Re: [Finale] Fingerings

2002-06-21 Thread Mark D. Lew
>How do you people enter fingerings? I guess at least in my situation >articulations are the best method, or is there a better one? I use articulations. It seems to me that nothing else would give you easy control over horizontal and vertical positioning. With articulations you can get consiste

Re: [Finale] Igor vs. Sibelius vs. Finale.

2002-06-21 Thread John Bell
At 12:20 am -0400 22.06.2002, Steven Powell wrote: >It is undeniable that Finale has a longer learning curve than >Sibelius, but once you learn it, I find it is usually faster to work in. Seconded. Regards John ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] Rests in triple time

2002-06-21 Thread Steven Powell
B) is correct practice. Steve Powell DVM Publications www.dvmpublications.com > > Hey all! > I was wondering ... what is the standard for displaying rests in triple > time? Is it: > > a) 1/4 note - 1/2 rest > or > b) 1/4 note - 1/4 rest - 1/4 rest > ? > > Thanks,

Re: [Finale] Rests in triple time

2002-06-21 Thread John Bell
At 11:47 pm -0400 21.06.2002, Howard Rigby wrote: >It is usual to see a regular whole rest (as in 4/4 time) in an empty >measure, even if there are only three beats really being rested >over. This is correct, but the original question was not about empty measures. Regards John __

Re: [Finale] Igor vs. Sibelius vs. Finale.

2002-06-21 Thread Steven Powell
Robert makes a really good point below. I'd add (in reference to an earlier post from a member who received a file with expressions added as text blocks) that when I compared Finale and Sibelius for my book, I sent a preprint to both Coda and Sibelius. A Sibelius representative (actually the owner

[Finale] Bracket articulation

2002-06-21 Thread Crystal Premo
Why is there no symbol for the bracket for two notes on the piano which are very far apart? Doesn't it mean to play the two notes in succession, like a two-note roll? Shouldn't there be an articulation that will affect playback? I've been using a symbol I drew as an Expression. Crystal Prem

Re: [Finale] Rests in triple time

2002-06-21 Thread Éric Dussault
> b) 1/4 note - 1/4 rest - 1/4 rest This is right. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Rests in triple time

2002-06-21 Thread Howard Rigby
Hi all-- John wrote: At 09:30 pm -0400 21.06.2002, Liontaris LM Flashmane wrote: > what is the standard for displaying rests in triple time? Is it: > >a) 1/4 note - 1/2 rest >or >b) 1/4 note - 1/4 rest - 1/4 rest (b) is the convention _except_ if there is a pause over beats 2 & 3: in that

Re: [Finale] Rests in triple time

2002-06-21 Thread John Bell
At 09:30 pm -0400 21.06.2002, Liontaris LM Flashmane wrote: > what is the standard for displaying rests in triple time? Is it: > >a) 1/4 note - 1/2 rest >or >b) 1/4 note - 1/4 rest - 1/4 rest (b) is the convention _except_ if there is a pause over beats 2 & 3: in that case you can have (a).

Re: [Finale] Rests in triple time

2002-06-21 Thread Harold Owen
Taris asks: >Hey all! > I was wondering ... what is the standard for displaying rests >in triple time? Is it: > >a) 1/4 note - 1/2 rest >or >b) 1/4 note - 1/4 rest - 1/4 rest >? Dear Taris, I'm for b) definitely. Hal -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL P

[Finale] RE: FinWin2003 beam display problem

2002-06-21 Thread Rodney Waterman
I reinstalled the latest (v.11.0) HP Deskjet 690c printer drivers, and things have improved. The printout generally is now excellent, including barlines, stems etc. But the angled beams are still jagged (its the same in Fin2k2). Is it just that my 300dpi printer isn't high enough resolution to

Re: [Finale] Burning CDs of Finale Files

2002-06-21 Thread timothy.price
on 6/21/02 2:07 PM, Jacques Rizzo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi: > > I found your web site from the Finale support page. I have a problem that > perhaps you can be of help. > > I use Finale 2002b on a Mac G4, OS 9.2.2. I have a Kurzweil PC2 synth that > is connected to the Mac through a MO

