[VOTE] [PASSES] Release 2.2.31 as GA?

2015-07-16 Thread William A Rowe Jr
candidates!) that you were able to participate in, seemed unusually difficult to make it this far, but here we are at last. Yours, Bill On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:44 AM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: The pre-release candidate tarballs of Apache httpd 2.2.31, can be found

[VOTE] [24 hr] Release 2.2.31 as GA?

2015-07-15 Thread William A Rowe Jr
The pre-release candidate tarballs of Apache httpd 2.2.31, can be found in; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ +/-1 [ ] Release 2.2.31 GA (apr 1.5.2, apr-util 1.5.4) Win32 src to follow in an hour this round. With such an insignificant set of changes to a generally approved 2.2.30

Re: [VOTE] Release 2.2.30 as GA?

2015-07-14 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jul 11, 2015 10:29 AM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: The pre-release candidate tarballs of Apache httpd 2.2.30, can be found in; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ [+1] Release 2.2.30 GA (apr 1.5.2, apr-util 1.5.4) The PROXY_DECLARE bug doesn't seem

[VOTE WITHDRAWN] Release 2.2.30 as GA?

2015-07-14 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:06 AM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On Jul 11, 2015 10:29 AM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: The pre-release candidate tarballs of Apache httpd 2.2.30, can be found in; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ [+1] Release

Re: svn commit: r9814 - /release/httpd/

2015-07-14 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Hi Jim, This commit breaks our website, since the mirror they are directed to may or may not contain the current advertised 2.4.12 based on exactly when that specific mirror rsync's. Please hold off 24 hours before committing the svn rm side of the svn mv in the future... so that mirrors still

Re: [VOTE WITHDRAWN] Release 2.2.30 as GA?

2015-07-14 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jul 14, 2015 10:16 AM, Jeff Trawick traw...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks/Sorry :( Entirely my fault, I was in sync with progress to late last evening, and skimmed the morning thread. No objections to reworking the release, although my schedule keeps getting interrupted. Later this evening it

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.16 as GA

2015-07-13 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jul 10, 2015 4:34 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.16 can be found at the usual place: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.16 GA. [X] +1: Good to go Thx! And

[VOTE] Release 2.2.30 as GA?

2015-07-11 Thread William A Rowe Jr
The pre-release candidate tarballs of Apache httpd 2.2.30, can be found in; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ +/-1 [ ] Release 2.2.30 GA (apr 1.5.2, apr-util 1.5.4) Win32 src to follow shortly, vote to run through 14:30 GMT Tuesday.

Re: [RFC] Enable OCSP Stapling by default in httpd trunk

2015-07-11 Thread William A Rowe Jr
We can have a dialog about the best behavior of our default config. However... On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Kaspar Brand httpd-dev.2...@velox.ch wrote: On 01.07.2015 14:27, Ben Laurie wrote: On 1 November 2014 at 09:05, Kaspar Brand httpd-dev.2...@velox.ch wrote: The fundamental

Re: trunk/modules/http2 built and tested

2015-07-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Stefan Eissing stefan.eiss...@greenbytes.de wrote: FYI: just checked in a modules/http2 that takes part in the build process, similar options as mod_ssl --enable-h2 --with-nghttp2=path Tests were removed, so all sandbox/* is gone. Instead, I

Re: trunk/modules/http2 built and tested

2015-07-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
/framework/ a bit later on if it's possible. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Stefan Eissing stefan.eiss...@greenbytes.de wrote: Am 10.07.2015 um 17:04 schrieb William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net: On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Stefan Eissing stefan.eiss...@greenbytes.de wrote: FYI: just

Re: [NOTICE] Intent to TR 2.4.16 next week

2015-07-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
(Friday) to give 2.4 some time to settle and for people to test/review before we burn another tag :) On Jul 8, 2015, at 8:58 PM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: It appears that STATUS has been effectively resolved on both branches, nothing significant that doesn't alter APIs

Re: now what?

