Re: [Emc-users] tool table entry Q, 3 of them in fact.

2022-06-29 Thread gene heskett
On 6/29/22 17:06, andy pugh wrote: On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 at 13:00, gene heskett wrote: The tool table is essentially empty on this xyzb mill, but if I had an entry that adequately describes a .0625" (1.58 mm) ball nose 4 flute mill, with a .250" LOC, (6.36 mm) including the fact that its a BN, w

Re: [Emc-users] tool table entry Q, 3 of them in fact.

2022-06-29 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 at 13:00, gene heskett wrote: > The tool table is essentially empty on this xyzb mill, but if I had an entry > that adequately describes a .0625" (1.58 mm) ball nose 4 flute mill, with > a .250" LOC, (6.36 mm) including the fact that its a BN, what would the > table entry look

[Emc-users] tool table entry Q, 3 of them in fact.

2022-06-25 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; The tool table is essentially empty on this xyzb mill, but if I had an entry that adequately describes a .0625" (1.58 mm) ball nose 4 flute mill, with a .250" LOC, (6.36 mm) including the fact that its a BN, what would the table entry look like for G21 metric mode? Background: I h

[Emc-users] Tool Table. Was:Interesting GUI

2021-01-03 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 10:47, Jérémie Tarot wrote: > > Have a look at work done lately on tool table improvements in QtPyVCP, you > may find what you need about custom fields Can you explain what is happening there? I haven't been keeping up. But I would say that tool table improvements probabl

[Emc-users] Tool table, probably for the 10,000th time

2016-03-08 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; This code to carve the clearances for the lid stay hinge when its installed on a 1.5" wide strip of Mahogany that must so wide so it can hang out on the inside edge, with a 11/32 wide groove 1/4" deep to retain the top end of the cedar plank lining, is a 3 stage & 3 tool routine, an

[Emc-users] Tool table, probably for the 10,000th time

2016-03-08 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; This is a repeat, because the original was sent at 20:32 my time yesterday, and at 02:22 my time this morning, nearly 6 hours elapsed time, the message has not come back. I am on several other lists that sourceforge hosts and none of them are apparently of any priority to sourcefor

[Emc-users] Tool table, probably for the 10,000th time

2016-03-08 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; 3rd send, 03:21 AM & still no return from sourceforge. Gr. Seriously, we need a mail list server that works. However, to simplicate the issue, I just now found John Thorntons truely excellent description under the wiki entry starting with "Tool Touch Off", which extends to 2 w

Re: [Emc-users] "Tool Table" Option Not Present in Touch Off Dialog Using Axis

2015-06-06 Thread Matt Shaver
On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 07:11:35 -0700 "jrmitchellj ." wrote: > Sorry, that is MD I command. > You should see the tool number at the bottom of the axis screen. > > If there is no tool number listed there, you dont you don't get the > "tool table" option in the touch off screen. Ok, I think I underst

Re: [Emc-users] "Tool Table" Option Not Present in Touch Off Dialog Using Axis

2015-06-06 Thread jrmitchellj .
Sorry, that is MD I command. You should see the tool number at the bottom of the axis screen. If there is no tool number listed there, you dont you don't get the "tool table" option in the touch off screen. On Jun 6, 2015 7:07 AM, "jrmitchellj ." wrote: > You have to installed a tool in the mach

Re: [Emc-users] "Tool Table" Option Not Present in Touch Off Dialog Using Axis

2015-06-06 Thread jrmitchellj .
You have to installed a tool in the machine using the "T#M6" in mid so LCNC knows what tool it has to work on. Ray On Jun 6, 2015 7:02 AM, "andy pugh" wrote: > On 6 June 2015 at 14:12, Matt Shaver wrote: > > It's been a long time since I worked with this... What has to be > > declared in the .i

Re: [Emc-users] "Tool Table" Option Not Present in Touch Off Dialog Using Axis

2015-06-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 June 2015 at 14:12, Matt Shaver wrote: > It's been a long time since I worked with this... What has to be > declared in the .ini or .hal files to inform Axis that there should be > a "Tool Table" option in the touch off dialog? It is either a "T" at the end of the coordinate system list, or

