[e-gold-list] Re: WHY WORK?

2003-10-14 Thread Katz Global Media
Hi, this has been one of my favorite sites for many years. it has been around a long time and I found it by trying to find a great article written by Bob Black that i read maybe 10-12 years ago, called The Abolition of Work http://whywork.org/rethinking/whywork/abolition.html? which first line

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-20 Thread jpm
Dbourse didn't have a shopping cart interface so I didn't fund my account yet. To be clear, beacuse there is no shopping cart and it's done by humans, that annoyed you so much you didn't use it? Intriguing! I wonder if there's a lot of that? They claim to be adding auto spends in the future.

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-19 Thread Ragnar
JP, --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say Rag, did these GET FILLED ALREADY? I don't see it on the order of sales list .. ?? Or did you not do it yet? No-one sold to me at 97 yet, it's still sitting there - looking for a weak hand who wants to sell a share! Come on! :) Dbourse didn't

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-16 Thread jpm
I created an account, but there doesn't seem to be a way to fund one's account with a shopping cart. One has to email dbourse. I wanted to place a bid for 5 shares at 90. Say Rag, did these GET FILLED ALREADY? I don't see it on the order of sales list .. ?? Or did you not do it yet? No-one

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-14 Thread Ragnar
James, --- James M. Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danny Van den Berghe wrote:. ... Hmm, I see the TGC stocks trade down at 90. This person who put in a low bid at 90 got his 5 shares rather quickly. I think you mean sold. I wish I had pounced on one, actually, but I was too slow.

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-14 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
So, if gold is at $380, the average customer will bring in about 1 ounce. If gold is at $4000, the average customer will bring 0.1 ounce If gold goes to $40, then the average customer will come with 10 ounces. I think you are thinking in terms of dollars. If gold goes to $4,000/

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-13 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
You can put it in your 'predictions' file, most people have it in the 'basic economics' file. This is so silly it is not even worth addressing. We are used to that kind of statements from you. Note: It usually means jpm agrees, for people who are new on the board. If the Euro goes down

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-13 Thread Jeff Fitzmyers
So, if gold is at $380, the average customer will bring in about 1 ounce. If gold is at $4000, the average customer will bring 0.1 ounce If gold goes to $40, then the average customer will come with 10 ounces. I think you are thinking in terms of dollars. If gold goes to $4,000/ ounce, bread will

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-12 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
So, in gold terms their revenues will have downward pressure when the gold price rises. Danny classic, another prediction! someone make a note! It's not a prediction, it's a simple mathematical deduction. I remember it was you who told here that the average customer on a casino is

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-12 Thread jpm
Go to http://dbourse.com, press the New User: Create Account, and create your account. Then you'll need to fund your account -- for this, note that the account creation instructs you to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can fund an account with e-gold or 1mdc, and probably other DGCs like

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-12 Thread jpm
classic, another prediction! someone make a note! It's not a prediction, it's a simple mathematical deduction. hilarious... at any event, let's put it in the predictions file. It raises an interesting question -- how are IG systems affected by moves in the gold price? (market makers

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-12 Thread Jonathan Boles
On Friday, Sep 12, 2003, at 09:32 Atlantic/Azores, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Annoyingly, it seems to not work with one os/browser combination -- OSX/Safari. The developers must be some idiots...) I'm using OS 10.2.6/Safari 1.0 (v85) and it works perfectly :) --- You are currently

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-12 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
It's not a prediction, it's a simple mathematical deduction. hilarious... at any event, let's put it in the predictions file. You can put it in your 'predictions' file, most people have it in the 'basic economics' file. What I am describing is just the same like what any company experiences

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-12 Thread jpm
You can put it in your 'predictions' file, most people have it in the 'basic economics' file. This is so silly it is not even worth addressing. But if we have to .. it's ironic you give the example of McDonald's as it exactly and precisely does not work like that. (Well, it didn't for Wendy's

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-11 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
The reason *I* am in love with The Gold Casino is that on the 1st of every month I get my dividends. I own 40 shares --- and the shares have been trading for three months now. In fact on the 1st of NEXT month it says the divdend increasesm, so they say. Hence, on the 1st of every month I

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-11 Thread James M. Ray
Danny Van den Berghe wrote:. ... Hmm, I see the TGC stocks trade down at 90. This person who put in a low bid at 90 got his 5 shares rather quickly. I think you mean sold. I wish I had pounced on one, actually, but I was too slow. That in itself is not such a problem, but one would expect to see

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-11 Thread Gold Price
Danny Van den Berghe wrote:. ... Hmm, I see the TGC stocks trade down at 90. Anyone who bought shares in TGC at the start can offer their TGC shares for 89.2 grams and still break even. This is based on a 9% increase in the gold price ($345 to $380) and the 1.8% return from dividends so far.

