Re: [Finale] Fwd: Re: Tuplets across barlines

2019-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson
Patterson Plugins does not have a feature to put tuplets across barlines. If the tuplet is beamed, then Beam Over Barlines may (or may not) do it correctly, depending on context. On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 9:38 AM Barbara Touburg wrote: > On 14-8-2019 16:33, Michael Lawlor wrote: > > I only have Pa

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Re: Tuplets across barlines

2019-08-14 Thread Barbara Touburg
On 14-8-2019 16:33, Michael Lawlor wrote: I only have Patterson Plug-Ins Lite, which only deals with beaming across barlines.  Do I need another version? I don't know. Have you tried it? You'd have to ask Robert. Good luck. ___ Finale mailing list Fin

[Finale] Fwd: Re: Tuplets across barlines

2019-08-14 Thread Michael Lawlor
I only have Patterson Plug-Ins Lite, which only deals with beaming across barlines.  Do I need another version? Michael Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [Finale] Tuplets across barlines Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 14:45:52 +0200 From: Barbara Touburg To: Michael Lawlo

[Finale] Fwd: Re: Lyric window does not show entire lyric

2019-08-06 Thread Barbara Touburg
This went to Robert, accidentally... Forwarded Message Subject: Re: [Finale] Lyric window does not show entire lyric Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 16:47:58 +0200 From: Barbara Touburg To: Robert Patterson On 6-8-2019 16:39, Robert Patterson wrote: Has anyone encountered an issue wh

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-26 Thread Craig Parmerlee
It is very difficult to compare Dorico with the other products because Dorico operates on a different plane.  Whether that different plane is good for a person might depend  on many factors.  I am not here to claim it is better for everybody, but I definitely am far more productive with Dorico

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2 / Perfect Layout for Finale

2019-01-25 Thread Jan Angermüller
If you're interested in trying something new with Finale, you can also join our Perfect Layout beta test. The plug-in is a massive layout helper for Finale with more than 100 features including collision detection and automatic score balancing. More info https://elbsound.studio/perfect-layout/ a

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-25 Thread Robert Patterson
I would be very interested to know more specifics about the things that are "well beyond Fin/Sib". Graphically, I know about flexible slurs, and I would be curious to know if lines (like 8va) also have multiple inflection points. Beyond that, I would be curious to know what makes Dorico so much mo

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-24 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I would also note Sibelius 2019 was announced this week.  It seems to be roughly the same magnitude of the Finale 26 release.  I am sure the improvements are welcome, but really, this is a minuscule amount of improvement for a paid release.  Dorico is adding capability 10-to-100 times faster th

[Finale] Fwd: Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-22 Thread David H. Bailey
Hello Finale and Sibelius Friends, I'm forwarding this message to both the Finale and Sibelius groups, in case anybody is interested in exploring Dorico. Using the code DORICO30 you can get 30% off of either Dorico 2 or Dorico Elements 2 (a lighter version of Dorico) for this week only appare

[Finale] Fwd: Glisses in Finale

2019-01-07 Thread Michael Lawlor
I was using Aria Player and Garritan, so I have tried switching to softsynth but still get no sound with glissandi going directly from one note to the next.  It appears to behave if I tie two notes together so there is only one gliss. attached to each note, but the sound is not very good and on

[Finale] Fwd: MIDI

2018-06-21 Thread Lawrence David Eden
I think I found the cure for the problem described below. Turn off MIDI thru. Now I have a new problem: Finale25 crashes after several minutes with MIDI thru off. Larry Eden > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Lawrence David Eden > Subject: [Finale] MIDI > Date: June 21, 2018 at 7:17:09

[Finale] Fwd: Re: Exporting parts to PDF

2018-04-09 Thread David H. Bailey
I recommend CutePDF; it works like a charm, there is a free version, and it was our standard at Sarasota Opera. I bought the pro version as it is pretty powerful at quite a reasonable price, and you get free upgrades forever. Once you install that, you choose CutePDF as your printer, and i

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Re: Lyrics

2018-02-16 Thread Barbara Touburg
On 16-2-2018 15:27, Robert Patterson wrote: > I use Click > Assign O, that is another can of worms. After Ctrl-Click Assign the cursor jumps up to the first syllable instead of staying where it is (the last syllable). Also, every time I switch to click assign, Finale places the first syllable i

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Re: Lyrics

2018-02-16 Thread Robert Patterson
If you are doing "type into score" and/or using a lot of copy and paste with lyrics, be aware that Finale duplicates syllables like crazy (and trashes the lyric text blocks). That still doesn't probably get you to 32,767 syllables but it's worth mentioning anyway. I always try to keep my lyrics te