[Emc-users] "Tool Table" Option Not Present in Touch Off Dialog Using Axis

2015-06-06 Thread Matt Shaver
It's been a long time since I worked with this... What has to be declared in the .ini or .hal files to inform Axis that there should be a "Tool Table" option in the touch off dialog? Thanks, Matt -- __

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-28 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 5/28/2015 6:26 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > I dont know how to touch off into T. I always put the tool to the job > and set Z=0. My understanding is that the tool table must take care of > the rest. So once I have loaded all the tools in the table and touch > them off to the reference of the

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-28 Thread Marius Liebenberg
>On 28 May 2015 at 13:26, Marius Liebenberg >wrote: > >> Should I use any other than Tx M6 with G43 already active in the >>setup >> code? > >Yes. G43 is not modal. You need to G43 after every tool change. Ah that might be the problem. > >(Actually, it is possible to configure for "sticky"

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 May 2015 at 13:26, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > Should I use any other than Tx M6 with G43 already active in the setup > code? Yes. G43 is not modal. You need to G43 after every tool change. (Actually, it is possible to configure for "sticky" G43, but I think that was an experimental additi

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-28 Thread Marius Liebenberg
>On 28 May 2015 at 11:08, Marius Liebenberg >wrote: >> what happens >> if I have to change tool 1 and the offsets for the new tool changes. >> Does the rest of the tools in the table adjust automatically or must >>I >> redo all the tools in the table gain? > >If you change Tool 1 then you c

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-28 Thread Rick Lair
On 5/28/2015 8:04 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 28 May 2015 at 12:46, Rick Lair wrote: >> We only reference the G54-59 coordinate systems on the Mill side, on the >> lathe side, we solely use G92. I believe it is because we are only >> working in one "plane" and are only referencing one part, the G

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 May 2015 at 12:46, Rick Lair wrote: > We only reference the G54-59 coordinate systems on the Mill side, on the > lathe side, we solely use G92. I believe it is because we are only > working in one "plane" and are only referencing one part, the G54-59 > allows you to run say 5 parts in 5 dif

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-28 Thread Rick Lair
On 5/28/2015 7:34 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 28 May 2015 at 12:25, Rick Lair wrote: > >> then take a skim cut on the OD of the part, measure that OD, >> then enter that value into the tool table, in diameter. > I assume you mean "X" and not "D" in the tool table here? Yes, I forgot about the "D"

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 May 2015 at 12:25, Rick Lair wrote: > then take a skim cut on the OD of the part, measure that OD, > then enter that value into the tool table, in diameter. I assume you mean "X" and not "D" in the tool table here? > Then on the next part, we will MDI back to T0101, manually jog and touch

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-28 Thread Rick Lair
gt; -- Original Message -- > From: "Chris Morley" > To: "EMC" > Sent: 2015-05-27 19:16:05 > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues > >> There is a difference between touching off to set tool offsets and >> touching off to set the origin (part z

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-28 Thread Rick Lair
t; > -- Original Message -- > From: "Chris Morley" > To: "EMC" > Sent: 2015-05-27 19:16:05 > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues > >> There is a difference between touching off to set tool offsets and >> touching off to set the origin (part

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 May 2015 at 11:08, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > what happens > if I have to change tool 1 and the offsets for the new tool changes. > Does the rest of the tools in the table adjust automatically or must I > redo all the tools in the table gain? If you change Tool 1 then you could touch-off th

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-28 Thread Marius Liebenberg
is Morley" >To: "EMC" >Sent: 2015-05-27 19:16:05 >Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues > >> >>There is a difference between touching off to set tool offsets and >>touching off to set the origin (part zero). Sounds like u were >>t

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-27 Thread Marius Liebenberg
y message - >From: "sam sokolik" >To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >Subject: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues >Date: Wed, May 27, 2015 9:18 AM > > >I found these directions very informative.. > >http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/lathe/lathe-user.h

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-27 Thread Chris Morley
hine Controller (EMC)" Subject: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues Date: Wed, May 27, 2015 9:18 AM I found these directions very informative.. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/lathe/lathe-user.html#_tool_touch_off sam On 5/27/2015 11:03 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 22 May 2015 at 17:20, M

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-27 Thread sam sokolik
I found these directions very informative.. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/lathe/lathe-user.html#_tool_touch_off sam On 5/27/2015 11:03 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 22 May 2015 at 17:20, Marius Liebenberg wrote: >> Then I put tool 1 in the post and do a reference cut. >> I touchoff X to the cut

