Thierry Vignaud wrote:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Does this mean that you guys won't touch it?? ;)
Could someone tell me how decisions are made over here?
Note that I'm just a cooker user/tester, but have been on the list
for a bit, so weigh my opinion with that perspective..
Yes, th
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> > > Does this mean that you guys won't touch it?? ;)
> > > Could someone tell me how decisions are made over here?
> >
> > Note that I'm just a cooker user/tester, but have been on the list
> > for a bit, so weigh my opinion with that perspective..
> >
> > Yes, that
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Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri 22 Aug 2003 03:30, Manoj Joseph posted as excerpted below:
> > > It doesn't make the requirements, it is not free enough (similarly to
> > > freedos, which can't be compiled with free software).
> >
> > I am new to 'cook
On Fri 22 Aug 2003 03:30, Manoj Joseph posted as excerpted below:
> Hi,
>
> > > but I think it belongs
> > > in Contribs.
> >
> > It doesn't make the requirements, it is not free enough (similarly to
> > freedos, which can't be compiled with free software).
>
> I am new to 'cooker'. I am not sure h
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Leon Brooks wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:54, Frederic Crozat wrote:
>
> That's a bit short, it's a useful migration tool.
IMHO, no, it's a cr
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:08, Manoj Joseph wrote:
> Are you suggesting that writing an ext2 d
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I'd be more than willing to test out a XP native version at the NT4 one
was unstable on XP sometimes causeing restarts
Manoj Joseph wrote:
>>That said, IMO it should only be include
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Frederic Crozat wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 19:18:25 +0530, Manoj Joseph wrote:
The software is an ext2 file system driver for Windows NT 4.0.
URL : http://winext2fsd.sourc
Szakacsits Szabolcs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 2) Maybe printing the reason, why non-destrcutive partitioning isn't
> possible could help in cases. Occasionally these are happening:
>
> - inconsistent NTFS -> user must run chkdsk (not from the gui
>but from the command line
On Thu 21 Aug 2003 03:30, Leon Brooks posted as excerpted below:
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 03:46, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 18:30, Levi Ramsey wrote:
> >> Am I the only one who's been waiting for someone to muddy those
> >> waters with a beer whose recipe is GPL'd? ;o)
> >
> > Be
On Thu 21 Aug 2003 04:51, Adam Williamson posted as excerpted below:
> On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 12:43, Buchan Milne wrote:
> > Leon Brooks wrote:
> > > That's a bit short, it's a useful migration tool.
> >
> > IMHO, no, it's a crutch supporting your use of Windows.
>
> Shortsighted. For a personal use
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> ntfs resize "implementation" (read: "interfacing with ntfsresize") on
> drakx side was quite a lot simpler than writing ntfsresize in the
> first place.
I remember, I was extremely impressed how fast it was integrated. It shows
Mandrake has an excell
On Thursday 21 August 2003 14:12, Duncan wrote:
> On Wed 20 Aug 2003 07:25, Buchan Milne posted as excerpted below:
> > Well, the first question I have is, can this software be compiled
> > from source using only free software available in Mandrake (main +
> > contrib)? If not, then it can't really
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>>Leon Brooks wrote:
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>>>On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:54, Frederic Crozat wrote:
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>>>That's a bit short, it's a useful migra
On Wed 20 Aug 2003 07:25, Buchan Milne posted as excerpted below:
> Well, the first question I have is, can this software be compiled from
> source using only free software available in Mandrake (main + contrib)?
> If not, then it can't really be included.
What about PLF? I know they handle quite
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> Leon Brooks wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:54, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> >
> > That's a bit short, it's a useful migration tool.
>
> IMHO, no, it's a crutch supporting your use of Windows. NTF
Szakacsits Szabolcs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So at present Linux NTFS develpment is pretty in "stalled",
> maintaince mode, for half, one year (e.g. I wrote the ntfs resizer
> over 1 year ago, it just recently started to be known, thanks to
> Mandrake).
well, we really thank you for having w
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:08, Manoj Joseph wrote:
> Are you suggesting that writing an ext2 driver for windows is
> the wrong approach and writing an ntfs driver is the right one?
> If that is what you say, I disagree.
> IMHO *both* are required. Support on both sides (Windows and
> Linux) for nati
On Wed 20 Aug 2003 23:05, Manoj Joseph posted as excerpted below:
> But transferring files is not the only use. A Windows user usually has
> Windows only application that continue to be used even after switching
> to dual-boot.
>
> Those applications don't get thrown out - at least for a while...
>
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Leon Brooks wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:54, Frederic Crozat wrote:
>
> That's a bit short, it's a useful migration tool.
IMHO, no, it's a crutch supporting your use of Windows. NTFS resizing is
a migration tool. NTFS read support is a migration to
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> Le Mercredi 20 Août 2003 15:54, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
>
>>We are doing a linux distribution.. You should ask Microsoft to ship this
>>driver, not us..
>
> I agree too.
> But I have another reason : such a software on the sa
he file to a fat32 partition and
> re-boot again.
