> e) are a majority of people in the world really as stupid as they
> continue to appear to be?
>
In my opinion... YES!
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I would like to know where the sheaves of blockquotes and irritating
hieroglyphic html code comes from?
I simply just type things.
Kind regards,
Michael Moore
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>f) ...if I have offended, may I offer my recent consumption of two
>gigantic and delicious Manhattans as an expedient excuse for my
>tactlessness?
>
Happy New Year!!! Almost new year in Sydney, Australia
>..Oh, and by the way, Happy New Year!
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a) must all of Michael Moore's posts always be accompanied by sheaves of
blockquotes and equally as abundandant quanities of irritating
hieroglyphic html code?
b) Re: rip-offs what do people expect when they deal with inherently
dishonest systems such as credit cards and bank debt instruments
Loryn E. Jenkins wrote:
> You may be pleased to know that, just last night, an Individual Sovereign
> opened an account with us.
Which is to say they took a printed application via snail-mail,
and that I've not yet had a chance to verify they correctly entered my
information into their database,
This whole
issue of annonymous accounts/fraud/privacy can be resolved quitesimply
it seems to me.Firstly the accounts.e-gold, or SR or
Goldmoney and who ever is the new gold supplier that willbe
opening in the new year simply sets up three types of
accounts.xx is the standard account
Hi there,
Would you believe it, I have found a Free
VISA CARD. Take a quick look at www.visarebates.com . They're giving
away free Visa cards with free flight miles on any airline and
paying people a ton of money to refer their contacts. And this isn't very hard!
This thing is spreading l
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At 8:48 PM -0500 12/30/00, B Ray wrote:
>http://www.yoursolutions.net/goldrush/
I musyt say that's a good, SIMPLE, sensi
At 8:48 PM -0500 12/30/00, B Ray wrote:
>http://www.yoursolutions.net/goldrush/
I musyt say that's a good, SIMPLE, sensible looking xchange provider
(I have absolutely no idea who's running it, if it's a crooked one,
or whatever! :) )
Thank god for simple, clear instructions.
Whoever is runn
Boyd wrote:
>It can also work in the reverse, I want to sell, the MM deposits cash
to my acct, I spend the egold to his.
>It does take a leaf of faith the first time this is done, or maybe
even the first 2 or 3 times ...
Not for much longer... watch this space...
Sidd.
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Sent: December 30, 2000 11:45:19 PM GMT
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: SR & Identity
It's real simple -- If you want to retain anonymity -- then do not request
to sett
Dale,
I am very sympathetic to your efforts and goals.
> What I am interested in is helping to develop a viable and
> legal ALTERNATIVE to the crooked pirate scheme of the FED et
> al. This is NOT in defiance of the system but is a reach for
> freedom and privacy (to be left alone and in peac
Reid,
Your alive! Oh, I am so happy to know your reading these discussion
lists! Now, can you please answer the $65 K dollar question of the day:
What is the reason the e-gold website is down and how soon are you
projecting it to be back up?
My phone has been ringing off the hook (as i
When I asked if e-biz and e-gold were related I was referring to the down
time and closure of e-biz. It occurred to me masses of e-biz 'participants'
would be trying to asccess their egold accounts at the same time. As there
are about 30 thousand of them (i have been told) I imagine that wo
Dale wrote:
>Not so (in my case anyway). I went around and around with my bank
about the SS#
illegal requirement. The bank is bound by their contract with the FED
system to
acquire the SS# or they are fined as per their private contract.
Eventually I
relented because I needed to conduct business -
Eric Gaither said on Saturday, December 30, 2000 7:34 PM:
> How trusting you must be in this inter-related world. Yes, there is a
> good chance the two are not related, however, due to the volume of money
> e-biz had in e-gold, my thoughts steer to the relation. Did you
> ever see the
> publi
"Eric Gaither, Gaithman's E-Gold Exchange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Another one of those ponzi scams? If so, then in no way will e-gold be
>> related to it.
>
> How trusting you must be in this inter-related world. Yes, there is a
> good chance the two are not related, however, due to th
Jim.,
>Frankly,, lets call a spade a spade,, the only reason we require any kind
>of ID or verification is simply incase your payment goes wrong -- then >we
have some means of finding you and extracting the payment for the >bullion
you
> received (on your word that your payment was good).
Yo
> > Because the value of e-gold derives from its utility as a means
> > that enables individuals to trade freely in defiance of the
> > state. It would cease to be useful for this purpose if submission
> > to the state, which is what identification amounts to, is required
> > as a condition of us
Sidd,
I agree with you on the fact it was copied and pasted. I did not mean
to imply it was written specifically for E-biz ventures. Reid, I am sorry
if that was misconstrued.