[Finale] Rests in triple time

2002-06-21 Thread Liontaris LM Flashmane
Hey all! I was wondering ... what is the standard for displaying rests in triple time? Is it: a) 1/4 note - 1/2 rest or b) 1/4 note - 1/4 rest - 1/4 rest ? Thanks, Taris? ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mail

Re: [Finale] TAN: Public support for the arts

2002-06-21 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Friday, June 21, 2002, at 07:08 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: > Poetry "slams" are quite alive and well -- poetry thrives today without > NEA support. David, I'm afraid you're quite wrong about this. First off, poetry slams were a fad that has come and gone; second, the sort of material tha

Re: [Finale] Hopeless engraving

2002-06-21 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Friday, June 21, 2002, at 07:30 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: > To Pierre's good wishes I will add that you might want to lay in a good > supply of coffee, or get a direct line to Starbuck installed. > > Broadband coffee, anyone? Peet's delivers -- http://www.peets.com - Darcy - [EMAIL P

[Finale] Re: font problem

2002-06-21 Thread shirling & neueweise
>From: Andrew Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >...textblocks using the font MetTimes become sprawled out vertically, so that the >text extends below the lower page margin. i encountered a similar situation [horizontal sprawling] for awhile with two specific fonts on a specific set of computers [ne

[Finale] Re: Fingerings

2002-06-21 Thread shirling & neueweise
johannes, i enter them as articulations, you can [as you know] specify them to remain outside the staff, or not, as needed. jef -- shirling & neueweise \/ new music notation specialists mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com

Re: [Finale] FinWin2003 beam display problem

2002-06-21 Thread Rodney Waterman
At 12:00 PM 21/06/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I have been off-line for awhile (recovering from junk mail onslaught), so > > sorry if you have already addressed this: > > > > I have just installed FinWin 2003 (from 2002b) and immediately notice that > > the angular beams look much more jagged than ever

Re: [Finale] FinWin2003 beam display problem

2002-06-21 Thread Rodney Waterman
At 12:00 PM 21/06/2002 -0500, Jari Williamson wrote: > > I have just installed FinWin 2003 (from 2002b) and immediately notice that > > the angular beams look much more jagged than ever before on the monitor. > > Flat beams look fine. But more disturbing is that they print out > > jagged/stepped a

Re: [Finale] TAN: Public support for the arts

2002-06-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:00 PM 6/21/02 -0400, David H. Bailey wrote: >I am not sure that giving creative minds a free ride Most creative minds get a "free ride" if they work in industries where research and development is paid for, don't they? More than a free ride -- one with benefits and facilities and recognitio

RE: [Finale] Macintosh; plug-ins; macro programs.

2002-06-21 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 05:51 PM 06/21/02, Dan Rupert wrote: >Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but I do this from _within_ >Finale (rather than from TGT). Heh...I guess I never knew you could do that from within Finale. Learn something new every day. >Perhaps you mean that you program >_additional_ to

RE: [Finale] Macintosh; plug-ins; macro programs.

2002-06-21 Thread Dan Rupert
On Behalf Of Aaron Sherber >>>I've never liked macro programs much myself, although many people love them. TGTools does come with a keyboard remapper facility that lets you assign custom hotkeys to menu items, which I do find very useful (I have my function keys mapped to different Finale tool

Re: [Finale] font problem

2002-06-21 Thread Philip Aker
On Friday, June 21, 2002, at 01:43 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: >>> I find that when I update files from FinMac 2K to 2K2, >>> textblocks using the font MetTimes become sprawled out >>> vertically, so that the text extends below the lower page >>> margin. What is going on here, and how can I pre

Re: [Finale] TAN: Public support for the arts

2002-06-21 Thread Andrew Stiller
> >I am not sure that giving creative minds a free ride so that they >may create is such a great thing -- it removes them from having to >interact with the world in any meaningful way and (in my opinion) >may rob them of the very stimulus which provides great art. > That's a wonderful idea. Le

[Finale] {SHSU Postmaster VIRUS warning?} A new website

2002-06-21 Thread info
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Re: [Finale] font problem

2002-06-21 Thread Andrew Stiller
>On Friday, June 21, 2002, at 07:54 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: > >>I find that when I update files from FinMac 2K to 2K2, textblocks >>using the font MetTimes become sprawled out vertically, so that the >>text extends below the lower page margin. What is going on here, >>and how can I prevent i

Re: [Finale] Macintosh; plug-ins; macro programs.

