[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > *Cult: a religion without political influence. Tom Wolfe. Love this. Tom always had a way with words. TM (unlike Catholicism, Judaism, and Hinduism in India) never had any political influence, so they went instead for "celebrity infl

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-20 Thread seventhray27
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > Oh well hello there Salivating puppy, His Holiness and King Baby, MJ processing is well and good. But he is accusing TM of masterminding Steubenville rape and Penis snatching incidents in Africa, LOL..does that sound rational to yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-20 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > Oh well hello there Salivating puppy, His Holiness and King Baby, MJ > processing is well and good. But he is accusing TM of masterminding > Steubenville rape and Penis snatching incidents in Africa, LOL..does that > sound ration

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-20 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Oh well hello there Salivating puppy, His Holiness and King Baby, MJ processing is well and good. But he is accusing TM of masterminding Steubenville rape and Penis snatching incidents in Africa, LOL..does that sound rational to you guys? On Mar 20, 2013, at 10:11 AM, "curtisdeltablues" wrote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-20 Thread Ravi Chivukula
LOL..sounds good dear Steve, I'm especially glad that conversations with Devi are allowed. On Mar 20, 2013, at 5:07 AM, "seventhray27" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > wrote: > > > Yes you are amazing Steve - one of a kind. A dramatic breakthrough because

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: (snip) > he's angry because he's realised he got duped by a > cult* and is directing his feeling of being had by > a con man into anger at the scam he willingly went > along with. Michael's problem, as I see it, is that in his anger he te

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: I really enjoyed this post Salyavin. Especially your compassionate description of the process of leaving a group like TM and understanding what MJ is processing. Humor is the balm that makes it all go easier. Nice one. > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-20 Thread feste37
Not a word you wrote is relevant to anything I wrote. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > Unfortunately, in his zeal to denounce TM, MJ has become > > a bigot. He attacks Crowley simply because she is a TMer

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-20 Thread seventhray27
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > Yes you are amazing Steve - one of a kind. A dramatic breakthrough because > of you - it's too overwhelming, I may have to be silent for the whole week > to understand all the implications of this painful lesson. Ravi, I want to

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-20 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote > > Unfortunately, in his zeal to denounce TM, MJ has become a bigot. He > > attacks Crowley simply because she is a TMer. Is that any better than > > attacking someone for being a Cat

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > Unfortunately, in his zeal to denounce TM, MJ has become > a bigot. He attacks Crowley simply because she is a TMer. You mean sorta like the way that some people here are defending her just because she is a TMer? :-) Never get betwee

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
other post > has nothing to do with 1950's - Jesus you people are beyond hope - its no > wonder Turq cusses > > > > > > > > you out from time to time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your attitude seems to be - "Oh

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > Every exchange like this just reinforces my belief that long > > > term TM makes one

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > (snip) > > > It has been suggested here, that a person does not have full > > > brain development until t

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson > > wrote: > > > > > > And what do you consider whining about the effects of a relatively > > > light sentence h

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread authfriend
27;d say their worst crime was bad judgement. It wasn't cut out of the report. Not sure what you're talking about. > From: authfriend > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:44 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars > &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread feste37
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > Every exchange like this just reinforces my belief that long > > term TM makes ones brain turn into mush and removes the > > ability to think clearly. > > Right,

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread seventhray27
- could Crowley not have used her TM > > > > > > > enhanced Creative Intelligence to say "Hey what are you doing > > > > > > > Poppy!?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The standard of conduct I was referring

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread Share Long
ement.    From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Every exchange like this just reinforces my belief that long > term

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Yeah all this just reiterates that MJ may be a nice guy but he is totally idiotic, emotionally stunted, delusional even to use this incredibly distressing, painful rape incident - complex in its conception and implications to peddle his anti-TM paranoia. He's definitely crossed all limits here.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
t; > > Poppy!?! > > > > > > > > > > > > The standard of conduct I was referring to in my other post has > > > > > > nothing to do with 1950's - Jesus you people are beyond hope - its > > > > > > no wonder Turq cusses > > > > > > you out from time to time. > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Every exchange like this just reinforces my belief that long > term TM makes ones brain turn into mush and removes the > ability to think clearly. Right, Michael, you're obviously the clear-thinking one here. Too bad you haven't bee

