[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-10 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, janosmelocco janosmelo...@... wrote: snip The answer I specifically sought here was why certain problems seem to aggravate in life with meditating with my original mantra? From my POV the answer is rather simple: when you climb to, say, Mount

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-09 Thread janosmelocco
curtisdeltablues, I am rereading some things that made sense. Actually I did get a few good points of advice, some privately in email - my yahoo address is public here - my name as given here plus yahoo dot com. It had a good effect on me to write all this out - in retrospect, I think it was

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-09 Thread janosmelocco
To the Finnish person: Sorry I did not answer your welcoming lines. I was too busy beside working out this problem I have my work and family and had a bit of a flu - indeed I hoped some meditation would help in the cure (Rife electric healing and Reiki are probably more helpful though). Yes, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, janosmelocco janosmelo...@... wrote: Hi Janosmelocco I am really the worst person to give advice to you. I don't share the transpersonal or spiritual perspectives that seem to be important to you. But we do share an interest in NLP and Ericksonian

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-09 Thread Joe
Janosmelocco, You could do far worse than to take advice from brother Curtis here. As humble as he is, this is a guy who has really walked the walk when it comes to spiritual practice and devotion. Take advice is the wrong expression actually. Listen carefully and consider is better. Curtis

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-07 Thread cardemaister
I am a practicing Indian astrologer BTW. Let me recap what my question is about. Somehow, my basic meditation technique changed over the years, and since about 2001-2002 it has not been good at all - sometimes I felt it was downright unpleasant and destructive to my everyday life. While

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-07 Thread It's just a ride
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:59 PM, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Lastly, you may have to request a pandit to perform yagyas for your family to correct this problem, if it cannot be resolved amicably. All problems are the result of bad vastu. Get your house recitified to the latest vastu

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-07 Thread WillyTex
According to Zen Master Suzuki, all you have to do is 'sit'. This 'just sitting' IS the enlightened state. All you have to do is 'be aware of being aware'. It's that simple. Nab: Let Suzuki sit thinking and imagine he is enlightened, Just sitting IS the enlightened state.

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-07 Thread WillyTex
Curtis: You seem really sincere and in real distress. Here are my two cents. Your wife's issues have nothing to do with your TM practice. You are not equipped to answer any questions about 'spiritual practice', Curtis. It is more likely that she is sensitive to your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-07 Thread Vaj
Many people who were adversely effected by TM and/or the TMSP have had great relief the kundalinicare.com people. The book Kundalini Vidya on their website is a must read for all long-term TMers. On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:01 PM, janosmelocco wrote: Another point: Curtis is also right. Perhaps

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-07 Thread WillyTex
Vaj: Many people who were adversely effected by TM and/or the TMSP... So, you were adversely affected. ...have had great relief the kundalinicare people. So, you're now considering getting help from some 'kundalini' people. And you're going to take a bus trip all the way to Tennessee,

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-07 Thread John
2. it's an olfactory thing: basic TM technique makes your body excrete some pheromone like stuff (burning of kRSNa-karma??), that irritates other people. Hey, Carde, I've never heard of this body excretion stuff you've mentioned. What does it smell like to women?

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-07 Thread Buck
Of course I am no help in any spiritual issues because I don't share a spiritual perspective. (not that there's anything wrong with that!) Well, for a lack of just not knowing (experience) that later is a large spiritual assumption on your part. Though proly right on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-07 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: 2. it's an olfactory thing: basic TM technique makes your body excrete some pheromone like stuff (burning of kRSNa-karma??), that irritates other people. Hey, Carde, I've never heard of this body excretion stuff you've

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, janosmelocco janosmelo...@... wrote: Janos(?), I think you mentioned earlier that you are from Hungary. Being a Finn, I'm just curious whether your native language is Hungarian or not? Melocco seems like an Italian family name.

