Re: [css-d] Follow up/heads-up on url(.css) screen hack

2007-01-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Thierry Koblentz wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Guess I shouldn't say this, but, FWIW: It is good to have options and know how they work an/or how to make them work. However, I don't see much point in switching hacking-strategy if one has a working and well-tested method in place. For

[css-d] Need help with fixed width floats

2007-01-26 Thread Christine Masters
Hi everyone! I could use a little help with a layout I'm working on. It is my first tableless CSS site, so I'm possibly missing some obvious things. Thanks in advance for any advice! Anyway, I've gotten it to work well in Firefox, but I'm having some trouble working with IE. Here is my

Re: [css-d] Need help with fixed width floats

2007-01-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christine Masters wrote: Anyway, I've gotten it to work well in Firefox, but I'm having some trouble working with IE. http://cmasters.townnews.com/entertainment/ The line-up will be improved in IE6 when the 'margin-doubling on floats' bug is killed. The addition of...

Re: [css-d] Ahhh! Why can't I find you? Degrading Popup (CSS only?)

2007-01-26 Thread Chris Ovenden
IE doesn't get thrown into quirks mode just becuase it finds some tag soup in the body. The switch is in the !DOCTYPE (or lack of it) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quirks_mode#Triggering_different_rendering_modes Chris On 1/26/07, james shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd imagine Andy meant

Re: [css-d] Follow up/heads-up on url(.css) screen hack

2007-01-26 Thread Barney Carroll
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: The IE-bug that makes the '@import hack' work, also prevents proper use of attributes on a standardized property. This means it put limitations on future use of same property, and will continue to do so for as long as our support for those same buggers is a necessary part

Re: [css-d] Follow up/heads-up on url(.css) screen hack

2007-01-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Barney Carroll wrote: The syntax for @import is pretty unique for CSS, to be fair to IE (we're always so patronising). Well, @import has been around for a while... It has also been used as a filter to block out old browsers, for years - without the media-attribute. I google searched the

[css-d] IE6 Problem: an overflow:auto; width:100% inside a 100% table gets Bugy

2007-01-26 Thread Shlomi Asaf
Hi here r two pages: me without tableC:%5CDocuments%20and%20Settings%5CSol%5CDesktop%5Cflashoo%5CmeWithoutTable.html me inside a tableC:%5CDocuments%20and%20Settings%5CSol%5CDesktop%5Cflashoo%5CmePoorTable.html as u can see, the PRE element is OverFlow:Auto inside a 95% width table displays

[css-d] Site Check please

2007-01-26 Thread Taryn Regish
Hi everyone- Can I please get a site check on http://ifpsm.ism.ws/ Especially on a mac and IE 7. Thanks. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information --

Re: [css-d] Site Check please

2007-01-26 Thread George Ornbo
Hi everyone- Can I please get a site check on http://ifpsm.ism.ws/ Especially on a mac and IE 7. Thanks. No problems in Safari, Camino and FF on Mac. Cheers George www.shapeshed.com | Web and Graphic Design __

Re: [css-d] Follow up/heads-up on url(.css) screen hack

2007-01-26 Thread Chris Ovenden
Some may disagree, but I feel * html is completely safe and future-proof. We know precisely which browsers it hits, and their behaviour is frozen forevermore. On 1/26/07, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's no such thing as a 'safe bug/hack', only some that are a bit safer than

Re: [css-d] Site Check please

2007-01-26 Thread Chris Ovenden
Seems fine in IE7 On 1/26/07, Taryn Regish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone- Can I please get a site check on http://ifpsm.ism.ws/ Especially on a mac and IE 7. -- Chris Ovenden http://thepeer.blogspot.com Imagine all the people / Sharing all the world

[css-d] Browser alignment differences

2007-01-26 Thread Daniel Hammond
Here's the URL: www.objectivedesigns.com/2 Everything is correct in FF and Opera, but IE shifts the container/header one pixel to the left. You can see it if you look closely and compare the edges in relation to the background gradients. Also, I want the black left and right borders of the