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-11 Thread jpm
Anyone who bought shares in TGC at the start can offer their TGC shares for 89.2 grams and still break even. This is based on a 9% increase in the gold price ($345 to $380) and the 1.8% return from dividends so far. Regards, Joel Bruce A ! Good thinking Joel. Perhaps that explains why

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-11 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
Hmm, I see the TGC stocks trade down at 90. This person who put in a low bid at 90 got his 5 shares rather quickly. I think you mean sold. I wish I had pounced on one, actually, but I was too slow. No, no , I remember jpm mentioned here a few weeks ago that someone had put in a bid for

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-11 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
Hmm, I see the TGC stocks trade down at 90. Anyone who bought shares in TGC at the start can offer their TGC shares for 89.2 grams and still break even. This is based on a 9% increase in the gold price ($345 to $380) and the 1.8% return from dividends so far. True, but somebody who just

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-11 Thread Asiana Gold
Danny wrote: Another overlooked factor is the effect that changes in the price of gold have on TGC business. I bet TGC didn't overlook the changes in the gold price when they scheduled the launch of http://dbourse.com. Their timing was perfect! 10KG worth of shares were sold in the first week

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-11 Thread James M. Ray
Danny Van den Berghe wrote: ... Most people still think in dollars. Most of them would go to the casino with the same amount in dollars , and that would mean only half that much gold.. I think TGC forces them all -- better than I ever could -- to slowly start thinking in terms of grams instead

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-11 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
Most people still think in dollars. Most of them would go to the casino with the same amount in dollars , and that would mean only half that much gold.. I think TGC forces them all -- better than I ever could -- to slowly start thinking in terms of grams instead of dollars when it comes

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-11 Thread jpm
So, in gold terms their revenues will have downward pressure when the gold price rises. Danny classic, another prediction! someone make a note! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-11 Thread Space Gold
Hmm, I see the TGC stocks trade down at 90. This person who put in a low bid at 90 got his 5 shares rather quickly. That in itself is not such a problem, but one would expect to see more bids coming in at 90 if there is any demand out there. Why pay 100 if somebody succesfully bought at 90

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-11 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 06:26 PM, Space Gold wrote: Those who are looking to buy TGC shares have nothing to loose by putting in bids at 95, 90 , even 85. Where are they? Has demand completely dried up already? So how do I buy TGC shares? Go to http://dbourse.com, press the New

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-07 Thread jpm
Dear Bill, By WIWO I just meant walk in, walk out. This term is used in business to signify a business that is -- well, walk in, walk out For instance, a newsstand where someone sells newspapers and magazines is a WIWO type of business. The thing sold is a commodity and there is little or no

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-06 Thread Katz Global Media
clever spam... Go Gold Casino! yea! So today I am at a Indian Reservation playing live blackjack at the $5 table and the dealer is consistently beating me or pushing. So she pulls up a 21. Ok fine... another 21... ok unlikely but I can relate to the bad luck. then comes another... Ok this is

[e-gold-list] Re: Why I am in love with the gold casino.

2003-09-06 Thread jpm
Bingo Bango bloody Bongo, 4 gold bars come up again and I am 30 grams richer! The reason *I* am in love with The Gold Casino is that on the 1st of every month I get my dividends. I own 40 shares --- and the shares have been trading for three months now. In fact on the 1st of NEXT month it says

[e-gold-list] Re: why are TGC shares a runaway success?

2003-06-28 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
Adam, it seems to me you are looking FOR all the usual features that are offered in shares. No, we are looking for the features THEY have set for their shares. If you want to buy something you'll usually want a desciption of what is being offered to you. Because in the normal world you can

[e-gold-list] Re: why are TGC shares a runaway success?

