[FairfieldLife] Re: "There is no God"

It is the tradition in western civilization as influenced by the Greek and Judeo-Christian culture to use human rational thought to prove truths in philosophy and thinking. It is a way or another way to describe "bliss" or pure consciousness in vedic thought. It was part of Osho's

[FairfieldLife] Re: "There is no God"

Thx, whether speculation or not, his assertion is that there is no "Creator" God who creates the universe and who is an all-powerful Personality like the Christian Yahweh or like Krishna. Then, he goes on to say that in his opinion, one should do away with the the term "God", since it implies

[FairfieldLife] Re: "There is no God"

Osho was speculating. He really did not know what he was saying. But can he return back from the dead and tell his disciples that he was right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : 4 min lecture by OSHO: "There is no God"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary, gimmel, dalet (god, gad) :D

Trump wins, Hillary steals? HILLARY STEALS THIS ELECTION, 2016 LOOKS GRIM. BIBLE CODE REVEALS MORE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmqpvcMFmzM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmqpvcMFmzM HILLARY STEALS THIS ELECTION, 2016 LOOKS ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmqpvcMFmzM SO YOU

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary, gimmel, dalet (god, gad) :D

Well, I guess using his method, one find almost anything one wants??

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It I can't find any other newsource that quotes him

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It

The answer lies on the website, itself: http://www.newslo.com/about-us/ http://www.newslo.com/about-us/ JUST ENOUGH NEWS…Newslo is the first hybrid News/Satire platform on the web. Readers come to us for a unique brand of entertainment and information that is enhanced by features like

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It

with alternative energy technologies, and will reap the economic advantage. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 12:05 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It

I can't find any other newsource that quotes him saying things quite that extreme about God and Jesus and coimate change. THis feels more like something The Onion might write, but you never know. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Senator Rubio: If God Wants

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are 'visions of God' really just temporal lobe epilepsy?

Like trying to find a needle in a haystack, with a bulldozer. Oh well, I suppose it at least gets the silly scientists thinking about God. May they stumble on! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : That's one of the questions posed by this excellent article from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are 'visions of God' really just temporal lobe epilepsy?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : That's one of the questions posed by this excellent article from Salon.com. Heaven is for neuroscience: How the brain creates visions of God

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are 'visions of God' really just temporal lobe epilepsy?

hey turq and Ann, yes, this is a wonderful article, if a bit biased. I like the point at the end that only Joan of Arc could of rallied the French. And it seems that Dostoevsky still could write acclimed novels which probably have enriched the lives of some people. So...regardless of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are 'visions of God' really just temporal lobe epilepsy?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : hey turq and Ann, yes, this is a wonderful article, if a bit biased. I like the point at the end that only Joan of Arc could of rallied the French. And it seems that Dostoevsky still could write acclimed novels which probably

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are 'visions of God' really just temporal lobe epilepsy?

From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : hey turq and Ann, yes, this is a wonderful article, if a bit biased. I like the point at the end that only Joan of Arc could of rallied the French. And it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are 'visions of God' really just temporal lobe epilepsy?

Barry just hates it when people laugh at his button-pushing attempts. That's why he snipped this from his quote of Ann's post: He was posting this to imply that visionaries or those who have had spiritual or revelatory experiences were most likely diseased in some way. I wonder if he was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are 'visions of God' really just temporal lobe epilepsy?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : hey turq and Ann, yes, this is a wonderful article, if a bit biased. I like the point at the

[FairfieldLife] Re: There is no God.

Why would you believe watermelon? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL4dXUtblg

[FairfieldLife] Re: There is no God.

That was terrific. Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL4dXUtblg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Jesus = to God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I found this paragraph interesting, if not creative.   I am not sure about this.  For one thing, don't Christians take their Jesus to be equal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Jesus = to God

in spirituality mode, I agree with you! Reading Yogananda can be very sweet, uplifting, and convincing. From: Susan wayback71@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Jesus = to God

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Jesus = to God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I found this paragraph interesting, if not creative.   I am not sure

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Jesus = to God

Hm.when you are not in your believing in spirituality mode, what do you think?   From: Susan waybac...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Jesus = to God

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Jesus = to God

: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Jesus = to God   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snip I think Yogananda wrote some long translations and commentary of the Gita from a Christian perspective, explaining the similarities between Hinduism/Gita and Christianity

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Jesus = to God

wayback71@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Jesus = to God  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I found this paragraph interesting, if not creative.  I am

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Jesus = to God

Thank you Susan and Laughinggull.  I appreciate it.   From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 7:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Jesus = to God   --- In FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip The sentence 'For since the self is the individuating existence of a nature, God's presence, which is existence itself, can hold

