Re: [EVDL] How to ruin your EV's Battery - LFP edition.

Do what Tesla recommends and don’t do what you read on forums. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, August 24, 2024, 3:40 PM, Ken Olum via EV wrote: Interesting.  What if you have NCA batteries, which seem to be what is in older Teslas? I guess I've been doing the wrong thing,

Re: [EVDL] EV efficiency argument.

ly simple software change that could have pretty big power considerations.     On Friday, July 26, 2024, 5:56:43 AM PDT, paul dove via EV wrote:    I doubt we have any congressman that understand physics.     On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 07:01:17 AM CDT, Mark Hanson via EV wrote:   EV e

Re: [EVDL] EV efficiency argument.

I doubt we have any congressman that understand physics. On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 07:01:17 AM CDT, Mark Hanson via EV wrote:  EV efficiency loop argument from pro EV Buttigieg. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jML8xzgD3jw Best regards Mark -- next part -- A

Re: [EVDL] DC motor isolation issues

If it’s a brushed motor the dust can cause a fault. You need to clean it all real good and replace the brushes. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, July 20, 2024, 6:19 PM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: So, I've been able to trace my current weird Zilla issues down to (most like

Re: [EVDL] Looking for a Zilla2K

Yes. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, June 30, 2024, 10:10 AM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: Anyone have a spare Zilla2K EHV for sale? ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.ev

Re: [EVDL] Creaky Tesla Y front end at 94K miles

I love how people assume Elon is behind every decision made at Tesla. You must think he is Superman or you never really ran anything yourself.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, June 23, 2024, 6:09 PM, Bobby Keeland via EV wrote: Tesla has been aware of the problem problem wit

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Troglodyte Toyta

Thanks looks like a good book.  Here’s an even shorter answer. https://www.google.com/search?q=goddard+space+flight+center+climate+change+co2&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#   Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, June 23, 2024, 3:45 PM, jamie via EV wrote: Here's a usefu

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Troglodyte Toyta

Yes, CO2 is a greenhouse gas which causes warming,  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, June 22, 2024, 2:33 PM, David Heacock wrote: Okay, just to throw more fossil fuel on the fire, does CO2 cause warming or does warming cause CO2?  Please don't quote the lame stream news.  A

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Troglodyte Toyta

The global warming contributor is CO2. A lot of countries put a tax on manufacturers who produce products that release CO2. That is what carbon neutral means no CO2 emissions. On Saturday, June 22, 2024 at 08:43:53 AM CDT, David Heacock via EV wrote: Cool.  I always thought the

Re: [EVDL] Contactor recomendations?

b at maximum throttle for whatever reason. My S10 also has a 360V pack and on flat road doing 55 the draw is 40 Amps continuous. No, the max current is unlikely to be the cause of the fails. More likely a failing or insufficient pre-charge. Cor. On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 7:51 AM paul dove via EV w

Re: [EVDL] Contactor recomendations?

It is only rated for 500A https://www.te.com/usa-en/product-1618387-5.datasheet.pdf On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 11:47:49 PM CDT, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: One of the contactors in my truck is failing.  It's one of the white ones (LEV200 I think). These don't seem to last more tha

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla cuts 3 major departments

The president doesn’t have that kind of power. Congress is in charge of budget. I work for the government. The way congress makes you write a contract ties the government workers hands in many cases.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, May 6, 2024, 10:40 PM, John Lussmyer via EV

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla cuts 3 major departments

Sure, sounds logical but the car would have prevented it is the argument. Not saying who’s right because it’s never happened to me but it’s very hard to resist intervention when the cars in control IME. It’s never messed up with me but it sometimes waits longer than I am comfortable with before

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla cuts 3 major departments

From what I’ve read it’s more often the driver who intervenes and shuts down Autopilot thus causing the accident.  Tesla keeps track of anyone actually cares. https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla-contents/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/safety-report-2023-mobile.jpg Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPh

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla cuts 3 major departments

You think death is what insurance companies care about when it costs $3000 to get a bumper repaired. A large percentage of people would be better off with self driving cars. Then they could look at their phone without consequences  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, May 3, 2024,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla cuts 3 major departments

I am with you John but at some point they take away your license. What then? Friend, relatives, taxi, bus? A self driving car could allow independence longer. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, May 3, 2024, 11:42 PM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: On 5/3/2024 9:29 PM, Lawrence Wi

Re: [EVDL] Tesla as a business

Well, awesome news mining but I’m more of a try the product kind of person. Best product in any category I ever owned. In 5 years, I have done nothing but charge it and buy tires. Their product bar none is the best I’ve ever owned. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, May 3, 2024,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla cuts 3 major departments

Amen! On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 08:04:32 AM CDT, Rush via EV wrote: David - Your prejudice against Tesla is so evident and overwhelming. I think that it is actually very counterproductive to the EV world. It seems to me that you're engaging in partisan politics, and that by continuo

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Rumor: Tesla abandons $25k EV?

If it’s rumor…. Why talk about it at all? Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, April 5, 2024, 9:35 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: Reuters is reporting that Tesla has suspended or cancelled its program to produce a low-cost EV, in favor of developing "robotaxis" instead. Elon M

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: The EV Pipeline to Eastern Europe

I don’t think it’s fear. It’s resale. Used EVs are cheap here so no reason to buy a wrecked one. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, March 4, 2024, 3:18 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: Here's a story from late last year that just "crossed my desk." The gist: US body shops se

Re: [EVDL] Tesla preconditioning, regen disabled and charging in cold weather

It’s been in the manual. People just don’t read it. Same for ICE car.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, January 18, 2024, 11:15 AM, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: I suspect a lot of people just don't understand all of this.  When I had my first Tesla, I remember talking to many peop

Re: [EVDL] Tesla preconditioning, regen disabled and charging in cold weather

Yes, charging at cold temperatures damages the batteries is my understanding.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, January 18, 2024, 10:27 AM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: Hi Phil etc, When Tesla says pre conditioning the battery prior to a supercharger is it cooling the battery

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Dead Teslas in Chicago

I read one article it was about an Uber driver who left for work with 30 miles on his battery it quickly read zero and he said he had to be towed and then it took 5 hours to get a charge. Now, is that a Tesla problem or a technology problem. IMO, no! If I drove an Uber I would make sure it was f

Re: [EVDL] 156v Tech assistance needed

Hey John, You say you run your shop off of the 24v setup….. do you have an inverter that makes 120VAC? Or 240VAC?  Seems to me that all you need is an inverter and a charger. There would be some losses but simple to implement.  If you go straight to the battery from the array you could use a DC t

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Yet more bad PR for Tesla

NHTSA Datasets and APIs | NHTSA  https://www.nhtsa.gov/nhtsa-datasets-and apis Replace missing - for link Tesla is not in too 12 Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, December 21, 2023, 7:58 AM, EV@TucsonEV via EV wrote: Speaking of recalls, did you see that Toyota is reca

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Yet more bad PR for Tesla

Yes, I recall the rapid acceleration issue they had years ago that they blamed on the drivers. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, December 21, 2023, 7:58 AM, EV@TucsonEV via EV wrote: Speaking of recalls, did you see that Toyota is recalling roughly 1 million cars in the U.S.

Re: [EVDL] Totally OT, but... (was: Elon Musk: "We should not demonize oil and gas")

That is not new. James Hanson told this to congress in the 80s. Al Gore made a documentary and everyone laughed. Still, I drive electric and have stopped flying for the most part sometimes for work I don’t have a choice. I’ll drive for most trips.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sun

Re: [EVDL] consumer reports EV reliability

I agree but notice it only listed two complaints body panels not fitting and battery or charging issues. They also didn’t list Tesla or mention them. Lexus was the top of the list. It was mostly focused on hybrids. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, November 30, 2023, 10:15 AM,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Cybertruck buyer's remorse not allowed?

