Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat Working Group

2023-02-18 Thread gene heskett
On 2/18/23 19:28, Rod Webster wrote: Progress has been slow with the kernel stuff. I was able to build a non PREEMPT_RT image for the Odroid N2++ and get it to boot yesterday. Initially you need to boot from petitboot which sits on flash storage. Step 2, adding the PREEMPT_RT patches failed

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat Working Group

2023-02-18 Thread Rod Webster
Progress has been slow with the kernel stuff. I was able to build a non PREEMPT_RT image for the Odroid N2++ and get it to boot yesterday. Initially you need to boot from petitboot which sits on flash storage. Step 2, adding the PREEMPT_RT patches failed after that. It seems the armbian kernel

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat Working Group

2023-02-18 Thread gene heskett
On 2/18/23 11:31, Small Shop Concepts wrote: That sounds awesome Rod! I am interested in your Xenomai 4 test results. On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 3:53 AM Rod Webster wrote: I was lucky enough to attend an Ethercat working group seminar today in Brisbane, Australia where German based Martin

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat Working Group

2023-02-18 Thread Small Shop Concepts
That sounds awesome Rod! I am interested in your Xenomai 4 test results. On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 3:53 AM Rod Webster wrote: > > I was lucky enough to attend an Ethercat working group seminar today in > Brisbane, Australia where German based Martin Rostan, Executive Director > from the EtherCAT

[Emc-developers] Ethercat Working Group

2023-02-10 Thread Rod Webster
I was lucky enough to attend an Ethercat working group seminar today in Brisbane, Australia where German based Martin Rostan, Executive Director from the EtherCAT Technology Group (ETG) was the main presenter. It was all very interesting and the detailed low level description of ethercat packets

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-17 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Hi, Le jeu. 17 mars 2022 à 18:13, Joseph Spanier a écrit : > Hey Guys, > I am close to Tormach and actively working with them on their ROS driven > robot. Great! They also use machinekit-hal for it, right? If someone can concisely frame the situation and detail what you > need I'd be happy

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-17 Thread Joseph Spanier
Hey Guys, I am close to Tormach and actively working with them on their ROS driven robot. If someone can concisely frame the situation and detail what you need I'd be happy to make an intro with Rogge. I tried to find a clear thread of this discussion on sourceforge that I could just forward to

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le ven. 4 mars 2022 à 02:13, Rod Webster a écrit : > > Anyone close to ROS? > Tormach. Anyone close to Tormach? > Maybe open a friendly issue/discussion there https://github.com/tormach/hal_ros_control ___ Emc-developers mailing list

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 3 March 2022 19:55:07 EST Rod Webster wrote: > >Some of us remember when the EMC corporation sent their lawyers > >calling because we had a similar name to them. No matter that we had > >it first. > I'm one of them. And I was pissed at the audacity of a bookkeeper who was a johnny

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Stefan Asmus
: Rod Webster Sent: Friday, 4 March 2022 12:11 PM To: EMC developers Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian! > Anyone close to ROS? Tormach. Anyone close to Tormach? Rod Webster *1300 896 832*

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Rod Webster
> >> > >> yes, something like http://wiki.ros.org/soem ? I have not followed that > >> up. > >> > >> Best, > >> Steffen > >> > >> On 03.03.22 16:54, Marc Wang wrote: > >>> Hi Steffen, > >>> > >>> By ROS, are you referring

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Steffen Möller
, By ROS, are you referring to Robotic Operating System ( https://www.ros.org/)? Regards, Marc From: andy pugh Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2022 10:49 AM To: EMC developers Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Rod Webster
>Some of us remember when the EMC corporation sent their lawyers >calling because we had a similar name to them. No matter that we had >it first. Before my time. There are plenty of examples where the user of an untrademarked name has had to cease and desist after another organization trademarks