2015-07-08 Thread William A Rowe Jr
My only hint, if you can structure the commits to single purposes (e.g. relocate files, then a commit to merge new testcases, etc...) that is helpful. In particular - split code changes from the general reorg so it is easier to follow, much as you can see we split committing xml docs source

Re: Showstoppers

2015-07-08 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jul 8, 2015 6:59 AM, Yann Ylavic ylavic@gmail.com wrote: However maybe the proposed backport about mod_reqtimeout (PR 56729) is worth being included too, but that's not a showstopper. It somehow made his way through 2.2.30 already (r1678698) but for 2.4.x this partial fix isn't enough

Re: [NOTICE] Intent to TR 2.4.16 next week

2015-07-08 Thread William A Rowe Jr
It appears that STATUS has been effectively resolved on both branches, nothing significant that doesn't alter APIs/Directives in a significant way is ignored, and we seem to be at a stable point for a TR. One nice patch from Eric could use a vote/backport, but it is anything but critical. Jim,

Re: Showstoppers

2015-07-07 Thread William A Rowe Jr
2.4 still needs one reviewer to make the decision so we can have a 2.4, at last. Thanks to Mike for the review on the 2.2 showstopper, jumping ahead on tarballs for 2.2.30 in the morning. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:38 AM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: Hope everyone enjoyed a nice

Showstoppers

2015-07-06 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Hope everyone enjoyed a nice weekend, and a good holiday for those here in the States! On 2.4, one significant issue remains unsettled... *) mod_alias: Limit Redirect expressions to directory (Location) context and redirect statuses (implicit or explicit). trunk patch:

Re: svn commit: r1688474 [1/21] - in /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/http2: ./ m4/ mod-h2.xcodeproj/ mod-h2.xcodeproj/project.xcworkspace/ mod-h2.xcodeproj/project.xcworkspace/xcshareddata/ mod-h2.xcodepro

2015-07-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jul 3, 2015 7:35 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:13 PM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: Just to clarify, On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:26 AM, j...@apache.org wrote: Author: jim Date: Tue Jun 30 15:26:16 2015 New Revision: 1688474

Re: AW: [RFC] Enable OCSP Stapling by default in httpd trunk

2015-07-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jul 3, 2015 9:37 AM, Rob Stradling rob.stradl...@comodo.com wrote: On 03/07/15 11:13, Plüm, Rüdiger, Vodafone Group wrote: snip Thanks for the detailed explanation. So yes OCSP stapling is really beneficial if it is possible for the server admin to set it up. But it likely requires

Re: svn commit: r1688474 [1/21] - in /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/http2: ./ m4/ mod-h2.xcodeproj/ mod-h2.xcodeproj/project.xcworkspace/ mod-h2.xcodeproj/project.xcworkspace/xcshareddata/ mod-h2.xcodepro

2015-07-02 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Just to clarify, On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:26 AM, j...@apache.org wrote: Author: jim Date: Tue Jun 30 15:26:16 2015 New Revision: 1688474 URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1688474 Log: Fold in git archive master of mod_h2 (latest commit 11905f474e) from https://github.com/icing/mod_h2 as per

Re: [RFC] Enable OCSP Stapling by default in httpd trunk

2015-07-02 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Plüm, Rüdiger, Vodafone Group ruediger.pl...@vodafone.com wrote: -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: benlau...@gmail.com [mailto:benlau...@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von Ben Laurie Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Juli 2015 14:27 An: dev@httpd.apache.org Betreff:

Re: svn commit: r1688331 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/filters/mod_substitute.c

2015-06-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
I can't approve this semantic mess. EITHER it is inherit_before on trunk-2.4-2.2 with a change of default behavior, or it is inherit_after, again across all branches with a change of default behavior. The delta should consist of a one line difference, evaluating inheritance behavior within the

Re: svn commit: r1688339 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/filters/mod_substitute.c

2015-06-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:44 PM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: You ALWAYS preserve unset state. How else do you perform the THIRD merge? To be more specific, httpd is allowed to merge whatever merges it likes. If it wants to optimize for the directory and then merge the base

