Re: How do yall do it?

2007-01-06 Thread catatonya
easily. Dianne - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: Re: How do yall do it? the short answer? we do it because we can. we might not always THINK that we can, but clearly the creative

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-30 Thread Nina
Hi Kelley, I've seen Missy's pictures before, everytime I do I get this huge smile on my face. She's so adorable! I certainly understand the feeling of dread in the pit of your stomach when you think about the possibility of her time being short. My advice is to stop nurturing that feeling o

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-28 Thread Marylyn
elineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:08 PM Subject: Re: How do yall do it? She's precious! Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh, definitely, I would never let Missy go uncared for. But it is about time to take her to the cardiologist again and I&#x

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-28 Thread Gina WN
My Tigger is a lap kitty :) Gina Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a very nice "lap fungus" kitty here just now. They do happen occasionally. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-28 Thread Gina WN
She's precious! Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Oh, definitely, I would never let Missy go uncared for. But it is about time to take her to the cardiologist again and I'm scared. She's the best cat. She's not afraid of anything, and when peopel come over she will jump into their

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-28 Thread Patricia Lamoretti
e one that doesn't move very fast, and it'll need to be a complete and total lap fungusexcept when the mom doesn't want it to be. Oh boy. Diane R. - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: We

RE: How do yall do it?

2006-12-27 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
m: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: How do yall do it? I have heard some real horror stories, but of course there are 2 sides to every story. I have caught local AC in some

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-27 Thread Kelley Saveika
ined to get another cat. She's > > unsteady on her feet, has a bad back and has ZERO energy, so it has to be > > one that doesn't move very fast, and it'll need to be a complete and total > > lap fungus....except when the mom doesn't want it to be. Oh boy. >

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-27 Thread Leslie Lawther
. Oh boy. > > Diane R. > > > ------------------ > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kelley Saveika > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:35 AM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject: *Re: How do yall do it? >

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-27 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
I have a very nice "lap fungus" kitty here just now. They do happen occasionally. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20W

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-27 Thread Kelley Saveika
- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kelley Saveika *Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:35 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: How do yall do it? When I told my mother how many cats I have, she FREAKED OUT and started worrying about me goin

RE: How do yall do it?

2006-12-27 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:35 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: How do yall do it? When I told my mother how many cats I have, she FREAKED OUT and started

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-27 Thread Kelley Saveika
When I told my mother how many cats I have, she FREAKED OUT and started worrying about me going to jail for having too many cats. Apparently there was a raid near her and the woman went to jail. I've never heard of anyone going to jail around here for hoarding. They usually just take the cats an

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
Barbara, I think you did the absolute right thing, and SHAME on your mother for even thinking of throwing guilt around like that. I think it's terrible that someone who is supposed to love you and support you by default would even consider being so thoughtless and MEAN to even suggest that you de

Re: How do yall do it? (BP in cats)

2006-12-26 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
does sodium effect BP in cats like it does in humans? does he eat any sodium (salt) in the diet you feed? Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&it

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
nothing wrong with chanting it's kind of like an Affirmation, except it's accomplished by the nature of rhythm and repetition, as opposed to focus and meditation. Most cats love to be sung to, and love it when you sing-song their names into rhymes, so I would think they would really be happy wi

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
Oh, she is beautiful! And she has the same little dainty nose and smaller eye that my Moogie had. She looks a lot like her, except the coat color! Just cherish each moment you have, and let tomorrow bring tomorrow, one moment at a time, and don't stress out about the things you cannot control. The

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
I'll be sending thoughts of health and high spirits to Missy for you Kelley. You just have to know that you are giving her the best life you can provide while she is with you, and know that SHE KNOWS THAT, and believe that even if her time is short, the QUALITY is more important than the QUANTITY,

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Marylyn
leukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:44 PM Subject: Re: How do yall do it? Hi Belinda, She is not on any prescribed meds yet. I have her on a lot of supplements including CoQ10, l-lysine, l-carnitine, and a multivitamin, on the recommendations of the kitty heart list. Her

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Marylyn
w man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Barbara Oberst To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: Re: How do yall do it? I have 5 of my own cats, plus 4 strays we're fostering. In October, 1 of th

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread TenHouseCats
--- Original Message - *From:* TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:09 PM *Subject:* Re: How do yall do it? the short answer? we do it because we can. we might not always THINK that we can, but clearly the creative forc

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Barbara Oberst
loud and clear that God had her pick me because I would take care of her to the very best of my ability and would not give up easily. Dianne - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: Re:

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Belinda
Sounds like you have her on some good supplements. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hos

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Belinda
I think a cardiologist is a good idea. Joey has HCM and gets an echo every year now, was every 6 to9 months but he is stable so we get to wait a year. He is on benazepril for it an it seems to be keeping things OK. He does have high BP which my vet doesn't want to treat yet but I am going

Re: How do yall do it?-- Asia

2006-12-26 Thread Dianne K Perry, Ph.D.
No we don't use adriamycin, but I will remember it in case we need to add it. She is such a loving kittyincredible little one... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: H