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 16:17, gene heskett wrote: > I don't see the future risk as zero... Some of us remember when the EMC corporation sent their lawyers calling because we had a similar name to them. No matter that we had it first. Beckhof have been very clear that they own the word EtherCAT,

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le jeu. 3 mars 2022 à 16:14, Steffen Möller a écrit : > Dear all, > > I had a phone conversation with the EtherCAT Technology Group's > president, Martin Rostan, this morning. Thanks a lot for taking care of this  ETG's statutes (Satzung in German) do not allow non-legal entities to >

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Rod Webster
otic Operating System ( > https://www.ros.org/)? > > > > > > Regards, > > Marc > > > > > > From: andy pugh > > Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2022 10:49 AM > > To: EMC developers > > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers]

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Steffen Möller
Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2022 10:49 AM To: EMC developers Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian! On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 15:14, Steffen Möller wrote: But he took the freedom to point out

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 3 March 2022 10:49:53 EST andy pugh wrote: > On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 15:14, Steffen Möller wrote: > > But he took the freedom to point out that there are others who > > are already shipping EtherCAT drivers and have not experienced any > > legal problem at all - he just cannot make

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Marc Wang
Hi Steffen, By ROS, are you referring to Robotic Operating System (https://www.ros.org/)? Regards, Marc From: andy pugh Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2022 10:49 AM To: EMC developers Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 15:14, Steffen Möller wrote: > But he took the freedom to point out that there are others who > are already shipping EtherCAT drivers and have not experienced any legal > problem at all - he just cannot make any promises of any sorts about the > future There is quite a gap

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Steffen Möller
Dear all, I had a phone conversation with the EtherCAT Technology Group's president, Martin Rostan, this morning. To get an impression, you find him in this PodCast https://www.sps-magazin.de/podcasts/ (German). Mr Rostan sends his regards, expresses that he has a heart for all the mills and

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-02 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2022-03-02 kl. 20:56, skrev Nicklas SB Karlsson: Den 2022-03-01 kl. 22:06, skrev Jérémie Tarot: Le mar. 1 mars 2022 à 21:40, Bari a écrit : https://github.com/OpenEtherCATsociety/SOEM/blob/master/LICENSE I don't understand how the last sentences could be compatible with GPL? lhH

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-02 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2022-03-01 kl. 22:06, skrev Jérémie Tarot: Le mar. 1 mars 2022 à 21:40, Bari a écrit : https://github.com/OpenEtherCATsociety/SOEM/blob/master/LICENSE I don't understand how the last sentences could be compatible with GPL? lhH EtherCat https://etherlab.org/en/ethercat/ I think is

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-02 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2022-03-01 kl. 23:35, skrev Rod Webster: The reason why I put this on the agenda is that I observed that the debian project uncovered a number of licenses which we had to include in our copyright statement that deviated from the standard GPL licence. I was quite surprised at this. I would

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT support

2022-03-02 Thread Steffen Möller
On 02.03.22 15:10, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 11:31, Arvid Brodin wrote: For full out-of-the-box EtherCAT support this package must be included in whichever distro(s) we use. I have no idea if this is possible This is currently fairly easy, as we run our own package server,

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT support

2022-03-02 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 11:31, Arvid Brodin wrote: > For full out-of-the-box EtherCAT support this package must be included in > whichever distro(s) we use. I have no idea if this is possible This is currently fairly easy, as we run our own package server, and are already distributing debs for

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT support

2022-03-02 Thread Arvid Brodin
On 2022-03-01 18:14, andy pugh wrote: I am generally in favour of anything that makes LinuxCNC easier to use and more broadly applicable. So, I support bundling-in EtherCAT support, as long as we can be sure that nobody will be pointing their lawyers in our direction. However, one worry that we

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Steffen Möller
On 01.03.22 23:35, Rod Webster wrote: The reason why I put this on the agenda is that I observed that the debian project uncovered a number of licenses which we had to include in our copyright statement that deviated from the standard GPL licence. I was quite surprised at this. I would defer