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, janosmelocco janosmelo...@... wrote: To all who are commenting here, I am not surprised to see that there are different levels in these comments. As for me, I am learning from a state of being that is not so concerned with criticism. Yet I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:36 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Jesuuus Christ. Maybe some day I'll have the patience or attention span to see what is written here. But not today. My thoughts too. Where people get the time or energy for such mind-numbingly long rants is beyond me. Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: Yup, bring it on. Down to brass knuckles, youd can't just sit this one out Janosmelocco,and not at least carry some water. Not just let a bunch of average middleclass dogmatic jerks get away with this knowledge. Bunch of

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:36 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Jesuuus Christ. Maybe some day I'll have the patience or attention span to see what is written here. But not today. My thoughts too. Where people get

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread Duveyoung
Curtis: OTHO there are moments of random kindness and good will expressed between Internet strangers that show a tiny glimpse of the best of our social primate nature. Human drama played out on FFL! Hey, Gotta confess that, for instance, Christians at least mood make and can be found doing

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread WillyTex
TM Teacher: Jesuuus Christ. Maybe some day I'll have the patience or attention span to see what is written here. But not today. Let's see - you spent countless hours and thousands of dollars to learn how to teach TM and help people with their spiritual experiences - but you

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Curtis: So many TM trained orphans with no ability of the organizations to deal with their issues... As someone posted here Curtis; watch out for your tendency to post excessive baseless drivel !

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:36 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Jesuuus Christ. Maybe some day I'll have the patience or attention span to see what is written here. But not today. My thoughts too. Where people

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 6, 2010, at 10:05 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:36 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Jesuuus Christ. Maybe some day I'll have the patience or attention span to see what is written here. But

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Vaj inferred that some type of 'sarin gas' might be involved. What's up with that? Vaj is in the Buddhist tradition, in desperation they will use Sarin. He has no idea of what TM-initiation involves.

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread WillyTex
jan: ...my TM technique stopped working for me after about 20 years. Jeff: And we all know that you secretly got married, have 2 kids and live in Paris. Nice you can get it all off your chest your Naderness. Everyone on the planet is practing meditation, and everyone is

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: According to Zen Master Suzuki, all you have to do is 'sit'. This 'just sitting' IS the enlightened state. All you have to do is 'be aware of being aware'. It's that simple. Let Suzuki sit thinking and imagine he

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Curtis: So many TM trained orphans with no ability of the organizations to deal with their issues... As someone posted here Curtis; watch out for your

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Curtis: So many TM trained orphans with no ability of the organizations to deal with their issues... You're the TM trained 'orpahn', Curtis. But, just because you don't seem to have any answers for spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread WillyTex
Vaj: Does your technique happen to involve sarin gas? No, Vaj, I'm totally opposed to the use of 'sarin gas' in spiritual pujas. I'm more in facor of using pure camphor fumes. But, everyone knows that the mundane joss sticks found in most Indian grocery stores is pure punk. The very best

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread janosmelocco
OK people - I got what I wanted. Thank you. Humor is great, I will not react to trolls or personal stuff though. (And you do not have to quote my lengthy OP every time - just hit the delete button when you are posting...) Needless to say I do not live in Paris, not Islamic etc. (FYI, I am a

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: TM Teacher: Jesuuus Christ. Maybe some day I'll have the patience or attention span to see what is written here. But not today. Let's see - you spent countless hours and thousands of dollars to learn how to

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread WillyTex
you can't spend sixty seconds answering a simple question today? Go figure. lurk: Simple question? Where's the simple question? What is TM?

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: you can't spend sixty seconds answering a simple question today? Go figure. lurk: Simple question? Where's the simple question? What is TM? Okay, my bad. TM is a simple, natural effortless technique whereby

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: you can't spend sixty seconds answering a simple question today? Go figure. lurk: Simple question? Where's the simple

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread janosmelocco
Another point: Curtis is also right. Perhaps TM teachers are not equipped to solve this problem. I have asked a couple locally and basically did not get any valuable answer. That is why I was going to solicit opinions and experiences here. I also tried simple checking years ago. It worked

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
You seem really sincere and in real distress. Here are my two cents. Your wife's issues have nothing to do with your TM practice. It is more likely that she is sensitive to your disappearing for periods of time from her needs than anything to do with spiritual practices. Most couples have to

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-06 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: You seem really sincere and in real distress. Here are my two cents. Your wife's issues have nothing to do with your TM practice. It is more likely that she is sensitive to your disappearing for periods

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, janosmelocco janosmelo...@... wrote: POST TWO More on my background: I learned TM in 1977 and since it was in the East Bloc we had no contact with teachers for years #8211; and I had the greatest experiences, stability and growth in my life over