>
> I have done this *many* times. I think there is a *practical* need - for
> some
> users.
>
> Regards,
> Manoj
>
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Hi Szaka,
> > > Wrong approach.
> > Why? I am not doing a ntfs file system driver for linux.
>
> AFAIR, you mentioned it helps Win -> Linux migration. If you
> migrate, then
> you want to solve issues in the new, native environment, not
> escaping and
I don't think I understand you.
Are you su
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 03:46, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 18:30, Levi Ramsey wrote:
>> Am I the only one who's been waiting for someone to muddy those
>> waters with a beer whose recipe is GPL'd? ;o)
> Besides, have any of you ever met anyone at *all* who's come across
> free beer?
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:54, Frederic Crozat wrote:
>> The software is an ext2 file system driver for Windows NT 4.0.
> We are doing a linux distribution.. You should ask Microsoft to ship
> this driver, not us..
That's a bit short, it's a useful migration tool. You ship loadlin, why
not this? At
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Manoj Joseph wrote:
> > Wrong approach.
> Why? I am not doing a ntfs file system driver for linux.
AFAIR, you mentioned it helps Win -> Linux migration. If you migrate, then
you want to solve issues in the new, native environment, not escaping and
working around. Fix the cau
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
> I agree too.
> But I have another reason : such a software on the same computer is a
> fantastic SECURITY HOLE !
then do not install it? having another OS on your machine and unencrypted
filesystems is _already_ an security hole. This driver has noth
Michael Lothian
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Hi
I've already used this tool in XP (using the compatibility wizard) of
course it didn't work to wellbut that's microsoft&
MORE appreciated there, by
> millions of users.
:)
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On Wed
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Hey Manoj:
I have always taken care of this by creating a separate fat32 partition for
file sha
lution.
Right now, it does not prevent any user from accessing any file.
But that can be changed. :)
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self. :)
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Frederic Croz
ly impossible to ship anything free
> on windows.
:)
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On 08/20/03 11:12:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I will probably never use this, but I think it _is_ a valuable
[Cooker] Software submission for the Mandrake distribution
> 2. Microsoft's DDK which is _free_.
Free as in free beer or free speech ?
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Olivier Blin
Pierre Jarillon wrote:
I agree too.
But I have another reason : such a software on the same computer is a
fantastic SECURITY HOLE !
It allows to write on protected files. I remember such a software for
windows95 which allows to acces to ext2. Please don't spread this
software ... and use reise
Le Mercredi 20 Août 2003 15:54, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 19:18:25 +0530, Manoj Joseph wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a piece of software that I would like to submit for
> > consideration for inclusion in the Mandrake distribution.
> > I wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was directe
On Wed Aug 20 17:45 -0400, Austin wrote:
> On 08/20/03 11:12:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >I will probably never use this, but I think it _is_ a valuable addition to
> >the distro. Even if nobody uses it is looks like in a press release.
> >In this case, being a little less extremistic could be a
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 19:18:25 +0530, Manoj Joseph wrote:
> > The software is an ext2 file system driver for Windows NT 4.0.
> > URL : http://winext2fsd.sourceforge.net
>
> We are doing a linux distribution.. You should ask Microsoft to ship this
> driv
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 3:46 pm, Adam Williamson honored me with this
communique:
> On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 18:30, Levi Ramsey wrote:
> > On Wed Aug 20 18:20 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > > anyway, it's understandable: free beer means free of charge,
> > > there's no freedom background
Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 18:26, Austin wrote:
>
> > Exactly why we (English speakers) should start using something like Software
> > Libre and Software Gratis. Others will follow. Everyone copies Mandrake
> > anyway. :-)
> >
>
> What's wrong with Open
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Manoj Joseph wrote:
> On August 20, 2003 7:56 PM, Buchan Milne wrote:
>
> It needs
> 1. a Windows compiler (compiler that can compile code for windows)
Well, if you have produced a binary using mingw on Windows, then it is
of interest. If you used Bor
On 08/20/03 12:56:57, Dave Cotton wrote:
What's wrong with Open Source and Freeware?
They are possibly the two most misleading terms in software today.
Open souce does not mean free, and freeware does not mean free. Both usually
mean gratis, but not all open source software is gratis by definitio
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magic wrote:
> Buchan Milne wrote:
>
>> - -Windows client for hylafax?
>>
>
> This isn't required. Being a little creative, I put together a slick
> (and simple) way to do this.
Sure, but your's doens't make it any easier (in terms of distributing i
On 08/20/03 11:12:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I will probably never use this, but I think it _is_ a valuable addition to
the distro. Even if nobody uses it is looks like in a press release.
In this case, being a little less extremistic could be a good thing.
You are right... idealism doesn't sell
On 08/20/03 15:46:23, Adam Williamson wrote:
Besides, have any of you ever met anyone at *all* who's come across free
beer? :D
Exactly what I was just about to say.
Where the hell is this magical land of free beer?