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-27 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2015 at 17:20, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > Then I put tool 1 in the post and do a reference cut. > I touchoff X to the cut size > I touchoff Z to the chuck face. > Save the tool table and reload > Then I do a tool change with the button in Gmoccapy and put the next > tool in and repeat th

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-27 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Hi Ed Had no replies but yours so far. -- Original Message -- From: "Ed" To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: 2015-05-26 23:49:48 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues > >Did anyone explain this properly? If not I can give it a go. > >Ed. > > &

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-26 Thread Ed
Did anyone explain this properly? If not I can give it a go. Ed. On 05/22/2015 11:20 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > So finally I can no longer ignore the tool table functions of LCNC and I > have never had the prevaledge to understand them well. > > Please assist me in getting my head a

[Emc-users] Tool Table blues

2015-05-22 Thread Marius Liebenberg
So finally I can no longer ignore the tool table functions of LCNC and I have never had the prevaledge to understand them well. Please assist me in getting my head around this. What I have on my lathe is this. My limit switches are close to the chuck for the Z axis and fully retracted for the X

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2012-08-01 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 8/1/2012 2:32 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: > thanks for posting that kent I dont yet know how to post bugs but thats on > my list of things to learn I to wish i had an atc also > > Jeremy (and Andy): Dewey Garrett has already responded on the emc-developers list (that's where the bug tracker anno

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2012-08-01 Thread jeremy youngs
thanks for posting that kent I dont yet know how to post bugs but thats on my list of things to learn I to wish i had an atc also On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: > On 7/29/2012 5:46 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: > > On 7/29/2012 4:53 PM, andy pugh wrote: > >> On 29 July 2012 21:43,

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2012-08-01 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 7/29/2012 5:46 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: > On 7/29/2012 4:53 PM, andy pugh wrote: >> On 29 July 2012 21:43, jeremy youngs wrote: >>> thanx andy i wiil try that im a little confused "2 trailing new >>> lines"? I >>> think you are sying remove tool 5 then reload? >> No, I am saying that the file e

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2012-07-29 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 7/29/2012 4:53 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 29 July 2012 21:43, jeremy youngs wrote: >> thanx andy i wiil try that im a little confused "2 trailing new lines"? I >> think you are sying remove tool 5 then reload? > No, I am saying that the file ends with two blank lines, and that > seems to be caus

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2012-07-29 Thread jeremy youngs
thanx for clarification I will see if i can spot that myself, It does seem that if they are blank that they cant possibly be an argument or a statement huh? oh well the important thing is you helped i learned and in an hour or so ill have a part thanx again On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:53 PM, and

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2012-07-29 Thread jeremy youngs
got it andy thanx, i didnt realize there was a tool menu in axis and when i reloaded that it worked. Sometimes I feel like a dumb oaf so i have to extend thanx -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will c

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2012-07-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 July 2012 21:43, jeremy youngs wrote: > thanx andy i wiil try that im a little confused "2 trailing new lines"? I > think you are sying remove tool 5 then reload? No, I am saying that the file ends with two blank lines, and that seems to be causing a problem. I don't know why, as it shouldn

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2012-07-29 Thread jeremy youngs
thanx andy i wiil try that im a little confused "2 trailing new lines"? I think you are sying remove tool 5 then reload? trying not to be thick headed here so pls forgive im trying to aclimate to this tool and work offset, some day when i get smarter i want to tackle this as ive seen some discussio

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2012-07-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 July 2012 12:55, jeremy youngs wrote: > heres the tool table. I tried g10 l1 and it had the same error, i wrote > tool 5 in and saved the file . I dont understand why it sees all the other > tools? I tried your tool.tbl in a sim, and get the same result. By removing the two trailing newlin

[Emc-users] tool table

2012-07-29 Thread jeremy youngs
heres the tool table. I tried g10 l1 and it had the same error, i wrote tool 5 in and saved the file . I dont understand why it sees all the other tools? thanx fellas tool.tbl Description: Binary data -- Live Security Vir