2003-06-28 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
Incidentally, you're somewhat correct -- they might be asking a ridiculously low price of only 40,000 grams for 10% of the company. Right. They might also be asking a ridiclously HIGH price .. In absence of numbers we cannot judge it. For example, do you think the principals would

[e-gold-list] Re: why are TGC shares a runaway success?

2003-06-27 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 07:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance, I'm very disappointed in this ridiculous platitude where they claim the shares are worth 10% of the company ... (ie they have a crystal ball - They're not making a prediction, they are choosing a price at which they

[e-gold-list] Re: why are TGC shares a runaway success?

2003-06-27 Thread jpm
They're not making a prediction, they are choosing a price at which they are willing to sell off 10% of the company. They're just asking a price, seeing if they can get it. Looks like they can, so far. True, like I said, you and I discussed it at phenomenal length and came to no more than a

[e-gold-list] Re: why are TGC shares a runaway success?

2003-06-27 Thread James M. Ray
At 10:04 AM +1000 6/28/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... the phrase FIRESTORM OF INSANE BURNING SUCCES UNPRECEDENTED IN THE WORLD OF COMMERCE comes to mind It's a spectacular, staggering, mind-numbing event for the world. For world history. It's absolutely seminal. It's a staggeringly

[e-gold-list] Re: Why _anonymous_ digital bearer instruments?

2003-03-22 Thread Patrick
But Patrick, How do i use these anonymous bearer instruments you've been working on? What's the URL? http://lucrative.thirdhost.com/ How does it all work? Is it true that if you lose one you've lost it (just like cash I guess). Yes, if you lose the document you lose the asset.

[e-gold-list] Re: Why _anonymous_ digital bearer instruments?

2003-03-22 Thread Patrick
Say I have some Lucrative, value 1550 units. Do I sort of gve you the 1550 and you give me a new one, change, or can i split up my 1550 one into smaller, uh, sections? I think Patrick has adopted the method used by Digicash: binary value coins (1,2,4,8,16...). Not very intuitive for

[e-gold-list] Re: Why _anonymous_ digital bearer instruments?(was: Re: Let's talk MONEY!)

2003-03-21 Thread Arik Schenkler
Joris shalom, BTW no need to reply to both my email address and the mailinglist, I am subscribed so I get your emails double. Okay -:). With Lucre the coin is (x,z). x beeing a random ID, z beeing the signature of oneway(x). If the mint knows the 'coincode' (x,z), it can track

[e-gold-list] Re: Why _anonymous_ digital bearer instruments?

2003-03-21 Thread Joris Bontje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 03:27:58PM +0200, Arik Schenkler wrote: We at I$ have solved this problem by not asking Bob details. We issue another C2 for a legite C1. It is just how paranoid you are. The mint knows that C1 and C2 are

[e-gold-list] Re: Why _anonymous_ digital bearer instruments?

2003-03-21 Thread jpm
An anonymous digital bearer instrument system would have prevented such a problem from affecting them as an instrument holder. Such problems become, as they should, the issuer's, and the liability is theirs. Sincerely, Patrick But Patrick, How do i use these anonymous bearer instruments

[e-gold-list] Re: Why _anonymous_ digital bearer instruments?

2003-03-21 Thread jpm
thank you for the run down! Say I have some Lucrative, value 1550 units. So its like one certificate for 1550 units. Say I want to give you say 20.50 units (say I've just bought a car from you, for example) Do I sort of gve you the 1550 and you give me a new one, change, or can i split up my

[e-gold-list] Re: Why _anonymous_ digital bearer instruments?

2003-03-21 Thread Steve Schear
At 06:19 PM 3/22/2003 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thank you for the run down! Say I have some Lucrative, value 1550 units. So its like one certificate for 1550 units. Say I want to give you say 20.50 units (say I've just bought a car from you, for example) Do I sort of gve you the 1550

[e-gold-list] Re: Why _anonymous_ digital bearer instruments?(was: Re: Let's talk MONEY!)

2003-03-20 Thread Arik Schenkler
Joris shalom, Lucre is the technical system for the coin handling. Lucrative is an application using Lucre to make it work as an usable DBI system. I did try both. Lucre works, but to actually use it you need some sort of application on top of it, this is what Lucrative does; both for the

[e-gold-list] Re: Why _anonymous_ digital bearer instruments? (was: Re: Let's talk MONEY!)

