[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@... wrote: Obsessive? You're the one who posted out (63 in 3 days!) little lady. No, the good sister was a victim of the Post Count mechanism chopping wood and carrying water for her. It wasn't her fault. You know, like what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where are the Buddhists?

2009-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Buddhists claimants! Stand forth and assert your claims here on FFL in a straight-forward manner - instead of the usual pseudo-fodder. I'm not a Buddhist per se, but I'll assert my claims. I claim to know nothing for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judee Sill

2009-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
Cool post, Geez. I just love it when people break out of the I know stuff better than you know stuff rut and just talk about Something They Love. Even Judy managed to sound human (to me, for the first time in *months*) lately by waxing ecstatic over eating clams. That was a cool moment. For once,

[FairfieldLife] Re: WSJ: Obama's charm isn't working abroad

2009-02-11 Thread enlightened_dawn11
first, the WSJ is heavily biased and now owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp (the same folks who run Faux News). second, everyone expects miracles in 3 weeks after B*$# and his cronies spent an industrious eight years wrecking our reputation globally? who can take the trash you have quoted

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Curtis, what say you to Fred Travis' finding that long-term and short-term TMers show the same overall physiological changes DURING TM but that

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Curtis writes in this, I don't share his (Maharishi's) view that the silence experienced in meditation is our true nature or our

[FairfieldLife] Re: You Try to Live on 500K in This Town

2009-02-11 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/fashion/08halfmill.html Yep, those incompetent bank executives shouldn't be required to change their lifestyles at

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread enlightened_dawn11
i am still trying to figure out why on earth i would want a rainbow body...color me clueless about that- lol. seriously, to say there are states of evolution beyond enlightenment again presupposes enlightenment as something finite. it isn't. even the rainbow body phenomenon if it exists could

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Let me jump into this attachment discussion. I'd like to argue that you don't know what attachment is until you experience pure consciousness

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread enlightened_dawn11
the key is in Curtis's statement about the silence -experienced in meditation-. by saying this, he indicates that the silence experienced in meditation does not also pervade activity before and after meditation, and so the -silence experienced in meditation- becomes just another relative

[FairfieldLife] Hierarchical Thinking vs. Relational Thinking

2009-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
In the world of database, this distinction is well known. The first databases were hierarchical; that is, with the data in them arranged in inverse tree structures, from highest category (trunks) of organization to lower categories of organization (limbs) to the lowest level of organization

[FairfieldLife] Some of my favourite Fab Four tunes! Part 1

2009-02-11 Thread cardemaister
Ringo was one heck of a rock 'n roll drummer, and Paul was a conditio sine qua non -vocalist? http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=382457

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some of my favourite Fab Four tunes! Part 1

2009-02-11 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: Ringo was one heck of a rock 'n roll drummer, and Paul was a conditio sine qua non -vocalist? http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=382457 Oops! :] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj0THqkPSHs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some of my favourite Fab Four tunes! Part 1

2009-02-11 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Ringo was one heck of a rock 'n roll drummer, and Paul was a conditio sine qua non -vocalist? http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=382457

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ringo Paul to Perform Together at David Lynch's concert on April 4th

2009-02-11 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickm...@... wrote: In case you haven't already heard the news. http://www.iowasource.com/blog/858-ringo-paul-to-perform-together.html Ringo Paul to Perform Together at David Lynch's Change Starts from Within concert on April 4th by

Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread Vaj
On Feb 10, 2009, at 11:40 PM, yifuxero wrote: Neo-Advaitins typically downplay such progressions. Vaj called the attainment of a Glorified Rainbow Light Body an epiphenomenon. No, you misunderstood what I was saying. The remainder, the non- DNA containing bodily remains, are the

Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread Vaj
On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:22 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Curtis writes in this, I don't share his (Maharishi's) view that the silence experienced

Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread Vaj
On Feb 9, 2009, at 10:34 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Let me jump into this attachment discussion. I'd like to argue that you don't know what attachment is until you experience pure consciousness while the mind

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: When someone only achieves what they were told, what does that tell you? That you are a hobby-Buddhist and a fool ?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some of my favourite Fab Four tunes! Part 1

2009-02-11 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Ringo was one heck of a rock 'n roll drummer, and Paul was a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post from ex member of cult

2009-02-11 Thread dhamiltony2k5
http://steveskojec.com/2009/02/03/house-of-cards/ Foundered out: had a mistress, fathered at least one child, and lived a double life. For this reason, the Legion(Movement) is renouncing him as their spiritual founder. The information began trickling in. In an unusual twist, it was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hierarchical Thinking vs. Relational Thinking

