Re: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi all,I had no idea that my"signature" was being received as an attachment.  I thought it was in the body of the emails.Is this a bother to anyone?No one has ever mentioned it.ChuckOn Oct 11, 2006, at 9:01 PM, Williams, Jim wrote: Thanks for the info, Chuck...I didn't know about that. I'll see if

RE: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread Williams, Jim
OH, NO...   I just can't win... I'm not getting a doubled version of the message myself. I have my Finale list options set to receive my own posts, and I'm not "seeing double." What's worse, there is no option to UNinstall the S/MIME control. Well, a few more minutes until I knock off... From:

RE: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 23:37, Williams, Jim wrote: > Could this whole point become moot if Henry simply set things at his > end to block all attachments? I think Chuck Israels sent a "bona fide" > attachment yesterday or today, but I usually don't see that many real > attachments here, or do I just not

RE: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 23:41, Williams, Jim wrote: > OK--it APPEARS I got rid of ONE attachment by reinstalling some kind > of S/MIME control that I had installed earlier in OWA. It doesn't say > what the control is or does--perhaps some of you know--but it SEEMS to > have zapped ONE of the attachment

RE: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread Williams, Jim
David, All this makes sense about the "de-commoditizing," etc., and is typical MS. I did notice--in one other group to which I post--that a message comes back:   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]   I assume that it refers to the attachments, as I see it frequently on others'

RE: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread Williams, Jim
Thanks for the info, Chuck...I didn't know about that. I'll see if it exists on PC platform. Also...I see you have the ONE small attachment as well, the little signature of 198 bytes.   Jim From: Chuck IsraelsSent: Wed 11-Oct-06 23:49To: finale@shsu.eduSubject: Re: [Finale] Getting rid of the

RE: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 23:32, John Howell wrote: > At 11:19 PM -0400 10/11/06, Williams, Jim wrote: > >Yes, David, that's it--replies only. > >A question arises, though: why are these attachments viewed by some > >people as (ob)noxious? I could see an issue, perhaps, if people are > >on dialup or bille

Re: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Jim,No, it wasn't an attachment that I sent.  It was simply a URL link to my .mac account where whoever needed the file could download it.  There is a slick $15 utility called FileChute that makes that kind of thing simple to do.  I recommend it to anyone who needs to put things where other peop

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Major, Disruptive and rushed? There have been a number of Major shifts. I can remember, vaguely, the shift from System 6 to 7. Then from 8 to 9. Then from Motorola 68K chips to PPC. Then from 9 to OS X. Apple has always given you the choice of going with them or not, and they have made great st

RE: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread Williams, Jim
OK--it APPEARS I got rid of ONE attachment by reinstalling some kind of  S/MIME control that I had installed earlier in OWA.  It doesn't say what the control is or does--perhaps some of you know--but it SEEMS to have zapped ONE of the attachments--the repeated message. Let's see how THIS one wor

RE: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 23:19, Williams, Jim wrote: > Yes, David, that's it--replies only. > A question arises, though: why are these attachments viewed by some > people as (ob)noxious? I could see an issue, perhaps, if people are on > dialup or billed by the byte, but the attachments are actually quite

RE: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread John Howell
At 11:19 PM -0400 10/11/06, Williams, Jim wrote: Yes, David, that's it--replies only. A question arises, though: why are these attachments viewed by some people as (ob)noxious? I could see an issue, perhaps, if people are on dialup or billed by the byte, but the attachments are actually quite

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Eric Dannewitz
As both a Windows and Mac user, I'd say never. Cause Windows XP, in my experience, never boots right if you pull a motherboard and try to boot with your old system. And, if it does boot, Windows knows you've changed systems, and you need to re-authenticate it. You basically have to devote hours

RE: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread Williams, Jim
Could this whole point become moot if Henry simply set things at his end to block all attachments? I think Chuck Israels sent a "bona fide" attachment yesterday or today, but I usually don't see that many real attachments here, or do I just not notice? From: John HowellSent: Wed 11-Oct-06 23:2

Re: [Finale] Printing problems

2006-10-11 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
I had the same problem, until I went to the Print Dialog Window>Finale>Print Range, in which I put, e.g., 5,6,7 at which time it will print only pp 5-7, without printing all the previous pages. Just filling in the "Print from to ... boxes doesn't get it as it did in the Mac2006 versio