Re: svn commit: r1688339 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/filters/mod_substitute.c

2015-06-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
For 2.2/2.4 the delta is a one line change to trunk's behavior; On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:27 PM, wr...@apache.org wrote: Author: wrowe Date: Tue Jun 30 01:27:42 2015 New Revision: 1688339 URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1688339 Log: Very difficult to read, and therefore was wrong. Assert

Re: svn commit: r1688339 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/filters/mod_substitute.c

2015-06-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
You ALWAYS preserve unset state. How else do you perform the THIRD merge? On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Yann Ylavic ylavic@gmail.com wrote: This won't work for eg, this second level inheritance: server context is on, vhost and inner Location are unset. Location-inherit_before will

Re: svn commit: r1688331 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/filters/mod_substitute.c

2015-06-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
, 2015 at 2:03 AM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: I can't approve this semantic mess. EITHER it is inherit_before on trunk-2.4-2.2 with a change of default behavior, or it is inherit_after, again across all branches with a change of default behavior. The delta should consist

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.15 as GA

2015-06-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:01 PM, André Malo n...@perlig.de wrote: * Yann Ylavic wrote: It seems that RedirectMatch isn't documented without the third (URL) argument, unless in Location. Huh? Actually it is (or maybe I'm not getting something here). I checked at least back until 2.0.

Re: svn commit: r1688331 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/filters/mod_substitute.c

2015-06-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Yann Ylavic ylavic@gmail.com wrote: Maybe defining (naming) inherit_before tristate values would help: Not really... +a-inherit_before = (over-inherit_before == INHERIT_ON + || (over-inherit_before == INHERIT_UNSET +

Re: svn commit: r1687564 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2015-06-25 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Just a quick observation on the patch, you know you can use a tristate to avoid an int? Simply set the value to 2 in the config-create (the enum being off=0, on=1, unset=2), check for RHS 'unset' during the merge, and in the feature toggle test, explicitly check test for == of the non-default

Re: module configs across (pseudo) connections

2015-06-24 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jun 24, 2015 8:39 AM, Eric Covener cove...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Graham Leggett minf...@sharp.fm wrote: I believe we should be treating the “pseudo” connections as real connections, and perhaps by linking a “subconnection” to a “connection” (c-main) in the same

Re: Last call... STATUS needing one sec fix vote [was Re: Roll 2.2.30]

2015-06-24 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:42 AM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On Jun 18, 2015 1:45 PM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On Jun 11, 2015 8:22 AM, Eric Covener cove...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:08 AM William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net

Re: mod_session_crypto crash

2015-06-24 Thread William A Rowe Jr
If asking about crash-bugs on dev@, could you please include the backtrace? .pdb symbols make it useful, while https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff551063(v=vs.85).aspx shows how to load the user.dmp file and produce that backtrace. User in that link seems to be changing

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.15 as GA

2015-06-22 Thread William A Rowe Jr
A sort of unusual case though, first fix is a docs patch, then a test case for the newly-documented 16 year old behavior :) +1 to the collected feedback and plan. On Jun 22, 2015 9:32 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Agreed. We should also, everytime we catch something like this, add a

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.15 as GA

2015-06-22 Thread William A Rowe Jr
You are correct, however the syntax never illustrated this. It seems we need two syntaxes, not a [target] optional argument. On Jun 22, 2015 2:02 PM, André Malo n...@perlig.de wrote: * Yann Ylavic wrote: It seems that RedirectMatch isn't documented without the third (URL) argument, unless

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.15 as GA

2015-06-21 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Reindl, Try reverting http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1663259 and see if this resolves your observed defect. On Jun 21, 2015 12:53 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: in fact RedirectMatch is *completly* broken RedirectMatch 404 ^\/something\/$ and *any* URI

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.15 as GA

2015-06-21 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 21.06.2015 um 21:02 schrieb Yann Ylavic: It seems that RedirectMatch isn't documented without the third (URL) argument, unless in Location. All the way back to 1.3... the fact that it worked at all was a

