Re: [Finale] Tan: Henle engraving video

2006-10-04 Thread Stan Lord
I'd love to see this but the URL doesn't work for me. It comes up in German "Die Seite wurde nicht gefunden"Which my friend tells me means site not found.Any ideas?Stan LordOn 23 Sep 2006, at 22:11, Randolph Peters wrote:If you want to see music engraving done "old school," there is a fascinating

Re: [Finale] Tan: Henle engraving video

2006-10-04 Thread Eric Dannewitz
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q8adEIMzbso Stan Lord wrote: I'd love to see this but the URL doesn't work for me. It comes up in German Die Seite wurde nicht gefunden Which my friend tells me means site not found. Any ideas? Stan Lord On 23 Sep 2006, at 22:11, Randolph Peters wrote: If you want

Re: [Finale] Tan: Henle engraving video

2006-10-04 Thread dhbailey
Stan Lord wrote: I'd love to see this but the URL doesn't work for me. It comes up in German Die Seite wurde nicht gefunden Which my friend tells me means site not found. Any ideas? I just clicked on it and got the same response -- perhaps there was too much traffic for the site to bear.

[Finale] Problem chapter two

2006-10-04 Thread Barbara Touburg
My earlier problem was caused by Update Layout not working. Would anyone please be so kind to download my file (http://tinyurl.com/n2wqs), update the layout from page 1 and sending it back to me? I'll be working in scroll view from now (back to the middele ages) and in the mean time try to

Re: [Finale] Problem chapter two

2006-10-04 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 04.10.2006 Barbara Touburg wrote: My earlier problem was caused by Update Layout not working. Would anyone please be so kind to download my file (http://tinyurl.com/n2wqs), update the layout from page 1 and sending it back to me? I'll be working in scroll view from now (back to the middele

Re: [Finale] Problem chapter two

2006-10-04 Thread Barbara Touburg
Barbara Touburg wrote: My earlier problem was caused by Update Layout not working. Would anyone please be so kind to download my file (http://tinyurl.com/n2wqs), update the layout from page 1 and sending it back to me? I'll be working in scroll view from now (back to the middele ages) and in

Re: [Finale] Problem chapter two

2006-10-04 Thread Barbara Touburg
Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 04.10.2006 Barbara Touburg wrote: My earlier problem was caused by Update Layout not working. Would anyone please be so kind to download my file (http://tinyurl.com/n2wqs), update the layout from page 1 and sending it back to me? I'll be working in scroll view from

Re: [Finale] Problem chapter two

2006-10-04 Thread Richard Yates
I get a message 'pagina niet gevonden' for that link. - Original Message - From: Barbara Touburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 4:19 AM Subject: [Finale] Problem chapter two My earlier problem was caused by Update Layout not working. Would

Re: [Finale] Problem chapter two

2006-10-04 Thread Godofredo Romero
the link to that page seems to be wrong, cant be opened. please fix that and i'll be glad to give it a try. GR Barbara Touburg wrote: My earlier problem was caused by Update Layout not working. Would anyone please be so kind to download my file (http://tinyurl.com/n2wqs), update the layout

Re: [Finale] Problem chapter two

2006-10-04 Thread Barbara Touburg
Godofredo Romero wrote: the link to that page seems to be wrong, cant be opened. please fix that and i'll be glad to give it a try. GR Barbara Touburg wrote: My earlier problem was caused by Update Layout not working. Would anyone please be so kind to download my file

Re: [Finale] Tan: Henle engraving video

2006-10-04 Thread Gerald Berg
Thanx for that Eric. Been dying to see it. Talk about knowing the music backwards! Jerry On 4-Oct-06, at 3:18 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q8adEIMzbso Gerald Berg ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

[Finale] MusicXML 1.2 project starting soon

2006-10-04 Thread Michael Good
dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XML does seem to be the best standard for exchanging music notation files. Thanks! MusicXML support is up to over 60 applications now, and the quality of the translations keeps getting better over time. We are about to start development on the next version of

[Finale] Re: capella to Finale

2006-10-04 Thread Michael Good
dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CapToMusic seems to give excellent results with some files. But with others, it generates incomprehensible (for me and at least one other person) error messages, and the resulting XML files won't import into Finale. Thanks for the feedback. If you can e-mail me

