As far as I'm concerned it never had a charismatic leader. Marshy's woolly,
illogical and ignorant lecturing style always left me cold. Corporation is a
good word for it though. As it sells both a product and a belief system that
makes that product seem a lot more valuable than it actually is.
Please can we ago back to 50 posts a week, it's for your sanity as much as
everybody elses
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
Note the phrase, in Robin's cult, as if it were established fact that he has
a cult. He doesn't, of course. But Share didn't choose her
Does anyone remember my prediction, about how a certain obsessive and her
brown-nosing buddy would continue to obsess over Judy getting caught in a lie,
and as a result subject this place to dozens of their mono-topical gotta get
even posts?
The fun thing is that they can't blame it on me
During our Mayamovies session this morning, I showed this 1956 Oscar-winning
classic to Maya and she loved it so much that she demanded to see it twice. I
didn't complain, because after all it is 34 minutes of some of the most
gorgeous footage of Paris ever, in glorious Technicolor. Enjoy, and
I concur. I find it difficult to wade through all this
pig-muck and cattle manure to find an odd gem or two.
The 50 post limit is got to be back. This group is once
again turning anarchist as it was years ago.
BTW, how's the weather in old blighty?
---Salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
This should come as no surprise to those who equate religion with repression,
and repression with encouraging the very behavior it claims to be suppressing.
On the other hand, most long-term TB TMers are such sexless dweebs that they
probably feel guilty for looking at photos of ice cream on
India, once a major civilizational and economic power that suffered centuries
of decline, is now newly resurgent in business, geopolitics and culture.
However, a powerful counterforce within the American Academy is systematically
undermining core icons and ideals of Indic Culture and thought.
Nabby will claim this is a troll post because it mentions the dreaded word
Buddhist in the title. Others can just enjoy, and compare these places of
worship to the butt-ugly Fairfield domes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/15/buddhist-cave-temples_n_4775101.html
http://gizmodo.com/the-worlds-largest-solar-plant-started-creating-electr-1521998493?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebookutm_source=gizmodo_facebookutm_medium=socialflow
Alchohol, Tobacco, Plastic, Paper companies campaigned and
got Cannabis weed banned
Armchair with a view
Rite of passage
KRISH ASHOK
What connects marijuana, diamonds and baby hair?
For most of human history, the annual, dioecious
(non-hermaphrodite) flowering herb of the genus Cannabis was
Looks damp and uncomfy. I'll prefer a Dome anytime over this place of worship
to someone who claimed Nirvana was the final goal ;-)
Who wants to meditate in a snake-pit ?
Alchohol, Tobacco, Plastic, Paper companies campaigned and
got Cannabis weed banned
Armchair with a view
Rite of passage
KRISH ASHOK
What connects marijuana, diamonds and baby hair?
For most of human history, the annual, dioecious
(non-hermaphrodite) flowering herb of the genus Cannabis was
turq, this is beautiful and I think the Domes are beautiful too, especially on
the inside. The wood is a warm shade of light yellow and there are windows all
around so lots of natural light.
On Sunday, February 16, 2014 5:31 AM, turquoi...@yahoo.com
turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Nabby
Amazing place and really good photo's, would love to visit but they need some
comfy foam and a few blankets about the place if they want me to meditate
there!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:
Nabby will claim this is a troll post because it mentions the dreaded word
I seem to have scared the piss out of Barry by pointing out how he's been lying
about never reading my posts. Now the only way he can comment on them is to
respond to someone else's comment on a post of mine quoting me, and he has to
be careful not to mention anything else I've said. Oh, and he
I think one has to use Firebug inspect element edit the
pic html before posting pics in firefox.
http://www.ustr.gov/about-us/press-office/press-releases/2013/february/us-challenges-india-restrictions-solar
Wow, I hope you don't me saying this, but this is the nicest post we've had in
about six months. And it sounds like more than witnessing. I say that because
as I've always understood it, the transcendental field is without attributes.
It is when we experience it that it becomes blissful. But
Looking back, I think many of the things you say are true. And it sounds like
we still both have friends in the TMO who still have the frame of mind you
refer to.
But what were some of the positives you took from it, if you don't mind me
asking?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
I won't weigh in on the Subject question because...uh...Duh. Nothing to
discuss. Done deal.