[Finale] Fwd: Re: Lyrics

2018-02-16 Thread Barbara Touburg
I'm sorry. I meant to send this to the list. Forwarded Message Subject: Re: [Finale] Lyrics Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 12:47:31 +0100 From: Barbara Touburg To: Robert Patterson On 16-2-2018 01:06, Robert Patterson wrote: > I'm virtually certain you can't exceed 32,767 syllables i

[Finale] Fwd: Re: Display Elapsed Time

2018-01-23 Thread Barbara Touburg
Sorry. I meant to send this to the list... Forwarded Message Subject: Re: [Finale] Display Elapsed Time Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 20:02:03 +0100 From: Barbara Touburg To: Michael Johnson On 23-1-2018 19:38, Michael Johnson wrote: > You can define a measure number to be time of m

[Finale] Fwd: Key signature

2016-10-30 Thread Gerardo Delgado
Maybe adding a measure of 0,25 spaces width, that will be not included in the count of measures and making it "blank" via Staff Styles. If you prefer, give it a width of 0 (zero) spaces. I made an example using the suggestion that Rafael has given to you and adding that measure. Of course it proba

[Finale] Fwd: Having problems transposing score

2016-07-06 Thread Michael Lawlor
I have worked it out: use the transposition tool rather than the score manager. Michael Lawlor Forwarded Message Subject:Having problems transposing score Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 14:11:03 +0100 From: Michael Lawlor To: finale@shsu.edu Finale 2014.5 I am modi

Re: [Finale] Fwd: question

2016-03-03 Thread Jan Angermüller
Hi Robert, this raises many questions: >I can use the Percussion Transposition option, but I have to do this measure by measure Why ? As the drum instruments won't be different in every measure, I would assume that you could change at least each song, phrase, groove etc. with the same settings

[Finale] Fwd: question

2016-03-02 Thread Robert Patterson
An acquaintance of mine needs to import percussion parts from Sibelius using Music XML and he is having trouble (as described below). Does anyone have any suggestions? -- Forwarded message -- From: Donald Oliver Date: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:46 PM Subject: question To: Robert Patter

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Problem in exporting a Finale file containing a Finale groove into an audio file

2016-01-30 Thread Raymond Horton
I replied several days ago, saying I saw the message but had no solution. But my reply is returned undeliverable, for some reason. On Jan 28, 2016 8:59 AM, "Marcello Noia" wrote: > Test: did the message below arrive to the list? > If yes, any solutions? > Thanks > > Messaggio originale -

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Problem in exporting a Finale file containing a Finale groove into an audio file

2016-01-28 Thread Christopher Smith
It did, but I don’t think anyone can diagnose it without seeing the file. Try the Finale Forum on the MakeMusic site. You can attach files there. It’s very active, even now (unlike us). Christopher > On Jan 28, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Marcello Noia wrote: > > Test: did the message below arrive to

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Problem in exporting a Finale file containing a Finale groove into an audio file

2016-01-28 Thread Raymond Horton
Yes, it did. Sorry, I have no solution. On Jan 28, 2016 8:59 AM, "Marcello Noia" wrote: > Test: did the message below arrive to the list? > If yes, any solutions? > Thanks > > Messaggio originale > Oggetto:Problem in exporting a Finale file containing a Finale > groove >

[Finale] Fwd: Problem in exporting a Finale file containing a Finale groove into an audio file

2016-01-28 Thread Marcello Noia
Test: did the message below arrive to the list? If yes, any solutions? Thanks Messaggio originale Oggetto:Problem in exporting a Finale file containing a Finale groove into an audio file Data: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 17:07:24 +0100 Mittente: Marcello Noia A: final

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Don't Update Your Mac OS Yet

2015-09-28 Thread hmauro
Thanks for this important warning! Harold Quoting Henry Howey : > Henry Howey > > Sent from my iWhatever > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Finale >> Date: September 28, 2015 at 16:48:41 CDT >> To: >> Subject: Don't Update Your Mac OS Yet >> Reply-To: Finale >> >> >> >> >> >> El Capi

[Finale] Fwd: Don't Update Your Mac OS Yet

2015-09-28 Thread Henry Howey
Henry Howey Sent from my iWhatever Begin forwarded message: > From: Finale > Date: September 28, 2015 at 16:48:41 CDT > To: > Subject: Don't Update Your Mac OS Yet > Reply-To: Finale > > > > > El Capitan and Finale 2014 > According to Apple's website, OS X El Capitan, the latest Mac ope