Re: [css-d] Site Check please--taryn regish

2007-01-26 Thread ~davidLaakso
Taryn Regish wrote: Can I please get a site check on http://ifpsm.ism.ws/ Especially on a mac and IE 7. re: xp Performed well for me in ie/7.0 through ie/5.01. FWIW, there are vertical gaps between the menu items in ie/5.01, but the menu and pages are perfectly usable. There is an interesting

Re: [css-d] ul not stretching to accomodate inline lia element heights

2007-01-26 Thread Ed Seehouse
On 1/26/07, martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, If you look at the top menu bar as well as the subcategories below the page's h1, you'll see how the vertical padding on the a elements (as well as li.current) I was using to try to make the navigation bars a bit thicker doesn't

Re: [css-d] IE6 Problem: an overflow:auto; width:100% inside a 100% table gets Bugy

2007-01-26 Thread Shlomi Asaf
for some reasons the links havent been pasted corectly: me inside a table http://www.webcssdesign.34sp.com/me/flashoo/mePoorTable.html me without table http://www.webcssdesign.34sp.com/me/flashoo/meWithoutTable.html thanks for whom who will help Neo On 1/26/07, Shlomi Asaf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] Browser alignment differences

2007-01-26 Thread Matt Dawson
I'm not sure if this will actually fix your problem, but I think you intended to place your text-align: center declaration on the body, not on the container. (That is, I think you intend to use this to correctly center your layout for IE 5. If that's the case, put it on the body element instead.)

Re: [css-d] Site Check please

2007-01-26 Thread Arthur Maloney
Hello Taryn, Friday, January 26, 2007, 1:33:55 PM, you wrote: Hi everyone- Can I please get a site check on http://ifpsm.ism.ws/ Especially on a mac and IE 7. using: Laptop 1680x1050 132% normal Size (127 dpi)Windows XP SP2 IE7 Note I'm using a laptop contrast light Grey/white for reading

Re: [css-d] Browser alignment differences

2007-01-26 Thread Daniel Hammond
| ...place your text-align: center | declaration on the body, not on the container. (That is, I | think you intend to use this to correctly center your layout | for IE 5. If that's the case, put it on the body element | instead.) That *might* fix your problem. | | ...shrink the image by two

Re: [css-d] Browser alignment differences

2007-01-26 Thread Matt Dawson
Sadly, none of that did anything to fix the problem. Any ideas on making the container extend down to 100% of the vertical space? Well, for starters, you might want to think about changing your use of that background image. If you make the container div wide enough to contain the image bg

[css-d] IE 6 7 css problems

2007-01-26 Thread John M Shepard
Hi there. I have a problem with a practice site I put up at: www.mypracticesite.com. There seems to be a problem in the css for the subpages rendering properly in IE 6 7 on a Windows based machine. Any help would be great. Thanks. John Shepard

Re: [css-d] Browser alignment differences

2007-01-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Daniel Hammond wrote: Any ideas on making the container extend down to 100% of the vertical space? Try adding... html, body {height: 100%;} #container {min-height: 100%;} * html #container {height: 100%;} ...and restyle the background to avoid visible overflow... html, body {background:

Re: [css-d] Ahhh! Why can't I find you? Degrading Popup (CSS only?)

2007-01-26 Thread Andy Harrison
I stand corrected; thanks for the reference. :-) Andy On 1/26/07, Chris Ovenden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IE doesn't get thrown into quirks mode just becuase it finds some tag soup in the body. The switch is in the !DOCTYPE (or lack of it)

Re: [css-d] UL and LI Borders question

2007-01-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Fred Janon wrote: I have a UL with some LIs. I want a 1px border around all the LIs with no 2px border between the LIs. I have been fiddling around with the UL and LIs borders but I can't find a simple solution to it. My best solution so far is to have no border on the UL and the top, left,

Re: [css-d] New With Problems

2007-01-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Marian, One thing to note about all your pages: they contain a number of validation errors, and cleaning these up first should be done before any of the other things I mention. It's the best start towards a well rendering page. Marian Rosenberg wrote:

Re: [css-d] CSS and 508 compliance

2007-01-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Jim wrote: Would anyone in the U.S. have any tips regarding Section 508 compliance, or any links to sites that may have CSS tips? Section 508 and CSS have very little to do with one another. The only Section 508 requirements with a CSS implication is the rule to not have information

[css-d] test

2007-01-26 Thread KJ'[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Testing __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org --

Re: [css-d] Floats and 100% height ...