2003-03-20 Thread Joris Bontje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 12:29:22AM +0200, Arik Schenkler wrote: Joris shalom, Hi Arik :) BTW no need to reply to both my email address and the mailinglist, I am subscribed so I get your emails double. With Lucre the coin is (x,z). x beeing a

[e-gold-list] Re: Why _anonymous_ digital bearer instruments? (was: Re: Let's talk MONEY!)

2003-03-18 Thread Joris Bontje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 11:36:15PM +0200, Arik Schenkler wrote: Sorry for being late in responding. No problem! Thanks for responding. I understand what you say about the theory of Lucre. If the coin is being minted by the user, there is no way

[e-gold-list] Re: Why _anonymous_ digital bearer instruments? (was:Re: Let's talk MONEY!)

2003-03-05 Thread Arik Schenkler
Shalom, My questions: There are two digital bearer systems: 1. Lucre - where the issuer do not know the coin code. 2. I$ - where the issuer knows the coin code. Note: All the blinding in Lucrative is done client-side, the mint is agnostic if blinding is done. Are you sure? Can you

[e-gold-list] Re: Why _anonymous_ digital bearer instruments? (was: Re: Let's talk MONEY!)

2003-03-05 Thread Joris Bontje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 01:45:24PM +0200, Arik Schenkler wrote: Note: All the blinding in Lucrative is done client-side, the mint is agnostic if blinding is done. Are you sure? Can you describe, how you think it works. (don't send me to

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not

2002-10-23 Thread Fidex Marketing
I only faxed them a copy of my photo ID. I did not fax them the copy of a creditcard statement, nor the copy of a utility bill they asked for. So, next time you have trouble with Paypal, just say: fuck up, I don't want to be spied upon. I am going to close my account there anyway, so

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not

2002-10-22 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
Hi, Paypal just restricted my account, simply because I have travelled to a country they do not service (Bulgaria), and now they want me to explain what I am doing here and how long I will stay. Here is their email: Unfortunately, your account access limitation cannot be lifted at this time.

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-25 Thread Rachel Willmer
--On 20 September 2002 13:41 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That doesn't help the yanks out there, but any opportunity to stick it to the US I just can't turn down. Ah yes, seeing as the yanks invented digital gold :) oh ... and the internet. oh .. and computers. oh .. and electricty

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-25 Thread James M. Ray
Rachel Willmer wrote: ... come to think of it, didn't a German, Konrad Zuse, invent the first binary computer, the Z1, in Berlin in 1936... Perhaps, but a. We're drifting WAAAY off-topic here, and b. http://www.coe.unco.edu/DonnaFerguson/ETHistory/TESLA.HTM an excerpt: Inventors

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-25 Thread Rachel Willmer
--On 25 September 2002 06:41 -0400 James M. Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rachel Willmer wrote: ... come to think of it, didn't a German, Konrad Zuse, invent the first binary computer, the Z1, in Berlin in 1936... Perhaps, but a. We're drifting WAAAY off-topic here, aw, Jim, you're no

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-21 Thread itrustno1
telephone? it was meucci... http://www.garibaldimeuccimuseum.org/congress.html cars? I thought it was a German, Benz.. http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blcar.htm fax? Scottish... http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blfax.htm Funny, ages ago if you read a Russian encyclopedia

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-21 Thread Ian Green
At 11:09 AM 20/09/2002 -0700, Greg Broiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they all seem to want some variation of a wire transfer or a cash deposit, both of those requiring an in-person trip to a bank during banking hours, or the payment of significant fees someone like Western Union, again, during

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-21 Thread Patrik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and Jerry Springer ...and WNBA '' SNIIP--- mouse, -- Swedish inventor... and the telephone -- as i recall it a italian inventor... And to the most important thing .. who found america ...it think it was Leif erikson - a nordic VIKING..;)) -

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
At 08:41 AM 9/21/2002 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: telephone? it was meucci.. cars? I thought it was a German, Benz.. fax? Scottish... Or maybe you guys make confusion between 'inventing' and 'making/selling'?? Maybe you better stick to CocaCola, McDonald's etceheheeh That, and also