Re: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread John Howell
At 10:40 PM -0400 10/11/06, David W. Fenton wrote: I'm not sure you have a problem, but it could be because I don't have a signature or VCARD configured on my Outlook account. Those might be what direct recipients are seeing, and including either of them as an attachment is plain rude on Exchan

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Eric Dannewitz
$750 to $800 with a legal Windows XP license? I mean, if you look at existing Macs, and then build a Windows box, you aren't really saving much at all, except the 3 hours or so to put it all together, and install Windows. John T Sylvanis wrote: When it comes to upgradability first of all

RE: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread Williams, Jim
Yes, David, that's it--replies only. A question arises, though: why are these attachments viewed by some people as (ob)noxious? I could see an issue, perhaps, if people are on dialup or billed by the byte, but the attachments are actually quite small, yes?? So why is there an objection? I underst

Re: [Finale] Music notation for the tablet PC?

2006-10-11 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Very interesting stuff. Thanks! Daniel Wolf wrote: Hugh Sung seems to be the internet expert for musical uses of the tablet pc: http://hughsung.com/blog/ DJW ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale __

RE: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread Williams, Jim
David, Peter, Dennis, (and perhaps others)... First of all, thatks to you for helping! The problem occurs when I *reply to* messages, not when I initiate a topic. Perhaps I didn't stress that aspect enough. I don't reply to an individual and the list, only to the list. Only Finale@shsu.edu is in

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Eric Dannewitz
You sir, are totally not informed. I used to own a Power Computing computer (mac clone). Nothing but problems (ie: cheaper not equal to better). Steve Jobs wisely discontinued the clone licensing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_clone John T Sylvanis wrote: Not only that, but when th

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Hard yes, but the current batch of intel Mac Minis and iMacs are socketed, meaning expandable. Good news I think. Darcy James Argue wrote: Granted iMacs and Mac minis are harder to upgrade (except for memory), but these are, consumer-level machines, targeted at an audience that does not typica

Re: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 22:52, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > At 10:40 PM 10/11/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: > >I don't see any attachment on this message that I'm replying to. The > >listserv seems to have stripped it, if it was there. > > I'm getting them. They're coming in as attachments with nam

Re: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:40 PM 10/11/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: >I don't see any attachment on this message that I'm replying to. The >listserv seems to have stripped it, if it was there. I'm getting them. They're coming in as attachments with names like "msg-7775-7661.txt" with the full text content of the m

Re: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread Peter Taylor
- Original Message - From: "Williams, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 1:10 AM Subject: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments Friends... I send my Finale posts via an email system established by my employer using MS Outlook Web Access. For some reason

Re: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 20:10, Williams, Jim wrote: > I send my Finale posts via an email system established by my employer > using MS Outlook Web Access. For some reason unknown to me, > attachments are created when I reply to posts on this list, consisting > of a copy of the message to which I am repl

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 19:19, John T Sylvanis wrote: > On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:28:50 -0400 "David W. Fenton" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On 11 Oct 2006 at 18:12, John T Sylvanis wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:57:19 -0400 "David W. Fenton" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > On 11 O

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 11 Oct 2006, at 10:08 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 11 Oct 2006 at 18:31, Darcy James Argue wrote: It's also much easier to *open* the Mac Pro case than it is to open most PC cases (no tools required), I haven't used tools to open a PC case in about 20 years. Okay, fine, strike the pare

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 19:47, Darcy James Argue wrote: > How often does the average Wintel user upgrade their motherboard? Slightly more often than never. CPU upgrades, too. It's almost never cost-effective to do either, since usually the newer CPUs/motherboards benefit a great deal from all the ne

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 18:31, Darcy James Argue wrote: [] > It's also much easier to *open* the Mac Pro case than it is > to open most PC cases (no tools required), I haven't used tools to open a PC case in about 20 years. [] > Can we please put the kibosh on these pointless platform wars? > Es

[Finale] Re: Music notation for the tablet PC?

