Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Mac Frustration

2004-04-01 Thread Eric Dannewitz
really now? I have a Quicksilver 933 with 768 megs of RAM and 10.3.3 and Finale 2004 runs great. I just got done with a score, and a patterns compilation. Finale was fast enough for me. However, working with the same files with my G4 450 cube, things are a lot slower. I see a big slow down in s

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Mac Frustration

2004-04-01 Thread Éric Dussault
I also am unable to get enough performance from my G4 (400MHz, 512 MB Ram, OS 10.3.3), even with some features turned off. It is s slow that I don't even consider using it for production because I can't afford to wait that much every time I edit something. I do like many of the improvemen

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Mac Frustration

2004-04-01 Thread Lon Price
On Apr 1, 2004, at 6:48 AM, John Hinchey wrote: Hi all, Is anyone able actually getting work done in a timely manner with Finale 2004 on a Mac G4? Perhaps this cpu is just not beefy enough to run this program. You think it would be. Is it running well on G5? I've got a G4 dual 800 and Final

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Mac Frustration

2004-04-01 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 4/1/04 6:48 AM, John Hinchey wrote: > Hi all, > > Is anyone able actually getting work done in a timely manner with > Finale 2004 on a Mac G4? Perhaps this cpu is > just not beefy enough to run this program. You think it would be. Is > it running well on G5? > > I've got a G4 dual 800 and

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 Mac Frustration

2004-04-01 Thread Fiskum, Steve
> From: John Hinchey > Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2004 8:48 AM > > Is anyone able actually getting work done in a timely manner with > Finale 2004 on a Mac G4? > No. It sits on a shelf and provides decoration to a very bland wall. > Still redraw is frustratingly slow. The new f

[Finale] Finale 2004 Mac Frustration

2004-04-01 Thread John Hinchey
Hi all, Is anyone able actually getting work done in a timely manner with Finale 2004 on a Mac G4? Perhaps this cpu is just not beefy enough to run this program. You think it would be. Is it running well on G5? I've got a G4 dual 800 and Finale runs so slow that is virtually useless as a t

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 and HP 1200

2004-03-30 Thread Giovanni Andreani
Hi John I've got a problem to, with Fin 2k4 and HP printer. I've got two printers connected to my Mac: an Epson Aculaser C4000 and an HP Desinjet 120. When I print to the Epson printer, there's no problem, but when I select the HP printer, Finale crashes telling me a not better specified error has

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 and HP 1200

2004-03-30 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 3/30/04 10:28 AM, John Hinchey wrote: > 2. Printer Model: select HP, scroll down and select HP Laserjet 6 > series, CUPS+Gimp+Print v4.2.5 In order to have this printer model as an option you must first install Gimp-Print (Works with Mac OS X 10.2 and later): http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net

[Finale] Finale 2004 and HP 1200

2004-03-30 Thread John Hinchey
Hi all, Don't know if this has been reported to the list yet or not. In addition to brutally sluggish performance of Finale 2004 on my Mac G4 dual 800 (1.25 gig of RAM/ OSX 10.3), I ran into an additional problem when I went to print from my first project completed ( in easily 50% more time th

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004: Speedy entry suddenly slow

2004-03-01 Thread Fisher, Allen
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Finale] Finale 2004: Speedy entry suddenly slow Thanks to Allen Fisher. Somehow the presence of lyrics in my score slowed down the speedy entry process

[Finale] Finale 2004: Speedy entry suddenly slow

2004-03-01 Thread boz
Thanks to Allen Fisher. Somehow the presence of lyrics in my score slowed down the speedy entry process. Once the lyrics were deleted, the speedy entry went back to normal. Thanks as always for the help, but I wonder if anyone knows why the presence of lyrics might slow down speedy entry? Thanks

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004: Speedy entry suddenly slow

2004-03-01 Thread Fisher, Allen
Do you have lyrics in the document? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: [Finale] Finale 2004: Speedy entry suddenly slow > Dear Finale list: > > My speedy entry in Finale 2004 has

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004: Speedy entry suddenly slow