[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-21 Thread Cambist.net
-- From: Patrick Chkoreff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal? Date: Fri, Sep 20, 2002, 4:12 PM Patrick wrote: Let me pose a specific scenario. Imagine how cool it would be if I could tell an employer

[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
Patrick wrote: Let me pose a specific scenario. Imagine how cool it would be if I could tell an employer to direct-deposit my paycheck into a certain bank, and unbeknownst to my employer the funds would actually go to a market maker acting as a bank who would then dump gold into my

[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-21 Thread Colonel Bosco
That more then rocks, sounds like suicide to me since ACH transfers can be reversed 90 to 180 days after they complete. Have fun, I am sure the crooks using E-Gold will catch up with you soon.. MB John Kyle wrote: We basically do this right now. We have customers who have told their

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread George Matyjewicz
At 07:19 AM 9/20/2002 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's called viral marketing and E-gold does not work like this... If e-gold would work like this they would have been a lot bigger (And the person sending gold would have another progeny account) I find it facinating that nobody on

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread Lourens Human
Martjin, Ek reken dat jy moontelik kan vestaan wat ek skryf, dit is aangesien my taal sy oorsprong uit jou taal het. Wat die jou opmerking aanbetref - kyk uit vir iets soort gelyks wat eers daags gaan veskyn. Die idea staan op 'n rues van 'n berg en vra om raak gesien te word. En ek stem ek

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread Sidd
Lourens, Soos ek gese het, Pecunix gaan dit doen... en baie meer! Lekker naweek, groete, Sidd. - Original Message - From: Lourens Human [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Wat die jou opmerking aanbetref - kyk uit vir iets soort : gelyks wat eers daags gaan veskyn. Die idea staan op 'n : rues van

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread PowerClicks
Remember on thing when comparing paypal to e-gold: you can fund your PayPal account instantly using your credit card start sending money. This is not the case with e-gold, where you have to go through a third party to fund you account, waist a lot of time, and on top of this pay prohibitive fees

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread Paul Vahur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lourens, Sidd, Ek reken dat jy moontelik kan vestaan wat ek skryf, dit is aangesien my taal sy oorsprong uit jou taal het. iga loll oskab ennast hollandi keeles väljendada, aga kas sa ka maameeste jutust aru saad? Sorry for the harsh words,

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread Morgan Harry
Remember on thing when comparing paypal to e-gold: you can fund your PayPal account instantly using your credit card start sending money. This is not the case with e-gold, where you have to go through a third party to fund you account, waist a lot of time, and on top of this pay prohibitive

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread Greg Broiles
At 12:20 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, Morgan Harry wrote: [...] On the other hand, some exchange providers are able to fund an account in a matter of minutes, so a new account with e-gold can be funded and operated in a very short period of time. Please explain how to do this in a very short period of

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread jpm
I don't mean to say that the exchange providers are bad people, when they want known good funds coming in to exchange for their known good funds going out - I wouldn't want to be on the other end of a chargeback, having paid out irrevocably in the meantime - but I'm trying to figure out

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread John A. Buck
Please explain how to do this in a very short period of time; Explanation may be somewhat dated, but when I opened my egold account - I used goldfingercoin and was funded in less than a day. all seem to want some variation of a wire transfer or a cash deposit, both of those requiring an

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread jpm
That doesn't help the yanks out there, but any opportunity to stick it to the US I just can't turn down. Ah yes, seeing as the yanks invented digital gold :) oh ... and the internet. oh .. and computers. oh .. and electricty ;-) But yes, it's great sticking it to yanks! And Aussie does

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
JP wrote: Right, there will never be an easy way to 'change between' USD and egold. They are different currencies. there will never be an easy wayto change between USD and Euros or between USD and Canadian dollars. That's primarily because of the lack of a firm, reliable, non-repudiable,

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread uberhacker
Of course, BPay may not have the automation features you need for this, but it sounds like Bryan is suggesting that BPay is low risk for market makers. In other words, you could receive a BPayment and feel completely confident in spending gold in return, knowing that the payment was real

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread jpm
n other words, you could receive a BPayment .. http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html search on bpay Patrick :) (maybe its a 5 or a 6 rather than a 7) -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread uberhacker
Ah yes, seeing as the yanks invented digital gold :) oh ... and the internet. oh .. and computers. oh .. and electricty ...and Jerry Springer ...and WNBA Fortunately the US redeems itself by having a steady supply of southern women who love Australian accents. Oh, and HBO. Where