What still amuses me are some of the direct contradictions that the cultists
managed to embrace, and in some cases still embrace. I'm talking about
self-contradictory teachings, which almost every TMer
Yes, I used to get a lot of things like that. A text book progression of
enlightened states as espoused by Marshy. Really amazingly nice and it
convinced me I was going to get there but it all stopped, maybe it will start
up again but I doubt it and it doesn't even interest me any more, it's
that's cause you aren't taking amrit, having yagyas done and practicing TMSP as
many hours as possible in a group up in Skelmersdale
On Sun, 2/16/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Drinking Vedic Coffee and
I think he enjoys trolling, baiting and getting stalked.
You enjoy correcting, fighting, nitpicking and getting
people to task.
He insists that he doesn't read your posts. You insist that
you hold no grudge against him.
Again, Yin and Yang.
--- authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
I seem to
I'm thinking of some of the other flashy experiences that have been related
here periodically.
Bob Price related one, sometime ago. MJ related one recently. In both cases
they were more or less just footnotes, and then life moved on. But they also
seemed to have left their mark and a
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
As far as I'm concerned it never had a charismatic leader. Marshy's woolly,
illogical and ignorant lecturing style always left me cold. Corporation is a
good word for it though. As it sells both a product and a belief
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Please can we ago back to 50 posts a week, it's for your sanity as much as
everybody elses
I asked for the post limit shortly before Christmas but I was poo-pooed and
shot down. I thought I, too, was going to go
The wise man has long ears and a short tongue. - Anonymous
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't mess with old men, they didn't get old by being stupid. - Will
Rogers
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone
I agree with some of the things I believe Barry has said - that we are all part
of this cosmic soup, and the entire infinite or nearly infinite range of
experiences are available to us. The kinds of things Sal relates are available
to all of us at anytime, but most of us aren't aware of it.
Another KEY piece of advice, Share -- DON'T open any emails from Africa, esp.
Nigeria - no doubt you'll mortgage your parents house, if you do.:-)
Okay, no charismatic leader no cult. It is just an organization. So by more
scholarly definition evidently your feelings around the TM movement is that TM
never quite rose up to be a cult, but was/is a sect. No charismatic leader,
no cult. It evidently was a movement that you were part of,
Hmmm - You probably don't want Barry's cynicism to rub off on you.
As far as the long time habit, and progression, of expanding one's awareness,
through meditation, it has nothing to do with achieving signposts, or escaping
this world, or acting like either an asshole or a saint. It is simply
Fascinating, Salyavin. That is remarkably similar--virtually identical--to how
Robin described his own exprience. Except for him, for whatever reason, it
lasted for over a decade, and he spent 25 years working to get rid of it
because of how ultimately destructive it had proved to be.
At
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The latest storms were overkill, though, as Ms. Meacham tried to cope with
a houseful of restless children, layers of ice on the roads and makeup
school days on the horizon. My friends have their wine and flashlights and
candles, she says. I have my Xanax filled.
'Storms
The interesting part of the Huffington Post link are the quotes of the top
scientists at the bottom on their take on God.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:
This should come as no surprise to those who equate religion with repression,
and repression with encouraging
Well, possibly for some folks still within TM it could still be somewhat
cult-like serving around the Prime Minister for instance. Life at that level
seems still a little like being in the circle of taking your tea with a Joe
Stalin. However, they are only a very small element in what is the
Actually what I insist is that holding a grudge is not an appropriate phrase
to describe my attitude toward Barry, because his offenses have been ongoing.
That doesn't mean I don't think he's a lying scumbag, however.
I think he enjoys trolling, baiting and getting stalked.
You enjoy
Let's have a closer look at this post of Barry's from Friday; I didn't feel
like bothering to fisk it at the time::
See what I mean about challenging her projected image driving her crazy? :-)
Awfully mild version of crazy, I'd say. More like annoyed, if even that.
Barry's pissed that I
On 2/15/2014 11:50 AM, jchwe...@gmail.com wrote:
It was a type of psychological/emotional rape that Knapp exacted upon
more than one person.
Thanks for the information about Knapp. We've been discussing this
almost endlessly for months. We just got rid of one therapist who came
to this
Dear Dear Awoelflebate and friends, to the 50 post limit I have offered my help
with moderating FFL many times and everyone is clearly scared of me taking care
of things here. I don't understand people's unfriendliness to my offers. Try
as I might to be charismatic here and take some better
Still believe in the four states of consciousness?