What I meant was the volume of spends being done to E-biz on a nightly
basis caused many a technical problem
Sidd wrote:
>
> BUT, anyone who has a credit card or cheque account is already deeply
> ensconced in the "system" and is obviously not TOO concerned about
> privacy anyway.
Not so (in my case anyway). I went around and around with my bank about the SS#
illegal requirement. The bank is bound by t
>>
>>Fact is, any method of payment to an MM (besides cash in hand) leaves
>>a trail back to the payer. Even an "anonymous" reputation system that
>>allowed me to accept a CC or cheque from someone without knowing his
>>identity, would result in the banking transactions revealing his
>>identity to
Eric Wrote:
>Did you ever see the
>public apology Reid Jackson posted on the e-biz site?
Oops!
Eric, that public apology was addressed to the e-gold list, and was
merely COPIED by the operators of e-biz to their site. The apology did
not in ANY way refer to e-biz at all, it was a GENERAL APOLOG
Edwin,
Another one of those ponzi scams? If so, then in no way will e-gold be
> related to it.
How trusting you must be in this inter-related world. Yes, there is a
good chance the two are not related, however, due to the volume of money
e-biz had in e-gold, my thoughts steer to the relation
Hi CCS and all,
This conversation has really developed into something truly
stimulating and thought provoking. What I am seeing is that there
appear to really be 2 issues here
A)The customers (participants') need for privacy and transactions
based on reputation and
B)The need to protect the exis
markab23 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am getting a HTTP1 Server busy with the e-gold site .
> Also the e-biz sites have been shut down I notice.
> I wonder if they are related?
What's e-biz?
Another one of those ponzi scams? If so, then in no way will e-gold be
related to it.
Edwin
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> Hmmm,, some more bad news,,, to a certain extent,, even Gold can be
> counterfeited,, could you tell the difference between a gold plated bar
and
> a solid gold bar with just a cursory visual inspection?
>
> Tis all a slippery slope if one's not careful.
It is difficult, though, to counterfeit
Hmmm,, some more bad news,,, to a certain extent,, even Gold can be
counterfeited,, could you tell the difference between a gold plated bar and
a solid gold bar with just a cursory visual inspection?
Tis all a slippery slope if one's not careful.
Regards,
>>
>>> Even cold hard cash can be cou
> > > > E-Gold needs to identify account owners too. I don't know if they
> > > > plan to do this, but I would like to see some sort of 'low balance
> > > > limit' on accounts whose owners cannot be identified with certainty.
> > >
> > > That would be the END of e-gold.
> >
> > Why?
> Because th
"Eric Gaither, Gaithman's E-Gold Exchange" wrote:
>
> > Why not accept only bank wire and Western Union transfers?
>
> We are always streamlining our payment options. Did you know that
> money orders and postal orders can be counterfeited?
I've heard of this. Characteristic of "creatable"
I'm OK with "DEBT instruments" denominated in Gold as long as its clear they
are NOT money. IMO, it was the fraudulent issue of more gold certificates
than gold, which started the corruption of modern currencies.
Instead of convicting the fraudsters, governments licensed them, so banks
have been
I am getting a HTTP1 Server busy with the e-gold site .
Also the e-biz sites have been shut down I notice.
I wonder if they are related?
Chucky
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> > > E-Gold needs to identify account owners too. I don't know if they
> > > plan to do this, but I would like to see some sort of 'low balance
> > > limit' on accounts whose owners cannot be identified with certainty.
> >
> > That would be the END of e-gold.
>
> Why?
>
> Craig
Because the
> > E-Gold needs to identify account owners too. I don't know if they
> > plan to do this, but I would like to see some sort of 'low balance
> > limit' on accounts whose owners cannot be identified with certainty.
>
> That would be the END of e-gold.
Why?
Craig
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Eric,
Thank you for your comments.
> I hope I did not appear "harsh" or "conceited" as I do
> appreciate your offering suggestions.
No, I wasn't bothered a bit.
> Sometimes I reply a "little to quickly" and my replies are
> often mistaken for criticisms or insult.
Same here. I was
Dale,
Yes, you are correct about this (more than you probably know!):
>Seems the market makers, by accepting checks and credit
> cards, are open to fraud and scammers by the very nature of checks and
credit
> cards. Why accept them at all? I admit this allows for quicker growth of
the
> numbe
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Hi Eric,
This discussion is very positive bringing out a lot of hithertofore unknown
details at least to me. Seems the mark
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Hi Eric,
This discussion is very positive bringing out a lot of hithertofore unknown
details at least to me. Seems the mark
At 11:21 AM 12/30/2000 -0600, Eric Gaither, Gaithman's E-Gold Exchange wrote:
>Jeff,
>
>. I really respect the way SR has handled the recent questions. I am
> > sure if we had the option of privacy friendly services we all would use
> > them. Instead we need to do a lot of research or create them
Could not agree with you more.