Re: [Emc-users] tool table concerns

2012-07-28 Thread andy pugh
On 29 July 2012 00:54, jeremy youngs wrote: > N232 M01 > N234 T5 M6 > N236 G0 G90 G54 X.7213 Y-1.068 S5704 M3 > N238 G43 H5 Z.25 > N240 Z.1 > N242 G1 Z-.0167 F6.16 > > tool #5 not in tool library error ???/ I put this tool in the library Have you reloaded the tool table? tool.tbl is a short fil

[Emc-users] tool table concerns

2012-07-28 Thread jeremy youngs
N232 M01 N234 T5 M6 N236 G0 G90 G54 X.7213 Y-1.068 S5704 M3 N238 G43 H5 Z.25 N240 Z.1 N242 G1 Z-.0167 F6.16 tool #5 not in tool library error ???/ I put this tool in the library , tried g10l1 and it tells me the same every time. it will not mdi a t5m6 for the same reason? im at a loss and any hel

Re: [Emc-users] tool table definitions

2011-12-15 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Even though EMC2 does not directly use all of the information available in a tool crib list a complete description of the cutter is valuable to the machinist running the machine. I have seen as many as four 1/2 inch diameter X 1.25 4 flute end mills used in one program. The only difference is the c

Re: [Emc-users] tool table definitions

2011-12-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 December 2011 21:00, Dan Field wrote: > So now I wonder why there is even a Tool Crib in EMC? It has a number of uses. The main one is tool-length compensation. You can change tool and the tip of the tool is still at the XYZ that the screen says it is at. (or the XZ in the case of a lathe)

Re: [Emc-users] tool table definitions

2011-12-15 Thread gene heskett
questions > >in a forum. > > > > Good luck > > jim > > -----Original Message- > > From: Dan Field [mailto:danfi...@roadrunner.com] > > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:01 PM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [

Re: [Emc-users] tool table definitions

2011-12-15 Thread Richard Ray
nswered than just > asking questions in a forum. > > Good luck > jim > -Original Message- > From: Dan Field [mailto:danfi...@roadrunner.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:01 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tool table definiti

Re: [Emc-users] tool table definitions

2011-12-15 Thread James Louis
.@roadrunner.com] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:01 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tool table definitions On 12/15/2011 6:27 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 15 December 2011 14:06, wrote: > >> For example how to define a 1/8" ball nose mill > If y

Re: [Emc-users] tool table definitions

2011-12-15 Thread Dan Field
On 12/15/2011 6:27 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 15 December 2011 14:06, wrote: > >> For example how to define a 1/8" ball nose mill > If you want to automatically compensate for the ball-radius then I am > afraid that you can't. EMC2 doesn't know enough about the material > shape to compensate for ba

Re: [Emc-users] tool table definitions

2011-12-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 December 2011 14:06, wrote: > For example how to define a 1/8" ball nose mill If you want to automatically compensate for the ball-radius then I am afraid that you can't. EMC2 doesn't know enough about the material shape to compensate for ball-nose (or V) cutters. All EMC2 knows about is

[Emc-users] tool table definitions

2011-12-15 Thread kqt4at5v
A little help with tool table definitions please Having read 'http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.4/html/gcode_tool_compensation.html' I am still to thick to get it For example how to define a 1/8" ball nose mill Richard -- 10

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper

2010-09-09 Thread Andy Pugh
On 9 September 2010 15:52, John Kasunich wrote: > A dowel pin works great for this - very precise, and you can simply > push it against the side of the tool, then raise the tool (or lower > the knee) slowly until the pin rolls under. I think I have just found a use for the shank of the 6mm carbi

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper

2010-09-09 Thread John Kasunich
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:22 -0700, "Speaker To-Dirt" wrote: > > For what it's worth. I stumbled across this by accident. At a tool > change take your tool to an area where there's still a surface z0.000. > End the move with z1.000. Remove the tool, and insert the new tool. > Now use a clamp arm

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper

2010-09-08 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Your knee is your tool offset table. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Speaker To-Dirt wrote: > > For what it's worth. I stumbled across this by accident. At a tool > change take your tool to an area where there's still a surface z0.000. End > the move with z1.000. Remove the tool, and inser

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper

2010-09-08 Thread Speaker To-Dirt
For what it's worth. I stumbled across this by accident. At a tool change take your tool to an area where there's still a surface z0.000. End the move with z1.000. Remove the tool, and insert the new tool. Now use a clamp arm from your clamp kit that is 1" on a side. Raise or lower the k