Last call... STATUS needing one sec fix vote [was Re: Roll 2.2.30]

2015-06-19 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jun 18, 2015 1:45 PM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On Jun 11, 2015 8:22 AM, Eric Covener cove...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:08 AM William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: But withholding a security fix for legacy server users? Sounds like a way

Re: svn commit: r1686248 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2015-06-18 Thread William A Rowe Jr
In some cases, perhaps, but this was objection asked-and-answered so my -1 was void. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Yann Ylavic ylavic@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 5:39 PM, wr...@apache.org wrote: Author: wrowe Date: Thu Jun 18 15:39:53 2015 New Revision: 1686248

Re: Roll 2.2.30 in conjunction with 2.4.14

2015-06-18 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jun 11, 2015 8:22 AM, Eric Covener cove...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:08 AM William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: But withholding a security fix for legacy server users? Sounds like a way to earn distrust of the user community, not reassure them that 2.4.14

Re: TWS ; LWS permitted by RFC 7230 4.1.1? Apparently, no.

2015-06-16 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jun 15, 2015 6:11 PM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: On Jun 15, 2015, at 9:33 AM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: Reviewing the spec, I cannot find where Sambar server is permitted to insert whitespace. I further reviewed the ABNF appendix, and it does not appear

Re: TWS ; LWS permitted by RFC 7230 4.1.1? Apparently, no.

2015-06-16 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Note in STATUS I've requested that you split the approved patch from security@ that seemed to be lost in long and winding patch versioning from the spaces accepted. A patch should correct one thing, not several, it makes these too difficult to review when folks have a small window of free time.

Re: SSLCertificateChainFile deprecation, still

2015-06-15 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Eric Covener cove...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone else inclined to just remove the message? It's a deprecation that didn't happen on a release boundary. AFAICT there's no reason to change how you run your server unless you use two different cert chains and then

Re: TWS ; LWS permitted by RFC 7230 4.1.1? Apparently, no.

2015-06-15 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jun 15, 2015 1:26 PM, Graham Leggett minf...@sharp.fm wrote: On 15 Jun 2015, at 7:00 PM, Jeff Trawick traw...@gmail.com wrote: 1.3 (or 1.3-based servers) put whitespace there. 1.3.x, 2.0.x, 2.2.x, and 2.4.x (for all released x so far) accepts whitespace there. We can't change that by

TWS ; LWS permitted by RFC 7230 4.1.1? Apparently, no.

2015-06-15 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Reviewing the spec, I cannot find where Sambar server is permitted to insert whitespace. I further reviewed the ABNF appendix, and it does not appear there, either. The spec seems unambiguous; chunk = chunk-size [ chunk-ext ] CRLF chunk-data CRLF chunk-size =

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.14 as GA

2015-06-14 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jun 14, 2015 12:45 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: I am canceling this vote... The breakage due to the chunked stuff is the reason. THIS is the reason I don't like last-minute changes that (1) touch a LOT of code or a major code path and (2) has an extremely limited QA history.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.14 as GA

2015-06-12 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Revision 1678233 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs] Modified Thu May 7 16:26:43 2015 UTC (5 weeks, 1 day ago) by jim File length: 57106 byte(s) Diff to previous 1674655 (colored) Merge r1676085 from trunk: consistently output SSLCertificateChainFile deprecation warnings Submitted

Re: svn commit: r1685052 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES modules/ssl/ssl_engine_config.c

2015-06-12 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Rainer Jung rainer.j...@kippdata.de wrote: Am 12.06.2015 um 13:49 schrieb Yann Ylavic: Hi Christophe, On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Christophe JAILLET christophe.jail...@wanadoo.fr wrote: should this warning at startup be an issue, why not just remove

Re: httpd 2.4 and windows hangs and AcceptFilter solution

2015-06-11 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Andy Wang aw...@ptc.com wrote: Pleading windows ignorance here, but what kind of permissions problem? Both processes are elevated to administrator via UAC (or with UAC disabled) and literally as soon as you kill the parent java.exe process, it starts to work.