2009-02-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip Take the recent exchanges between Curtis and Judy. Curtis has been trying to make the point that although he admits fully that meditation can bring about changes in one's state of awareness or state of consciousness, he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some of my favourite Fab Four tunes! Part 1

2009-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: Wish I could go to NY on the 4. April, but the mad americans would not let me into their country. You've probably been declared a security risk, and the guards alerted to not let you in. You know, the way you said I was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Judee Sill

2009-02-11 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 10, 2009, at 11:13 PM, geezerfreak wrote: The second thing that happened was that I began to pull out my two Judee Sill records. Those who know me, know that I am a jazz fan through and through.jazz meaning the likes of Miles, 'Trane, Bill Evans, Mingus, Grant Green, Wes...on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hierarchical Thinking vs. Relational Thinking

2009-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Take the recent exchanges between Curtis and Judy. Curtis has been trying to make the point that although he admits fully that meditation can bring

[FairfieldLife] If I wanted to see Fairfield and go into domes and ro

2009-02-11 Thread Kirk
and round for a week. How hard would that be? Do they have week WPAs anymore?

[FairfieldLife] Re: If I wanted to see Fairfield and go into domes and ro

2009-02-11 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: and round for a week. How hard would that be? Do they have week WPAs anymore? Don't know about WPA's, but IA is the current rounding program in the domes. For some time, housing on campus was limited - on campus housing,

[FairfieldLife] Is everyone else really peaceless and suffering without TM?

2009-02-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
Here is a work in progress. A bit raggedy. But I'm getting somewhere I think. Thanks to everyone who has helped me find my way for my own POV about certain yoga terms. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Has nothing to do with Peter's post, however. Like

[FairfieldLife] Re: If I wanted to see Fairfield and go into domes and ro

2009-02-11 Thread Larry
I did just that about a year ago (for a weekend) - - (at that time) and you allowed as much time in the domes as a reasonable person would need for rounding. time in the domes and--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20...@... wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: newsletter from Raja Harris, raja of India

2009-02-11 Thread mainstream20016
The news from India is that after all these decades of fund raising, building, and training of pandits, there is SO much left to be done. Currently, 1,500 pandits in residence - but the goal is 48,000 at the Brahmasthan itself, and tens of thousands more to be placed throughout India.

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: the key is in Curtis's statement about the silence -experienced in meditation-. by saying this, he indicates that the silence experienced in meditation does not also pervade activity before and after meditation,

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Obsessive? You're the one who posted out (63 in 3 days!) little lady. No, the good sister was a victim of the Post Count mechanism chopping wood

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: Do you feel that it is your true nature or real self? Why? If silence is more consistent than non-silence, how could you NOT identify it as being more real than non-silence? Perhaps that kind of consistency is not the only

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: RETRACTION TO: Ringo Paul to Perform Together at David Lynch's concert on April 4th

2009-02-11 Thread Dick Mays
Forwarded: Guess I passed the wrong info around. Sorry to get your hopes up. That rumor of Ringo playing with Paul was retracted this morning. Wednesday Morning Update by Christine Albers On behalf of the David Lynch Foundation, I want to apologize about prematurely posting that Ringo will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: RETRACTION TO: Ringo Paul to Perform Together at David Lynch's concer

2009-02-11 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickm...@... wrote: Forwarded: Guess I passed the wrong info around. Sorry to get your hopes up. That rumor of Ringo playing with Paul was retracted this morning. Wednesday Morning Update by Christine Albers On behalf of the David

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some of my favourite Fab Four tunes! Part 1

2009-02-11 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Wish I could go to NY on the 4. April, but the mad americans would not let me into their country. You've probably been declared a security risk,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where are the Buddhists?