Oh well, I'm happy enough to have electricity again. ;-)
Austin
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Buchan Milne wrote:
This isn't required. Being a little creative, I put together a slick
(and simple) way to do this.
Sure, but your's doens't make it any easier (in terms of distributing it).
Not sure what you mean, unless you are refering to the licensing (see
next comment).
I am u
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Manoj Joseph wrote:
>
> Lots of linux users are not aware that such a driver *can*
> exist. I didn't until a month before I started working on this
> project. ;)
Wrong approach. The root of the problem is the Linux NTFS write support
isn't finished. Why? Lack of the NTFS info
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> Ainsi parlait Manoj Joseph :
> > On August 20, 2003 7:56 PM, Buchan Milne wrote:
> > > But, it is not the prime aim of Mandrake Linux to provide missing
> > > features in a proprietary operating system.
> > >
> > :)
> > :
> > > Well, the first questio
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 17:56, Dave Cotton wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 18:26, Austin wrote:
>
> > Exactly why we (English speakers) should start using something like Software
> > Libre and Software Gratis. Others will follow. Everyone copies Mandrake
> > anyway. :-)
> >
>
> What's wrong wi
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 18:30, Levi Ramsey wrote:
> On Wed Aug 20 18:20 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > anyway, it's understandable: free beer means free of charge,
> > there's no freedom background in getting free beer.
>
> Am I the only one who's been waiting for someone to muddy those wate
On Wed Aug 20 18:20 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> anyway, it's understandable: free beer means free of charge,
> there's no freedom background in getting free beer.
Am I the only one who's been waiting for someone to muddy those waters
with a beer whose recipe is GPL'd? ;o)
--
Levi Ramsey
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 18:26, Austin wrote:
> Exactly why we (English speakers) should start using something like Software
> Libre and Software Gratis. Others will follow. Everyone copies Mandrake
> anyway. :-)
>
What's wrong with Open Source and Freeware?
The Eskimos, so I'm told, have 16
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 16:54, Olivier Blin wrote:
> > 2. Microsoft's DDK which is _free_.
>
> Free as in free beer or free speech ?
i never understood the difference between the two, it should be free as
youpaynothing.
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Hey Manoj:
I have always taken care of this by creating a separate fat32 partition for
file sharing across the two systems. I then can move the relevant "My Docs"
(et al) to this "d:" partition easily enough. As long as we are talking about
a non-journaling filesystem, I can't see much of a *pr
On 08/20/03 12:20:13, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
anyway, it's understandable: free beer means free of charge,
there's no freedom background in getting free beer. free speech
means freedom, well because that's one of the best short
definition for freedom.
Exactly why we (English speakers) should st
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 09:54, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> > The software is an ext2 file system driver for Windows NT 4.0.
> > URL : http://winext2fsd.sourceforge.net
> We are doing a linux distribution.. You should ask Microsoft to ship this
> driver, not us..
While this driver is outside the s
Michael Scherer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 16:54, Olivier Blin wrote:
> > > 2. Microsoft's DDK which is _free_.
> >
> > Free as in free beer or free speech ?
>
> i never understood the difference between the two, it should be free as
> youpaynothing.
or.. ?
anywa
Hi
I've already used this tool in XP (using the compatibility wizard) of
course it didn't work to wellbut that's microsoft's compatibility wizard
for you.
I personally think it would be a great idea to include it on the
mandrake cd as it makes life easier for people using duel boot. And
perso
Buchan Milne wrote:
- -Windows client for hylafax?
This isn't required. Being a little creative, I put together a slick
(and simple) way to do this.
I am using WHFC (Windows HylaFAX client). This accepts postscript
input, and talks directly to the HylaFAX server. Using the Generic
(Windo
> 2. Microsoft's DDK which is _free_.
Free as in free beer or free speech ?
--
Olivier Blin
Ainsi parlait Manoj Joseph :
> On August 20, 2003 7:56 PM, Buchan Milne wrote:
> > But, it is not the prime aim of Mandrake Linux to provide missing
> > features in a proprietary operating system.
> >
> :)
> :
> > Well, the first question I have is, can this software be compiled from
> > source usi
On August 20, 2003 7:56 PM, Buchan Milne wrote:
> But, it is not the prime aim of Mandrake Linux to provide missing
> features in a proprietary operating system.
:)
> Well, the first question I have is, can this software be compiled from
> source using only free software available in Mandrake (m
On August 20, 2003 7:24 PM +0530, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> We are doing a linux distribution.. You should ask Microsoft to ship this
> driver, not us..
Hi Frederic,
Microsoft does not have a reason for assisting people in using
a dual-boot system. Why should they?? :)
Lots of linux users are n
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> Hi,
>
> I have a piece of software that I would like to submit for
> consideration for inclusion in the Mandrake distribution.
> I wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was directed to make a
> presentation in this forum.
>
> The software
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 19:18:25 +0530, Manoj Joseph wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a piece of software that I would like to submit for
> consideration for inclusion in the Mandrake distribution.
> I wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was directed to make a
> presentation in this forum.
>
> The software is an
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