2007-01-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Grady Kelly wrote: I am building a UI for a web application. I am using 100% heights for a lot of the outer elements, like this: wrapper - this has 100% height div1 - this has 100% height/div1 div2 - this has 100% height/div2 div3 - this has 100% height/div3 /wrapper this works all fine

Re: [css-d] ul not stretching to accomodate inline lia element heights

2007-01-26 Thread martin f krafft
A is an inline element and so of course rules designed for application to block elements won't work. Fortunately you can make them work with display: block; - for example li a {display: block;} If I do this, then the entire navigation bar will be horizontal all of a

Re: [css-d] Browser alignment differences

2007-01-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Daniel Hammond wrote: Sadly, none of that did anything to fix the problem. Any ideas on making the container extend down to 100% of the vertical space? Keep in mind that once you have content in the page this will probably become a non-issue. I wouldn't worry about it. Zoe -- Zoe M.

[css-d] Styling a code listing

2007-01-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
My apologies for cross-posting I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/how_to_style_a_code_listing.asp Thanks. --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com __

Re: [css-d] ul not stretching to accomodate inline lia element heights

2007-01-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
martin f krafft wrote: http://seamus.madduck.net/~madduck/abacons6/leistungen/1.html http://seamus.madduck.net/~madduck/abacons6/css/screen.css If you look at the top menu bar as well as the subcategories below the page's h1, you'll see how the vertical padding on the a elements (as well

Re: [css-d] Using CSS for inline formatting

2007-01-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Christina Hope wrote: Basically this is close...I probably should explain it a bit better. Basically I'm looking for the look of tables but without using tables. So I need everything that should be a column ex - fn, department, role, note etc. to left align in what would be the cell in the

[css-d] Inline CSS - affecting elements

2007-01-26 Thread Ryan Keefer
Hey all, I've got a template where I've got to use only inline CSS *sigh* with no style sheet reference in the head tag. Obviously, this has some limitations. Is there a way to affect all tags in a given area with inline CSS? Example. I basically want the effect of this: #header p {

Re: [css-d] ul not stretching to accomodate inline lia element heights

2007-01-26 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Zoe M. Gillenwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.01.26.1952 +]: Give the ul the same amount of top and bottom padding. That's how padding works on inline elements -- it pushes out content to the left and right, but not above and below. The linebox doesn't expand to hold that

Re: [css-d] IE 6 7 css problems

2007-01-26 Thread Jesse Skinner
John M Shepard wrote: I have a problem with a practice site I put up at: www.mypracticesite.com. There seems to be a problem in the css for the subpages rendering properly in IE 6 7 on a Windows based machine. I believe you have one too many /div tags immediately before the element div

[css-d] three issues: div to align bottom, firefox: text not placed correctly unless you refresh, and ie has the text run outside of div

2007-01-26 Thread Copeland
http://www.copelandcasati.com/test/steelisgreen/about.htm Three issues, any help is VALUABLE! 1. I want the sun to align to the bottom of that leftnav bar and can't achieve it 2. in Firefox the text has huge gaps in it next to photos UNTIL you hit refresh 3. In IE (I don't

Re: [css-d] Browser alignment differences

2007-01-26 Thread Daniel Hammond
| Try adding... | html, body {height: 100%;} | #container {min-height: 100%;} | * html #container {height: 100%;} | ...and restyle the background to avoid visible overflow... | html, body {background: #fff url(../images/bg.jpg) center repeat-y; } Perfect. That took care of both of my issues.

Re: [css-d] ul not stretching to accomodate inline lia element heights

2007-01-26 Thread Ed Seehouse
On 1/26/07, martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: li a {display: block;} If I do this, then the entire navigation bar will be horizontal all of a sudden: I don't see why. All that rule says is that every a element inside an li element should be displayed in block

[css-d] Image height ignored for div height in IE6

2007-01-26 Thread Aleve Sicofante
Hi, I'm experiencing a problem with IE6. I have a div that takes its size from its content, which is both text and one image. In Firefox and IE7 the height of the div is properly calculated, but in IE6 only text is taken into account. You can see the effect here:

[css-d] Horizontal navigation styling

2007-01-26 Thread Robyn M. Smith
I'm trying to find a way to have a two-color horizontal navigation area: for example, a yellow background on the left half and a blue background on the right half. I've tried using nested divs to divide a navbar area into two regions with their own styling. It works, but, of course, this falls

[css-d] IE 6 li rendering problem.