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread seventhray27
t; > Poppy Harlow, and legal expert Paul Callan all did their very best to > > > > > focus solely on the guilty verdict's repercussions on the two rapists. > > > > > There's next to no coverage of the girl who was brutally raped; instead, > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
; > Take a look at what the non-TM world thinks of this crap: > > > > > > > > "CNN's unconscionable coverage of the Steubenville Rape Case verdict is > > > > pissing everyone off. Newscaster Candy Crowley, general correspondent > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > > > It has been suggested here, that a person does not have full brain > > > development until they are 25. And

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread seventhray27
a balanced story. Crowley herself is the single mom of two teenaged boys but nonetheless I thought her comments were mostly objective given what she was commenting on, meaning the less objective angles taken by the reporter and the expert. In any case, I think for some on FFL it's damned if you do an

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: (snip) > > It has been suggested here, that a person does not have full > > brain development until they are 25. And I think the part of > > the brain that is not fully develo

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread seventhray27
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@ wrote: > > It has been suggested here, that a person does not have full brain > > development until they are 25. And I think the part of the brain > > that is not ful

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
lives are completely ruined from this > > one little indiscretion. Isn't it a shame how they suffer?" > > > > http://jezebel.com/5991018/heres-what-cnn-shouldve-said-about-the-steubenville-rape-case > > > > > > > > > > ___

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > > It has been suggested here, that a person does not have full brain > > development until they are 25. And I think the part of the brain > > that is not fully develop

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > It has been suggested here, that a person does not have full brain > development until they are 25. And I think the part of the brain > that is not fully developed, IIRC is that part which evaluates the > future consequences of our a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread seventhray27
y suffer?" > > http://jezebel.com/5991018/heres-what-cnn-shouldve-said-about-the-steube\ nville-rape-case > > > > > ____________ > From: Share Long sharelong60@... > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Se

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars to Michael J

2013-03-19 Thread Share Long
being pissed off, my tendency is to question that thinking and to remind myself that probably a lot of people in the Nazi world were pissed off by Jews and gypsies.   From: Michael Jackson To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson > wrote: > > > > And what do you consider whining about the effects of a relatively > > light sentence handed down on two punks who abused an unconscious > > girl? > > It has be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread Michael Jackson
his one little indiscretion. Isn't it a shame how they suffer?" http://jezebel.com/5991018/heres-what-cnn-shouldve-said-about-the-steubenville-rape-case From: Share Long To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:40

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > > Commenting as I go along > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long > wrote: > > > > Thank you for this balanced view, Steve. It helped me > > clarify my own thoughts and feelings about it. Isn't it > > usually the news direc

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread seventhray27
en it's because you're afraid of angering Oprah (-:Making me smile here Share. I can always use a smile. (-: > > > > > > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:11

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread Share Long
claims to be.  But if you are successful and do TM and promote it, then it's because you're afraid of angering Oprah (-:       From: seventhray27 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife]

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread seventhray27
ot been much progress in women's rights. But likely these types of incidents move cultures in that direction. > > From: feste37 feste37@... > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:48 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread Michael Jackson
of behavior than poor non-TM'ers. Now here is a subject for discussion on FFL and I have probably posted out. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars  

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread feste37
in the same geographical area, you > continue to embrace fantasy as reality. > > > > > > From: feste37 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:24 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its R

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-19 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Candy Crowley Oozes Sympathy for Steubenville Rapists > http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/candy-crowley-oozes-sympathy-steubenville-r > Two-Year-Old Onion Story Perfectly Predicted CNN's Shocking Steubenville Rape Trial Coverage

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-18 Thread seventhray27
fe@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:24 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars > > > Â > Only an idiot would use this to take a swipe at TM. Time to grow up, MJ. I watched it. She is not "oozing sympathy." There's nothing wrong with what