2006-10-11 Thread Michael Good
Hi Andrew, Folks at Brown wrote a Music Notepad for Tablet PC. It's open source and available via: http://graphics.cs.brown.edu/research/music/tpc.html Microsoft distributed a version of this as a Tablet PC Power Toy (the Music Composition Tool). A great project would be to make this into a

[Finale] Note Pad and Bekakte

2006-10-11 Thread Will Denayer
Hello, I downloaded Note Pad a while ago and had no problem with it whatsoever. I think it works fine. There's no reason to not give it a try, in my opinion (as long as it doesn't give you the idea that Finale is easy). As for bekakte, let me please add a final comment to this. It means full of sh

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 11 Oct 2006, at 8:43 PM, John T Sylvanis wrote: I agree, but when I change the MoBo I can carry everything else further along, the 300 GB disks, modems, network cards, high capacity video card, etc. There's nothing stopping you from doing that on a Mac. (Except, obviously, when the memo

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread John T Sylvanis
I agree, but when I change the MoBo I can carry everything else further along, the 300 GB disks, modems, network cards, high capacity video card, etc. Not always will this happen though, especially this time, when the PCI bus is changing. By and large I managed to update and not upgrade hardware wi

[Finale] Printing problems

2006-10-11 Thread Herman Gersten
Dear list, After installing FinMac 2007 on my Mac G5, I find that the my selections in the printer driver window are not followed. If I ask for page 5, it prints the first five pages of the score. Reverse order is ignored. Asked for any single page, it starts from Page 1. These problems a

RE: [Finale] OT-Bekakt--the End

2006-10-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:10 PM 10/11/06 -0400, Williams, Jim wrote: > The original post was probably blocked because it had no words of english in it. I received it via the list. Maybe things are erratic. I also responded to the thread with the Yiddish dictionary reference, but nobody mentioned that. Maybe it got lo

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:47 PM 10/11/06 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote: >How often does the average Wintel user upgrade their motherboard? A good question. Since I do the work for myself, family and a friend (all of us relatively poor), this probably happens more often than 'average' users. My own machine is the ori

RE: [Finale] OT-Bekakt--the End

2006-10-11 Thread Williams, Jim
Barbara, not a drop of Dutch blood in me anywhere...I simply love the country and its language. I lived a few months in Scheveningen about 32 years ago after having studied Dutch at University. The original post was probably blocked because it had no words of english in it. Jim __

[Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread Williams, Jim
Friends... I send my Finale posts via an email system established by my employer using MS Outlook Web Access. For some reason unknown to me, attachments are created when I reply to posts on this list, consisting of a copy of the message to which I am replying and a copy of some kind of Finale

Re: [Finale] OT-Bekakt--the End

2006-10-11 Thread Barbara Touburg
Williams, Jim wrote: Barbara... Well, I mentioned the word, then you offered the Dutch definition...waarop ik zei "Op z'n jiddisch betekent het woord 'bekakt' iets anders ;-) " of zoiets. So now you have seen from others how to interpret it ;-) I never received that message. Do you speak

RE: [Finale] OT-Bekakt--the End

2006-10-11 Thread Williams, Jim
Barbara... Well, I mentioned the word, then you offered the Dutch definition...waarop ik zei "Op z'n jiddisch betekent het woord 'bekakt' iets anders ;-) " of zoiets. So now you have seen from others how to interpret it ;-) But I guess the thread is over now...I enjoyed it tremendously and le

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
When the processor is upgradeable (socket-compatible), it seems to me there is little point in upgrading the motherboard on any computer. At that point, you might as well just buy a completely new machine, no? How often does the average Wintel user upgrade their motherboard? Cheers, - Darcy

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-11 Thread John T Sylvanis
Your abrasive words don't even warrant a response. John. On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:28:50 -0400 "David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 11 Oct 2006 at 18:12, John T Sylvanis wrote: > > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:57:19 -0400 "David W. Fenton" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On 11 Oct

Re: [Finale] OT-Bekakt

2006-10-11 Thread Barbara Touburg
Williams, Jim wrote: I started this "bekakte" topic, and the various responders were all spot-on in their comments as to its meaning/interpretation, and as to the existence of similar words elsewhere. ;-) Ehmmm, I think I started it... 10 7, 2006, 14.46 PM... Never mind :) Barbara, I se

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread John T Sylvanis
When it comes to upgradability first of all I understand the Motherboard. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't seen Mac MoBos in stores. If you have, I'll be ready to go to that store and look the MoBo up. I am not the one who succumbs to partisan wars, but I always found the Mac very expensive