[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-20 Thread George Matyjewicz
At 03:49 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, Fred Michaelis wrote: Just one quick observation. In the USA, strangely enough, most people buy things using the US dollar. Why? Because a lot of sellers will accept it. So, it would follow, if sellers sold more things for the value of E-gold, it would not be a

[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-20 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
At 04:21 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, George Matyjewicz wrote: Me thinks we need something similar to check cashing services. I think you're onto something there, George. You have to be the bank, figuratively or maybe someday even literally. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to

[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-20 Thread jpm
Here's the thing you guys. There IS NO WAY, and there will never be a way, for it to be easy to convert from national currencies to GOLD (Here's why: http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html ) It will not, cannot and never will be easy. Let's say historically over the 20 years 2000-2020

[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-20 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
At 04:31 PM 9/20/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There IS NO WAY, and there will never be a way, for it to be easy to convert from national currencies to GOLD (Here's why: http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html ) It will not, cannot and never will be easy. I didn't say it would

[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-20 Thread Goldtoday
Patrick Chkoreff wrote: At 04:31 PM 9/20/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There IS NO WAY, and there will never be a way, for it to be easy to convert from national currencies to GOLD (Here's why: http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html ) It will not, cannot and never will

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread Morgan Harry
At 12:20 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, Morgan Harry wrote: .. so a new account with e-gold can be funded and operated in a very short period of time. Please explain how to do this in a very short period of time; I spent awhile staring at the web pages of exchange providers and they all seem to

[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-20 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
JP wrote: There IS NO WAY, and there will never be a way, for it to be easy to convert from national currencies to GOLD (Here's why: http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html ) It will not, cannot and never will be easy. Patrick wrote: I didn't say it would ever be easy. I'm just

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not..... foreign languages

2002-09-20 Thread Ragnar
Sidd, --- Sidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lourens, Soos ek gese het, Pecunix gaan dit doen... en baie meer! Lekker naweek, groete, Kliptik ogen din platuk omaturik. En biden oblapuk en meer? Kaput en gobledigook. = Regards, Ragnar CFO - http://www.gold-age.net Find a reputable

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread Greg Broiles
At 02:54 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, Morgan Harry wrote: At 12:20 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, Morgan Harry wrote: .. so a new account with e-gold can be funded and operated in a very short period of time. Please explain how to do this in a very short period of time[...] You seem to forget that

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread Cambist.net
-- From: John A. Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not. Date: Fri, Sep 20, 2002, 12:35 PM I would venture to say that a person could open and fund an E-Gold account in less than 48 hours without any

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not..... foreignlanguages

2002-09-20 Thread Goldtoday
gobledigook. is right. I recommend english. If you want to talk dutch, afrikaans, spanish, french, et all personal emails are better and don't confuse others. We mainly talk english, US and Aussie on this list and that can cause enough confusion. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A

[e-gold-list] Re: why paypal wins and e-gold not.....

2002-09-20 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
A customer can buy money orders and send it to us overnight mail and get funding of their gold account. That is less than 48 hours. - John Kyle Yep. Just 89 cents at Publix supermarkets. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a

[e-gold-list] Re: Why don't we tell our friends and hope they get the hint, and then pass it on?

2002-09-18 Thread Sidd
: We will only accept E-gold as currency. I : believe that it is up to us. Fred, I am interested to know why you only trust e-gold? Surely e-bullion and GoldMoney have some merit? Sidd. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to

[e-gold-list] Re: Why can't e-gold supplant Western Union?

2001-08-28 Thread Dmitry Salnikov
Hello All, Something like the scenario below does exist in Russia and other Russian speaking countries with WebMoney Internet currency. Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:02:52 -0400 Subject: [e-gold-list] Why can't e-gold supplant Western Union? From: Chris Lord-Van Voorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] I

[e-gold-list] Re: Why is nobody selling small quantities?

2001-04-07 Thread shupperd1
fastgold.net has no minimum, however we will certainly not deal with paypal. Having been stung for over 7k from that shonky outfit. Shonky is Grahams word :-) James Money to Gold, and Gold to Money, Pays Referral Comissions Directly to Your eGold account. the FASTEST funding on the net.