I don't believe population is a problem. Greed is the problem. There is plenty here and resources could all be recycled. On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 01:36:35 AM CST, Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote: > Would or will YOU agree to it? Kind of reminds me of this.    https://www.youtube.

Re: [EVDL] OFF TOPIC Re: EV's not a green success.

The point is you can’t break the laws of physics. You can use them to make efficient vehicles but you can’t violate conservation of energy. Can’t get out more than you put in. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, November 8, 2023, 8:33 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Gail Donalds

Re: [EVDL] EV's not a green success.

Yes, he stated they would need storage facilities, that’s obvious because of nightfall. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, 6:28 PM, Michael Ross wrote: Musk proposed a seat of the pants estimate in an interview about how much solar array surface area would p

Re: [EVDL] OFF TOPIC Re: EV's not a green success.

Toyota did make two similar announcements one was a trigen facility that made hydrogen, clean water and electricy. The other was a hydrogen fuel cell electric Hilux prototype. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, 6:41 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Ok, thank

Re: [EVDL] EV's not a green success.

Elon Musk said he can power the whole US with 100 square miles on solar panels in Arizona  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, November 6, 2023, 12:41 PM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: I note a couple things about Zeihan's POV: He is talking about global defossilizing. Not mere veh

Re: [EVDL] California solicits applications for $40 million in NEVI EV charging grants

Your seriously comparing horses vs cars with EVs vs ICEs?  Horses were overcome by technology which is not the case here! Some tasks will always be better suited to combustion engines. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, November 4, 2023, 8:38 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Paul D

Re: [EVDL] California solicits applications for $40 million in NEVI EV charging grants

Very doubtful! We’ve had battery powered lawn equipment for over 10 years now and they still sale gasoline versions. We will never go 100% EV. Not unless the outlaw it. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, November 3, 2023, 1:45 PM, EV@TucsonEV via EV wrote: https://chargedevs.c

Re: [EVDL] Tesla-Y KWH Efficiency

It’s mostly due to the ratio of battery weight to vehicle weight. A much larger percentage of the weight is batteries compared to other vehicles and conversions  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, October 26, 2023, 2:57 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Tesla probably has a lot mor

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Wait - what? MORE labor hours?

The source is right there! Reuters! Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, October 17, 2023, 3:26 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: On 17 Oct 2023 at 15:57, paul dove via EV wrote: > We have some news of the efficiency of Tesla -vs- VW in terms of how many > workers ca

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Wait - what? MORE labor hours?

Tesla Worker Efficiency We have some news of the efficiency of Tesla -vs- VW in terms of how many workers can make how many cars in Germany, according to a Reuters.com article. Let's see what the number say: In Germany: Tesla will produce 500,000 cars with 12,000 workers VW will produce 700,00

Re: [EVDL] Starship will be no better than cavemen throwing rocks at the moon

I watched the beginning of that and I don't get the connection to starship that is the title of your post. Was there a point you were trying to make? On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 02:47:48 PM CDT, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: https://www.youtube.com/live/zDY7t6HihCw?si=4QDCdXL7DPN

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 3000lb of metal, parked

Yes, that’s exactly why I didn’t believe the story. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, September 17, 2023, 7:20 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: The owner had no problems getting warranty repair for a battery problem.  Her trouble started because 1. Tesla ran a Carmax report

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 3000lb of metal, parked

Lackey via EV wrote: > > On 17 Sep 2023 at 14:06, paul dove via EV wrote: > > > Stories like this are so unbelievable. > > I have never communicated with Tesla via email. > > Any issue with my vehicle was handled via the phone app. > > They always respond in a time

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 3000lb of metal, parked

Stories like this are so unbelievable. I have never communicated with Tesla via email. Any issue with my vehicle was handled via the phone app. They always respond in a timely manner and I have the option to call the service center with questions. On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 06:59:40 A

Re: [EVDL] EV Distance Record Smashed

Or carry spare batteries. On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 08:00:20 PM CDT, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > 100 miles on 1kWh? What are you smoking? > > I'm pretty sure even an electric bicycle can't do that. No; think about it. A bicycle goes about 15 mph. 100 mil

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Chat concerning a model Y purchase concern. Didn't go well.