Re: [Finale] Fwd: confirm 2607d060ec28948af89ff522b9ea773fe6c514fa

2015-09-26 Thread David Woodard
Thanks, Phil On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Phil Buglass wrote: > > Just got another one of these... This time, at least the link to reset > worked... > > Phil. > > > Forwarded Message > Subject:confirm 2607d060ec28948af89ff522b9ea773fe6c514fa > Date: Fri, 25 Sep

Re: [Finale] Fwd: confirm 2607d060ec28948af89ff522b9ea773fe6c514fa

2015-09-25 Thread Philip Brink
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Phil Buglass wrote: > > Just got another one of these... This time, at least the link to reset > worked... > > Phil. > > > Forwarded Message > Subject:confirm 2607d060ec28948af89ff522b9ea773fe6c514fa > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 01:06:22

[Finale] Fwd: confirm 2607d060ec28948af89ff522b9ea773fe6c514fa

2015-09-25 Thread Phil Buglass
Just got another one of these... This time, at least the link to reset worked... Phil. Forwarded Message Subject:confirm 2607d060ec28948af89ff522b9ea773fe6c514fa Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 01:06:22 -0500 From: finale-requ...@shsu.edu To: bloke...@comcast.net

[Finale] Fwd: pdfmerge

2015-07-16 Thread Raymond Horton
Useful site: > > > http://www.pdfmerge.com/ > > > Raymond Horton > Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra > Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC > Composer, Arranger > VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists

[Finale] Fwd: Re: test

2015-04-04 Thread Raymond Horton
-- Forwarded message -- From: "Raymond Horton" Date: Apr 4, 2015 3:36 PM Subject: Re: test To: "Dalvin Boone" Cc: I got some rejected. Henry has fixed it. Thanks On Apr 4, 2015 1:51 PM, "Dalvin Boone" wrote: > Raymond, > > Everyone sees your Finale posts; perhaps you are not g

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Finalescript 2012 vs. 2014 + Edit page offset

2015-04-01 Thread João Pais
In this particular case, the problem is that before the Edit Page Offset menu appears, the selection is lost - instead of setting the parameter of the page number I selected, it sets in the 1st page. This doesn't happen with Edit Frame Attributes (didn't try with anything else), there I had no prob

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Finalescript 2012 vs. 2014 + Edit page offset

2015-03-31 Thread SN jef chippewa
joão, you need to select the "insert text" (in your case page number) and paste the offset you want to add to the default. a 3rd-party script might be quicker and easier to manage, at least for this particular task. i have never had much luck with finalescript and gave up trying to understa

[Finale] Fwd: Finalescript 2012 vs. 2014 + Edit page offset

2015-03-31 Thread João Pais
Hello list, I had a couple of questions regarding finalescript: - I notice that in fin2012 there are lots of crashes, just when navigating the palette, but in fin2014 things seem to be ok. Is that your experience as well? - I was trying to write a plugin using the Edit Page Offset window. This

[Finale] Fwd: Re: Folders

2015-03-26 Thread David H. Bailey
On 3/25/2015 10:42 PM, David Woodard wrote: > I am sure some capable Window's 8.1 guru's could solve that for us, but I > don't have the bucks to go asking. After months of loosing files with my > new 8.1 computer, I can finally find my way back to the same file folders > by starting to save the

Re: [Finale] Fwd: NanoKey and Finale 2012 - no sound in speedy entry mode

2015-01-01 Thread David H. Bailey
Compare the settings that you have in the Midi/Audio menu. Is "Midi Thru" checked in both? Make sure that you have all the settings the same in both programs, including the playback device. David H. Bailey On 1/1/2015 12:10 PM, marcellon...@gmail.com wrote: > Update: in Finale 2011 that still

[Finale] Fwd: NanoKey and Finale 2012 - no sound in speedy entry mode

2015-01-01 Thread marcellon...@gmail.com
Update: in Finale 2011 that still resides in my PC, no problem at all with Nano. What am I missing? Messaggio Inoltrato Oggetto:NanoKey and Finale 2012 - no sound in speedy entry mode Data: Thu, 01 Jan 2015 17:53:33 +0100 Mittente: marcellon...@gmail.com Rispon

[Finale] Fwd:

2014-10-03 Thread William Sinclair
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[Finale] Fwd: SFA - composer with issues asking for volunteer help

2014-07-19 Thread Raymond Horton
Thanks, Jim and Jon. I was very confusing in my post - #1 may be in the works, I hope to know soon. I'll look for a couple for you in the meantime. I am narrowing down the other songs I need right now. Here is one for certain, but it's played not printed - on a youtube video, about 30 seconds in