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-08 Thread Daniel Goller
For tool measurements off the taper of the holder, for cat 40 and cat 50 at least it should be easy to even purchase blocks to use on the surface plate with a height gage. Every place I worked at had some, so I never had to source out. If this is available for your tool holders it provides nice con

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-08 Thread Andy Pugh
On 8 September 2010 15:25, Igor Chudov wrote: > (then start program that again asks for T2.) Maybe practice on polystyrene foam... -- atp -- This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: Show off your parallel programmi

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-08 Thread Stuart Stevenson
looks good On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: > Got it. > > Do in MDI: > > M6 T2 G43 > (then set height using a sliding gage block) > (then set Z=zero) > (then start program that again asks for T2.) > > - Igor > > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Stuart Stevenson > wrote: > >

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-08 Thread Igor Chudov
Got it. Do in MDI: M6 T2 G43 (then set height using a sliding gage block) (then set Z=zero) (then start program that again asks for T2.) - Igor On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > the g43 is the important part > you need to turn on the tool length offset for the tool in

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-08 Thread Stuart Stevenson
the g43 is the important part you need to turn on the tool length offset for the tool in the spindle and then the tool will be able to set the work piece coordinate zero On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Andy Pugh wrote: > On 8 September 2010 14:20, Igor Chudov wrote: > > > > Should I select my

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-08 Thread Andy Pugh
On 8 September 2010 14:20, Igor Chudov wrote: > > Should I select my first tool in MDI > (say M6T2), Don't forget the G43... -- atp -- This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: Show off your parallel programming ski

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-08 Thread Igor Chudov
Stuart, thanks. Great explanation. I already set up a little tool table. One more question, is, once I set up the tool table, how to set the initial offset so that the first tool chosen in the program, would be properly adjusted for height. Should I select my first tool in MDI (say M6T2), and then

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-08 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Igor, The whole point of tool length offsets is to run the program as if all tools are the same length. Early NC machines had the tool length incorporated in the program and the operator had to match each tool length to the programmed tool length for each tool. There were elaborate tool holders t

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-08 Thread Andy Pugh
On 7 September 2010 16:50, Igor Chudov wrote: > So say I touch off with one tool from tool table, then switch tool to > my desired cutting tool, and the cutting tool would automagically be > adjusted vertically to compensate for difference in offsets between > the cutting tool and the tool I used

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-07 Thread Igor Chudov
What I am doing now is setting up a tool table using GUI. I first homed the mill. Then I would load one tool after another: for each of them, I would find the Z coordinate so that they barely clear a gage block. Then, I enter the minus of that as Z attribute of the tool. I will try with a piece o

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-07 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: > Ed, thanks. > > What do you use to locate Z edge of a part? > > You cannot use a ball end electronic edge finder, right? > My hideous technique is to lower the tool close to the part, then feel under the cutting edge with a .005" thick piece of paper. When the paper starts

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-07 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > >> you can use the measured tool length as the number in the tool table >> you will need to set your z zero to use the measured tool length >> > > Stuart, do you mean that I have to set my zero by "touch off"?

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-07 Thread Ed
Igor Chudov wrote: > Ed, thanks. > > What do you use to locate Z edge of a part? > > You cannot use a ball end electronic edge finder, right? > > - Igor I do use the zero tool. Usually I use a carbide end mill as a feeler. As mentioned earlier, bring tool zero down to just above the work piece

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-07 Thread Igor Chudov
Ed, thanks. What do you use to locate Z edge of a part? You cannot use a ball end electronic edge finder, right? - Igor On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Ed wrote: > Igor Chudov wrote: >> Guys, >> >> First off, thanks to all for porting EMC to 10.04, it is fantastic. >> >> Just a question. I

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-07 Thread Ed
Igor Chudov wrote: > Guys, > > First off, thanks to all for porting EMC to 10.04, it is fantastic. > > Just a question. I use quick change toolholders based on NMTB-30. > > I am trying to get a tool table started. And I wonder if I can simply > measure the total length of the tool, in toolholder

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-07 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: > Guys, > > First off, thanks to all for porting EMC to 10.04, it is fantastic. > > Just a question. I use quick change toolholders based on NMTB-30. > > I am trying to get a tool table started. And I wonder if I can simply > measure the total length of the tool, in toolholder, w