My point was… it says standard range has LFP cells Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, September 9, 2023, 8:32 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: True. However, Manganese will be cheaper yet, and better. Lawrence Rhodes     On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 06:14:26 PM PDT, pau

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Chat concerning a model Y purchase concern. Didn't go well.

Due to their long life, safety, and affordability, Tesla, Ford, and other major automakers are switching to LFP batteries in some of their EV models. Tesla uses LFP batteries in its Model 3 Standard Range Plus and Model Y Standard Range models.  https://eepower.com/market-insights/tesla-kicks-of

Re: [EVDL] EV charging is changing

That's great except for traveling and apartment dwellers. I only use the supercharger when on the interstates. My non-Tesla EV  I only use in the city and charge at home. On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 04:06:05 PM CDT, Lee Hart via EV wrote: EV@TucsonEV via EV wrote: > One of the reaso

Re: [EVDL] EV charging is changing

There own cheapness brought them to Tesla. They didn’t want to pay for it. Wanted the government or someone else to foot the bill. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, August 28, 2023, 12:44 PM, EV@TucsonEV via EV wrote: https://chargedevs.com/features/how-automakers-disappointme

Re: [EVDL] Curtis 1204-015 controler replace or repair?

Amazon.com: New 1204-015 Cc33788 24V / 36V 275Amp DC Controller for Curtis Club Car : Automotive On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 11:44:15 PM CDT, David Nelson via EV wrote: Hi, I have a 1993 Club Car 36V golf cart I'm trying to resurrect for a charitable organization. I hooked up some

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

He said supercharger.  Guess he’s saying the charger checks the Vin #. Would work on home Tesla chargers  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, June 21, 2023, 3:10 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Chargerman CCS Combo 2 to US Tesla Dual(DC+AC) Adapter - Black Last item availab

Re: [EVDL] need new home ESVE

Been using mine for four years on my Model S.  No issues.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, June 18, 2023, 5:45 PM, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: I do not recommend the mobile connector for daily use, it's got pretty thin cable and has a lot more loss, and eventually the cable seems t

Re: [EVDL] Game over the Tesla NACS wins the day

There are no card readers on them and they don’t need them. You register your car and have a card on file. You just plug in … can’t be simpler than that. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, June 9, 2023, 4:53 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: On 9 Jun 2023 at 8:04, Tom Keenan via

Re: [EVDL] Game over the Tesla NACS wins the day

It’s in the new standard mandated by the government. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/02/15/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-announces-new-standards-and-major-progress-for-a-made-in-america-national-network-of-electric-vehicle-chargers/   Sent from AT&T Yah

Re: [EVDL] Game over the Tesla NACS wins the day

The Tesla service representative told me that adapters (even Tesla adapters) are the most likely failure point. They can get hot and melt. I quit using mine after he told me. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, June 10, 2023, 1:54 AM, Danny Ames via EV wrote: Forwarding post

Re: [EVDL] Game over the Tesla NACS wins the day

With a Tesla you have an account with cc information already stored. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, June 9, 2023, 10:05 AM, Tom Keenan via EV wrote: If NACS does become the standard, I’m curious how Tesla will do billing for non-Tesla vehicles. Will the vehicle be identified

Re: [EVDL] Which sex buys more EVs?