2004-03-01 Thread Mr. Liudas Motekaitis
, just a little nervous. Liudas - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: [Finale] Finale 2004: Speedy entry suddenly slow > Dear Finale list: > > My speedy entry in Finale 2004 has suddenly sl

[Finale] Finale 2004: Speedy entry suddenly slow

2004-03-01 Thread boz
Dear Finale list: My speedy entry in Finale 2004 has suddenly slowed to a snails pace. I've performed various dianostics to optimize my hard drive etc., but that has not fixed the problem. I do have a very old machine (Gateway P5-100) and am using Windows 98. It's been perfectly tolerable up to

[Finale] Finale 2004 bug -- text blocks

2004-02-19 Thread Mr. Liudas Motekaitis
Windows 2000, Finale 2004: Erratic behaviour editing multi-page assigned text blocks. Sometimes the text moves to the side while editing, sometimes the spacing goes wild, sometimes, if the zoom is large enough, you cannot even see the text you are editing. The text returns to correct position after

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 for Mac...good news and bad news

2003-10-10 Thread Richard Huggins
I run Mac F2k2 using OS 8.6 on a non-G3 Powerbook 3400 with 3GB HD space, SCSCI-connected to a Powerbook 1400 (acting as a SCSI drive) for a total of 6 GB. The external PB is full up and the main PB has <1MB available. Until I can upgrade my CPU I will "upgrade" to OS 9 ( since I can't run OS X) an

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 for Mac...good news and bad news

2003-10-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 03:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was delighted to see the announcement of Finale 2004 for Mac, mainly because, after years of begging and begging, "smart hyphens" have finally been included!!! Yippee!!! And then I looked at the system requirements...Mac OS 9.

[Finale] Finale 2004 for Mac...good news and bad news

2003-10-10 Thread mbanner
I was delighted to see the announcement of Finale 2004 for Mac, mainly because, after years of begging and begging, "smart hyphens" have finally been included!!! Yippee!!! And then I looked at the system requirements...Mac OS 9.x, plus at least 200 MB of empty hard drive space. Let's see...I'm

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 - other bugs

2003-09-29 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 6:29 PM 09/29/03, Kurt Gnos wrote: >I have a song and enter some lyrics. Now I copy something and change the >lyrics of the copied part --> now the "old" part, where I copied the lyrics >from, will change, too. Removing the lyrics of the new part using mass >mover - remove only - items - lyrics

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 - other bugs

2003-09-29 Thread Craig Parmerlee
At 10:17 AM 9/29/2003 -0700, Brad Beyenhof wrote: If you copy a section, both the original and the copy will then be pointing to the same location in the "Edit Lyrics" dialog box. Thus, changing the word in the copy changes that location in the underlying lyrics. By extension, then, this will

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 - other bugs

2003-09-29 Thread Kurt Gnos
Thanks, Brad, now I understand why it goes wrong;-) But wouldn't it be nice if finale also copied the text in Edit Lyrics, or at least we had an option for Finale to behave like that? I do a lot of arrangements right now, and often I first make a "original" arrangement by listening and writing

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 - other bugs

2003-09-29 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 09:29 AM, Kurt Gnos wrote: I have a song and enter some lyrics. Now I copy something and change the lyrics of the copied part --> now the "old" part, where I copied the lyrics from, will change, too. Removing the lyrics of the new part using mass mover - remov

[Finale] Finale 2004 - other bugs

2003-09-29 Thread Kurt Gnos
besides my EPS exasperation there are other bugs, some of them old "friends", e.g.: I have a song and enter some lyrics. Now I copy something and change the lyrics of the copied part --> now the "old" part, where I copied the lyrics from, will change, too. Removing the lyrics of the new part us

[Finale] Finale 2004 EPS

2003-09-16 Thread Kurt Gnos
Hi, Finale 2004 EPS export - somebody got it working? Won't work for me, and I tried a lot. Kurt ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004: Let the Bugs Begin

2003-08-30 Thread David H. Bailey
I just tried your "bug" (I run Win98se) and both pages remained visible. Perhaps it is more a Finale/WinXP (stands for extra problems) combination "bug" than merely a Finale "bug." I assume the second page remains visible when you work on the same file in Fin2003 in page view? At any rate I ho