Re: httpd 2.4 and windows hangs and AcceptFilter solution

2015-06-11 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Andy Wang aw...@ptc.com wrote: On 06/11/2015 09:02 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: Sounds telling. Can you get your installer to stall without invoking httpd.exe - and then attempt to start httpd outside of the installer on the same machine? Something going

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.14 as GA

2015-06-11 Thread William A Rowe Jr
This is corrected in SVN, see http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/httpd/httpd/trunk/server/request.c?view=log Unsure why this edit didn't carry on to the github mirror. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Rainer Canavan rainer.cana...@sevenval.com wrote: Hi, is the commit message incorrect or the

Re: Roll 2.2.30 in conjunction with 2.4.14

2015-06-11 Thread William A Rowe Jr
A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:54 AM *Newsgroups:* gmane.comp.apache.devel *To:* httpd dev@httpd.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Review of 2.2.x security patch sought. Just a quick /nag that I'm happy to roll 2.2.30 in conjunction with 2.4.14, so that we present both

Re: httpd 2.4 and windows hangs and AcceptFilter solution

2015-06-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
It turns off all advanced socket mechanics for accepting connections. That means it won't pre-fetch data. Because of how cobbled-together the WinSock network stack drivers (third parties, included) were, there are many things that break sendfile (disable sendfile) or socket reuse (disable

Re: httpd 2.4 and windows hangs and AcceptFilter solution

2015-06-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
). This is the one I especially can't understand. How would launching httpd.exe from a installer process (java.exe specifically) prevent it from responding to requests. Andy On 06/10/2015 10:48 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: It turns off all advanced socket mechanics for accepting connections

Re: Review of 2.2.x security patch sought.

2015-06-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
, such as Watchfire, mapped how other backend and proxy implementations interacted with httpd itself, CVE-2005-2088 was upgraded to medium severity. That is a possibility and the reason for requesting review of the 2.2 backport, on an expedited basis. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 3:32 PM, William A Rowe Jr wr

Re: httpd 2.4 and windows hangs and AcceptFilter solution

2015-06-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Andy Wang aw...@ptc.com wrote: I can reproduce the first case with the installer, pretty much ondemand using our installer stuff. I've tried reproducing it by ripping out the actions that do the Runtime.exec() to call httpd.exe into a separate standalone

Re: svn commit: r1684457 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/STATUS

2015-06-09 Thread William A Rowe Jr
I don't entirely understand the patch CHANGES, however... On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:41 AM, wr...@apache.org wrote: PATCHES ACCEPTED TO BACKPORT FROM TRUNK: [ start all new proposals below, under PATCHES PROPOSED. ] * mod_ssl: bring SNI behavior into better conformance with RFC 6066

Review of 2.2.x security patch sought.

2015-06-09 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Committers, we ended up short on reviewers in the security list, and are proceeding shortly with 2.4.14. I can't proceed with 2.2.30 until I get a third set of eyeballs on the 2.2.30-dev backport, could someone offer to review ASAP? I will be tagging once the backport is approved, no other

STATUS and Backport Review efficiency

2015-06-08 Thread William A Rowe Jr
I've noticed this happening more and more often... http://httpd.markmail.org/search/?q=+list%3Aorg.apache.httpd.cvs+%22vote+discarded%22 Here's one arbitrary example - there are many committers implicated here... --- httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS (original) +++

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.13 as GA

2015-06-08 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.13 can be found at the usual place: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.13 GA. [X] -1: Danger Will

Re: mod_deflate was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.13 as GA

2015-06-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:05 AM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Christophe JAILLET christophe.jail...@wanadoo.fr wrote: This has been fixed in trunk in r1619453. ( APLOGNO(02805) ) Would you propose the backport? TIA! And... I see you did

Re: mod_deflate was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.13 as GA

2015-06-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Christophe JAILLET christophe.jail...@wanadoo.fr wrote: This has been fixed in trunk in r1619453. ( APLOGNO(02805) ) Would you propose the backport? TIA!