Re: How do yall do it?-- Asia

2006-12-26 Thread Lernermichelle
CCNU is another "rescue" drug like elspar that can help cats who have come out of remission. I think that it puts smething like 50% of cats with lymphoma back into remission after they have come out of it. Also, I don't remember, but I don't think your vet's protocol includes adriamycin,

Re: How do yall do it?-- Asia

2006-12-26 Thread Dianne K Perry, Ph.D.
. I think she is not gaining weight as she should but will see on Friday when we go back to vet thanks for asking Dianne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:01 PM Subject: Re: How do yall do it

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
Yes, it is repairable in people, and dogs, but not cats:( Apparently there aren't heart lung machines small enough...I talked to my brother who is an MD and he said if they were able to do the surgery to repair it they would probably have to do it under a microscope. It may eventually turn into

Re: How do yall do it?-- Asia

2006-12-26 Thread Lernermichelle
Dianne, How is Asia doing? Michelle In a message dated 12/26/2006 3:00:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you for this. It reminded me of the day Asia was diagnosed with FELV, even before the Lymphoma I was down in the dumps and wondering why this a

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Dianne K Perry, Ph.D.
- Original Message - From: TenHouseCats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: Re: How do yall do it? the short answer? we do it because we can. we might not always THINK that we can, but clearly the creative force of the universe

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Lernermichelle
oh, i did not catch the problem. I have never heard of that problem. It sounds like you are doing everything you can. michelle In a message dated 12/26/2006 2:53:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, the internist didn't feel it was bad enough for meds, or that

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
Yes, the internist didn't feel it was bad enough for meds, or that there were any meds to put her on at this point. She is asymptomatic except for having a hole in her heart. She has been checked for fluid build up and has none. My regular vet has instructed me to bring her in immediately at an

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Lernermichelle
There are meds for cats with heart conditions. My Snowball was on them. They do not necessarily save them, but I think they can extend life in some cases, and certain drugs like lasix can make them more comfortable if they get fluid build-up. Michelle In a message dated 12/26/2006 2:45:05

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
Hi Belinda, She is not on any prescribed meds yet. I have her on a lot of supplements including CoQ10, l-lysine, l-carnitine, and a multivitamin, on the recommendations of the kitty heart list. Her immune system is not strong, though probably not as weak as an FELV kitty. She also gets ill wit

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Marylyn
You are strong enough. Just live in today. No one knows what tomorrow will bring. We all start dying the minute we are born. It is a journey. A painful journey but a journey none the less. If you dwell on what may happen you will lose the wonder and love of the present. Don't let that hap

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Belinda
She's adorable. Is she on any meds for her condition? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread TenHouseCats
people would bring FeLV or FIV cats to the sanctuary, saying that they couldn't keep them, because, "they are going to die." we would gently remind them that ALL of their cats, and they themselves, are going to die. there are just no guarantees--the $1500 showcat you buy tomorrow could have a con

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread TenHouseCats
the short answer? we do it because we can. we might not always THINK that we can, but clearly the creative force of the universe, by whatever name you choose to call it, believes that we can. these critters always manage to find us, no matter what we do. i have come to believe that, in order to

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Lernermichelle
The way I have dealt with the fear of loss thing, in the past, is to tell myself that when they are gone, all I will want is the chance to hold them and pet them and smell them and talk to them again, and will feel like I would give anything for 5 minutes of it. And look! they are still her

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
On 12/26/06, Rosenfeldt, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What a beautiful girl! She sounds like a delightful kitty. You're doing everything right, and she knows how much you love her. Try to focus on having her now, rather than losing her in the future, and be happy. Diane R. I tell he

RE: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: How do yall do it? Oh, definitely, I would never let Missy go uncared for. But it is about time to take her to the cardiologist again and I'm scared. She'

RE: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Chris
r. Chris <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: How do yall do it? Oh, definitely, I woul

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
On 12/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm sure we all stress and cry a lot. some of us have medical problems of our own that are probably caused or exacerbated by stress. I went to my doctor and told him I cried every day. He put me on antidepressants right away. And

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
Oh, definitely, I would never let Missy go uncared for. But it is about time to take her to the cardiologist again and I'm scared. She's the best cat. She's not afraid of anything, and when peopel come over she will jump into their arms. She's never known anything but love, except when she was

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Barb Moermond
Kelley, I think with most of us here on this list, that it's not seeing any other option (that can be comfortably lived with) but to care for these animals. We all get so much love from our animals, who just want to be loved in return. To not take care of an animal that has been adopted/rescue

Re: How do yall do it?

2006-12-26 Thread Lernermichelle
I'm sure we all stress and cry a lot. some of us have medical problems of our own that are probably caused or exacerbated by stress. And if you lose enough animals, there is some sense of resignation that comes too, I think. It is not any less sad or upsetting, but the amount of crying d