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread janosmelocco
Yes, that is true. And the sidhi sutras only calm me for a modicum. I certainly have vata problems - sleep, large intestine etc. Calming music or sounds sometimes work better. Not that I would be against stimulation - obviously in the enjoyment of life that is needed. I used to take too much

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, janosmelocco janosmelo...@... wrote: Hi all, I wrote a fairly long opening post - but I realized I would post it only if there are some people who could answer me with honest deliberation. I will summarize the essence: my TM technique stopped

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, janosmelocco janosmelo...@... wrote: 3. Shakti that another poster wrote about... I imagine a yogi's power would be sufficient to fight back environmental effects to a certain degree if imparted. Whatever people say about MMY, I think he and his basic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread Bhairitu
FYI, some of the opinions expressed on FFL are from rank amateurs who only speculate on how TM works. Some never even became teachers. Some have never been to India nor met teachers outside of the TM movement. I have taught TM and more recently learned from an Indian tantric who resides in

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread WillyTex
Bhairitu: ...some of the opinions expressed on FFL are from rank amateurs who only speculate on how TM works. Some never even became teachers. Some have never been to India nor met teachers outside of the TM movement. So, by whose authority are you passing out these 'guru' mantras?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread Bhairitu
WillyTex wrote: Bhairitu: ...some of the opinions expressed on FFL are from rank amateurs who only speculate on how TM works. Some never even became teachers. Some have never been to India nor met teachers outside of the TM movement. So, by whose authority are you passing

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: and Curtis says it's just 'snake-oil' the Maharishi was selling. On reflection this comparison seems a bit unfair. Considering that snake oils salesmen only promised to cure common diseases with their panaceas and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread Vaj
On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:20 PM, WillyTex wrote: Yes, I've been to India and I've been teaching meditation for over thirty years, with direct authorization from His Holiness The Dalai Lama. Does your technique happen to involve sarin gas?

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread janosmelocco
Yes, this is valuable advice. I read through a few of Neff's material, and she seems to be right on spot with a few things. It is quite possible that we are in the grips of lower astral entities, and there are ways to close a few more doors. I mirror my wife in a different way - so far she

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread janosmelocco
Bhairatu, I am really glad you are in this forum. In fact, it was your posts from earlier years that prompted me to seek advice here. Had you - or someone at this level - not entered this thread, I would have had to try to write to you privately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread janosmelocco
To all who are commenting here, I am not surprised to see that there are different levels in these comments. As for me, I am learning from a state of being that is not so concerned with criticism. Yet I understand the frustration of some of you with some of the teachings or claims of MMY or

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Jesuuus Christ. Maybe some day I'll have the patience or attention span to see what is written here. But not today. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, janosmelocco janosmelo...@... wrote: To all who are commenting here, I am not surprised to see that there are different levels in

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread metoostill
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Jesuuus Christ. Maybe some day I'll have the patience or attention span to see what is written here. But not today. This week's very best line, had to laugh out loud when I read it, thanks for that!

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread jeff.evans60
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, janosmelocco janosmelo...@... wrote: Hi all, I wrote a fairly long opening post - but I realized I would post it only if there are some people who could answer me with honest deliberation. I will summarize the essence: my TM technique stopped

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-05 Thread jeff.evans60
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Bhairitu: ...some of the opinions expressed on FFL are from rank amateurs who only speculate on how TM works. Some never even became teachers. Some have never been to India nor met teachers outside of the TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-04 Thread janosmelocco
POST TWO More on my background: I learned TM in 1977 and since it was in the East Bloc we had no contact with teachers for years #8211; and I had the greatest experiences, stability and growth in my life over seven years despite all odds #8211; being in no contact with others, varied

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-04 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, janosmelocco janosmelo...@... wrote: POST TWO More on my background: I learned TM in 1977 and since it was in the East Bloc we had no contact with teachers for years #8211; and I had the greatest experiences, stability and growth in my life over

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

2010-02-04 Thread John
In my opinion, you should stop meditating for a period of time if TM is not working for you. It sounds like you're making things more complicated than it should be. When you are ready to get back to TM, see a teacher for checking and then resume your practice. --- In