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip The sentence 'For since the self is the individuating existence of a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

Be yourself.  Seems kinda obvious, huh?   From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:31 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

Aspirin is good for headaches. It really does work. But if you like to suffer, there are ineffective things you can take for a headache. Robin likes really convoluted intellectual stuff with strong emotional overtones. I prefer more simplicity. There is what is called 'you', a body, and there

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

with you (-: PS  Still working on my naughty name... From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Aspirin is good for headaches. It really does work. But if you like to suffer, there are ineffective things you can take for a headache. Robin likes really convoluted intellectual stuff with strong

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

and simply imagine that the Seine is flowing by and Camus and Sartre are at the table with you (-: PS Still working on my naughty name... From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your free

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: I thought you had left Catholic philosophy behind Robin. But then you seem to be bent on destroying the oneness of God in your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: I thought you had left Catholic philosophy behind Robin. But then you seem to be bent on destroying the oneness of God in your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: I thought you had left Catholic philosophy behind Robin. But

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: snip The sentence 'For since the self is the individuating existence of a nature, God's presence, which is existence itself, can hold that self *at its highest quivering stress without absorbing it' seems to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

Well, I guess I will never be an editor. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip The sentence 'For since the self is the individuating existence of a nature, God's presence,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: I thought you had left Catholic philosophy behind Robin. But then you seem to be bent on destroying the oneness of God in your experience. This is needlessly complex, but it is quite intriguing. Hopkins, or a commentator

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happiness is seeing God

.   From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happiness is seeing God --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: Let's take a guess: it's that jolly old

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happiness is seeing God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: Let's take a guess: it's that jolly old medieval saint, Aquinas! Congratulations you are our winner! You have correctly identified the author of the piece. Your prize is: 1.one gallon Lourdes Water

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happiness is seeing God

I didn't win but I would love a signed copy of Brideshead Revisited. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Let's take a guess: it's that jolly old medieval saint, Aquinas!

[FairfieldLife] Re: If you were God, who would you rather have a beer with?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [ Those of you who already are God, please excuse my use of the hypothetical in posing this question. ] Would You rather sit down over a cold brew with a guy or gal who could look at You and Your Creation and laugh

[FairfieldLife] Re: If you were God, who would you rather have a beer with?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [ Those of you who already are God, please excuse my use of the hypothetical in posing this question. ] Would You rather sit down over a cold brew with a guy or gal who could look at You and Your Creation and laugh at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For you Robin - God can only be experienced as first-person ontology

, maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re: [FairfieldLife] For you Robin - God can only be experienced as first-person ontology Dear Ravi, You are so different from me, from all the rest of the persons who post here at FFL, that I hesitate to go beyond what I have already said

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For you Robin - God can only be experienced as first-person ontology

@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:43:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For you Robin - God can only be experienced as first-person ontology Dear Robin, OK fine, if there was anyone who could have stopped The Mad Yogi Inc it would have had to be either you, Bob or Judy. All of you

[FairfieldLife] Re: For you Robin - God can only be experienced as first-person ontology

Re: [FairfieldLife] For you Robin - God can only be experienced as first-person ontology Dear Ravi, You are so different from me, from all the rest of the persons who post here at FFL, that I hesitate to go beyond what I have already said to you in that personal analysis. Because there I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For you Robin - God can only be experienced as first-person ontology

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj9t94fuUTg From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:36:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For you Robin - God can only be experienced as first-person

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Rick Perry's God have something against Texas?

I've never seen such partisan and one sided posting as from this particular poster, it is as if he can only see black and white or is so jaded in his way of thinking that objective thinking is no longer possible. Yes do.rflex is a big idiot - it was probably not wise of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does Rick Perry's God have something against Texas?

political point of view and he's in for a big let down next year. From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 1:35:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does Rick Perry's God have something against Texas

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Rick Perry's God have something against Texas?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote: I've never seen such partisan and one sided posting as from this particular poster, it is as if he can only see black and white or is so jaded in his way of thinking that objective thinking is no longer possible. Yes do.rflex is a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Rick Perry's God have something against Texas?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote: I've never seen such partisan and one sided posting as from this particular poster, it is as if he can only see black and white or is so jaded in his way of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Rick Perry's God have something against Texas?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote: I've never seen such partisan and one sided posting as from this particular poster, it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Rick Perry's God have something against Texas?