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004: Let the Bugs Begin

2003-08-30 Thread Tobias Giesen
> Has anyone seen this: when multiple page view/page > view is enabled, using Speedy Entry causes the 2nd > page to disappear. This doesn't happen on my machine. What view percentage and screen and color resolution are you using? > This WAS beta tested, right? Yes. Some things might still be

[Finale] Finale 2004: Let the Bugs Begin

2003-08-29 Thread K. Kastning
Greetings, Finale-ists:   Just received my Finale 2004 upgrade and have installed it (Windows XP Pro).  I found what could be the first bug of the new version.  Has anyone seen this: when multiple page view/page view is enabled, using Speedy Entry causes the 2nd page to disappear.  Every tim

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-28 Thread Fisher, Allen
chard Huggins'; Finale List Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival Fisher, Allen wrote: > Hi Richard, > > We've added a new feature to Simple called the Simple Entry Caret. Like RP > mentioned, you select a duration, then play notes on your MIDI keyboard, ala > s

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-28 Thread David H. Bailey
Fisher, Allen wrote: Hi Richard, We've added a new feature to Simple called the Simple Entry Caret. Like RP mentioned, you select a duration, then play notes on your MIDI keyboard, ala speedy w/capslock. Here's a big difference between Simple and Speedy--you can "repitch"--copy a line to anothe

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Fisher, Allen
day, August 27, 2003 11:03 AM To: Finale List Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival > From: "Fisher, Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yes. Using Finale's new simple entry you can use a MIDI keyboard. (For me > personally, I prefer it to speedy in most situations)

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Jari Williamsson
Éric Dussault writes: > One simple question. I don't want to use the Sibelius A B C D E F G letters > scheme. This is the one thing in which Finale is superior when entering > notes. Will I be able to enter notes with the 3 rows-octaves keyboard scheme > I am used to in speedy with the new simple

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Richard Huggins
Thanks for the descriptions of how Simple will work. I think there was a small misunderstanding--I'm not trying to learn how to use it; I don't own F2K4 and can't get it until October. I'm just very curious about it given all the favorable comparisons to Speedy Entry. Richard

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Craig Parmerlee
At 12:13 PM 8/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: Okay...anyone EXCEPT for Robert? (:>) I haven't spent any time on it, but I did spend my lunch hour studying Chapter 15 of the documentation. I suggest you print off that chapter and study it in detail. There is going to be a learning curve with this to

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 08:08 AM, Rick Neal wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. I have tried updating the layout and respacing several different ways but it still doesn't help. Maybe I should try exporting it as a graphic and sending it to Peter Schickele in case he needs it for his n

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Richard Huggins
Okay...anyone EXCEPT for Robert? (:>) RH > From: "Robert Patterson Finale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Like Speedy caps lock. > Like the Sibelius demo. > > (Doing it yourself is worth 1000 times being told how it works.) ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PRO

Re: Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Rick Neal
find a solution Rick ---Original Message--- From: Brad Beyenhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 08/27/03 09:56 AM To: Finale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival > > On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 05:35 AM, Rick Neal wrote: > I got my WinF

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> -Original Message- > From: Richard Huggins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Okay, I'm beggin' here...I still can't decipher how it works. Like Speedy caps lock. Like the Sibelius demo. (Doing it yourself is worth 1000 times being told how it works.) ___

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
My observations with respect to Sibelius step mode and Fin04 Speedy are in relation to how they work with midi keyboard. I've never investigated with program with respect to how to enter notes w/o a midi keyboard. > -Original Message- > From: Éric Dussault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Richard Huggins
> From: "Fisher, Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yes. Using Finale's new simple entry you can use a MIDI keyboard. (For me > personally, I prefer it to speedy in most situations) Okay, I'm beggin' here...I still can't decipher how it works. Could you or someone provide a somewhat more detailed descr

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Éric Dussault
Le 27/08/03 11:25, "Robert Patterson Finale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit: > >> My question is, is there some relationship between MIDI entry and the new >> Simple Entry? > > You bet there is. This is what it took me 6 months to "get". As I said before, > it works similarly to Speedy with caps lo