2009-02-11 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: I honestly don't see Maharishi Mahesh Yogi as being terribly important in any real historical sense. I suspect he will be almost completely forgotten within

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread enlightened_dawn11
it is disingenuous to say that the identification with pure awareness during activity necessitates a belief system. the explanation of what is going on is necessary to understand it. but i wouldn't constitute an explanation as a belief system. the awareness is there whether the explanation is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: RETRACTION TO: Ringo Paul to Perform Together at David Lynch's concer

2009-02-11 Thread mainstream20016
(from the Albers retraction) David Lynch is orchestrating the whole evening, and it will be a unique Lynchian event— unlike any other concert anyone has attended! He is having a lot of fun coming up with creative and unusual ideas to make it a fabulous evening Sounds great that D Lynch is

Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread Vaj
On Feb 11, 2009, at 10:55 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: the key is in Curtis's statement about the silence -experienced in meditation-. by saying this, he indicates that the silence experienced in meditation does not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judee Sill

2009-02-11 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Feb 10, 2009, at 11:13 PM, geezerfreak wrote: The second thing that happened was that I began to pull out my two Judee Sill records. Those who know me, know that I am a jazz fan through and

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread enlightened_dawn11
who said anything about me being enlightened? i haven't. obviously your years of meditation have not improved your ability to read Vaj. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 11, 2009, at 10:55 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2009-02-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
Dam. And here I was, totally blissed out at the thought of you wandering around in the wilderness for two weeks, shemp. shempmcgurk wrote: As willytex would say: go figure. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: it is disingenuous to say that the identification with pure awareness during activity necessitates a belief system. I'm pretty sure you aren't clear about the meaning of disingenuous. I am being as sincere as you are

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Obsessive? You're the one who posted out (63 in 3 days!) little lady.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where are the Buddhists?

2009-02-11 Thread Kirk
For lack of morphine self injectors or poppies I am now buying up the last, even crappy, 2004-2005 Zinfandels. For lack of a job I am hanging out here at FFLife. My best buddy got arrested before his phone was cut off. His girlffriend is not taking calls. I need to get a shitty job but the

[FairfieldLife] Cartoon of the Day - 2-11-09

2009-02-11 Thread do.rflex
http://www.bartcop.com/mess-change.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Calling actors, models entertainers

2009-02-11 Thread Rick Archer
Dear Fairfield Friends those that know folks in the area, In my new job as a Talent Director for an international acting modeling company, I will be traveling to Cedar Rapids for 3 open talent searches to be held on Feb. 21- 22, 2009. If you know of anyone in the area with kids ages 9 to 18

[FairfieldLife] update on Israeli election

2009-02-11 Thread yifuxero
she gets my vote! http://www.ncane.com/ytf

[FairfieldLife] John Lennon/Christine Albers: one and the same person? You decide...

2009-02-11 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickm...@... wrote: In case you haven't already heard the news. http://www.iowasource.com/blog/858-ringo-paul-to-perform-together.html Ringo Paul to Perform Together at David Lynch's Change Starts from Within concert on April 4th by

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2009-02-11 Thread yifuxero
---Did you include the Israeli's? http://www.ncane.com/ytf In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:17 PM, FFL PostCount wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Feb 07 00:00:00 2009 End

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where are the Buddhists?

2009-02-11 Thread Vaj
On Feb 11, 2009, at 11:23 AM, geezerfreak wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: I honestly don't see Maharishi Mahesh Yogi as being terribly important in any real historical sense. I

[FairfieldLife] Ron Kahre's new book!! message from a proud Mom

2009-02-11 Thread Rick Archer
Support local young author Ron Khare - buy his book from Amazon on Feb 20! _ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:27:03 -0800 From: phyllisonthebe...@yahoo.com Subject: message from a proud Mom To: phylliskh...@gmail.com hey everybody - and yes - I mean everybody - as I am sending this out to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where are the Buddhists?

2009-02-11 Thread Kirk
Ah, the difference Vaj, and others between Buddha and Maharishi is that Maharishi is just a proponent of Smarta ultimately, but Buddha touched the earth as his witness of his enlightened state. Maharishi had to create a crazy end of world impetus to keep his latter day org still motivated.

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Let me jump into this attachment discussion. I'd like to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where are the Buddhists?

2009-02-11 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Ah, the difference Vaj, and others between Buddha and Maharishi is that Maharishi is just a proponent of Smarta ultimately, but Buddha touched the earth as his witness of his enlightened state. Maharishi had to create a crazy

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread yifuxero
-right Ruth!: -Pure C. needed to appreciate the nature of attachment? I think not. MMY was attached to $$ all along. Sai Baba is supposedly attached to little boys. So I don't get this Neo-Advaitin attachment principle. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Amma ( new one ) and Swamiji in US tis weekend +

2009-02-11 Thread Rick Archer
Amma and Swamiji US Programs Spring 2009 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 22:26:30 -0500 www.ekatvam.org The Beginning is Believing Welcome to all the angels! We can have everything in our life, but what do we have if we do not have peace? And when we don't have everything we want, what do we

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:22 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Curtis writes