My wife sold her Model 3 because chargers are still too isolated in malls around shops that have limited hours. She doesn’t travel much alone but wanted ice car in case she ever had to. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, June 3, 2023, 12:55 PM, Josh Landess via EV wrote: The

Re: [EVDL] charging infrastructure [EV Digest, Vol 127, Issue 14]

It is easily solved. Put chargers in every gas station. Wouldn’t need many. There’s usually several gas stations at every exit on a highway and every few blocks in a city Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, June 4, 2023, 1:16 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Right now, most of us

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chinese EVs are headed for the US

Tesla Model 3 outsells the Camry in several of there too markets. Model Y outsells the RAV4. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, May 25, 2023, 2:29 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I think the direction of Tesla's future is quite unknown. Musk is about as unpredictable as you c

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla's reputation takes a hit

It’s worse than that… history shows that people resist change and it seems especially technology changes.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 7:47 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Out of more than 100 models, the Tesla Model Y is the highest-scoring car test

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

Yes one that wouldn’t go as far or charge as fast as the Tesla he owns now.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, May 23, 2023, 5:25 AM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: On 22 May 2023 at 21:30, Josh Landess via EV wrote: > Tesla had replaced it > under warranty with a 90 (they don

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

In a statement, Tesla explains that it is a software limitation to optimize for the best possible owner experience that’s within the limits of physics. Here’s the statement in full: “The peak charging rate possible in a li-ion cell will slightly decline after a very large number of high-rate

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

So, according to google a leaf in 2015 was 33 to $36k. I paid $42k for my model 3 in 2018.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, May 18, 2023, 2:23 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: On 5/17/23 18:49, paul dove via EV wrote: > So, what is your alternative. A leaf? We

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

I believe most of the Tesla fans actually own one and most of the skeptics never have and probably never drove one. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, May 17, 2023, 4:06 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: On 17 May 2023 at 6:52, Josh Landess via EV wrote: > > "...I don't know

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

So, what is your alternative. A leaf? They were the only ones that made a usable vehicle.  Now if they had a bunch of competitors this would be reasonable criticism but nobody else was doing anything. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, May 17, 2023, 11:08 AM, (-Phil-) via EV w

Re: [EVDL] Why Toyota Isn't Rushing to Sell You an Electric Vehicle

Here, you guys can get one of these. https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-model-3-outsold-china-hong-guang-mini-ev-2021-5? Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, May 17, 2023, 6:29 PM, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: Since we are railing against the "Man" today (Auto Manufacturers): http

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

Only by a select few and I don’t understand it either  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, May 16, 2023, 1:41 PM, Willie via EV wrote: On 5/16/23 12:53, Josh Landess wrote: > It looks like you have quite a bit of first-hand knowledge in this > area. What speeds do you get on yo

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: "The end of the internal combustion engine" via China

ot;good riddance". I'm no big Elon Musk fan, but it's just a dream to see that the Model Y is on its way to being the most popular car of any kind in the world. -Tom On 4/22/2023 1:33 PM, paul dove via EV wrote: > Elon Musk May Have Been Right, His Tesla Model Y Guess Could Com

Re: [EVDL] A123 battery charger

Charge at 3A to 3.6 v cc cv till current drops to C/20. Any lithium iron phosphate charger will work Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, April 27, 2023, 10:40 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: I have some left over A123 Systems ANR2665M1A cells. I would like to use a few to

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

f in the car, which is... stupid and unnecessary, I am > *sure* that the Supercharging network can identify cars - how else can > they enable other cars to start using their Superchargers? > Unhappily yours, > Cor. > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:27 PM paul dove via EV wrote: >

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

their Superchargers? Unhappily yours, Cor. On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:27 PM paul dove via EV wrote: > >  Interesting article. > I have a Model S with unlimited supercharging and I have never heard of this > offer. > So, how exactly is Tesla trying to get us to give up free supercharging? &g

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

Interesting article. I have a Model S with unlimited supercharging and I have never heard of this offer. So, how exactly is Tesla trying to get us to give up free supercharging? It appears that it is an incentive to try and sell new cars which don't have free supercharging rather than a ploy to

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: "The end of the internal combustion engine" via China

Elon Musk May Have Been Right, His Tesla Model Y Guess Could Come True Tesla CEO Elon Musk often gets to prove to people that he was right all along, and another such opportunity may come soon enough.   Tesla CEO Elon Musk said some time ago that the Model Y would outsell all of Tesla's other

Re: [EVDL] China fires back!