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 4:20:42 PM EST Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > Den 2022-03-01 kl. 21:39, skrev Bari: > > On 3/1/22 14:25, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > >> Den 2022-03-01 kl. 21:17, skrev Bari: > >>> On 3/1/22 13:20, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > Already have a simple implementation of an

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Rod Webster
The reason why I put this on the agenda is that I observed that the debian project uncovered a number of licenses which we had to include in our copyright statement that deviated from the standard GPL licence. I was quite surprised at this. I would defer to Steffen on license issues and

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le mar. 1 mars 2022 à 22:22, Nicklas SB Karlsson a écrit : > > > > > https://github.com/OpenEtherCATsociety/SOEM/blob/master/LICENSE > > > Line below seems like a problem. > Exactly ___ Emc-developers mailing list

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2022-03-01 kl. 21:39, skrev Bari: On 3/1/22 14:25, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Den 2022-03-01 kl. 21:17, skrev Bari: On 3/1/22 13:20, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Already have a simple implementation of an Ethercat driver with hardcoded configuration but read something about the license

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le mar. 1 mars 2022 à 21:40, Bari a écrit : > > > https://github.com/OpenEtherCATsociety/SOEM/blob/master/LICENSE I don't understand how the last sentences could be compatible with GPL? > ___ Emc-developers mailing list

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Bari
On 3/1/22 14:25, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Den 2022-03-01 kl. 21:17, skrev Bari: On 3/1/22 13:20, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Already have a simple implementation of an Ethercat driver with hardcoded configuration but read something about the license problem and have kept it for myself.

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2022-03-01 kl. 21:17, skrev Bari: On 3/1/22 13:20, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Already have a simple implementation of an Ethercat driver with hardcoded configuration but read something about the license problem and have kept it for myself. If you developed this yourself without being

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Bari
On 3/1/22 13:20, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Already have a simple implementation of an Ethercat driver with hardcoded configuration but read something about the license problem and have kept it for myself. If you developed this yourself without being under an NDA or some contract with

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Steffen Möller
On 01.03.22 20:15, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Den 2022-03-01 kl. 13:27, skrev Rod Webster: So I shared Steffen's post on the Ethercat section of the forum calling for technical volunteers. Maybe some of them are in this group already.

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2022-02-28 kl. 15:47, skrev Steffen Möller: Hello again, On 28.02.22 14:28, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 at 13:22, Steffen Möller wrote: Personally I know nothing about EtherCAT. I have always been a little afraid of the licensing complexities mentioned here:

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2022-03-01 kl. 13:27, skrev Rod Webster: So I shared Steffen's post on the Ethercat section of the forum calling for technical volunteers. Maybe some of them are in this group already.

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Rod Webster
So I shared Steffen's post on the Ethercat section of the forum calling for technical volunteers. Maybe some of them are in this group already. https://forum.linuxcnc.org/ethercat/45239-lets-get-ethercat-into-the-linuxcnc-distribution-need-technical-people-to-help Lets hope the right people come

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-02-28 Thread Rod Webster
One could argue we are already in breach of their license by mentioning Ethercat in our Debian package :) There is no point suggesting something without being willing to contribute. Therefore I am happy to be an admin contact using the email ether...@vmn.com.au There are others who are more

[Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-02-28 Thread Steffen Möller
Hello again, On 28.02.22 14:28, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 at 13:22, Steffen Möller wrote: Personally I know nothing about EtherCAT. I have always been a little afraid of the licensing complexities mentioned here: https://etherlab.org/en/ethercat/ Etherlab itself is GPLv2, but

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT modules help needed --> some kind of write access

2021-07-16 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
> That's interesting, Nicklas! > > I never met SOEM before the same for lcec before I started this integration. > I understand that those technologies are completely different > implementations, aren't they? > > Was it hard to develop your solution? Where did you start, what was needed? > >