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 9, 2009, at 10:34 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Let me jump into this attachment discussion. I'd like to argue that you don't know what

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:22 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Do you feel that it is your true nature or real self? Why? If silence is more consistent than non-silence, how could you NOT identify it

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:22 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread Vaj
On Feb 11, 2009, at 1:07 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: I am not talking about an affectation. I am not talking about imitating. I am talking about who you are and who you can be. You can cultivate detachment without meditating, it has value and it is not mere moodmaking. It is you. It is about

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Feb 11,

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread sparaig
Interesting book, but he misquotes teh TM research on TC and claims that they only show TC for 15 seconds max, when in fact, the reserach says 15 to 60 seconds max. His discussion then becomes bogus since 60 seconds, occurring for more than 50% of a meditation period, is not a fleeting instant.

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread enlightened_dawn11
i have not heard any other explanation for the experience of silence aka pure consciousness along with activity, from the Maharishi or anyone else. every time it is addressed, this is the explanation given. the words used may be different, but regardless of the spiritual tradition or religion,

[FairfieldLife] Andrewsarchus

2009-02-11 Thread yifuxero
lived in the Eocene Period, about 40 million years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Andrewsarchus_DB.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Some Movie Recommendations

2009-02-11 Thread Bhairitu
Since Edg asked for some ideas and I watched one movie last night I can recommend as well as another way to know what films are available may interest folks. The film is a second tier production thriller called The Lodger with a stellar cast of Hope Davis, Alfred Molina, Phillip Baker Hall and

[FairfieldLife] New Income Opportunity: Vitamin Dealer

2009-02-11 Thread Bhairitu
The FDA seems intent on banning vitamins: http://www.newsfood.com/?location=Englishitem=55070 So for a great income opportunity some folks will stock up on the banned vitamins and sell them on the black market for dollars on the pennies. ;-) What next? Banning herbs? Fat chance.

[FairfieldLife] U.S. drug agency finds 'natural' diet pills laced with drugs

2009-02-11 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The FDA seems intent on banning vitamins: http://www.newsfood.com/?location=Englishitem=55070 So for a great income opportunity some folks will stock up on the banned vitamins and sell them on the black market for

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Do you feel that it is your true nature or real self? Why? If silence is more consistent than non-silence, how could

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmacarya and O?

2009-02-11 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:30 PM, sparaig wrote: Is there a money-back guarantee if it doesn't? Not that I know of. When I was younger, I used to brag about my prowess in bed and got laid regularly. Few were disappointed, at least as far as staying power goes. Though, with viagra these days,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: RETRACTION TO: Ringo Paul to Perform Together at David Lynch's concer

2009-02-11 Thread anaand108
What? I watched the Family Chat in good faith yesterday to hear Bob Roth Raja of USA announce that Ringo would be playin', how can that be a mistake? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20...@... wrote: (from the Albers retraction) David Lynch is

Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: IME, meditators get addicted to silent states and calm, thought-free states, just makes them flat. I suspect this is why many outsiders experience TM folks as having a flat affect. They don't integrate thought, they're too

[FairfieldLife] Texas judge orders site to identify anonymous trolls, flamers

2009-02-11 Thread It's just a ride
By Jacqui Cheng | Last updated February 11, 2009 11:45 The right to flame someone online has typically been protected by the courts, but a Texas judge has decided enough is enough when it comes to 178 anonymous commenters on Topix.com. The site has less than a month to hand over identifying

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread enlightened_dawn11
good comment, and insightful conclusion regarding the motivation for such activity, or lack thereof. putting the dyed cloth in the sun so to speak is what its all about! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Vaj

Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas judge orders site to identify anonymous trolls, flamers

2009-02-11 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 11, 2009, at 3:20 PM, It's just a ride wrote: The right to flame someone online has typically been protected by the courts, but a Texas judge has decided enough is enough when it comes to 178 anonymous commenters on Topix.com. The site has less than a month to hand over identifying

Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread Vaj
On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:25 PM, sparaig wrote: Interesting book, but he misquotes teh TM research on TC and claims that they only show TC for 15 seconds max, when in fact, the reserach says 15 to 60 seconds max. His discussion then becomes bogus since 60 seconds, occurring for more than

Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread Vaj
On Feb 11, 2009, at 4:08 PM, I am the eternal wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: IME, meditators get addicted to silent states and calm, thought- free states, just makes them flat. I suspect this is why many outsiders experience TM folks as having a

Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: On Feb 11, 2009, at 4:08 PM, I am the eternal wrote: My observation would be, since TM folks aren't taught how to transcend in all of the various Vedantic bodies, only the mental one, they never really achieve true silence

[FairfieldLife] Texas Teacher Suspended for being an Atheist and a 'Liberal'

2009-02-11 Thread do.rflex
Mr. Mullens, the teacher in question, has resigned. It isn't clear from the news story whether he will be pursuing any legal remedies against the school district. The Superintendent, Lana Comeaux, mentioned in his statement cited below, also resigned under mysterious circumstances last November

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: I could fill *pages and pages* with quotes from Barry's posts fantasizing about how I was stung by his comments, how they made me so angry I was out of control, how I was criticizing him for something because he'd nailed me

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread enlightened_dawn11
so do you honestly think that the majority of people practicing TM have been duped into practicing a watered down half baked sort of meditation technique that really doesn't deliver as promised, and that all of us would be better off shrugging off our brainwashing and going with the Buddhist

[FairfieldLife] Maddow w/Jimmy Carter on Mideast peace

2009-02-11 Thread do.rflex
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJE7GBflf2U

[FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Teacher Suspended for being an Atheist and a 'Liberal'

2009-02-11 Thread shempmcgurk
Mr. Mullens should move to Brazil where atheists, liberals, and homosexuals flourish...and where many U.S. postal workers go to retire. I understand that Brazil has figured out a way to power all their vehicles from the backwash and spittle found in discarded Coca-Cola and Sprite bottles.

Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread Vaj
On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:04 PM, I am the eternal wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: On Feb 11, 2009, at 4:08 PM, I am the eternal wrote: My observation would be, since TM folks aren't taught how to transcend in all of the various Vedantic bodies, only

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Teacher Suspended for being an Atheist and a 'Liberal'

2009-02-11 Thread Bhairitu
And bigot Shemp accuses other posters on this group of being racist? shempmcgurk wrote: Mr. Mullens should move to Brazil where atheists, liberals, and homosexuals flourish...and where many U.S. postal workers go to retire. I understand that Brazil has figured out a way to power all their

[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: transcend in all of the various Vedantic bodies, only the mental one, they never really achieve true silence in the yogic sense, just a blank thoughtless space and some karmic kundalini. Jnanic shakti seems sadly absent.

[FairfieldLife] ‘‘Shallow preludes’’: TM, Breath Suspen sion and Transcendental Consciousness

2009-02-11 Thread Vaj
87 Problem Words: ‘‘Pure Consciousness’’; ‘‘Being’’; ‘‘Cosmic’’ The question really is not to define the fact—for we cannot do that— but to get at and experience it. Edward Carpenter (1844–1929)1 A word is a word. An experience is an experience. Both are different. S. Shigematsu Kobori-Roshi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where are the Buddhists?

2009-02-11 Thread Kirk
Yeah, the life is suffering thing. It's a fucking shitload to swallow. Now that I started meditating at fifteen I know I could never eat enough shit to keep me alive. But having considered that I am merely fertilizer I know a truth too great to impart. Oh you know I mentioned tantra and therein

[FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Teacher Suspended for being an Atheist and a 'Liberal'

2009-02-11 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: And bigot Shemp accuses other posters on this group of being racist? Magoo is lashing out because his wingnut world has collapsed around him. And what's left of his dwindling numbers of right wingers is being lead by the likes

[FairfieldLife] Enlightenment means literally aligning...

2009-02-11 Thread Robert
Enlightenment means literally aligning to the Energy of my Source. And genius is only about focusing. Law of Attraction takes care of everything else. Physical humans often want to make enlightenment about finding some process and moving through the process that has been pre-described. But true

Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )

2009-02-11 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:10 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: transcend in all of the various Vedantic bodies, only the mental one, they never really achieve true silence in the yogic sense, just a blank

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2009-02-11 Thread yifuxero
--http://www.kheper.net/topics/topics.htm - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Feb 07 00:00:00 2009 End Date (UTC): Sat Feb 14 00:00:00 2009 728 messages as of (UTC) Thu Feb

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2009-02-11 Thread FFL PostCount
Non sequitur On 2/11/09, yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com wrote: --http://www.kheper.net/topics/topics.htm - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Feb 07 00:00:00

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmacarya and O?

2009-02-11 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:30 PM, sparaig wrote: Is there a money-back guarantee if it doesn't? Not that I know of. When I was younger, I used to brag about my prowess in bed and got laid regularly. Few were

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