[e-gold-list] Re: Why is nobody selling small quantities?

2001-04-07 Thread Mariman Center
JM All of the $$$ to e-gold conversion people seem to have a minimum JM purchase. Why so? What makes it uneconomic to sell tiny spends via JM PayPal or Amazon.com honor system or some such? Paypal is a scam ! About $500 of our money that they are still keeping since +4 months. MC -- Mariman

[e-gold-list] Re: Why is nobody selling small quantities?

2001-04-07 Thread Vince Callaway
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Julian Morrison wrote: All of the $$$ to e-gold conversion people seem to have a minimum purchase. Why so? What makes it uneconomic to sell tiny spends via PayPal or Amazon.com honor system or some such? Other than the fraud issue is labor. While paypal offers a purchase

[e-gold-list] Re: Why has Denmark quit EURO's?

2001-02-10 Thread Mark S. Ohberg
CCS wrote: But there were a few serious misconceptions. The worst of these was the idea that a fiat currency by virtue of being imposed over a larger area is somehow an improvement. Another is that the EU has anything to do with free trade: rather it is regulation (ie unfreedom) of trade

[e-gold-list] RE: why?

2000-12-18 Thread Eric Gaither, Gaithman's E-Gold Exchange
: Re: [e-gold-list] RE: why? Eric Gaither, Gaithman's E-Gold Exchange wrote: big snip "Of course, that is just my opinion, folks, I could be wrong! I want to know what you think America..."---Dennis Miller Just a few thoughts. Eric Well put Eric. &qu

[e-gold-list] RE: why?

2000-12-18 Thread Dagny Taggart
Thank you for this prompt explanation. It is not very clear to me though why Goldtoday would be taken off the list of market makers, since he seemed to be the scapegoat for e-gold and the banks? So e-gold is behaving just like the banks? What incentive do I have now to switch from the banking

[e-gold-list] RE: why?

2000-12-18 Thread markab23
Well I think he was just caught in the middle. Being a small business person he was easier to clobber by the 'big boys' than the criminals who are a bit harder to find. I am happy with his service anyway. he still looks after me very well. Chuck = Original Message From Dagny Taggart

[e-gold-list] RE: why?

2000-12-17 Thread Craig Haynie
a) the funds were 'frozen' so not lost, b)Authorities were notified so the criminals could be apprehended. so your 'guess' is as good as mine. Being just a small business person in another country confronting a large multimillion dollar company in the US on one side and 2 multinational

[e-gold-list] RE: why? ~e-gold/GSR

2000-12-17 Thread Khurram Khan
Craig Haynie wrote: GSR has positioned themselves so that they do not act as judge and jury on accusations of fraud and the gold sitting in the questionable account does NOT belong to GSR. They're out. I must disagree with your Craig, GSR does act as judge, jury, and executioner about

[e-gold-list] RE: why?

2000-12-17 Thread Eric Gaither, Gaithman's E-Gold Exchange
he RIGHTFUL owner. "Of course, that is just my opinion, folks, I could be wrong! I want to know what you think America..."---Dennis Miller Just a few thoughts. Eric - Original Message - From: Craig Haynie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

[e-gold-list] RE: why?

2000-12-17 Thread Mike Poulos
- From: "Eric Gaither, Gaithman's E-Gold Exchange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 12:18 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] RE: why? Craig and Everyone, GSR has positioned themselves so that they do not a

[e-gold-list] RE: why?

2000-12-17 Thread vikingcoder
One point that I would like to make is that it was GSR that got these Market Makers started. Why??? I have asked myself this as they are losing a lot of money, therfore allowing someone like you and Michael to cash in. Why did they really do this? One reason may just be because of what has

[e-gold-list] RE: why?

2000-12-16 Thread markab23
I can answer that for you. Michael Moore, who runs the gold-today site was hit my two crimminals who placed orders using counterfeit cheques not long ago. Those cheques (a couple of hundred dollars AUS) were sent direct to the gold-today banks and then subsequently passed to e-gold and to

[e-gold-list] Re: why?

2000-12-15 Thread Michael Moore
Hello Danny, Well I see that one of my customers has answered the question for you. What can I say!! Thanks Chuck, although I did not want to make that information public particularly I really appreciate your kind words and vote of confidence. Danny, What Chuck has said is essentially

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