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-18 Thread Michael Jackson
phical area, you continue to embrace fantasy as reality. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars   Only an idiot would use this to take a swipe at TM. Time to g

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-18 Thread seventhray27
Keep talking Michael. You're making a strong case, but not the one you think. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Candy Crowley Oozes Sympathy for Steubenville Rapists > http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/candy-crowley-oozes-sympathy-steubenvil\ le-r > > Candy Crowle

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars

2013-03-18 Thread feste37
Only an idiot would use this to take a swipe at TM. Time to grow up, MJ. I watched it. She is not "oozing sympathy." There's nothing wrong with what she says. She's pursuing the story, that's all. The youth of the defendants, and what will happen to them, is part of that story. --- In Fairfie

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-03-02 Thread Carol
re special by association who love > being around the guru - guru has ego fits and acts out, but followers think > it is guru doing something to break followers boundaries, and so it goes. > > > > > From: Carol > To: FairfieldLife@y

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-03-02 Thread Michael Jackson
ry 26, 2013 9:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted   Thanks for sharing Michael. I received my mantra in 1975 in Hickory, NC, and volunteered at the TM Center there. (I was 16 years old.) Since you mention NC and Heavenly Mountain (whi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-03-02 Thread Michael Jackson
I already did, in detail - go back and read the older posts. From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 3:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted  

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted - to Doc

2013-03-01 Thread doctordumbass
Its just a genetic thing, I think, though my meditation and always being very active helped. Yeah, my dad also pecked (and managed to avoid computers altogether).:-) My career involved technical training, primarily focused on curriculum design and development, in tech, and industrial environme

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted - to Doc

2013-03-01 Thread Carol
PS: Great about your heart rate! Mine seems to stay high, in the 70s and 80s even at rest. I wonder if that is because of all the simulants I took recreationally and later for medicinal purposes. I just hope my ticker has lots of ticks left...at least until I can thruhike the Appalachian Trail.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-28 Thread seventhray27
On the c0ntrary, I think it would be a good place to experience PeeC --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ > wrote: > > > > Oh no!! The "favorite cafe" revealed! regarding writing that stinks...> > > > > Always a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted - to Doc

2013-02-28 Thread doctordumbass
I'd enjoy hearing that if you care to share it. I flashed through the link to HeartMath, and there is some great stuff in there, will return for a larger meal later - liked the change in perspective, from the traditional approach, brain impulses influencing the heart, to the heart's influence, c

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted - to Doc

2013-02-28 Thread Carol
Here's one link to HeartMath. http://www.heartmath.org/research/science-of-the-heart/introduction.html There is a story, of course, as to how I 'chanced' upon HeartMath's work in the early 2000s as I perused the (now obsolete, RIP) bookshelves at Borders intuitively perusing for my next book to

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted - to Doc

2013-02-28 Thread doctordumbass
Thanks for the suggested materials - I haven't heard about the Institute of HeartMath. It is an enjoyable study, to watch when the heart overflows sometimes, and other times when the knife sharp intellect must organize something. The book sounds cool too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted - to Doc

2013-02-28 Thread Carol
Thanks Doc. What you state makes sense to me. Life is large. It's nice to keep it in perspective. I may have asked before if you are familiar with the Institute of HeartMath? It gets into how our hearts think...not as metaphor, but how our hearts actually help us make decisions. Which bring

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-28 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Oh no!! The "favorite cafe" revealed! > > Always an inspiration, Ann! Oh shit, I didn't think of the "favorite cafe" aspect - too funny. Sometimes when you're surrounded by the intimate smell of yourself you can't help but write

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted - to Doc

2013-02-28 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > "Eternity abides at all times in the silence within each of us; it is the > nakedness of who we are and is continually reconciling all that exists." > > *Beautifully* put!!! Thanks! > > To get into technicalities, our thoughts

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread doctordumbass
Oh no!! The "favorite cafe" revealed! Always an inspiration, Ann! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote: > > > > > > Barry's addled