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Fisher, Allen
inale] Finale 2004 arrival My question is, is there some relationship between MIDI entry and the new Simple Entry? I'm having a really hard time imagining what can be so great about entering a five-note chord one note at a time (the old Simple) vs. all at once (the old Speedy). I'm usin

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> -Original Message- > From: Richard Huggins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > My question is, is there some relationship between MIDI entry and the new > Simple Entry? You bet there is. This is what it took me 6 months to "get". As I said before, it works similarly to Speedy with caps lock o

[Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Mario Aschauer
You are definitely right! I have been a "hyper-scribe-midi-keyboard-enterer" since day one. I have never really understood how speedy works. But this now is really great. It works like a type-writer for music. And it's so fast once you get used to it. I am wondering whether this might be faster tha

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Richard Huggins
e wrong space or line and thus undo the work. Richard > From: "Robert Patterson Finale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:40:39 +0000 > To: "Finale List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 20

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 05:35 AM, Rick Neal wrote: I got my WinFin 2K4 yesterday. So far I really like what I've seen and heard. I have run into one problem which I'm hoping someone will be able to help clear up. All the files from previous versions opened up and were converted to th

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I've been looking at the new Fin04 features (without being able to *use* any of them--don't think beta testing is any bed of roses) for nearly six months. Yet it took me until yesterday to notice one of the best improvements in it: Simple Note Entry. Are you a Speedy addict? Have you ever tried

[Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Rick Neal
I got my WinFin 2K4 yesterday. So far I really like what I've seen and heard. I have run into one problem which I'm hoping someone will be able to help clear up. All the files from previous versions opened up and were converted to the new format seamlessly except for one. Wouldn't you know it's

[Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Mario Aschauer
Hooray, Mine is here, too! For the first time in my life I am a proud owner of a Finale T-Shirt. Wow! The new hyphens work really well (one has to turn them on in documents created on older versions, though) and distances are specified easily. It's just that now we all have to clean up our

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 - EPS problems WinXP

2003-08-25 Thread Mike Cholewa
use ATM. Mike Cholewa > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Kurt Gnos > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:17 PM > To: Mike Cholewa; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 - EPS problems WinXP > > Mike, &

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 - EPS problems WinXP

2003-08-25 Thread Kurt Gnos
ke Cholewa > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Kurt Gnos > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 9:02 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Finale] Finale 2004 - EPS problems WinXP > > Hi everyone, > > at first: Finale 2004 w

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 - EPS problems WinXP

2003-08-25 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 12:01 PM, Kurt Gnos wrote: Hi everyone, at first: Finale 2004 works great, is great, and anyway I never expected it to arrive so fast here (Switzerland). I just watched the new quick start videos. They are great, as opposed to the Visual Demos which are a p.i.t.a

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 - EPS problems WinXP

2003-08-25 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Kurt Gnos wrote: > Anyway - I HOPED - and tried to get EPS working (once (98, 2000, or > earlier?) it had...) But the fonts don't get imbedded right, and so nothing > but a thin vertical line will print. Quark Xpress will show the preview > fine, Word (Office XP) not at all. I really hoped this

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 - EPS problems WinXP

2003-08-25 Thread Mike Cholewa
3 9:02 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Finale] Finale 2004 - EPS problems WinXP > > Hi everyone, > > at first: Finale 2004 works great, is great, and anyway I never expected > it > to arrive so fast here (Switzerland). > I just watched the new quick start videos.