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 3 Oct 2006 at 22:31, Éric Dussault wrote: Le 06-10-02 à 22:01, David W. Fenton a écrit : How so? It is only a problem when Finale uses the wrong enharmonic spelling. If you hit a black key you get either a flat or a sharp, according to the enharmonic mapping in place for the key in

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread Chuck Israels
On Oct 4, 2006, at 11:44 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: And entry by computer keyboard still takes other passes for entering articulations and expressions, so it's not like there's much of a difference there. -- If, like me, you are still in the habit of using Speedy Entry. The MM guys I see

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread Daniel Wolf
David W. Fenton wrote: For 6 years I had no MIDI keyboard, so I know that the MIDI keyboard is *much* faster for me. The key qualification here is for me; other users, with different musical and data entry skills, as well as quite different musical projects, will necessarily have

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Yeah, me too But, if you can do articulations and dynamics.I might need to check it out... Chuck Israels wrote: If, like me, you are still in the habit of using Speedy Entry. The MM guys I see every year at the Jazz Educator's Convention use Simple entry with a

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Oct 2006 at 12:19, Chuck Israels wrote: On Oct 4, 2006, at 11:44 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: And entry by computer keyboard still takes other passes for entering articulations and expressions, so it's not like there's much of a difference there. If, like me, you are still in the

Re: [Finale] MusicXML 1.2 project starting soon

2006-10-04 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Michael Good / 2006/10/04 / 02:25 PM wrote: MusicXML support is up to over 60 applications now, and the quality of the translations keeps getting better over time. How about from newer Fin version to older one, say FinMac2007 to FinMac2005? If it is possible, i.e., 2007 created file converting

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Oct 4, 2006, at 2:44 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 3 Oct 2006 at 22:31, Éric Dussault wrote: Le 06-10-02 à 22:01, David W. Fenton a écrit : How so? It is only a problem when Finale uses the wrong enharmonic spelling. If you hit a black key you get either a flat or a sharp, according to

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Oct 2006 at 21:28, Daniel Wolf wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: For 6 years I had no MIDI keyboard, so I know that the MIDI keyboard is *much* faster for me. The key qualification here is for me; I have never claimed otherwise. I was just responding to someone trying to convince me

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 04 Oct 2006, at 3:39 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: The MM guys I see every year at the Jazz Educator's Convention use Simple entry with a MIDI Keyboard, and that allows articulations and dynamics to be entered on the same pass with the same tool. They claim something like 40% increase in entry

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Oct 2006 at 15:45, Christopher Smith wrote: So David, I would respectfully submit that it is possible for two people to use different work flow methods that are the fastest method for each of them. Saying that it is absolutely faster to switch enharmonics on the second pass rather

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 4 Oct 2006 at 15:45, Christopher Smith wrote: So David, I would respectfully submit that it is possible for two people to use different work flow methods that are the fastest method for each of them. Saying that it is absolutely faster to switch enharmonics on the

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 04 Oct 2006, at 3:45 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: I've gotten to the point where I know what Finale is going to enter (sharp or flat) so I can hit 9 to enharmonically flip it without even looking, before entering the next note. Chris, have you run into trouble with this in Finale 2007?

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 04 Oct 2006, at 3:39 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: The MM guys I see every year at the Jazz Educator's Convention use Simple entry with a MIDI Keyboard, and that allows articulations and dynamics to be entered on the same pass with the same tool. They claim something

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 04 Oct 2006, at 4:22 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: How do you switch between expressions and articulations? On Mac, opt-A to add an expression (or cmd-opt-shift-A to add a sticky expression that will apply to all subsequent notes until cancelled). Opt-X (or just X) to add an expression.