[Emc-developers] EtherCAT modules help needed

2021-07-12 Thread Marius Alksnys
Could someone help me develop a lcec (LinuxCnc EtherCat) driver for two modules: 1. Beckhoff 1-channel SinCos encoder interface - EL5021 (1Vpp), ES5021 (11uApp) https://www.beckhoff.com/en-en/products/i-o/ethercat-terminals/el5xxx-position-measurement/el5021.html 2. NCT Dual encoder input and

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT, read esi *.xml file

2019-03-27 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
Parsing of ESI files, *.xml files would probably be A good idea. I ran hardcoded now and at a first glance it seems source code below also do this. I have seen siitool parse xml file and it would probably not be to hard to reuse code from this tool. As position out and encoder in plus a few

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT

2019-03-26 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 27 Mar 2019, Chris Morley wrote: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 00:59:18 + From: Chris Morley Reply-To: EMC developers To: EMC developers Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT I think adding docs would be a fine idea. Chris M Docs and perhaps some sample hal/ini files

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT

2019-03-26 Thread Chris Morley
I think adding docs would be a fine idea. Chris M From: andy pugh Sent: March 25, 2019 1:56 PM To: EMC developers Subject: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT Whilst I think we have decided that it is not possible to distribute an EtherCAT driver with LinuxCNC[1

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT

2019-03-25 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:56:48 + andy pugh wrote: > Whilst I think we have decided that it is not possible to distribute > an EtherCAT driver with LinuxCNC[1] it seems that some users are using > it extensively and successfully. > > Which leads me to wonder if we should include a section in

[Emc-developers] EtherCAT

2019-03-25 Thread andy pugh
Whilst I think we have decided that it is not possible to distribute an EtherCAT driver with LinuxCNC[1] it seems that some users are using it extensively and successfully. Which leads me to wonder if we should include a section in the documentation about its use and where to download the

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver --> LAN9252 6 bytes in 200µs

2018-03-10 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 13:53:29 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 10 March 2018 12:42:56 Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > > I just discovered it take about 200µs to write six bytes of process > > data in process RAM via SPI into the LAN9252 chip! It's horrible slow. > > I

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver --> LAN9252 6 bytes in 200µs

2018-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 10 March 2018 12:42:56 Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > I just discovered it take about 200µs to write six bytes of process > data in process RAM via SPI into the LAN9252 chip! It's horrible slow. > I can't figure out they think about then they make SPI protocol like > this. > > Write

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver --> LAN9252 6 bytes in 200µs

2018-03-10 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
I just discovered it take about 200µs to write six bytes of process data in process RAM via SPI into the LAN9252 chip! It's horrible slow. I can't figure out they think about then they make SPI protocol like this. Write adresse(s) and read/write as many bytes as needed had been the most

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-03-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 March 2018 at 12:06, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > Smart serial is UART? It is serial. I don't know if it uses a UART. It is not the same as the Mesa UART Hostmot2 module. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-03-05 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
Smart serial is UART? 2018-01-18 9:40 GMT+01:00 andy pugh : > On 17 January 2018 at 23:41, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > I think this might be right up PCW's alley. He is already selling some > > cards that expand via an rj45 jack. > > > There is already

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-03-04 Thread andy pugh
On 2 March 2018 at 13:07, Kenneth Lerman wrote: > Change the species. > > etherCAT becomes etherDOG ÆtherCAT (May need Unicode) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-03-03 Thread Kenneth Lerman
Change the species. etherCAT becomes etherDOG Ken Kenneth Lerman 55 Main Street Newtown, CT 06470 On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Nicklas Karlsson < nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 08:17:52 -0500 > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 23

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-03-03 Thread John Morris
On 01/16/2018 07:51 PM, Jeff Epler wrote: Our policy is that any code added to LinuxCNC has to be compatible with the license terms "GPL version 2 or any later version". https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses Anything that imposes a restriction on how the