[Finale] Finale 2004 - EPS problems WinXP

2003-08-25 Thread Kurt Gnos
Hi everyone, at first: Finale 2004 works great, is great, and anyway I never expected it to arrive so fast here (Switzerland). I just watched the new quick start videos. They are great, as opposed to the Visual Demos which are a p.i.t.a...;-) Anyway - I HOPED - and tried to get EPS working (onc

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-24 Thread RockyRoad
Right. People who get college degrees get higher-paying jobs and can afford more. By the time those people are higher paying jobs they will no longer be eligible for academic pricing. Its only while at college. I doubt a company would base its academic pricing on your potential future earnings

[Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-23 Thread Bruce Hunter
Greetings! Delurking long enough to advise my copy of WinFin 2004 arrived mid-afternoon 8/22. Installed on (Windoze98) and registered and no apparent running problems, but then again, no deadlines are looming. Some menu items have been moved for who knows what reason. My system apparently does

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-22 Thread Mark D Lew
On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 02:39 AM, John Croft wrote: Well, I'd be in favour of a struggling artist discount as well -- only, it's easier to decide who is really a student that assess people's claims really to be an artist. I can show a resume full of performances which were done for cheap

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 shipping?

2003-08-22 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:55 PM 8/22/2003, Fisher, Allen wrote: >We shipped a some yesterday, and a TON of them are going out today. Cut us >some slack, eh? :-) We're less than 24 hours off our annouced ship date.  Thanks for this info. My original question wasn't angry at all -- it's just that when I know I'm expec

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-22 Thread David W. Fenton
On 22 Aug 2003 at 11:39, John Croft wrote: > My point was that the > principle of offering lower prices to those who (1) need to have > software in order to complete their studies and (2) have a very low > income, is not something that we should complain about. Another thing that I think people

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 shipping?

2003-08-22 Thread Fisher, Allen
: David H. Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 5:15 AM To: Bruce K H Kau Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 shipping? Confirmation numbers (which I received the instantly) are NOT tracking numbers for shipments. Those are the numbers you can enter

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-22 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 07:29 AM 8/22/2003, Phil Daley wrote: >Someone pointed out to me that I should wait for the next Pre-something >release as I already have an old version and would then get a better >discount than the professional one. Even ordering the regular, non-pre-order upgrade to 2004 will be about half

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-22 Thread Phil Daley
At 8/21/2003 03:54 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: >This is also why one shouldn't get upset about paying $1,400 for an >airline seat at the gate and sitting next to someone who paid $200 -- That's me, I flew from Manchester, NH to San Diego 2 weeks ago for $99. Someone pointed out to me that I should

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-22 Thread John Croft
On Thursday, Aug 21, 2003, at 22:13 Europe/London, John Howell wrote: Perhaps Dr Croft could confirm that in the English system of higher education "scholar"ships were originally awarded on merit to "scholars" who could not live off daddy's money becuase daddy didn't have enough to send them to

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-22 Thread John Croft
On Thursday, Aug 21, 2003, at 21:37 Europe/London, Mark D Lew wrote: Right. People who get college degrees get higher-paying jobs and can afford more. Sometimes they do. Often they don't (music being a case in point). The point is that they then pay full price for software, when they can affor

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-22 Thread David H. Bailey
When I ordered my copy from jwpepper on a theological discount (our community band is an off-shoot of the local church) I asked how I had to prove my association to receive the discount. They told me what sort of materials Coda Music Technology required and that if I satisfied Coda, I was all

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 shipping?

2003-08-22 Thread David H. Bailey
Confirmation numbers (which I received the instantly) are NOT tracking numbers for shipments. Those are the numbers you can enter at the UPS or FEDEX web site to track your package to have an idea when it will arrive at your house. They are assigned when the package ships, while confirmation

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 shipping?

2003-08-21 Thread Bruce K H Kau
I got my confirmation almost instantly. the email was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also made a PDF of the web page with my confirmation number on it, just in case. At 05:06 PM 8/21/2003 -0400, Aaron Sherber wrote: >Hi all, > >Have any of the pre-order Win folks gotten an email with a tracking number

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Carlberg Jones wrote wrote, in part: > : > > MTNA = Music Teachers National Association > > http://www.mtna.org/home.htm > to which Phil daily responded, i part > An how does joining that group certify that my wife is a music teacher > more than giving 30+ years of piano lessons to 50+ students

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Harold Owen
What is MTNA? Phil Daley < AutoDesk > Music Teachers National Association. But membership on the faculty of a college with a music department is sufficient to get the discount. Hal -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at: http:/

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 shipping?

