterman luket...@apple.com Subject: Re: How to create GPS enabled Iphone application? To: I. Savant idiotsavant2...@gmail.com Cc: Jeffrey Oleander jgo...@yahoo.com, Cocoa Dev Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date

Re: When do I need to override hash?

2009-08-21 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Fri, 2009/08/21, Quincey Morris quinceymor...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Quincey Morris quinceymor...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: When do I need to override hash? To: cocoa-dev cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Friday, 2009 August 21, 00:48 On 2009 Aug 20, at 22:05, Jeff Laing wrote:

Re: Printing Multiple-Pages Issue

2009-08-17 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Mon, 2009/08/17, Renzil D'Souza ren...@gmail.com wrote: From: Renzil D'Souza ren...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Printing Multiple-Pages Issue To: Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com Cc: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Monday, 2009 August 17, 12:39 AM No, I want control over how many pages I'm

Re: Document-Based Application

2009-07-27 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Mon, 2009/07/27, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote: From: Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com Subject: Re: Document-Based Application To: David Blanton aired...@tularosa.net Cc: cocoa-dev cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Monday, 2009 July 27, 00:10 On 2009/07/27, at 2:09 PM, Quincey

Re: Cocoa Graphics Parsing

2009-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
From: Courtney Arnold court...@rnolds.com Subject: Re: Cocoa Graphics Parsing To: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Monday, 2009 July 20, 21:25 I am expecting that I am going to have to drop down to lower levels. I want to be able to manually parse an image of a UPC barcode. I assume that

Re: UML Diagramming or Other Helpful Software

2009-06-24 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Wed, 2009/06/24, I. Savant idiotsavant2...@gmail.com wrote: From: I. Savant idiotsavant2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: UML Diagramming or Other Helpful Software To: Dennis Christopher dchristop...@pixion.com Cc: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Wednesday, 2009 June

Re: Coming up with ideas

2009-06-14 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Sat, 2009/06/13, Grant Erickson erick...@umn.edu wrote: From: Grant Erickson erick...@umn.edu Subject: Re: Coming up with ideas To: Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com Cc: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Saturday, 2009 June 13, 11:13 On 2009/06/12 23:34, Graham Cox wrote: On 2009/06/13,

Re: NSXMLParser - howto resolve entities defined in DTD

2009-06-01 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Mon, 2009/06/01, Keary Suska cocoa-...@esoteritech.com wrote: From: Keary Suska cocoa-...@esoteritech.com Subject: Re: NSXMLParser - howto resolve entities defined in DTD To: Cocoa-Dev (Apple) Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Monday, 2009 June 1, 10:16 On 2009 May 31, at 4:31 PM, Dominik

Re: what am I missing with NSString ?

2009-05-26 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Tue, 2009/05/26, Volker in Lists volker_li...@ecoobs.de wrote: From: Volker in Lists volker_li...@ecoobs.de Subject: Re: what am I missing with NSString ? To: vinai for_use...@yahoo.com Cc: Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Tuesday, 2009 May 26, 08:41 from the code listed I cannot tell if

Re: Databases on Cocoa (was Re: Invoice program made in Objective c/Cocoa)

2009-05-18 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
Yah, it's getting there. It's just not there yet. The data modeling still isn't quite up to ORM standards we had nearly 30 years ago. When we dink with PHP and Python which have handy APIs, it can get to be frustrating. Just provide input via the bugreporter and comments to the docs, and

Re: Calling delegates explicitly

2009-05-17 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Sat, 2009/05/16, Jason Stephenson ja...@sigio.com wrote: From: Jason Stephenson ja...@sigio.com Subject: Re: Calling delegates explicitly To: Cocoa Cocoa-Dev cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Saturday, 2009 May 16, 23:04 Eric E. Dolecki wrote: If I understand you, make a method which you

Re: File formats for multi-doc app: packages, single files or zipped alternatives

2009-05-17 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Sun, 2009/05/17, Keith Blount keithblo...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Keith Blount keithblo...@yahoo.com Subject: File formats for multi-doc app: packages, single files or zipped alternatives To: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Sunday, 2009 May 17, 12:20 I’m working on version 2 of my

Re: A tree data structure?

2009-05-05 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Tue, 2009/05/05, WT jrca...@gmail.com wrote: From: WT jrca...@gmail.com Subject: Re: A tree data structure? To: Cocoa-Dev List cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Date: Tuesday, 2009 May 5, 12:19 Please let's not forget that a tree data structure is often pretty much useless without some form of

Re: NSXMLParser and NSDocument

2009-04-30 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Tue, 2009/04/28, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote: On 2009/04/29, at 08:34, Jeffrey Oleander wrote: I've been having 2 intermittent compilation errors on 10.3.9 in - (BOOL)loadDataRepresentation:(NSData*)data ofType:(NSString*)fileType {     BOOL success;     NSString

Re: NSDateFormatter for ISO8601

2009-04-28 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
On Mon, 2009/04/27, Martijn van Exel mve...@gmail.com wrote: Unrelated: one of the XML attributes that needed parsing was a ISO8601 style date string, for which neither NSDate nor NSDateFormatter curiously does not seem to provide a parser. ? Of course, it will parse ISO dates. You just

NSXMLParser and NSDocument

2009-04-28 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
I've been having 2 intermittent compilation errors on 10.3.9 in - (BOOL)loadDataRepresentation:(NSData*)data ofType:(NSString*)fileType { BOOL success; NSString * lowercaseFileType = [fileType lowercaseString]; NSLog(@fileType=%S, lowercaseFileType); if

Re: parsing a string into words

2009-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
At Sun, 2009-04-26, 09:01, Alastair Houghton alast...@alastairs-place.net wrote: At 2009 Apr 26, 04:33, Jeffrey Oleander wrote: NSArray * tokens = [string componentsSeparatedByCharactersInSet: whitespaceCharacterSet]; No, no, no.  If you read Gerriet's original post, you would have

Re: parsing a string into words

2009-04-25 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
NSArray * tokens = [string componentsSeparatedByCharactersInSet: whitespaceCharacterSet]; ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at

OO idiom avoiding switch and if

2009-04-09 Thread Jeffrey Oleander
There's a programming idiom to avoid using complex if statements and switch/case statements, and instead to just send a message to a different class of object. I'm doing some parsing of an old text data format which has a hierarchy with a record and then sub-records and sub-sub records, 1 per