[Finale] Fwd: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

2014-06-29 Thread Raymond Horton
-- Forwarded message -- From: "Raymond Horton" > What is wrong with this list Why can't my posts make it through when I post them? > > On Jun 29, 2014 2:00 AM, "Mail Delivery Subsystem" < mailer-dae...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> This is an automatically generated Delivery Status

[Finale] Fwd: Delivery delayed:Exported Audio too loud

2014-02-23 Thread Ryan
Assuming this goes through... Has anyone received this type of message before? -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 2:38 AM Subject: Delivery delayed:Exported Audio too loud To: ryanwbe...@gmail.com *Delivery is delayed to these recipients or groups:* fin..

[Finale] Fwd: [TGTools] TGTools 2.71 for Finale 2010-2014 available (Windows and Macintosh)

2014-02-23 Thread Howey, Henry
Henry Howey Sent from my iWhatever Begin forwarded message: From: mailto:tobias_subscri...@tgtools.com>> Date: February 23, 2014 at 10:05:58 CST To: mailto:tgto...@yahoogroups.com>> Subject: [TGTools] TGTools 2.71 for Finale 2010-2014 available (Windows and Macintosh) Hello, this is just

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Finale 2014

2013-11-05 Thread Giovanni Andreani
Very well, looking forward! Giovanni >Here is word about TGTools > > >Begin forwarded message: > >*From:* tob...@tgtools.de >*Date:* November 5, 2013 3:25:10 AM PST >*To:* Eric Dannewitz >*Subject:* *Re: Finale 2014* > >Hello, > >yes I will make an update. > >Kind Regards, >Tobias Giesen > >Supe

[Finale] Fwd: Finale 2014

2013-11-05 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Here is word about TGTools Begin forwarded message: *From:* tob...@tgtools.de *Date:* November 5, 2013 3:25:10 AM PST *To:* Eric Dannewitz *Subject:* *Re: Finale 2014* Hello, yes I will make an update. Kind Regards, Tobias Giesen Super Flexible Software Ltd. & Co. KG Buddenstr. 29-31 48143

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Simple question on page layout

2013-09-17 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2013-09-17 14:39, Fiskum, Steve wrote: > Could you please add this to you plugin before TGTools is obsolete? You are in the JW Lua list as well, I believe? I just posted a script that'll work in 0.05 there. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Fin

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Simple question on page layout

2013-09-17 Thread Fiskum, Steve
Great. I'll take a look. Thanks, Steve On 9/17/13 1:03 PM, "Jari Williamsson" wrote: >On 2013-09-17 14:39, Fiskum, Steve wrote: >> Could you please add this to you plugin before TGTools is obsolete? > >You are in the JW Lua list as well, I believe? I just posted a script >that'll work in 0.05 t

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Simple question on page layout

2013-09-17 Thread Fiskum, Steve
Jari, it's not that simple. I may make changes to the systems that work for all layouts that you cannot set globally which is the reason TGTools transfer works in this situation. I've used it in every job since it's inception but the initial reason I asked for it was that every marching band engrav

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Simple question on page layout

2013-09-17 Thread Fiskum, Steve
Hello Jari, Dan's experience is the only reason I do not use JW Copy Part Layout. When I contracted Tobias to write his plugin to do this it was important to have two options. One, to copy the layout systems AND the number of measures per system. Two, just copy the systems and NOT the number of

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Simple question on page layout

2013-09-17 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2013-09-17 14:26, Dan Tillberg wrote: > "Page format for parts", great, will take a look. Could find anything about > setting a "nominal" number of systems per page, e. g. 8 on the first page > and 9 for subsequent pages. This is my problem right now and I know that it > is possible to fix with

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Simple question on page layout

2013-09-17 Thread Dan Tillberg
"Page format for parts", great, will take a look. Could find anything about setting a "nominal" number of systems per page, e. g. 8 on the first page and 9 for subsequent pages. This is my problem right now and I know that it is possible to fix with some patience but then I have had problems with d

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Simple question on page layout

2013-09-17 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2013-09-17 10:52, Dan Tillberg wrote: > 1) What is the best way to create a new part in a given score that adapts > to an existing part from the design perspective? When you create a new part (or an additional page in an existing part), it's based on the "Page Format for Parts" settings. Make

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Simple question on page layout