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-02-21 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 08:17:52 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 23 January 2018 08:01:01 andy pugh wrote: > > > On 23 January 2018 at 03:26, Rod Webster > wrote: > > > This link seems to confirm the Etherlab invocation is GPLv2 so you > > >

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-02-05 Thread Jeff Epler
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 08:29:53PM +0100, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > https://openethercatsociety.github.io/doc/soem/index.html > ... > Features as of 1.2.0 : > Changed license to GPLv2 only. Adresses leagal concerns about master > licensing. > ... > > So I guess it is OK. > On this date,

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-02-04 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
https://openethercatsociety.github.io/doc/soem/index.html ... Features as of 1.2.0 : Changed license to GPLv2 only. Adresses leagal concerns about master licensing. ... So I guess it is OK. On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:27:25 -0500 Dave Cole wrote: > The text below is

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-23 Thread Rod Webster
If all that Linuxcnc does is talk to the GPL'ed EtherLab library, how is it then you need to worry about trademarks and the like? Isn't that an issue for the EtherLab team? The LinuxCNC team has nothing to do with licensed material. The onus is on the integrator to comply with any requirements

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-23 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> On 13 January 2018 at 15:06, Nicklas Karlsson > wrote: > > > > > I checked out via git, how do I procede if I want to commit via git? > > > You would push it to your own repository on github, then press the I make my own repository, it's not enought with a

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-23 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> On Tuesday 23 January 2018 08:01:01 andy pugh wrote: > > > On 23 January 2018 at 03:26, Rod Webster > wrote: > > > This link seems to confirm the Etherlab invocation is GPLv2 so you > > > may be right! > > > https://etherlab.org/en/ethercat/index.php > > > > Etherlab

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-23 Thread Dave Cole
On 1/23/2018 8:01 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 23 January 2018 at 03:26, Rod Webster wrote: This link seems to confirm the Etherlab invocation is GPLv2 so you may be right! https://etherlab.org/en/ethercat/index.php Etherlab and SOEM are both GPL (or want to be) The

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 23 January 2018 08:01:01 andy pugh wrote: > On 23 January 2018 at 03:26, Rod Webster wrote: > > This link seems to confirm the Etherlab invocation is GPLv2 so you > > may be right! > > https://etherlab.org/en/ethercat/index.php > > Etherlab and SOEM are both

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 January 2018 at 03:26, Rod Webster wrote: > This link seems to confirm the Etherlab invocation is GPLv2 so you may be > right! > https://etherlab.org/en/ethercat/index.php Etherlab and SOEM are both GPL (or want to be) The problem is with Beckhoff who own the

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-22 Thread Rod Webster
This link seems to confirm the Etherlab invocation is GPLv2 so you may be right! https://etherlab.org/en/ethercat/index.php Rod Webster +61 435 765 611 Vehicle Modifications Network www.vehiclemods.net.au On 23 January 2018 at 11:06, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 22

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 January 2018 15:14:34 Rod Webster wrote: > Hi, > > Its been a long time but many years ago when working with Ghostscript > and commercial interfaces to it. The solution was (under their > license) to build an interface to the external library in such a way > if the external

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-22 Thread Rod Webster
Hi, Its been a long time but many years ago when working with Ghostscript and commercial interfaces to it. The solution was (under their license) to build an interface to the external library in such a way if the external library/DLL wasn't there the software did not fail and if another library

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 08:38:43 +1300 Darren Conway wrote: > Hi > > Has anyone considered asking Bekhoff for their view on this issue? As is now I use LAN9252, maybe that will not get them in the right mood. Anybody with an Beckhoff device?