While the waker, dreamer, and deep sleeper as well as the worlds they appear
to inhabit continuously shuffle in and out of existence, assiduous inquiry does
reveal a “fourth factor,” as it is called in the Mandukya Upanishad, that
remains a
Carol, I'm not sure you've been around FFL long enough to know that Richard is
a troll and says all kinds of things that aren't true or are wildly distorted,
as he does in this post. If you ever have a question about the veracity of
something he posts, ask one of the regulars.
Thanks for
On 2/15/2014 11:50 AM, jchwe...@gmail.com wrote:
After the news sank in, I realized I felt like I just wanted to take a
shower and wash it all off.
That's what it feels like alright - except we can't seem to get out of
the cesspool. Almost every post sent here goes to shit in a matter on
When I read Richard's post just now, I thought it might be sarcasm? (Or are you
serious Richard?)
I don't read here often these days. When Yahoo changed format...well...I don't
like this new format. I know things take getting used to, but still, I don't
like it.
Thanks Judy for the input.
On 2/15/2014 11:50 AM, jchwe...@gmail.com wrote:
One of Knapp's former victims responded..And now we heal.
Well, if the post-trappers and mental therapists would stop trying to
push our buttons and trying to take over FFL and trying to mentally rape
our minds; if they would stop making up
There's actually a big cave right near Dubuque they could use. Trouble is, it's
not quite as picturesque:
http://digitaldubuque.com/crystal_lake_cave/
http://digitaldubuque.com/crystal_lake_cave/
Nabby will claim this is a troll post because it mentions the dreaded word
Buddhist in the
On 2/15/2014 7:07 PM, Share Long wrote:
I also want to make the point that Emily posted some definitions of
the term psychological rape so again, I'm quite sure that no one on
FFL thought that I coined the term.
The term psychological rape is frequently used in cult awareness
discussion
Richard, I admit that your writing style delights me. Even when I don't agree
with the content! Go figure!
It's just that you almost always sound light hearted about all this stuff. And
I thoroughly enjoy how you skip from one topic to the other. Those funny combo
help me be more light hearted
It sounds like you are serious Richard...but again, I may be misunderstanding
and it may be sarcasm. I don't know this board well enough to have any input
on the state of the FFL...nor is it something I have energy to investigate.
In the past, I've been labeled a troll on FFL by at least one
oy! major claustrophobia!
On Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:17 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
There's actually a big cave right near Dubuque they could use. Trouble is, it's
not quite as picturesque:
http://digitaldubuque.com/crystal_lake_cave/
Nabby will claim
Actually, contradiction and bait-and-switch are both misnomers in this
case. With a classic bait-and-switch, they won't sell you what they were
promoting, but only something more expensive. And TM is all you need isn't
contradicted by the fact that there are lots of other offerings. The issue
Share to the defense! guffaw
Richard, I admit that your writing style delights me. Even when I don't
agree with the content! Go figure! It's just that you almost always sound light
hearted about all this stuff. And I thoroughly enjoy how you skip from one
topic to the other. Those funny
Most of those pics look like someone trying to pull their shoe loose from a
huge wad of chewing gum.
oy! major claustrophobia!
There's actually a big cave right near Dubuque they could use. Trouble is,
it's not quite as picturesque:
http://digitaldubuque.com/crystal_lake_cave/
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:
And like everyone else in the world they wanted everyone else to corroborate
their reality so they made a big deal out of it and created all the sacred
books of the Hindoos that everybody was supposed to embrace if they were smart.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:
I agree with some of the things I believe Barry has said - that we are all
part of this cosmic soup, and the entire infinite or nearly infinite range of
experiences are available to us. The kinds of things Sal relates are available
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:
I agree with some of the things I believe Barry has said - that we are all
part of this cosmic soup, and the entire infinite or nearly infinite range of
experiences are available to us. The kinds of things Sal relates are
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Okay, no charismatic leader no cult. It is just an organization. So by more
scholarly definition evidently your feelings around the TM movement is that TM
never quite rose up to be a cult, but was/is a sect. No charismatic
On 2/15/2014 10:04 AM, jchwe...@gmail.com wrote:
Knapp was my former cult-recovery therapist from around July, 2008,
until August, 2010.
That's what I'm talking about! One of these therapists trolled to FFL
recently and tried to recruit some new members to his Cult of Robin. He
apparently
Yes it did sound familiar to Robin, I didn't have any rolling about on the
floor crying. I was just sitting at my desk looking at a paper clip, suddenly I
noticed a fingerprint on the metal and then I saw a rainbow in the oil of my
fingerprint. And then everything changed, very real and
Yesterday we saw this cat sleeping on a porch:
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On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
Yesterday we went to this place:
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The San Antonio Stock Show and Rodeo
http://www.sarodeo.com/
[image: Inline image 2]
The Jerks At Work - Will Rigby - Paradoxaholic album
http://youtu.be/xf0SFX3IW94
[image: Inline image 1]
Yeah the jerks at work want genuflection from me
I'm all booked up but my middle finger might be free...