do.rflex: Why does God hate Texas? So, it seems that you hate a lot of different groups of people, for no apparent reason. Prejudice against certain group is always wrong, John. You've been taken to task for this on several occasions. You seem to be trying to outdo yourself. Don't you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Rick Perry's God have something against Texas?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: It is prophesied that a leader shall come out of the desert where the fire and heat shall temper his power! Can I get an Amen on that! Life in Lubbock, Texas, taught me two things: One is that God loves you and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Rick Perry's God have something against Texas?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardjwilliamstexas willytex@... wrote: do.rflex: Why does God hate Texas? So, it seems that you hate a lot of different groups of people, for no apparent reason. Prejudice against certain group is always wrong, John. You've been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Rick Perry's God have something against Texas?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: It is prophesied that a leader shall come out of the desert where the fire and heat shall temper his power! Can I get an Amen on that! Life in Lubbock, Texas, taught me two things: One is that God loves you and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Rick Perry's God have something against Texas?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardjwilliamstexas willytex@ wrote: do.rflex: Why does God hate Texas? So, it seems that you hate a lot of different groups of people, for no apparent reason.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternal relationship with God vs Merging with the Absolute

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: Like I said, if somebody (say any Krishna Bhaktis of various stripes - the Hare Krishna Guru, Swami Prakashanand, the fellow below...etc) claims Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, apart from Scriptures, what's the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternal relationship with God vs Merging with the Absolute

Dear yifuxero piece of shit - your nightmare is coming true the Hare Krishnas are coming after you, you can run or hide but they will surely make you Krishna's bitch. Say goodbye to all your stupid posts with links from Google images. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternal relationship with God vs Merging with the Absolute

Is your real name Matlock? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: Nope...I'm familiar with the tricks of these devious Krishna Bhaktis. They state outright (privately), that any tricks whatsoever are legitimate, as long as it results in somebody saying Krishna. Take a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternal relationship with God vs Merging with the Absolute

Your obvious anger and open hostility toward Bhaktis tell much more than anything else about your point of view here, Yifu. It isn't only the Hare Krishnas [whom you apparently despise] that look to 'enlightenment' in terms of a personal relationship with God. Guru Dev's discourses are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternal relationship with God vs Merging with the Absolute

Ravi, I am indeed blessed to be targeted by you, and am now in a select group. Keep up the good work...I have seen you evolve quite a bit since your first posts speaking in the 3-rd person and the like. You seem to be getting smoother... and more settled down, as to your energy field; although

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternal relationship with God vs Merging with the Absolute

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHh9ywmo5AE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHh9ywmo5AE Yifu, this is the category you fall into by diminishing the adherents of Bhagawan. (yea, I know I've posted this before, but it is such a classic) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternal relationship with God vs Merging with the Absolute

Don't let yourself be conned by these Krishna Bhaktis. Krishna is not the Supreme Personality of Godhead. There is no such Personality, and the burden of proof apart from merely quoting Scriptures is on the claimants. Anybody however, is free to set up a dualist, loving relationship with one of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternal relationship with God vs Merging with the Absolute

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: Don't let yourself be conned by these Krishna Bhaktis. Krishna is not the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Nowhere in the interview was that claimed. There is no such Personality, and the burden of proof apart from merely

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternal relationship with God vs Merging with the Absolute

Like I said, if somebody (say any Krishna Bhaktis of various stripes - the Hare Krishna Guru, Swami Prakashanand, the fellow below...etc) claims Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, apart from Scriptures, what's the evidence? The Guru below appears to be more liberal than the Fundie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternal relationship with God vs Merging with the Absolute

Radhanath Swami holds a position on the ISKCON GBC – the governing board of the Hari K's. While what he opines is somewhat less doctrinaire than other members, in truth he can still only spout ISKCON`s brand of Gaudiya theology. His responses are comparable to someone at a high level in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternal relationship with God vs Merging with the Absolute

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: Like I said, if somebody (say any Krishna Bhaktis of various stripes - the Hare Krishna Guru, Swami Prakashanand, the fellow below...etc) claims Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, apart from Scriptures, what's the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternal relationship with God vs Merging with the Absolute

Nope...I'm familiar with the tricks of these devious Krishna Bhaktis. They state outright (privately), that any tricks whatsoever are legitimate, as long as it results in somebody saying Krishna. Take a look at what he's doing pursuant to the previous efforts of the Hare Krishna Guru. ... The

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Grace of God

The Unified Field. Yep, this is interesting. Looks like Maharishi was an old Baptist. Different from modern Southern Baptist doctrine this is what the Primitive Baptists think.1964, that's fabulous. That 'Free Grace', it's there. Everyone is saved already, it is only a matter of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Grace of God

Yep --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: The Grace of God. image.jpeg The Grace of God 29 December 1964, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi speaking to a course at Bad Mergentheim, Germany Question: How do we make the grace of God come to us?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