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-22 Thread Darren Conway
Hi Has anyone considered asking Bekhoff for their view on this issue? They might grant a GPL compatible license for LinuxCNC. Regards Darren Conway On 23.01.18 8:27 AM, Andy Pugh wrote: On 22 Jan 2018, at 21:08, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: In source code I got

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 21:27:50 +0200 Andy Pugh wrote: > > > > On 22 Jan 2018, at 21:08, Nicklas Karlsson > > wrote: > > > > In source code I got from soem there is GNU license but somewhere I also > > found an exception, below so I am a

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-22 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 22 Jan 2018, at 21:08, Nicklas Karlsson > wrote: > > In source code I got from soem there is GNU license but somewhere I also > found an exception, below so I am a little bit confused. I have always been confused by this too. The worry is that if we

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 17:32:58 +0200 andy pugh wrote: > On 13 January 2018 at 15:06, Nicklas Karlsson > wrote: > > > > > I checked out via git, how do I procede if I want to commit via git? > > > You would push it to your own repository on

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-18 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:56:21 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 17 January 2018 17:20:47 Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:41:59 -0500 > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Wednesday 17 January 2018 11:10:53 Nicklas Karlsson

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 January 2018 03:40:56 andy pugh wrote: > On 17 January 2018 at 23:41, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I think this might be right up PCW's alley. He is already selling > > some cards that expand via an rj45 jack. > > There is already at least one non-Mesa servo-drive

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-18 Thread andy pugh
On 17 January 2018 at 23:41, Gene Heskett wrote: > I think this might be right up PCW's alley. He is already selling some > cards that expand via an rj45 jack. There is already at least one non-Mesa servo-drive that is controllable via the Mesa "Smart Serial" interface.

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 17 January 2018 17:20:47 Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:41:59 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 17 January 2018 11:10:53 Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:27:25 -0500 > > > > > > Dave Cole

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-17 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:41:59 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 17 January 2018 11:10:53 Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:27:25 -0500 > > > > Dave Cole wrote: > > > The text below is at the end of the SOEM page from the

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 17 January 2018 11:10:53 Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:27:25 -0500 > > Dave Cole wrote: > > The text below is at the end of the SOEM page from the link below. > > https://openethercatsociety.github.io/doc/soem/index.html > > > > So how

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-17 Thread Dave Cole
Why a license? I have no idea. It sounds like they want you to ask permission. However I am quite sure the software will work without permission being granted. So what's the point? And if you obtained a license, what exactly do you do with it? Print it out and paste it on the wall? Put in in

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-17 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:27:25 -0500 Dave Cole wrote: > The text below is at the end of the SOEM page from the link below. > https://openethercatsociety.github.io/doc/soem/index.html > > So how does this work??   The SOEM software itself is GPL, but if you > implement an

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 17 January 2018 09:27:25 Dave Cole wrote: > The text below is at the end of the SOEM page from the link below. > https://openethercatsociety.github.io/doc/soem/index.html > > So how does this work??   The SOEM software itself is GPL, but if you > implement an Ethercat master, you

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-17 Thread Dave Cole
The text below is at the end of the SOEM page from the link below. https://openethercatsociety.github.io/doc/soem/index.html So how does this work??   The SOEM software itself is GPL, but if you implement an Ethercat master, you need to get a license ?? That's an interesting approach. If the

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-16 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
I will look into this. 2018-01-17 2:51 GMT+01:00 Jeff Epler : > Our policy is that any code added to LinuxCNC has to be compatible with > the license terms "GPL version 2 or any later version". > https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses > >

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-16 Thread Jeff Epler
Our policy is that any code added to LinuxCNC has to be compatible with the license terms "GPL version 2 or any later version". https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses Anything that imposes a restriction on how the software can be used (for example, if it is claimed

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 January 2018 at 18:52, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:ause of lack of official company home page. > > > Software is basically "soem" https://openethercatsociety. > github.io/doc/soem/index.html > I would very much like to see EtherCAT supported by LinuxCNC, but this