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
[image:
I don't know if it's random brain activity or sudden increase in brain
activity or coherence if you like, but it seems like an improvement unlike
other altered brain states which are mostly awful. Even the positive sounding
ones like the upturn of bipolar disorder leave you less able to get
On 2/15/2014 8:43 PM, jchwe...@gmail.com wrote:
Judy...that is correct. there was no sexual or romantic relationship
between Knapp I.
Neither I am aware of any stories regarding sexual abuse and Knapp.
Thanks for all the information. Maybe that impostor Michael Jackson
was just trolling
The 50 post limit was stupid. Alex doesn't want to deal with it. It's
no problem to ignore the riff raff if you read the group with an email
client like Thunderbird. Grown ups don't need no stinkin' post limit.
On 02/16/2014 02:15 AM, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com wrote:
I concur. I find it
http://thenewobserver.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/therapy_short.pdf
http://thenewobserver.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/therapy_short.pdf
Psychotherapy and counseling are growth industries. The BBC for example finds it
necessary to frequently add after stories involving any degree of
SECURITY BELIEFS
Some of us may recall the author Arthur C. Clarke's three laws of prediction:
When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible,
he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he
is very probably wrong.
The only way
But you do seem to understand how someone who had that experience and had it
stick would want to do what he or she could to share it with others, help
them get there as well. Not really a matter of ego per se.
On the other hand, I can understand how being in that state and having others
Original Sin vs Ancestral Sin Another point of theological contention according
to some Orthodox theologians is the Roman Catholic teachings on Original Sin.
Orthodox theologians trace this position to having its roots in the works of
Saint Augustine. Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy and
On 2/16/2014 10:06 AM, jchwe...@gmail.com wrote:
Or are you serious Richard?
Seriously, I feel like I just got mind-fucked again today. It's almost
to the point that the button-pushers have taken over the whole
newsgroup. All we want to do is meditate twice a day, chat with a few
TMers, and
For me, there is consciousness, but it is not a state. It can be intellectually
and roughly catagorised as having three basic sequential characteristics:
sleeping, dreaming, and waking. Waking contains the whole world we call the
universe, which includes the mind which in thinking mode
On 2/16/2014 12:15 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
The Roman Catholic Church did not accept all of Augustine's ideas...
So, where is the part about man becoming God in the Eastern Orthdoxy?
This is hillarious Willy. You always give the knockout punch
and seal the argument.
---WillyTex punditster@... wrote:
Seriously, I feel like I just got mind-fucked again today. It's almost to the
point that the button-pushers have taken over the whole newsgroup. All we want
to do is
For me, certain visual or auditory experiences came and went before strong
witnessing developed, which then went away for about three decades, buy then
eventually returned in a new guise and a new understanding and that was stable
for a few years and then became unstable again without being
Comments below...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
But you do seem to understand how someone who had that experience and had it
stick would want to do what he or she could to share it with others, help
them get there as well. Not really a matter of ego per se.
I
On 2/16/2014 9:10 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
Along comes Marshy, fanatic Hindoo, and he used the playbook to make a
nice living for himself.
This message feels like a mind-fuck posted by a button-pushing troll
that doesn't like Hindus or Hindu Pundits. Why shouldn't Hindus be able
to make
See?, this is exactly the reason you are seen as a grudge
holder here.
Was there any need to make that post? Excessive posts clog
up the bandwidth and slow down data traffic.
---authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
Share to the defense! guffaw
Richard, I admit that your writing style
Interesting how you can see the security beliefs in the article that Jason (I
think) posted about Hameroff's ideas about quantum consciousness. Quanta have
really become the get out clause of the modern world, probably because it's not
well understood and is often a bit weird. It's no excuse
I wonder if I'll ever get interested in it again. I used to have such a hunger
for enlightenment but not now, I just enjoy meditating for it's own sake and do
different types now according to what I want to achieve.