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-07 Thread Igor Chudov
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > you can use the measured tool length as the number in the tool table > you will need to set your z zero to use the measured tool length Stuart, do you mean that I have to set my zero by "touch off"? So say I touch off with one tool from

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-07 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 10:17:01AM -0500, Igor Chudov wrote: > > Just a question. I use quick change toolholders based on NMTB-30. > > I am trying to get a tool table started. And I wonder if I can simply > measure the total length of the tool, in toolholder, with a caliper, > and then subtract s

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-07 Thread Stuart Stevenson
you can use the measured tool length as the number in the tool table you will need to set your z zero to use the measured tool length On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: > Guys, > > First off, thanks to all for porting EMC to 10.04, it is fantastic. > > Just a question. I use qui

[Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper.

2010-09-07 Thread Igor Chudov
Guys, First off, thanks to all for porting EMC to 10.04, it is fantastic. Just a question. I use quick change toolholders based on NMTB-30. I am trying to get a tool table started. And I wonder if I can simply measure the total length of the tool, in toolholder, with a caliper, and then subtract

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table Size Limit?

2010-05-30 Thread Ed Nisley
> Meanwhile, I wonder if we could just enlarge it by a > factor of 10 or 100 and forget about it for a while. A binary order of magnitude would keep me happy for a long time and a decimal order of magnitude would suffice forever. I could put more smarts into my Eagle hole extractor, but those d

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table Size Limit?

2010-05-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Chris Radek wrote: snip > Maybe doubling yours would keep you happy for a while. I am not sure > what all would be involved in removing these limitations, and I don't > know of anyone working on it currently. It would be nice if the > tool table could be arbit

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Table Size Limit?

2010-05-29 Thread Chris Radek
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 05:44:24PM -0400, Ed Nisley wrote: > In Axis 2.4.0, is it true that the tool table can have only > 48-ish entries? I thought it was 56ish, but yes it's something like that. > The problem is that Eagle's part libraries have a > bewildering variety of hole diameters, which

[Emc-users] Tool Table Size Limit?

2010-05-29 Thread Ed Nisley
In Axis 2.4.0, is it true that the tool table can have only 48-ish entries? I'm drilling circuit boards from Eagle layouts, using a script that extracts all the holes, sorts them by drill diameter, then visits each set in nearest-neighbor order. The problem is that Eagle's part libraries have

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-07 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 06.01.2010 um 16:16 schrieb Michael Haberler: > > Am 06.01.2010 um 06:21 schrieb Erik Christiansen: > >> On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 10:18:59PM -0600, Chris Radek wrote: >>> >>> Here is what the new tool table format looks like: >>> >>> http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=blob;f=configs/si

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-06 Thread Alfredo Sola
Good day gurus, Just FWIW, I'd like to share my view as a newbie hobby machinist using EMC regarding the tool table. > I'm proposing a much more moderate goal: to encode the current EMC > tool table such that it can be reused by other programs, and with some > self-description

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-06 Thread dave
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 16:21 +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 10:18:59PM -0600, Chris Radek wrote: > > > > Here is what the new tool table format looks like: > > > > http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=blob;f=configs/sim/sim.tbl;hb=tlo_all_axes > > Now that looks

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-06 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 06.01.2010 um 06:21 schrieb Erik Christiansen: > On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 10:18:59PM -0600, Chris Radek wrote: >> >> Here is what the new tool table format looks like: >> >> http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=blob;f=configs/sim/sim.tbl;hb=tlo_all_axes > > Now that looks very business-l

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-06 Thread Andy Pugh
2010/1/6 Alex Joni : > Having the field name (letter) followed by a number is a lot more flexible > and easier to read (and you can always sort the lines as you like). You can also, include tool wear (to an extent) if G-code expressions are allowed. I am thinking: D 10.00 ; 10mm end mill D [10.