2003-08-21 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:19 PM 8/21/2003, David H. Bailey wrote: >I just checked my account (6:17 EDT, 8/21/03) and my order for the >upgrade to WinFin2004 is sitting there in the Order History log with no >tracking number,  Yeah, that's what I see. On the other hand, I think that before yesterday it showed an orde

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 shipping?

2003-08-21 Thread David H. Bailey
I just checked my account (6:17 EDT, 8/21/03) and my order for the upgrade to WinFin2004 is sitting there in the Order History log with no tracking number, so apparently either August 20 was optimistic on their part or they are so busy shoving boxes onto UPS trucks that they haven't been able t

[Finale] Finale 2004 shipping?

2003-08-21 Thread Aaron Sherber
Hi all, Have any of the pre-order Win folks gotten an email with a tracking number yet? Or seen a tracking number on their account screen at MakeMusic? (Okay, so I'm a little impatient, but I thought it was supposed to ship yesterday.) Aaron. ___ Fi

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Dr. Gordon J. Callon
> That's approximately how I feel about academic discounts. I > understand the software company's motivation for offering them, of > course, but it still ticks me off to know that kids who are living off > their parents and/or taxpayers get a better deal than others who have > to work for a living

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Mark D Lew
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 07:21 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: Like Allen Fisher said, if it weren't for the academic discount on Finale, I definitely would not have the job I have today. Right. People who get college degrees get higher-paying jobs and can afford more. If the rationale is to

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Ken Durling
And, lest we forget, academic discounts apply to teachers too, who are not exactly overpaid. Ken - Original Message - From: "John Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review &

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 01:03 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: At 01:53 PM 8/21/2003 -0400, Phil Daley wrote: At 8/21/2003 01:42 PM, Carlberg Jones wrote: >MTNA = Music Teachers National Association > >http://www.mtna.org/home.htm An how does joining that group certify that my wife is a music

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Richard Huggins
> From: Phil Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > An how does joining that group certify that my wife is a music teacher more > than giving 30+ years of piano lessons to 50+ students a week? Why the challenging tone? There are professional organizations aplenty, and only in a few instances is it essenti

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread John Howell
On Wednesday, Aug 20, 2003, at 21:40 Europe/London, Mark D Lew wrote: That's approximately how I feel about academic discounts. I understand the software company's motivation for offering them, of course, but it still ticks me off to know that kids who are living off their parents and/or taxpa

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Craig Parmerlee
At 01:53 PM 8/21/2003 -0400, Phil Daley wrote: At 8/21/2003 01:42 PM, Carlberg Jones wrote: >MTNA = Music Teachers National Association > >http://www.mtna.org/home.htm An how does joining that group certify that my wife is a music teacher more than giving 30+ years of piano lessons to 50+ student

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Aug 2003 at 13:53, Phil Daley wrote: > At 8/21/2003 01:42 PM, Carlberg Jones wrote: > > >MTNA = Music Teachers National Association > > > >http://www.mtna.org/home.htm > > An how does joining that group certify that my wife is a music teacher > more than giving 30+ years of piano lesson

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 11:57 AM, Tobias Giesen wrote: Every request must have some proof I doubt that. It seems to depend on where you order. Well, I was only talking about ordering from Coda. I'm sure there are unscrupulous dealers out there who don't check. - Brad Beyen

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Tobias Giesen
> Every request must have some proof I doubt that. It seems to depend on where you order. Cheers, Tobias ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 10:53 AM, Phil Daley wrote: At 8/21/2003 01:42 PM, Carlberg Jones wrote: >MTNA = Music Teachers National Association > >http://www.mtna.org/home.htm An how does joining that group certify that my wife is a music teacher more than giving 30+ years of piano lesson

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 1:53 PM -0400 8/21/03, Phil Daley wrote: >An how does joining that group [MTNA] certify that my wife is a music >teacher more >than giving 30+ years of piano lessons to 50+ students a week? About the same way that belonging to a musicians union certifies that a person is a professional musicia