One thing that makes me wonder is: what if you learn TM because you believe
In considering how the Wikipedia entry for quantum defines 'quantum' one
wonders how it could be stretched to attempt to explain so many odd ideas
QUANTUM: In physics, a quantum is the minimum amount of any physical entity
involved in an interaction. Behind this, one finds the fundamental
I'm convinced you can categorise these different states into the boxes as
described by Marshy, but is that because my experiences were influenced by his
clear descriptions. If I'd never read the book or seen the lecture, would I
have had the experiences in the same order in the same way?
On 2/16/2014 7:42 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
Let's take one of the earliest teachings: TM is all you need.
Is there a better way?
One of the earliest teachings of MMY was TM is what works. In TM, you
get only one single bija mantra for meditation - that's all you need to
realize your full
Sheesh, that had nothing to do with any grudge. I was just poking fun at her
insatiable urge to pander. That's not necessary either, certainly not with
Richard. Nor was this post of yours, for that matter!
Plus which, unless you're on dial-up and not broadband, I seriously doubt that
data
On 2/16/2014 1:31 PM, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com wrote:
See?, this is exactly the reason you are seen as a grudge
holder here.
Was there any need to make that post? Excessive posts clog
up the bandwidth and slow down data traffic.
---authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
Share to the defense! guffaw
Especially when you consider the unlikelihood of quantum events stacking up or
meaning something. According to my book, a subatomic particle can be anywhere
in the universe at any time but the chances of finding a single electron 1cm
away from where it's most likely to be are so small you'd
Richard, I thought Judy was an editor. Are you telling us she's really a
computer repair man?! Go figure!
On Sunday, February 16, 2014 2:12 PM, Richard J. Williams
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/16/2014 1:31 PM, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com wrote:
See?, this is exactly the reason you are
Well, during that thirty year period I just mostly lost interest in spiritual
things. I became more interested in outside things. When experiences returned,
I got intensely interested again, but only because of a need to find an
intellectual understanding for what happened. Once an
Very interesting speculations, thank you. You could well be right on many if
not all of them. I don't really have anything to add, except a couple of
caveats:
First, as far as Robin was concerned, he was teaching primarily TM initiators,
who all had Maharishi's techniques under their belts.
Another thing about the Penrose/Hammeroff theory, as Stenger observed, is that
the microtubules that these quantum events are supposed to cohere in are too
large for the particles to communicate or stack up. And even if they did the
brain is too hot to allow it, quantum freakiness is
On 2/16/2014 12:59 PM, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com wrote:
You always give the knockout punch
and seal the argument.
So, let's review what we know:
John Knapp got his therapist license revoked for unprofessional behavior
with more than one client. One of his clients said she felt like she had
been
Yeah, that is because Unity Consciousness is still Unity, in terms of the Self;
a person's 'owned' universality. It isn't full enlightenment. Brahman, where
the identity dissolves, is actual enlightenment. All the seven states, in MMY's
early model (before he began in the 80's talking about
On 2/16/2014 2:38 PM, Share Long wrote:
Are you telling us she's really a computer repair man?
Probably a computer nerd - rumor has it that Judy is pretty savvy
about computers and computer software.
The newest contributors to JK's TM-Free blog are the alias Michael H.
Jackson and the Masked
I don't think she can help herself. It's just a rut that I think she is
totally unaware of at this point that she just falls into time and time again.
Well, maybe falls into is not the right way to describe it. (-:
(and yes, others do it, including me, but maybe it's not the main feature
Xeno,
Regarding Asimov's second point, the following existential sentence is
apparently true: HE DEAD (with emphasis on the stretched vowels).
Religion started when the first scoundrel met the first fool. -Voltaire
Salyavin,
You have to remember that a theory is not a proven scientific fact. Penrose
or Hammeroff can talk quantum theories until the cows come home. But they
haven't proved a thing.
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you
do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will
understand why I dismiss yours. Stephen Roberts
That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without
evidence.
Christopher Hitchens
I love that question, and its one that I've increasingly asked myself,
especially since I've been posting here over the years.
And that is one reason I think the spiritual, i.e. Hindu, Vedic literature is
helpful. Yes, I know that is something Maharishi would say.
Now, for me, there is
On 2/16/2014 9:57 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
*Carol, I'm not sure you've been around FFL long enough to know that
Richard is a troll and says all kinds of things that aren't true or
are wildly distorted, as he does in this post. If you ever have a
question about the veracity of something
Not sure what you mean by ended up. Could you explain?
A lot of what he was doing, apparently, was purging himself of what he called
his secret infirmities--presumably personality flaws he hadn't been aware
of--that he believed were responsible for things going so wrong. Or rather, as
he saw
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