2007-01-26 Thread Scott Wolff
I am having a problem rendering a CSS styled unordered list in IE 6. I'm using the list as a navigation system, and I've also used a javascript library to make a flyout menu from the list. You can browse the site using the following site (you'll only see the problem if you're using IE 6):

Re: [css-d] Horizontal navigation styling

2007-01-26 Thread Schalk
Robyn, I guess you can go one of two ways: Create two unordered lists and float them next to each other calling the one red and the other yellow: ul id=red-nav li/li li/li /ul ul id=yellow-nav li/li li/li /ul #red-nav, #red-nav ul { position:relative; float:left; } #yellow-nav,

Re: [css-d] Need help with fixed width floats

2007-01-26 Thread Christine Masters
Christine Masters wrote: Anyway, I've gotten it to work well in Firefox, but I'm having some trouble working with IE. http://cmasters.townnews.com/entertainment/ The line-up will be improved in IE6 when the 'margin-doubling on floats' bug is killed. The addition of...

[css-d] IE 5.5 6.0 render problem. Stumped.

2007-01-26 Thread Jeroen
I've been editing a theme for my gallery software to my liking, and think I understand the CSS that it's using. However i have render problems in IE 5.5 and 6 which i just can't fix. I haven't got a clue what's causing it. The URL is: http://jg.intellit.nl/cm Problem is that IE adds about

Re: [css-d] Horizontal navigation styling

2007-01-26 Thread ~davidLaakso
Robyn M. Smith wrote: I'm trying to find a way to have a two-color horizontal navigation area: for example, a yellow background on the left half and a blue background on the right half. Robyn Smith Simple is difficult. Complicated is easy. And if you are even nicer to Opera, all /may/

Re: [css-d] Need help with fixed width floats

2007-01-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christine Masters wrote: http://cmasters.townnews.com/entertainment/ Is there any way to make my columns line up in IE quirks mode the same as they are lining up in Firefox? What is IE quirks mode calculating differently in the box model other than padding? Your layout is pixel-tight

Re: [css-d] Inline Pseudo-Classes/Elements

2007-01-26 Thread David Dorward
On 26/01/07, Jonathan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I found this on a W3C working draft (http://www.w3.org/TR/css-style-attr), but it doesn't seem to be supported by either Mozilla or IE. Any knowledge of this, Oh CSS gurus? It was an idea that was thrown about a few years ago.

Re: [css-d] Horizontal navigation styling

2007-01-26 Thread Robyn M. Smith
Thanks to all. Sorry if I'm looking for answers in the wrong place. I'm new to CSS and perhaps don't use all the proper terms. This is not a structural division. It's just a presentational issue. I don't have a url, I've been testing locally. But to try and explain what I mean: some sites have

Re: [css-d] Need help with fixed width floats

2007-01-26 Thread Christine Masters
http://cmasters.townnews.com/entertainment/ Is there any way to make my columns line up in IE quirks mode the same as they are lining up in Firefox? What is IE quirks mode calculating differently in the box model other than padding? Your layout is pixel-tight without a single pixel to

Re: [css-d] Browser alignment differences

2007-01-26 Thread Matt Dawson
Still, if you ever end up with a page where there is a small amount of content - especially on a big screen - that container will still stretch to the bottom of the page, leaving a largely empty column. ...but I'm glad it's working! Try adding... html, body {height: 100%;} #container

Re: [css-d] UL and LI Borders question

2007-01-26 Thread Fred Janon
Sorry, forgot to send my reply to the list as well... Hello from Australia! On 1/27/07, Fred Janon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love it! So simple of a solution! How didn't I think of it! Great, thanks Zoe! By the way the negative margin or padding doesn't work in IE, depending on what doctype