2002-06-21 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:52 PM 06/21/02, Michael Edwards wrote: > Yes, this is something else I had intended to ask about. I believe there >are three or four members of this list who produce plug-ins which might be >useful. I'm not sure, but I think three of these people are Tobias Giesen, >Robert Patters

Re: [Finale] Igor vs. Sibelius vs. Finale.

2002-06-21 Thread Linda Worsley
At 5:42 AM +1000 6/22/02, Michael Edwards wrote: [big clip' > However, I understand Finale is the most powerful program of >all, which is >why I am considering getting it. (A couple of people mentioned simpler or >cut-down versions of Finale. But the full version is the only one I will >c

Re: [Finale] Fingerings

2002-06-21 Thread David H. Bailey
I find articulations are the best. But depending on the music, you may need to create a duplicate set, edited to go beneath the notes, in case the music you are working has several layers for a divisi passage. Johannes Gebauer wrote: > How do you people enter fingerings? I guess at least in

Re: [Finale] Igor vs. Sibelius vs. Finale.

2002-06-21 Thread Robert Patterson
On Sat, 22 June 2002, "Michael Edwards" wrote > I've heard comments from various people > which seem to indicate that Finale is not easy to use; We should draw a distinction here between easy to use and easy to learn. I am not qualified to comment on either Igor or Sibelius, but I will say that u

Re: [Finale] TAN: Public support for the arts

2002-06-21 Thread David H. Bailey
Andrew Stiller wrote: [snip of old quoted material] > I was not addressing the main thread, but simply the narrow issue of how > important the arts are to society. However, I find I can't resist > swinging at such an easy pitch: > > No, he didn't have government support. He didn't have *any*

[Finale] Macintosh; plug-ins; macro programs.

2002-06-21 Thread Michael Edwards
[Matthew Hindson:] >If you're going to buy a Mac (and I don't know which sort of Mac you're >going to buy, though the new eMacs are very good value for money), Well, it was just a thought, and I probably won't do it, since I've always worked in DOS and Windows, and everything about what I'v

[Finale] Igor vs. Sibelius vs. Finale.

2002-06-21 Thread Michael Edwards
[Johannes Gebauer:] >I am surprised you consider Igor more a possibility than Sibelius. I am >pretty sure Sibelius is much better than Igor, in almost any respect. My opinion is admittedly second-hand, so I can't vouch for it. I've been on the Igor list for a couple of years, so my opinion

Re: [Finale] Burning CDs of Finale Files

2002-06-21 Thread Javier Ruiz
I think I can help on this: When Finale is playing your music through the MOTU Midi interface the Kurzweil is sounding and you get the unbelievable sound that you mention. The problem is, how to record that sound back into the computer so you can have an AIFF file to burn the CD? 1) First you n

[Finale] Burning CDs of Finale Files

2002-06-21 Thread Jacques Rizzo
Hi: I found your web site from the Finale support page. I have a problem that perhaps you can be of help. I use Finale 2002b on a Mac G4, OS 9.2.2. I have a Kurzweil PC2 synth that is connected to the Mac through a MOTU FastLane MIDI box (which has unbelievable Take 6 vocal samples). I bought

[Finale] {SHSU Postmaster VIRUS warning?} A special new website

2002-06-21 Thread credi
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Re: [Finale] font problem

2002-06-21 Thread Philip Aker
On Friday, June 21, 2002, at 07:54 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: > I find that when I update files from FinMac 2K to 2K2, > textblocks using the font MetTimes become sprawled out > vertically, so that the text extends below the lower page > margin. What is going on here, and how can I prevent it?