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Phil Daley
At 8/21/2003 01:42 PM, Carlberg Jones wrote: >MTNA = Music Teachers National Association > >http://www.mtna.org/home.htm An how does joining that group certify that my wife is a music teacher more than giving 30+ years of piano lessons to 50+ students a week? Phil Daley < AutoDesk > htt

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread David H. Bailey
Private music teachers have to belong to a nationally recognized organization such as Music Teachers of America (I think that's the name) or Suzuki Association of the Americas. Just the ordinary musician who teaches music lessons is s$#t out of luck! Phil Daley wrote: At 8/21/2003 11:21 AM,

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Fisher, Allen
entirely. http://www.mtna.org/home.htm -Original Message- From: Phil Daley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:33 PM To: Finale Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review At 8/21/2003 01:18 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: > >On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 09:40 AM, Phil D

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 10:24 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 12:40 PM 8/21/2003, Phil Daley wrote: >Since I am running 3.7.2 perhaps I should upgrade, since my wife is a >private music teacher. The academic upgrade only applies to full-price purchases -- subsequent upgrades are the same p

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Phil Daley
At 8/21/2003 01:18 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: > >On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 09:40 AM, Phil Daley wrote: > >> At 8/21/2003 11:21 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: >> >> >I think it's a smart business decision... Coda (for that is what they >> >were called at the time) sure hooked me on their product fo

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:40 PM 8/21/2003, Phil Daley wrote: >Since I am running 3.7.2 perhaps I should upgrade, since my wife is a >private music teacher. The academic upgrade only applies to full-price purchases -- subsequent upgrades are the same price for everybody. So while it would cost you $300 to buy Finale

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 09:40 AM, Phil Daley wrote: At 8/21/2003 11:21 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: >I think it's a smart business decision... Coda (for that is what they >were called at the time) sure hooked me on their product for a lifetime >by extending the academic discount. Also, yo

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Phil Daley
At 8/21/2003 11:21 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: >I think it's a smart business decision... Coda (for that is what they >were called at the time) sure hooked me on their product for a lifetime >by extending the academic discount. Also, you must remember that the >academic discount covers not only coll

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 06:22 PM, John Croft wrote: On Wednesday, Aug 20, 2003, at 21:40 Europe/London, Mark D Lew wrote: That's approximately how I feel about academic discounts. I understand the software company's motivation for offering them, of course, but it still ticks me off

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-21 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
On Wednesday, Aug 20, 2003, at 21:40 Europe/London, Mark D Lew wrote: That's approximately how I feel about academic discounts. I understand the software company's motivation for offering them, of course, but it still ticks me off to know that kids who are living off their parents and/or taxp

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-20 Thread John Croft
On Wednesday, Aug 20, 2003, at 21:40 Europe/London, Mark D Lew wrote: That's approximately how I feel about academic discounts. I understand the software company's motivation for offering them, of course, but it still ticks me off to know that kids who are living off their parents and/or taxpa

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-20 Thread Fisher, Allen
>>That's approximately how I feel about academic discounts. I understand the software company's motivation for offering them, of course, but it still ticks me off to know that kids who are living off their parents and/or taxpayers get a better deal than others who have to work for a living.<<

RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-20 Thread David W. Fenton
On 20 Aug 2003 at 0:14, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > At 11:47 PM 8/19/2003 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: > >Outrage is not a relevant reason for making a business decision. The > >only reason is: this will make more money in the long run. Changing > >your product to try to force money from people that

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-20 Thread Mark D Lew
On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 07:47 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Outrage is not a relevant reason for making a business decision. The only reason is: this will make more money in the long run. Now there's an interesting observation. It could explain a lot about the business world -- On Tues

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-20 Thread Craig Parmerlee
At 05:48 AM 8/20/2003 -0400, David H. Bailey wrote: >You know of people using pirated versions of Finale yet >you didn't contact MakeMusic, so they could do something >about the very piracy that has forced them to take the stand >of including copy protection. What principle is that? I believe they

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-20 Thread David H. Bailey
Craig Parmerlee wrote: [snip] I realize you are thinking about a different set of principles, but that doesn't make Finale's value judgment wrong. I personally know a number of people who have stolen the Finale software in the past, and most of them are not clever enough to locate a crack f

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