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-06 Thread Alex Joni
> True, but you can use a * or | or / or \ or some unused character. In > Excel > you can define the separator. > The gist is that the the software is set up to handle 16 fields or > arguments. Now why would you want to do that? ' ' (space) is just as good separator as any, you can still import i

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-06 Thread Steve Stallings
e Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tool table > > 2010/1/6 Roland Jollivet : > > > > Just poking in here, but why not use comma delineators. > ... > > One can still use a prefferred editor or spreadsheet > > Comma delimited data can cause problems

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-06 Thread Roland Jollivet
True, but you can use a * or | or / or \ or some unused character. In Excel you can define the separator. The gist is that the the software is set up to handle 16 fields or arguments. Fields will be defined as time goes on, but the user might want to use the last few for own descriptions or for man

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-06 Thread Andy Pugh
2010/1/6 Roland Jollivet : > > Just poking in here, but why not use comma delineators. ... > One can still use a prefferred editor or spreadsheet Comma delimited data can cause problems for spreadsheets with localisation where the decimal separator is a comma. Probably not an issue internally to E

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-05 Thread Roland Jollivet
Just poking in here, but why not use comma delineators. Then you can by default have, say, 16 parameters per tool, most unused for now, but allows expansion of parameters at any stage. So each line would look something like; 1, T1, P1, D0.125000, Z+0.511000 , , , , , , , , , , , , ;1/8 end mil

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-05 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 10:18:59PM -0600, Chris Radek wrote: > > Here is what the new tool table format looks like: > > http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=blob;f=configs/sim/sim.tbl;hb=tlo_all_axes Now that looks very business-like. > You can see tool number, pocket, diameter, Z offset

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-05 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 02:59:13PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > If we don't watch out, there is a risk that the only way to read or edit > our configuration files would be some GUI monstrosity! (Hopefully, I > exaggerate horribly. :-) I sure sympathize with this worry. XML is very hostile

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-05 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:00:39PM -0500, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > So yes, making changes so that extra information could be added as > necessary would be great. Within the existing plain text format, that would be nifty indeed. > Making a format that humans can't read or write without soft

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-05 Thread John Figie
One other thing that would be nice in the tool table would be to specify the units of measurement.  Then if a tool was metric or inch there would be no need for manual unit conversion before entering the value. John Figie

Re: [Emc-users] tool table (was: Brass fittings & EMC and more.)

2010-01-05 Thread Mark
FBICS has a tool catalog with many features. The data is stored in a STEP Part 21 file. IMO, it would be worthwhile to examine the features Tom envisioned even if Part 21 won't be used. I think there is at least some discussion of the catalog in the FBICS docs on Tom Kramer's NIST page. I could d

Re: [Emc-users] tool table

2010-01-05 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Michael Haberler wrote: > Alex, > > I glossed over your references and am shocked, it's just a single > *table* ;-) > > I'm proposing a much more moderate goal: to encode the current EMC > tool table such that it can be reused by other programs, and with some > self-description features (field nam

Re: [Emc-users] tool table (was: Brass fittings & EMC and more.)

2010-01-05 Thread Michael Haberler
Alex, I glossed over your references and am shocked, it's just a single *table* ;-) I'm proposing a much more moderate goal: to encode the current EMC tool table such that it can be reused by other programs, and with some self-description features (field names, types, version number, machi

Re: [Emc-users] tool table (was: Brass fittings & EMC and more.)

2010-01-05 Thread Alex Joni
> > Since I assumed shareable tool information is an industry-wide problem > I had been googling around on the issue but didnt find a obvious > candidate for such a format, although a saw a manufacturer who makes > tool geometry information available in XML. Maybe there is such a > format, I just

Re: [Emc-users] tool table (was: Brass fittings & EMC and more.)

2010-01-05 Thread Michael Haberler
Hi Greg, Am 03.01.2010 um 06:38 schrieb Greg Bentzinger: > > So now for a brighter topic - any chance the new tool table format > might include geometry + wear? I had heard mention some changes were > planned. The tool table definitely is a data structure which has the "let's add this and t

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table

2009-10-27 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/10/27 Frank Tkalcevic : > Thanks.  Do I need to use G43 on each tool change line, or can this be set > once to tell EMC to always use the tool table offsets? Every time. You get used to it. -- atp -- Come build wi

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table

2009-10-27 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
> > However, after homing (with no tool loaded) and issuing an > M6T1, the > > x/z coordinates haven't been adjusted for the the tool offsets.  Is > > there something else I need to do? > > Yes. G43. > > M6 T1 G43 will work, or you can use an H-word to load offsets > from a different tool tab

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