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote: > > > > Barry's addled mind has slipped into its alternate reality - conjuring up imaginary characters doing imaginary things. Real life must be so tedious, bor

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted - to Doc

2013-02-27 Thread doctordumbass
"Eternity abides at all times in the silence within each of us; it is the nakedness of who we are and is continually reconciling all that exists." *Beautifully* put!!! Thanks! To get into technicalities, our thoughts serve the legitimate purpose of bringing our desires into being. However, in o

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > Hint: Just saying otherwise don't prove shit. *Especially* > > when the person saying it believes in little green men and > > saviors who do not and will never exi

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread doctordumbass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > Barry's addled mind has slipped into its alternate reality - conjuring up > imaginary characters doing imaginary things. Real life must be so tedious, > boring, mundane. The need to constantly create these scenarios of good guys, > bad gu

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > > > > My understanding, not being a shrink, is that the Turq has > > > > > some kind of a brain damage. He could be born with it, his > > > > > military father might have hit him so hard as a boy that > > > > > he never recovered, overly use of drugs at an early age or > > > > > straining dur

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > Barry's addled mind has slipped into its alternate reality - conjuring up > imaginary characters doing imaginary things. Real life must be so tedious, > boring, mundane. The need to constantly create these scenarios of good guys, > bad g

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > Hint: Just saying otherwise don't prove shit. *Especially* > when the person saying it believes in little green men and > saviors who do not and will never exist. The *only* thing > that would PROVE that Nabby is in good standing with th

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
navashok: > ...then it is an inexcusable sin, that cannot be > forgiven. > Where is Dr. Pete when we need him? LoL! "People who are in cults are 'trained'. The 'training' shows when they 'perform' [for the *truth*], as they think they do for MMY and the TM org. I know. I went through t

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@ > > wrote: > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > > My understanding, not being a shrink, is that the Turq has > > > some kind of a brain damage. He could be born with it, his > > > military father might have hit him so hard as a boy that > > > he never recovered, overly use of drugs at an early age or > > > straining during Buddhist meditat

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread seventhray27
Sure you hit hard at people. And many times it bothers me. But let's face it, insults are are about 50% of the fare here. And I think it's pretty obvious when a line is crossed. I got called on it a few days ago. To suggest that one's parent was a child abuser, I think crosses that line. P.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > wrote: > > > > > > My understanding, not being a shrink, is that the Turq > > > has some kind of a bra

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread doctordumbass
Dear Navashok, the history of Barry's presence here on FFL is an interesting one. He started out as one of the gang, and pretty soon his creatively written, though logically inept, criticism of TM and Maharishi attracted some like minded souls. This went on for a few years. The salad days, for

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > My understanding, not being a shrink, is that the Turq has some kind > of a brain damage. He could be born with it, his military father might > have hit him

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread navashok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@ > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > wrote: > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@ > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > wrote: > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread seventhray27
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > wrote: > > > > > My understanding, not being a shrink, is that the Turq has > > > some kind of a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted - to Doc

2013-02-26 Thread Carol
I hope there are thoughts in eternity. Seems it'd be very boring otherwise. But, I'm probably missing your point. Or maybe part of your point is there is no point? (I vaguely recall that movie, The Point. ) So, if I understand what you are saying... our thoughts protect us from eternity (or r

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > My understanding, not being a shrink, is that the Turq has > > some kind of a brain damage. He could be born with it, his > > military father might have hit him so

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread seventhray27
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > My understanding, not being a shrink, is that the Turq has some kind of a brain damage. He could be born with it, his military father might have hit him so hard as a boy that he never recovered, overly use of drugs at an early age or

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread seventhray27
ed a little over half an hour. Have not and will not share all he told me because if I did folks like Dr D and Nabby would have apoplexy. > > > > > > > > > > ____ > > From: Ann awoelflebater@ > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroup

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > Why are you *devoting* your time and thought, to > > something you no longer do? > > Michael Jackson: > ...I have used my TM mantras whenever I feel like > it, which these days is not very often. > In TM you get only one single bija mantra. Maybe you should go back to school and learn TM.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted - to Doc