[Finale] Fingerings

2002-06-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
How do you people enter fingerings? I guess at least in my situation articulations are the best method, or is there a better one? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] Tempo Expressions & Instrument List

2002-06-21 Thread Crystal Premo
>>You probably entered the tempo changes as note-attached expressions. If >>you change them to measure-attached expressions, they will probably play >>for any part or combination of parts. << You may be right, and I will look for that. However, moving the expression from the vocal line, where

Re: [Finale] Hopeless engraving

2002-06-21 Thread Javier Ruiz
Maybe Tobias is listening to us and decide to implement this feature in a weekend or two... Something like: "Attach any page text block to the nearest measure" Saludos, y suerte, Johannes. >> I seem to recall that TGTool have a feature to convert text blocks to >> measure expressions. >> I use

Re: [Finale] Hopeless engraving

2002-06-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.06.2002 16:08 Uhr, Javier Ruiz wrote > I seem to recall that TGTool have a feature to convert text blocks to > measure expressions. > I used it when converting a bunch of Encore files. I just checked this out, but it will only convert measure attached text blocks. Concerting page text bloc

Re: [Finale] TAN: Public support for the arts

2002-06-21 Thread Andrew Stiller
>Andrew Stiller wrote: > This is not a life or death issue, like national defense, or public safety, or desegregation. >>> >> >> It is difficult >>to get the news from poems >> yet men die miserably every day >> for lack >>of what is found there. >> Hear me ou

[Finale] font problem

2002-06-21 Thread Andrew Stiller
I find that when I update files from FinMac 2K to 2K2, textblocks using the font MetTimes become sprawled out vertically, so that the text extends below the lower page margin. What is going on here, and how can I prevent it? ___ Finale mailing list [E

Re: [Finale] Hopeless engraving

2002-06-21 Thread Javier Ruiz
I seem to recall that TGTool have a feature to convert text blocks to measure expressions. I used it when converting a bunch of Encore files. I´d check it if I were you. Saludos. > Imagine this: I have been given a few Finale files to clean up, that were > engraved by someone else. All fingerin

Re: [Finale] Hopeless engraving

2002-06-21 Thread Linda Worsley
At 10:18 AM +0200 6/21/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >Imagine this: I have been given a few Finale files to clean up, that were >engraved by someone else. All fingerings, Manual indications (organ music), >tempoindications etc have been entered as _page text blocks_. And I am the >person who has to

Re: [Finale] 2003 tab questions

2002-06-21 Thread richard
Hi David, > 1. Rythm staff above tab numbers or letters > - Rythm above the tab staff has no dots, the dots are placed behind the > notes, so even with making the dots visible (wonderful new staff attributes > dialogue box) and adjusting their positions, I'm stuck with adjusting each > and everyo

Re: [Finale] relation system versus page percentage

2002-06-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.06.2002 13:28 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote > An 83% system reduction produced exactly the same staff/element size as > the 85% page reduction produced. That's pretty much the result I had, too. Thanks, Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___

Re: [Finale] FinWin2003 beam display problem

2002-06-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.06.2002 12:54 Uhr, Rodney Waterman wrote > Dear finale list > > I have been off-line for awhile (recovering from junk mail onslaught), so > sorry if you have already addressed this: > > I have just installed FinWin 2003 (from 2002b) and immediately notice that > the angular beams look muc

Re: [Finale] TAN: Public support for the arts

2002-06-21 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 7:08 AM -0400 6/21/02, David H. Bailey wrote: > >I am not against the arts at all. I earn my living from >participating in the arts. > >I also do so without governmental support. > >How about you? > > >-- >David H. Bailey As a matter of absolute fact, I make my living without DIRECT gover

[Finale] Sorry to post this to the list, but it bounced when sent to MarkD. Lew

2002-06-21 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
Title: Sorry to post this to the list, but it bounced when se To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Christopher BJ Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Bounced message Cc: Bcc: X-Attachments: Hi Mark, In my last two replies to your messages on the Finale List, I got a bounced message notice from your se