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-16 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> On 13 January 2018 at 15:06, Nicklas Karlsson > wrote: > > > > > I checked out via git, how do I procede if I want to commit via git? > > > You would push it to your own repository on github, then press the > pull-request button on the LinuxCNC github. > >

Re: [Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-16 Thread andy pugh
On 13 January 2018 at 15:06, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > I checked out via git, how do I procede if I want to commit via git? You would push it to your own repository on github, then press the pull-request button on the LinuxCNC github. Though there are other

[Emc-developers] Ethercat driver

2018-01-13 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
I made an Ethercat driver using a soem and it is in working condition although with hardcoded configuration. I intend to continue development but will probably spend a few days on slave nodes first. I checked out via git, how do I procede if I want to commit via git? There som extra files in

[Emc-developers] EtherCat / Analogue command combo

2016-09-23 Thread petr ruzicka
Good Day It's nice to be back in the forum and see that people are still hammering out the bugs.. Here is a tricky one.. Is it possible to have Ethercat control for axis (3-5axis ) and old tyle +-10VDC for the spindle? I'm asking because made a bubu and ordered ethercat servopacks , however

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT

2013-10-25 Thread Jan de Kruyf
So perhaps this is the right time for the ultimate solution: --lets stop lusting after the idols of Beckhoff.-- I have and I burned badly. Lots of good productive time down the drain, because I liked the IgH stack so much. And of course I still respect that piece of software. But in my

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT

2013-10-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 October 2013 12:51:37 Jan de Kruyf did opine: So perhaps this is the right time for the ultimate solution: --lets stop lusting after the idols of Beckhoff.-- I have and I burned badly. Lots of good productive time down the drain, because I liked the IgH stack so much. And of

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT

2013-10-25 Thread Jan de Kruyf
Perhaps you have to register for those screens Gene, I forget, it is a while ago I went through it. There are lots of pdf's available also. The software stack comes from here: http://www.systec-electronic.com/html/index.pl/en_download_OpenPOWERLINK it is not as nice as IgH, bu it is manageable.

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT

2013-10-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 October 2013 02:38, Yishin Li y...@araisrobo.com wrote: The license stated from IgH EtherCAT Master for Linux : All the source code available through IgH is licensed under the GPLv2 license. http://www.etherlab.org/en/ethercat/index.php The Etherlab EtherCAT Master does appear to be a

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT

2013-10-24 Thread Dave Cole
And the whole licensing thing irritates me. I agree.. I find it as appealing as filling out tax forms. Dave On 10/24/2013 5:05 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 24 October 2013 02:38, Yishin Li y...@araisrobo.com wrote: The license stated from IgH EtherCAT Master for Linux : All the source code

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT

2013-10-24 Thread Jeff Epler
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 09:38:12AM +0800, Yishin Li wrote: The license stated from IgH EtherCAT Master for Linux : All the source code available through IgH is licensed under the GPLv2 license. http://www.etherlab.org/en/ethercat/index.php Read on to the paragraph just below, which reads The

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT

2013-10-24 Thread John Morris
I've pasted Gerd Hoppe's reply to my inquiry below Sadly, Gerd makes it quite clear that one needs a technology license from Beckhoff to distribute an EtherCAT 'device', including a master software stack, and that it is required to 'maintain compatibility' and, as a special restriction in the

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT

2013-10-24 Thread John Morris
On 10/24/2013 02:06 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 24 October 2013 19:55, John Morris j...@zultron.com wrote: I believe that these restrictions mean that neither the LinuxCNC project nor anyone else may distribute EtherCAT drivers in source code form or otherwise, since with EtherCAT drivers, the

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT

2013-10-24 Thread EBo
On Oct 24 2013 2:23 PM, John Morris wrote: On 10/24/2013 02:06 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 24 October 2013 19:55, John Morris j...@zultron.com wrote: I believe that these restrictions mean that neither the LinuxCNC project nor anyone else may distribute EtherCAT drivers in source code form or

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