RE: [Finale] OT-Bekakt

2006-10-11 Thread Williams, Jim
I started this "bekakte" topic, and the various responders were all spot-on in their comments as to its meaning/interpretation, and as to the existence of similar words elsewhere. ;-) Barbara, I sent you a message in Dutch but it must have been censored! ;-) The spelling, pronunciation, usag

[Finale] TAN: platform wars

2006-10-11 Thread Randolph Peters
Darcy James Argue wrote: Can we please put the kibosh on these pointless platform wars? Amen to that! These arguments go back to the beginning of the World Wide Web and haven't gotten any less tedious and boring in the intervening years. -Randolph Peters [signature on file] __

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
In what ways are Macs not upgradeable? I upgraded the processor on my previous Mac (a beige G3 desktop) three times. I added memory, swapped in new video cards, added a new internal hard drives, added FireWire/USB support, a new optical drive, a new sound card. If I'd wanted to, I could hav

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 18:12, John T Sylvanis wrote: > On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:57:19 -0400 "David W. Fenton" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On 11 Oct 2006 at 10:40, John T Sylvanis wrote: > > > > > Mozart was so famous that he could afford to > > > compose only if paid in advance. That Constanze Web

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-11 Thread John T Sylvanis
Well, it's very fashionable to believe that Mozart was a poor man and Constanze was a tame wife. Neither of it is true if one reads the numerous biographies. David, pardon me, but in stead of reading what I really want to say with my posting, you cling to minor things that you may perceive as ine

Re: [Finale] Bekakt

2006-10-11 Thread John T Sylvanis
For your information, most of the Central European languages have one form or another of 'bekakte'. It comes from kaka which means (sorry for the coming expletive) shit. In Hungarian it's kaka (the 'a' pronounced like the English 'u' in hut, in Rumanian it's cacat (the first 'a' being pronounced li

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread John T Sylvanis
Not only that, but when the MAC becomes obsolete you can throw it away because upgrading is a pathetic endeavor at best, if at all possible. Wintel is easily upgradable hardware as well as software wise. Too bad that Apple has not liberalized its platform so that people can take to building standar

RE: [Finale] High Society

2006-10-11 Thread George Galway
Hi Stan, Did you want the notation of the clarinet solo ? George Galway in Manchester UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Lord Sent: 11 October 2006 08:22 To: Finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] High Society Sorry to impose on the list

Re: [Finale] Music notation for the tablet PC?

2006-10-11 Thread Daniel Wolf
Hugh Sung seems to be the internet expert for musical uses of the tablet pc: http://hughsung.com/blog/ DJW ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 13:00, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > David W. Fenton wrote: > > On 11 Oct 2006 at 10:07, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > > > > > >> Phil Daley wrote: > >> > >>> At 10/11/2006 12:38 PM, dc wrote: > >>> > It simply isn't possible to proof hundreds and hundreds of files >

[Finale] Note pad

2006-10-11 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
I have become slightly wary of downloading certain stuff. Is there any downside to downloading the recently offered (by Make Music) Note pad? Dean Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you ever heard of an eleven or thirteen step program? __

Re: [Finale] Re: Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 23:28, shirling & neueweise wrote: > score has 100% backwards compatibility... one user reports being able > to edit 15-yr old files. Er, is there a version of Score that is newer than 15 years old? -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associat

[Finale] Re: Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread David Froom
On 10/11/06 1:00 PM, "Dennis Collins" wrote: > > Fiskum, Steve écrit: >> This is the biggest problem Finale has had for years. Upgrading files is WAY >> back on their priority list. I have been battling this problem since 2.0. >> The issues you bring up are big but over the years it has been much

[Finale] Re: Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread shirling & neueweise
From: "Robert Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What I've noticed is that many articulations no longer appear in the same place as before. This has nothing to do with font annotation files, unless MM changed the ones for their fonts. I've upgraded some of my files as far as 2006d but cannot bring

Re: [Finale] Music notation for the tablet PC?

2006-10-11 Thread dhbailey
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 03:22 PM 10/11/06 -0400, Andrew Levin wrote: I have a violinist in my university orchestra who is a computer science major. He is interested in taking on a project of developing a music notation program for the tablet PC, where you handwrite the music onto the sc

Re: [Finale] Music notation for the tablet PC?