2013-02-26 Thread doctordumbass
"I wonder if there is an eternity and if there will be a time when all is naked and when all is somehow reconciled?" Oddly, when there are no longer our thoughts protecting us from eternity, the nakedness (to ourselves) continues, and the reconciliation of everything continues also. With sile

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted - to Doc

2013-02-26 Thread Carol
Yah. (Carol smiles) What an incredible voyage O\or, as the Grateful Dead put it..."what a long, strange trip it's been..." Except it's not all "been;" it continues on as an "is." I wonder if there is an eternity and if there will be a time when all is naked and when all is somehow reconciled?

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted - to Doc

2013-02-26 Thread doctordumbass
The other thing that occurs to me about this process, is the self preservation that issues themselves take on, within us, within our awareness. Sort of the Alien scenario, without the exploding chest. Seriously, they form themselves such that they are protected from our examination. The physica

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted - to Doc

2013-02-26 Thread doctordumbass
Thank you - Yeah, its not an either/or for me, regarding expression of the past. However we express and *integrate* it. The interesting thing I have found is that once the past issues have been faced, they don't go away. Instead, they simply become part of the integrated memory landscape, nothi

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > > Now THAT prediction is likely to be just as accurate as your "take" on how > you theorized Robin felt about me during all that time I was first posting > here. You blabbering away and all the time you were utterly and completely

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted - to Doc

2013-02-26 Thread Carol
Great post Doc. I've asked myself many times over "How long does *this* take? Why the eff does it keep coming up to haunt me?" I've often wished for a don't-give-a-damn switch, in the sense of be able to 'get over' something. Like other folks who've lived some life, I have techniques in my tool

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > And, the ladies' dome probably isn't full of people > > doing this: > > > > http://www.facebook.com/MumSecrets/posts/337209126380388 > > turquoiseb: > E! > > Makes one wonder whether the "cosmic hum" some of the > women have been talking about was merely the sound of > their vibra

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > Got kicked out in July of 1987 > > > > Since you are all for openness I'm sure you would lik

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread doctordumbass
me because if I did > folks like Dr D and Nabby would have apoplexy. > > > > > > From: Ann > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 9:56 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "le

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread doctordumbass
Yeah, exactly the way I feel too - How long does it take to integrate something you no longer do? Valid question, and something I grapple with a fair amount these days, now that I finally have the time to do so. My obvious take on it is that stuff comes up in life, for all of us, sometimes cha

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread Carol
I continued to use the > TM mantra pretty regularly till about 1996 when I got the Chopra mantra, used > both back and forth for a while then eased of the TM mantra probably 1998 and > did other stuff. > > That's it in a nutshell but I will share more details if you like.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread doctordumbass
Aw c'mon dad! MJ got to call the channel on the TV yesterday too! and he never has to ride in the middle seat when we go somewhere! Wh! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > I never did it

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > I never did it for what other people thought and if > > everyone gits tired of me bein' here, all they gotta > > do it ask the moderator to kick me off and off I will > > go. > Alex Stanley: > Nope, doesn't work that way... > Just tell MJ to RTFM. LoL!

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread doctordumbass
.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > Hey, MJ, you can sit next to me! I don't snore at all (-: > > > > > > > > > From: Michael Jackson > > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" > > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 1

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread turquoiseb
rom: Michael Jackson > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:19 PM > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" > > the sighted > > > > I admit it would be an interesting experiment to mediate in the Dome again, > > but only if I could go meditate in the women's dome > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > Got kicked o

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > And, the ladies' dome probably isn't full of people doing this: > > http://www.facebook.com/MumSecrets/posts/337209126380388 Well that's something I never encountered! I wonder if the course office guidelines disapprove of that m

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread Alex Stanley
> From: Michael Jackson > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:19 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the > sighted > > >   > I admit i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted

2013-02-26 Thread Share Long
Hey, MJ, you can sit next to me!  I don't snore at all (-: From: Michael Jackson To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" t

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