Re: [Finale] FinWin2003 beam display problem

2002-06-21 Thread Jari Williamsson
Rodney Waterman writes: > I have just installed FinWin 2003 (from 2002b) and immediately notice that > the angular beams look much more jagged than ever before on the monitor. > Flat beams look fine. But more disturbing is that they print out > jagged/stepped as well. Can't reproduce this. I

Re: [Finale] Hopeless engraving

2002-06-21 Thread David H. Bailey
To Pierre's good wishes I will add that you might want to lay in a good supply of coffee, or get a direct line to Starbuck installed. Broadband coffee, anyone? Pierre Bailleul wrote: > Good luck ... > > pierre. > > - Original Message - > From: "Johannes Gebauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Finale] How or where do you purchase Finale?

2002-06-21 Thread David H. Bailey
You would have to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] to find out the company's official policy, but there is no option on their web-site to purchase any version earlier than 2003. Mark D. Lew wrote: > At 8:36 AM 06/20/02, David H. Bailey wrote: > > >>You should only be able to purchase Finale2003 a

Re: [Finale] relation system versus page percentage

2002-06-21 Thread David H. Bailey
I think you're going to have to experiment with this to give you the image that pleases your engraver's eye. I just ran a simple test, creating a test document, single staff, and made two copies. I did 85% page reduction on one and printed it, and did various staff percentage reductions on th

Re: [Finale] TAN: Public support for the arts

2002-06-21 Thread David H. Bailey
Andrew Stiller wrote: >>> This is not a life or death issue, like national defense, or public >>> safety, or desegregation. >> > > It is difficult > to get the news from poems > yet men die miserably every day > for lack > of what is found there. > Hear me out >

[Finale] FinWin2003 beam display problem

2002-06-21 Thread Rodney Waterman
Dear finale list I have been off-line for awhile (recovering from junk mail onslaught), so sorry if you have already addressed this: I have just installed FinWin 2003 (from 2002b) and immediately notice that the angular beams look much more jagged than ever before on the monitor. Flat beams l

Re: [Finale] relation system versus page percentage

2002-06-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.06.2002 12:12 Uhr, Jari Williamsson wrote > Johannes Gebauer writes: > >> I don't think system and page percentage show the same results in size, and >> I am trying to convert a document from page to system reduction. Has anyone >> a formula for this or can tell me how 85% page reduction w

Re: [Finale] relation system versus page percentage

2002-06-21 Thread Jari Williamsson
Johannes Gebauer writes: > I don't think system and page percentage show the same results in size, and > I am trying to convert a document from page to system reduction. Has anyone > a formula for this or can tell me how 85% page reduction would be expressed > in system reduction? What kind of P

Re: [Finale] Hopeless engraving

2002-06-21 Thread Pierre Bailleul
Good luck ... pierre. - Original Message - From: "Johannes Gebauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Finale list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 10:18 AM Subject: [Finale] Hopeless engraving > Imagine this: I have been given a few Finale files to clean up, that were > engraved

[Finale] Hopeless engraving

2002-06-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Imagine this: I have been given a few Finale files to clean up, that were engraved by someone else. All fingerings, Manual indications (organ music), tempoindications etc have been entered as _page text blocks_. And I am the person who has to clean everything up - meaning having to enter all of th

[Finale] TAN: Violin questions

2002-06-21 Thread Pierre Bailleul
Hi all, I'm working on an atonal violin part. I'd like to know the signification of : 1. a slashed breath mark (like a comma) ? 2. high notes whith up stems in a 1 layer staff ??? Thanks, pierre. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.s

Re: [Finale] How or where do you purchase Finale?

2002-06-21 Thread Jari Williamsson
David W. Fenton writes: > I really do like Win2K, so I'll be happy to use it all the time, but > people who badmouth Win95 really don't know what they are talking about. * Compiling big projects on Borland C++ Builder can easily freeze and crash the whole Win95. Performing the compile on the

[Finale] relation system versus page percentage

2002-06-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I don't think system and page percentage show the same results in size, and I am trying to convert a document from page to system reduction. Has anyone a formula for this or can tell me how 85% page reduction would be expressed in system reduction? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http