2006-10-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:22 PM 10/11/06 -0400, Andrew Levin wrote: >I have a violinist in my university orchestra who is a computer >science major. He is interested in taking on a project of developing >a music notation program for the tablet PC, where you handwrite the >music onto the screen. Before getting too i

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Robert Patterson
Eric Dannewitz: > No, Mac users don't care. We go forward, not back. > Speak for yourself. I am a Mac user who has been (and remains) quite angry about the Mac platform's continual abandonment of legacy apps. It costs us a great deal of wasted effort and ultimately harms the platform's reliabil

Re: [Finale] Font issues with converted files

2006-10-11 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 04:02 PM 10/11/2006, David W. Fenton wrote: >I've never seen Palatino on a Windows machine except as provided by a >PostScript printer. I have Palatino Linotype, but don't know how it >got installed on my PC (it's not WinXP). Palatino Linotype is installed with Win2000, WinXP, and Office Prof

Re: [Finale] Font issues with converted files

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 8:31, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > David W. Fenton wrote: > > Palatino should be swapped to Book Antiqua, which is the Windows > > version of Palatino. > > My copies of Windows XP came with both Book Antiqua and Palatino I've never seen Palatino on a Windows machine except as

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Eric Dannewitz
No, Mac users don't care. We go forward, not back. I think the whole idea of running DOS or Windows 3.1 programs in Vista a bunch of Bekakt ;-) David W. Fenton wrote: On 11 Oct 2006 at 10:07, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Phil Daley wrote: At 10/11/2006 12:38 PM, dc wrote: It simp

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 10:40, John T Sylvanis wrote: > Mozart was so famous that he could afford to > compose only if paid in advance. That Constanze Weber then promptly > spent the money is another story :) Neither of these assertions has any truth in them at all. -- David W. Fenton

Re: [Finale] Bekakt

2006-10-11 Thread Daniel Wolf
Will Denayer wrote: Hi all, Just for what it is worth, the most precise translation of bekakt(e) is 'full of shit', but it actually means pretentious, noisy without content, little bourgeois-like (which has always been an insult in Yiddish). Still trying to figure out Finale, but doing well in

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 10:07, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Phil Daley wrote: > > At 10/11/2006 12:38 PM, dc wrote: > > > > >It simply isn't possible to proof hundreds and hundreds of files > > >each > > time > > >you upgrade. So what this means is that you have to keep all old > > versions > > >of Finale

[Finale] Music notation for the tablet PC?

2006-10-11 Thread Andrew Levin
Listers, I have a violinist in my university orchestra who is a computer science major. He is interested in taking on a project of developing a music notation program for the tablet PC, where you handwrite the music onto the screen. Before getting too involved in the project he wanted to know

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Oct 2006 at 17:02, Robert Patterson wrote: > My experience is that the upconvert from Fin97 forwards was quite > good: certainly far better than any previous upconverts. They stumbled > slightly with Fin03 but regained their balance afterwards. Fin07 > appears to be a huge step backwards, an

Re: [Finale] OT: Telemann perf. materials

2006-10-11 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Oct 10, 2006, at 3:01 PM, dhbailey wrote: MagnaMusic in Sharon, CT has all things recorder, and I'll bet they would have the music you're looking for. I tried them. No joy. My best luck so far has been w. Luck's: Concerto in C for flute (recorder?) and strings #00992 Concerto in F for

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
Dennis, In that case, you can make two different copies of the Font Annotation file -- one that matches the old positioning (for opening old documents), and one for use for when creating new documents. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY

[Finale] Bekakt

2006-10-11 Thread Will Denayer
Hi all, Just for what it is worth, the most precise translation of bekakt(e) is 'full of shit', but it actually means pretentious, noisy without content, little bourgeois-like (which has always been an insult in Yiddish). Still trying to figure out Finale, but doing well in languages ... Best, Will

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread Randolph Peters
Robert Patterson wrote: What I've noticed is that many articulations no longer appear in the same place as before. This has nothing to do with font annotation files, unless MM changed the ones for their fonts. I've upgraded some of my files as far as 2006d but cannot bring them into 2007 beca

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread Robert Patterson
Darcy: > I think MM changed what items are influenced by font annotation > files. For instance, ties on rhythmic notation used to ignore font > annotation files -- now they observe them. > > Is it possible that something like this is going on here? It certainly is possible. If it is so, it he

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Christopher Smith
On Oct 11, 2006, at 12:53 PM, Phil Daley wrote: Backwards compatibility? Who needs that? Mac users certainly don't. Did I mention that I ran Windows Finale V3.7 on Vista? Runs perfectly . . . Phil, honestly, if you have nothing useful to add... Christopher __