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread Chuck Israels
On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:23 PM, dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: On 04 Oct 2006, at 3:39 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: The MM guys I see every year at the Jazz Educator's Convention use Simple entry with a MIDI Keyboard, and that allows articulations and dynamics to be entered on the

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread Chuck Israels
See! I told you guys. Darcy, are you using this now? Chuck On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 04 Oct 2006, at 4:22 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: How do you switch between expressions and articulations? On Mac, opt-A to add an expression (or cmd-opt-shift-A to add a

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread music
On 04 Oct 2006, at 3:39 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: The MM guys I see every year at the Jazz Educator's Convention use Simple entry with a MIDI Keyboard, and that allows articulations and dynamics to be entered on the same pass with the same tool. They claim something like 40% increase in entry

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Oct 4, 2006, at 4:13 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 04 Oct 2006, at 3:45 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: I've gotten to the point where I know what Finale is going to enter (sharp or flat) so I can hit 9 to enharmonically flip it without even looking, before entering the next note.

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chuck, I haven't made the switch yet. I know I should, because it will eventually be faster, once I get over the learning curve. But I'm always on deadline and I never seem to have the time to re-train myself. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Oct 2006 at 13:45, Chuck Israels wrote: On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:23 PM, dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: On 04 Oct 2006, at 3:39 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: The MM guys I see every year at the Jazz Educator's Convention use Simple entry with a MIDI Keyboard, and that allows

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: [snip] I tried it out in the Finale 2005 demo. It feels a lot like Sibelius's standard keypad entry method. And that means I HATE IT. I don't think that way about getting the information into Finale, and that's one of the reasons I can't use Sibelius. It slows me

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread Chuck Israels
I find myself aligned with the two Davids - thinking about and entering the music more or less the way they describe as natural to them, but I can't tell if that's because Finale's Speedy Entry methods have trained me to be that way, or if Speedy just suits my way of operating. My jury

[Finale] Wandering augmentation dots?

2006-10-04 Thread Williams, Jim
List members... I seem to recall an earlier discussion of wandering augmentation dots--dots become separated from the notes they're supposed to augment. I got bitten by that a few times on a recent project. Are there reproducible steps leading to this bug? If so I'd like to know them so I can

Re: [Finale] Wandering augmentation dots?

2006-10-04 Thread John T Sylvanis
Silly question: Do Sibelius and Finale have a sequencer and a sampler? Thanks, John. On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 21:55:50 -0400 "Williams, Jim" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: List members... I seem to recall an earlier discussion of "wandering" augmentation dots--dots become separated from the notes

RE: [Finale] Wandering augmentation dots?

2006-10-04 Thread Williams, Jim
No, Finale is not a sequencer, nor is Sibelius... Finale has a built-in softsynth and comes with SOME sampled sounds from the Garritan Personal Orchestra sound library. Finale can be used in conjunction with any VST instrument manufactured by Native Instruments (NI). Hope this helps. If you

RE: [Finale] Wandering augmentation dots?

2006-10-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Oct 2006 at 22:12, Williams, Jim wrote: No, Finale is not a sequencer, nor is Sibelius... But you can edit MIDI data and save the file as MIDI. That makes it a sequencer, seems to me, but maybe you have a different definition of the term. -- David W. Fenton

RE: [Finale] Wandering augmentation dots?

2006-10-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:25 PM 10/4/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: On 4 Oct 2006 at 22:12, Williams, Jim wrote: No, Finale is not a sequencer, nor is Sibelius... But you can edit MIDI data and save the file as MIDI. That makes it a sequencer, seems to me, but maybe you have a different definition of the term.

RE: [Finale] Wandering augmentation dots?

2006-10-04 Thread Williams, Jim
Yes, David, I would have a different definition of a sequencer. I find the MIDI tool to be rather unwieldy in Finale. My definition of a sequencer would include some kind of editable piano-roll view as well as the ability to draw controller data using a mouse and edit MIDI at the event-list

RE: [Finale] Wandering augmentation dots?

2006-10-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Oct 2006 at 22:47, Williams, Jim wrote: Yes, David, I would have a different definition of a sequencer. Well, I'd say you're using a completely incorrect and idiosyncratic definition. I find the MIDI tool to be rather unwieldy in Finale. I don't think anyone will disagree with that.

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-04 Thread Richard Smith
dhbailey wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: [snip] I tried it out in the Finale 2005 demo. It feels a lot like Sibelius's standard keypad entry method. And that means I HATE IT. I don't think that way about getting the information into Finale, and that's one of the reasons I can't use Sibelius.