Re: mod_deflate was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.13 as GA

2015-06-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
at 12:11 AM, Gregg Smith g...@gknw.net wrote: On 6/4/2015 10:01 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Gregg Smithg...@gknw.net wrote: This is new, not quite sure how I didn't see it a few weeks ago as it's 9 weeks old. Who forgot to fill in the number? mod_deflate.c

Re: mod_deflate was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.13 as GA

2015-06-04 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Gregg Smith g...@gknw.net wrote: This is new, not quite sure how I didn't see it a few weeks ago as it's 9 weeks old. Who forgot to fill in the number? mod_deflate.c(1283) : warning C4003: not enough actual parameters for macro 'APLOGNO' I just rechecked

Re: TR of 2.2.30 [corresponding to Re: TR of 2.4.13]

2015-06-04 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Yes, thanks :) On Jun 4, 2015 4:43 PM, Rob Stradling rob.stradl...@comodo.com wrote: s/2.2.13/2.2.30/ ? -- Rob Stradling Senior Research Development Scientist COMODO - Creating Trust Online

Re: svn commit: r1683044 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/server/core.c

2015-06-04 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Marion Christophe JAILLET christophe.jail...@wanadoo.fr wrote: I agree that the wording of the Changelog could be more meaningful. Apparently these functions are only used during conf parsing. So, I propose to turn is into: Small speed optimization when

TR of 2.2.13 [corresponding to Re: TR of 2.4.13]

2015-06-04 Thread William A Rowe Jr
response in some edge cases, I consider this one important enough to hold up 2.2 tag for some more hours. Bill On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:36 PM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Although there are some cool things

Re: TR of 2.2.13 [corresponding to Re: TR of 2.4.13]

2015-06-04 Thread William A Rowe Jr
More context at your fingertips without refreshing httpd-2.2 branch, first... https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57832 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:26 AM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: [Changing subject, don't mean to hijack the 2.4 activity train] There is a modestly

Re: svn commit: r1683044 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/server/core.c

2015-06-03 Thread William A Rowe Jr
I tried to reconcile your patch with your svn log entry and I failed. Could you either correct or explain further? TIA, Bill On Jun 2, 2015 12:40 AM, jaillet...@apache.org wrote: Author: jailletc36 Date: Tue Jun 2 05:40:57 2015 New Revision: 1683044 URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1683044

Re: ALPN patch comments

2015-06-03 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Stefan Eissing stefan.eiss...@greenbytes.de wrote: Hmm, personally, I do not like redundant configurations. If someone configures a module, like mod_h2, to be enabled (H2Engine on), she could expect the module to take all the necessary steps. So I am no fan of

Re: TR of 2.4.13

2015-06-02 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Although there are some cool things that I'd like to see in 2.4.13, I don't want to hold off any longer (plus, those cool things would be good incentive for a 2.4.14 sooner rather than later). I plan to TR 2.4.13 on

PMC Reporting [Was: Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0]

2015-05-30 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Daniel Ruggeri drugg...@primary.net wrote: P.S. I'm not a Member or PMC... do I have access to the report that spurred the conversation? Adding the context back to the thread... On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: FWIW:

Re: httpd and OpenSSL 1.0.2

2015-05-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Don't be fooled. OpenSSL 1.0.1 did not break binary compatibility, the lib designation remains .so.1.0.0. Can someone confirm whether this was changed in 1.0.2? On May 29, 2015 10:26 AM, Mario Brandt jbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andy, it seems that you are right. After cheking the lib I saw

Re: Good at assembler ? (Was:httpd - side channel attack - timing of digest comparisons)

2015-05-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Secondly - when we get to the end of the shorter string; we can either keep comparing to the last char or \0; or we go ‘modulo’ to the start of the string. Now modulo is perhaps not ideal; and seems to affect the pipeline on the XEON cpu (something I confess not to quite understand; and I cannot

Re: Measurement - Jeff's metric [was: [VOTE] Simplified 2.2.x EOL Decision]