Tesla makes cars in China too! Let’s be clear though. They aren’t Chinese cars neither is a Renault or any other brand that builds a factory in China or Mexico or wherever. I was speaking if Chinese brands. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, April 7, 2023, 6:16 PM, EV List Lackey

Re: [EVDL] China fires back!

So, which Chinese EV should I purchase? Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, April 6, 2023, 5:10 PM, Paul Compton via EV wrote: On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 at 19:10, paul dove via EV wrote: > I wouldn't expect China to produce anything worth having in the near future >

Re: [EVDL] China fires back!

The thing is Tesla is the current leader in sales and technology when it comes to electric motors. They announced at the last investors day that they were going away from rare earth elements in their vehicles in the future.They are going to produce a permanent magnet electric motor with zer

[EVDL] Tesla sells beer

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Can you fix your own Tesla?

They are all being sued for that. GM says the can’t comply for safety reason and proprietary property  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, March 19, 2023, 6:30 AM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: Two proposed class-action lawsuits allege that Tesla is violating US antitrust laws b

Re: [EVDL] How is tihis possible?

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/woman-discovers-keyless-entry-fob-opens-other-locked-cars?_amp=true   Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, March 11, 2023, 4:10 AM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: A Vancouver man is trying to figure out how he managed to get into someone else´s

Re: [EVDL] 2 acre riding lawn mower

There are several companies making them. I guess ego is not a major manufacturer in your mind. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, February 8, 2023, 11:12 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Well, not something you would take on the road, but I'm glad to see a major manufacturer,

Re: [EVDL] 2 acre riding lawn mower

I apologize! Sincerely was not trying to be rude. Originally I was going to post a link. Seems when I do that it includes a bunch of graphics and the forum rejects those. In addition, my chihuahua was jumping on me while typing in my phone and I didn’t give much thought to how it sounded. I mere

Re: [EVDL] Tesla slashes its car prices for speculator reasons in click bait headline says advertisers who tesla never advertise with ($35k is here) (Tesla≠TaTa)

They are just like other car companies. If you look for overstock end of month sales you can find a deal. I bought my long range Model S 2019 brand new because it had been on the lot for a while for $78,000. Had like 50 miles on it. Autopilot 100kwh battery. Sunroof.  I saw a plaid that’s been o

[EVDL] Industry adoption of EVs

https://youtu.be/sbPH5cTTBD s you need to remove the space between D and s to navigate to the link. Interesting, I have seen many conversations on here about EVs not a good solution for industrial applications. Someone was thinking outside the box on this one. I thought maybe this group

Re: [EVDL] Do EVs make green sense?

Tesla didn't invent using aluminum and they are not the only ones. https://www.motortrend.com/features/15-automotive-aluminum- warriors/ Money is what drives the world. If people are buying EV's they will solve all the problems to provide a product. On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 02:20:17

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

Really, how did you get so jaded? It is getting tiresome. Ask yourself how many automobile startups have you seen in your life that were successful? Nissan, Mitsubishi and others are established companies who are subsidized by their governments. Tesla has been fighting and uphill battle. Everyon

Re: [EVDL] Tesla - car company from scratch

Yeah, the original Tesla Roadster used the ACP design with very little change. On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:55 AM paul dove via EV wrote:  Little known history. The Tesla drive train was purchased from a company founded by Allen Cocconi called AC Propulsion. Allen was the engineer that designed the