Does anyone think that some sort of escrow sytem similar to ebay might help solve some
of the problem with the dishonest buyers and sellers on the egold system?
Boyd Pate
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"Eric Gaither, Gaithman's E-Gold Exchange" wrote:
>
> You are sooo right about things not working in their current state. I
> personally have been hit for close to $18 K in bad checks (not counting the
> ones I never even bothered to deposit) this MONTH alone. These were from
> people in th
Craig,
Actually, thank you for your reply. I hope I did not appear "harsh" or
"conceited" as I do appreciate your offering suggestions. Sometimes I
reply a "little to quickly" and my replies are often mistaken for criticisms
or insult. To the contrary, I just enjoy engaging in a good deba
> Anyone else sick to death of Standard Reserve's posts here?
No. While I disagree with their mind set, I thought they were
very open and responsive and potentially constructive. That is
rare and precious and I applaud it.
> Andthree cheers for Destiny Worldwide's philosophy!
As do I.
> I think what we are all getting at is that no one cares who you are if
> you pay, provide a service, or ship product on time. If you break a
> 'contract' we want a way to get you to honor the contract, or refund us,
> or failing that lower your reputation to warn your customers (maybe a
> little
> > You do not have any need to "verify" accounts. You don't need to
> > know the person's name or prove who the person is or that the
> > person matches some government identifying number. All you need to
> > do is to establish that the money in the account belongs to the
> > person who control
Anyone else sick to death of Standard Reserve's posts here?
Andthree cheers for Destiny Worldwide's philosophy!
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Jeff,
. I really respect the way SR has handled the recent questions. I am
> sure if we had the option of privacy friendly services we all would use
> them. Instead we need to do a lot of research or create them along with
> the business we are creating too.
I could not agree more! Does any
I think what we are all getting at is that no one cares who you are if
you pay, provide a service, or ship product on time. If you break a
'contract' we want a way to get you to honor the contract, or refund us,
or failing that lower your reputation to warn your customers (maybe a
little retributi
> > "Any week now" there will be a general one available. Most will be
> > willing to participate at least a little. The bad news is you need a
> > funded e-gold account (although I just got an idea to minimize this :),
>
> I have no problem with spending metal. For this to work in the long
> ru
> He had just been scammed by five individuals utilizing
> PayPal. So much for trusting those you do not know
If the light was turned-on, you'd probably find that those 5 individuals
sending payments through PayPal are, in fact, the same person.
Craig
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> You do not have any need to "verify" accounts. You don't need to
> know the person's name or prove who the person is or that the
> person matches some government identifying number. All you need to
> do is to establish that the money in the account belongs to the
> person who controls the acco
At 6:06 AM -0800 12/30/00, Jeff Fitzmyers wrote:
>> General reputation trackers/sellers are going to have a hard time
>> coming up with a method that works for most needs.
>
>"Any week now" there will be a general one available. Most will be
>willing to participate at least a little. The bad news
Jeff Fitzmyers wrote:
>
> > General reputation trackers/sellers are going to have a hard time
> > coming up with a method that works for most needs.
>
> "Any week now" there will be a general one available. Most will be
> willing to participate at least a little. The bad news is you need a
> fun
> General reputation trackers/sellers are going to have a hard time
> coming up with a method that works for most needs.
"Any week now" there will be a general one available. Most will be
willing to participate at least a little. The bad news is you need a
funded e-gold account (although I just g
CCS wrote:
> For instance, I presume you have established customers you do know
> and have come to trust. You could ask new customers for a
> recommendation or guarantee from an existing, trusted customer. This
> would mean a lot more than the imprimature of the cursed government.
I would be
Business opportunity and major design challenge:
Philadelphia Inquirer: Locked out.
Active Web users have to manage about 15 passwords for daily use,
according to
Forrester Research Inc., an Internet research firm. By some estimates,
half of
all service calls to Web businesses are from people ask
sidd, a bit of a guess, but check to
see if the form submit you're doing is
a GET instead of a POST...if so try
POST.
jay w.
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Sidd wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> When I use the confirm.asp URL and fill in the optional "memo" field,
> I find that all white space is removed. Thus "Thanks
> The drawback is that we also make wonderful targets for those you
> mention:
This is no in no way a justification for the crooks but: part of
the reason for this is your own business practices.
> I think MOST of the privacy buffs fear the SS # requirement solely
> for one main reason: they
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