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On May 28, 2015 8:38 AM, Yann Ylavic ylavic@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:32 AM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:22 AM, Yann Ylavic ylavic@gmail.com wrote: I think I would have preferred Jeff's form of the vote, which would

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
More data points and history to ponder, with placeholders to reflect the passage of time; 1998-06-06 Initial 1.3.0 Release 1999-03-24 Stable 1.3.6 Release (last major MMN bump) 2000 2001 2002-04-05 Initial 2.0.35 Release 2002-09-24 Stable 2.0.42 Release (last major MMN bump) 2003 2004 2005-12-01

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On May 27, 2015 9:46 AM, Jeff Trawick traw...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Jeff Trawick traw...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Anyone else think it's time to EOL 2.2 and focus on 2.4 and the next gen? My thoughts

Re: [VOTE] Simplified 2.2.x EOL Decision

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
threads you can read in our archives follow the same pattern each time. In general, Jeff's much more diplomatic answer becomes the consensus, and the project moves on. To answer your more detailed question; On May 28, 2015, at 12:44 AM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: Choose one

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: Ubuntu - 14.04 LTS, and Debian 8 (Jessie) got the message, a year ago April. RHEL / CentOS 7 aren't even a year old yet. OpenSUSE 13.1 beat them all to the punch, back in Nov of '13. So that's the oldest

Ad-hominem [was: [VOTE] Simplified 2.2.x EOL Decision]

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:48 AM, Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: On 28/05/2015 14:48, William A Rowe Jr wrote: Enough of this ad-hominem BS... [...] You've lost the argument and lost respect, you have demonstrated that by this pathetic and childish response. Just because others

Measurement - Jeff's metric [was: [VOTE] Simplified 2.2.x EOL Decision]

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:22 AM, Yann Ylavic ylavic@gmail.com wrote: I think I would have preferred Jeff's form of the vote, which would have allowed us to know the potential operating forces on 2.2.x. We determined from that poll that there were 3 committers who would fix bugs on 2.2,

Re: httpd - side channel attack - timing of digest comparisons

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On May 26, 2015 10:31 AM, Dirk-Willem van Gulik di...@webweaving.org wrote: On 26 May 2015, at 17:22, Dirk-Willem van Gulik di...@webweaving.org wrote: .. So I think that what is needed are two (or three) functions ... - A string comparison function; where at least one string is is

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 08:28:35 +1000 Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: Time to think about EOL'ing 2.2 maybe since its 10 years old and 2.4 has been current stable best production recommendation for what, about 3.5 years or so now

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Anyone else think it's time to EOL 2.2 and focus on 2.4 and the next gen? Nope, we'll let the internet speak for itself - http://w3techs.com/technologies/history_details/ws-apache/2 We are nowhere near close enough to

Re: SSL/TLS best current practice

2015-05-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Andy Wang aw...@ptc.com wrote: On 05/26/2015 11:25 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Yann Ylavic ylavic@gmail.com mailto:ylavic@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Andy Wang aw...@ptc.com

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Focus your energy on anything you like. Can't grok whether that's snarky or not... I'll assume not :) Please assume not :) ASF projects should still remain scratch-your-own-itch(es). Your message certainly had an

Re: [VOTE] Simplified 2.2.x EOL Decision

2015-05-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:44 PM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: Choose one; [ ] EOL the 2.2.x branch effective 5/31/16; strictly security releases to that date [X] Defer a 2.2.x EOL decision for 6 months and re-consider this proposal in Nov, '15. Enough of this ad-hominem

[VOTE] Simplified 2.2.x EOL Decision

2015-05-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Choose one; [ ] EOL the 2.2.x branch effective 5/31/16; strictly security releases to that date [ ] Defer a 2.2.x EOL decision for 6 months and re-consider this proposal in Nov, '15.