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

No, you are being difficult. It's obvious to me that folks on this forum dislikes Telsa based fabricated information. Did anyone here look up facts about the CEO's of Ford, GM, Nissan, Toyota, etc. before they bought a car? It is sheer nonsense. On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 01:32:59 PM C

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

How do you know they didn't need him? I was under the impression that they approached him about investing. Elon said Eberhard was wealthy but unwilling to risk his own money. On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 12:23:36 PM CST, Lawrence Winiarski wrote: Still, if the the original Tesla guys

Re: [EVDL] Tesla - car company from scratch

Little known history. The Tesla drive train was purchased from a company founded by Allen Cocconi called AC Propulsion. Allen was the engineer that designed the EV1 drive train for GM. On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:33:29 AM CST, Tom Mandera via EV wrote: Why do we start with an I

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

I would not characterize it in that way.  They were a year old when he invested ((2004). They didn't even have a product yet. They just had an idea; the prototype was unveiled 2 years after Mush became chairman of the board of directors (2006). Eberhard resigned as CEO a year after that (2007).

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

You all need to change the name of this list from electric vehicle discussion list to Tesla bashing discussion list.  Musk attended Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, and in 1992 he transferred to the University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, where he received bachelor’s degrees in physics

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

I have it on good authority that Elon is a very very difficult man to work for. This may be why he is so successful, perhaps. What I read in the news lately about Elon seems completely in character for him. I don't doubt anything I have read so far in the least. Bill D. On 12/19/2022 5:40

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

Have to?  I am sure they did the math.  On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 10:18:27 AM CST, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Too little too late.  Now Tesla is going to have to add the clunky CCS connectors to its network at considerable expense. I use a Tesla tap. Tesla has a CHAdeMO adap

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

Alleged mis-behavior  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, December 18, 2022, 9:08 AM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: On 12/17/22 11:21, Willie McKemie via EV wrote: > Yes, hate for Musk seems to dominate. Here and elsewhere. Despite his > obvious skills and MANY successes. I am confus

Re: [EVDL] Goodbye old friend.

ause > > the gas station might "burn down"? > > > > > >    On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 04:15:20 PM PST, paul dove via EV < > > ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > >  That is not bricking a car! It will charge just not on. Supercharger. > >

Re: [EVDL] Goodbye old friend.

That is not bricking a car! It will charge just not on. Supercharger. This is to protect superchargers from burning down not to prevent repairs. Like it or not they own the superchargers. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, December 11, 2022, 2:32 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

You mean industry cooperation for the good of all. We are in competition in the US, corporate profits are all that matters    Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, November 25, 2022, 10:11 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I don't know of methane would, on average, produce less CO2 i

Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

That’s not a problem. Get the Tesla supercharger app. They didn’t impact the grid.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, November 24, 2022, 10:39 AM, Matthew Pitts via EV wrote: Peri, The problem is that you'll need far more locations to charge EV Semi Trucks than just at curr

Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

In Europe they even have electric ships. I haven’t heard of any grid issues there. Fully Charged Presents Electric Ferry With 4.1 MWh Battery:  ttps://insideevs.com/news/349545/fully-charged-electric-ferry/ Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, November 24, 2022, 1:17 AM, Peri Ha

Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

Yes, unfortunately, no one is guiding development with the consumer in mind. I’ve been up north and there are parking lots with outlets at every parking spot I suppose for block heaters. It would fairly easy and cheap to do this more. Then you could plug in at work. I don’t know about in public

Re: [EVDL] solar panels over parking lots, duh

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 10:41:01 PM CST, Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote: Underground?   Parking garages?  Trees???  Nearby Skyscrapers? I like solar, but...I'm nervous of bureaucrats making arbitrary decisions.       On Wednesday, November 16, 2022, 7:27:27 PM PST, pau

Re: [EVDL] solar panels over parking lots, duh

I’ve said that’s what we should do for years now! It makes perfect sense Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, November 16, 2022, 7:55 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: France to require all large parking lots to be covered by solar panels https://grist.org/article/france-to-requir

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