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread Fiskum, Steve
I am a MAC user and I have to manage well over 60,000 Mac only finale files for a publisher that are mostly choral/vocal files. It has been a difficult. I have to keep an old machine around (and some backup "old" machines) to run OS9 so I can open files from version 3.5.2 up to 2003 which I do on a

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Good for you. You go run your DOS programs and all and have yourself a merry old time. Phil Daley wrote: At 10/11/2006 12:38 PM, dc wrote: >It simply isn't possible to proof hundreds and hundreds of files each time >you upgrade. So what this means is that you have to keep all old versions

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 11 Oct 2006, at 10:36 AM, dc wrote: Chuck Israels écrit: If it only that one note head, it may be easier to edit the Font Annotation for it in 2007, then all converted files with that note head will read correctly. Preferences/Program Options/Edit/Font Annotation (lower right). If you have

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 11 Oct 2006, at 10:52 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: What I've noticed is that many articulations no longer appear in the same place as before. This has nothing to do with font annotation files, unless MM changed the ones for their fonts. I think MM changed what items are influenced by font

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread Robert Patterson
Dennis: > So what this means is that you have to keep all old versions > of Finale and use for each file the version in was created in. My experience is that the upconvert from Fin97 forwards was quite good: certainly far better than any previous upconverts. They stumbled slightly with Fin03 b

[Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Phil Daley
At 10/11/2006 12:38 PM, dc wrote: >It simply isn't possible to proof hundreds and hundreds of files each time >you upgrade. So what this means is that you have to keep all old versions >of Finale and use for each file the version in was created in. This is >possible, albeit very tedious, for Wind

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread Fiskum, Steve
This is the biggest problem Finale has had for years. Upgrading files is WAY back on their priority list. I have been battling this problem since 2.0. The issues you bring up are big but over the years it has been much worse. I have told every client I work with that if you are planning on upgradin

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread Robert Patterson
What I've noticed is that many articulations no longer appear in the same place as before. This has nothing to do with font annotation files, unless MM changed the ones for their fonts. I've upgraded some of my files as far as 2006d but cannot bring them into 2007 because of this problem. Of cou

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-11 Thread John T Sylvanis
Sorry for being so late. I tried to answer your message promptly and just as I was finishing it Juno's client software froze and lost the entire content. So I'll try again, probably without the completeness of the earlier endeavor. a) Presently I am not even thinking to write for an orchestra. B

[Finale] High Society - corrected upload

2006-10-11 Thread Chuck Israels
Stan,Sorry - printed the wrong page - caught by Christopher Smith.Here's the right one:http://homepage.mac.com/cisraels/filechute/High%20Society.pdf (Thank you, Christopher.)ChuckChuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisrael

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread Chuck Israels
Dear Dennis, If it only that one note head, it may be easier to edit the Font Annotation for it in 2007, then all converted files with that note head will read correctly. Preferences/Program Options/Edit/Font Annotation (lower right). If you have trouble and need more details, someone el

Re: [Finale] High Society

2006-10-11 Thread Chuck Israels
Dear Stan,Lead Sheet (not including clarinet solo) here:http://homepage.mac.com/cisraels/filechute/High%20Society.pdfChuckOn Oct 11, 2006, at 12:22 AM, Stan Lord wrote:Sorry to impose on the list but I have to do an arrangement of High Society (with the famous clarinet solo).I used to play a big ba

Re: [Finale] Font issues with converted files

2006-10-11 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
David W. Fenton wrote: Palatino should be swapped to Book Antiqua, which is the Windows version of Palatino. My copies of Windows XP came with both Book Antiqua and Palatino ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mail

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: ties and slurs

2006-10-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
Dennis, Make sure to copy the font annotation files from any non-MM fonts you're using into the Finale 2007 font annotation folder. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 11 Oct 2006, at 5:39 AM, dc wrote: Opening in 2007 some of my 2004 files, I

[Finale] High Society

2006-10-11 Thread Stan Lord
Sorry to impose on the list but I have to do an arrangement of High Society (with the famous clarinet solo). I used to play a big band arrangement of this years ago and, although I remember most of it, I need to hear it again to be sure. I've Googled a bit without success. Anyone know where