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: On 28/05/2015 03:17, Jim Jagielski wrote: [...] maybe it's time to say that 2.2's era is done, and 2.4's time is here, if not already past. I'm simply trying to encourage us to work on the future and not focus on the

Re: SSL/TLS best current practice

2015-05-26 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Yann Ylavic ylavic@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Andy Wang aw...@ptc.com wrote: # SSL Cipher Suite: # List the ciphers that the client is permitted to negotiate. # See the mod_ssl documentation for a complete list.

Re: svn commit: r1681275 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/STATUS

2015-05-23 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On May 23, 2015 2:00 AM, rj...@apache.org wrote: + 2.2.x patch: http://people.apache.org/~rjung/patches/httpd-2.2.x-mod_log_config-more_time_formats-v2.patch +1: rjung, wrowe + rjung: I had forgotten the docs part. Added in v2 patch. OK to keep Bill's vote? IIRC we treat docs as

Platform specific CTR/RTC?

2015-05-22 Thread William A Rowe Jr
I think this has sat enough in STATUS that I'll commit by lazy consensus prior to tag and roll of 2.2.30, unless anyone has a legitimate correction/objection? It might be worth mentioning that it's been in production for about 3-4 years or so, and only was delayed in 2.2 due to the unavoidable

CONNECT 2.2 behavior

2015-05-22 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Folks, someone please give this a third pair of eyeballs, the change discussed in bugzilla is the correct behavior. * mod_proxy: use the original (non absolute) form of the request-line's URI for requests embedded in CONNECT payloads used to connect SSL backends via a ProxyRemote

Are 80 columns really that challenging?

2015-05-22 Thread William A Rowe Jr
I mentioned this w.r.t. a 2.2 STATUS entry, that it is not a good place for a long-winded dialog... But when it comes to STATUS and CHANGES, come on... the project has an 80 col style (76 if you want to remain legible through svn diff and similar)... I'd like to review, but AFAICT this isn't a

httpd-2.2 STATUS logging proposals

2015-05-22 Thread William A Rowe Jr
At some point, after a proposal has repeatedly morphed, the STATUS entry has to be trashed and restarted from a fresh point of concensus. The mod_log_config suggestions are at that point. If nobody else acts by the weekend, I'm moving it all to Stalled.

Re: Platform specific CTR/RTC?

2015-05-22 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Jeff Trawick traw...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: I think Bill's main point is that other than himself and gsmith, nobody else tests on MS/Win. There might be others who test when something seems

Re: SO_REUSEPORT

2015-05-15 Thread William A Rowe Jr
My chief concern was that the phrase Common Log has a specific meaning to us. ap_mpm_common_log_startup() or something else descriptive would be a better name, but our crew is famous for not being terrific namers of things :) Did this compile with no warnings? It seems statics were used without

Re: svn commit: r1679428 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf.in

2015-05-14 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Proposed for backport on both 2.2 and 2.4 branches. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:44 PM, wr...@apache.org wrote: Author: wrowe Date: Thu May 14 18:44:52 2015 New Revision: 1679428 URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1679428 Log: Conform to RFC 7525, with additional suggestion to drop RSA Kx ciphers

Re: Looking ahead to 2.4.13 / 2.2.30

2015-05-08 Thread William A Rowe Jr
FWIW... On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Michael Felt mamf...@gmail.com wrote: From my perspective - as a simple packager (re: openssl - old versions) I run into the problem of only being able to get to 0.9.8.k (AIX 5.3 TL12) So, an operating system that has been unsupported for the past 2

Re: Looking ahead to 2.4.13 / 2.2.30

2015-05-07 Thread William A Rowe Jr
to take a more in-depth look at 2.4... But I am +1 for a release v. soon. Yeah, I'll RM 2.4 On Apr 30, 2015, at 5:52 PM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:46 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:49:47 -0400 Jim

Re: SSL/TLS best current practice

2015-05-06 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Here is my proposed global config for httpd.conf.in for 2.4 and 2.2, which I believe mirrors the 'MUST' of RFC 7525. This includes restoring the SSLProtocol -SSLv3 for 2.4 so that it is plainly visible, irrespective of system defaults. For trunk, I propose we drop TLSv1 and TLSv1.1 protocols and

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