...what I have been calling lying is indeed pragyaparadh, the mistake of the intellect! It is that part of us that most furiously desires to be *right* -- and yet can never be right while it is trapped in spacetime. Hi Rory - I don't get this. Can you give an example please? What is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: ...what I have been calling lying is indeed pragyaparadh, the mistake of the intellect! It is that part of us that most furiously desires to be *right* -- and yet can never be right while it is trapped in spacetime. whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Hi Rory - I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

Oh OK - got it. Finding false fulfillment in the manipulation of external events to fix the problem, instead of finding a more permanent solution within. This Buddhist monk (Tsetan somebody) was talking about that on one of the BATGAP interviews, and how with the addition of love, anger and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Oh OK - got it. Finding false fulfillment in the manipulation of external events to fix the problem, instead of finding a more permanent solution within. Couldn't it be, instead of an 'either or' and 'as well as'? As

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

Right, I was asking in this case for an example of the pragyaparadh thingie - 'mistake of the intellect', which is somewhat abstract wrt everyday life. I understand it better as a principle or dynamic of life vs. a blueprint for how to act or think. I wouldn't advocate if I were hungry to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Right, I was asking in this case for an example of the pragyaparadh thingie - 'mistake of the intellect', Coincidence, I was just looking up, googling the sankrit term, as I had forgotten it, and came across some

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:22 PM, blusc0ut wrote: a *superimpostion*. (Did anyone ever hear this word by a neo-advaita teacher?) Yes, but it is rather rare. It's usually from Neo-A's who had actual advaita vedanta gurusst... Pretty funny how the Sankrit word Aropa (a-ROPE-uh) is so close to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

Interesting - I like both of those definitions, although they both involve conscious action on the part of the doer. I was seeing pragnyaparadh as one of those Gee I never thought of that type of things, unconscious behavior to blame the 'outside'. A truer mistake, if you will, than

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

Its like maya in vedanta, which makes the stick appear to be a snake, an overlay over reality, a *superimpostion*. (Did anyone ever hear this word by a neo-advaita teacher?) Vaj: Yes, but it is rather rare. Just about everyone on the planet, whether 'neo' or not, knows that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Oh OK - got it. Finding false fulfillment in the manipulation of external events to fix the problem, instead of finding a more permanent solution within. This Buddhist monk (Tsetan somebody) was talking about that on

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: When Rory says we are lying about Reality, is this his way of explaining pragyaparadh, the mistake of the intellect or is he framing it as lying

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

http://www.fantasygallery.net/roberts/art_8_mynewpal.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: When Rory says

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Rory, I am enjoying these dialogues of you and Jim and others a lot. My experience too. I find it fun to have someone else put words to it in a way that I may not be verbal. It is a fun stabilization as this goes along.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: When Rory says we are lying about Reality, is this his way of explaining pragyaparadh, the mistake of the intellect or is he framing it as lying to persuade us that he understands better than anyone why people suffer?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

http://www.startlingart.com/Viewer.asp?ImageSource=fine_artFileName=BeCarefullWhatyouAskFor --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: When Rory says we are lying about Reality, is this his way

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: OK, everybody, I give up! Having already flooded the web with 28 posts, I am going to try to sum up in this one. First, my apologies, Judy, in coming off as hostile and angry to you. I certainly am no stranger to those

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: snip * * * Judy is correct; it is not possible for anyone to counteract the will of God, from Our point of view at any rate. However, it is entirely

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: snip * * * Judy is correct; it is not possible for anyone to counteract the will of God,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: If I don't know the truth experientially--if my experiential reality is of separateness--then you simply cannot legitimately call it a lie. I'm telling the truth about my experiential reality. * * * Yes! Separateness is an

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: If I don't know the truth experientially--if my experiential reality is of separateness--then you simply cannot legitimately call it a lie. I'm telling the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: I disagree. That isn't a lie either, subtle or otherwise. As I said before, it may be a *mistake*, it may be a mistake that causes suffering, but it isn't a lie. In fact, what *would* be a lie would be if I said, Oh, well,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I disagree. That isn't a lie either, subtle or otherwise. As I said before, it may be a *mistake*, it may be a mistake that causes suffering, but it

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

Rory wrote: OK. Perfection aside, how about the thought, It must be OK for this terrible suffering to BE, because it IS in this moment? authfriend jstein@... wrote: That would be an utterly irrelevant thought for me. The relevant thought would be, This terrible suffering should not

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

To me this is one of those discussions which IMHO can't actually be resolved.People who are awake' will experience reality ,whatever the hell that is :), as non dual, people who are notawake will experience reality as separate from the self, I think the mistake is thinking that one state is

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@... wrote: To me this is one of those discussions which IMHO can't actually be resolved.People who are awake' will experience reality ,whatever the hell that is :), as non dual, people who are notawake will experience reality as

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