2013-09-17 Thread Steve Parker
I don't think there is any way without redoing. I didn't answer before because I was hoping someone might know better.. :-( Steve P. On 17 Sep 2013, at 09:52, Dan Tillberg wrote: > Interesting discussions about Finale's future; this is obviously topics > that engages people. I am tempted to j

[Finale] Fwd: Simple question on page layout

2013-09-17 Thread Dan Tillberg
Interesting discussions about Finale's future; this is obviously topics that engages people. I am tempted to join; shortly I agree to those who say that Finale typically not needs to be able to do more fancy audio things (there are other good tools and they are numerous); neither to have more intel

Re: [Finale] Fwd: : Lyric Hyphenator

2013-04-05 Thread Mark D Lew
>Thanks, Christopher. Was assuming care would need to be taken along those and >similar lines. Yep. It also can be tripped up by words that have different hyphenations depending on context, like proj-ect vs pro-ject. Still, it seems to do a good job most of the time, including on those difficu

Re: [Finale] Fwd: : Lyric Hyphenator

2013-04-05 Thread Don Hart
Thanks, Christopher. Was assuming care would need to be taken along those and similar lines. Don Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: > I've been using it for a long time. Check carefully, though, because it > doesn't give you common slang hyphenations

Re: [Finale] Fwd: : Lyric Hyphenator

2013-04-05 Thread Christopher Smith
I've been using it for a long time. Check carefully, though, because it doesn't give you common slang hyphenations like "gon-na", and because it has a liturgical user base, it returns "bless-ed" instead of "blessed" and "pleas-ed" instead of "pleased." Christopher On Fri Apr 5, at FridayApr 5

Re: [Finale] Fwd: : Lyric Hyphenator

2013-04-05 Thread Don Hart
This is terrific, Greg! Been wishing for something on this order for a long time. Thank you for sharing! Don Hart On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Gregory Theisen wrote: > > Hello, > > This is my first post. I simply want to share a very useful tool that I > found on a website. It is a Lyric

[Finale] Fwd: : Lyric Hyphenator

2013-04-05 Thread Gregory Theisen
Hello, This is my first post. I simply want to share a very useful tool that I found on a website. It is a Lyric Hyphenator (english only). I've been using it for about a year. It works great and it's free! You simply copy and paste lyrics into the text box, and it automatically hyphenates

Re: [Finale] Fwd: non-pitched percussion without key change cancel

2013-02-28 Thread Ryan
OF COURSE! Why didn't I think of that? THANK YOU! I must've been convinced that the solution was in the Score Manager or "Change Instrument" feature. It's been a long week. Again, thanks. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 7:21 PM, John Blane wrote: > How about using a staff style to hide the key sig where

Re: [Finale] Fwd: non-pitched percussion without key change cancel

2013-02-28 Thread John Blane
How about using a staff style to hide the key sig where you don't want it? On Feb 28, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Ryan wrote: > Sending again in case this didn't get through... > > > > I don't want the key cancellation to show when switching to a non-pitched > percussion instrument. > > I h

[Finale] Fwd: non-pitched percussion without key change cancel

2013-02-28 Thread Ryan
Sending again in case this didn't get through... I don't want the key cancellation to show when switching to a non-pitched percussion instrument. I have a piece in F Major. A percussionist plays Glock (which needs the key signature), and other non-pitched instruments (which don't ne

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread SN jef chippewa
the format has been around longer than copy shops available to the home user. although this could have been a justification later on. but i find the extra play you have with 9x12 or 9.5x12.5 to be extremely valuable for the layout of parts. letter size always causes problems for elegant layo

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Most of my Kalmus parts are (approximately) 10x13 with (approximately) 1 inch margins all around. Kalmus is an American company, but they mostly just reprint European editions. Computers take the "approximately" out of the equations, but 10x13 with 1 inch margins is very much within the Kalmus nor

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread SN jef chippewa
>Eh, what's wrong with 10x13? It is extremely standard in orchestra parts. ... in the states perhaps. >I am surprised the site list 11x14 as "second best". 11x14 is awful... it (or B4) can be very useful for performance scores (say 3-5 or so players) but not for individual parts. >I also don'

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Music paper sizes between 9x12 and 10x13 came into use long before there were photocopiers. I think it is because it is a good match to available real estate on a music stand. 10x13 parts fit inside standard band and orchestra folders without any problems, claims here to the contrary. Some organiz

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread John Howell
At 7:09 PM + 11/1/12, Lawrence Yates wrote: >Here in the UK, most photocopiers work on A4 or A3. We always believed >that publishers used the unusual (to us) sizes so that the music couldn't >be easily copied. Interesting theory. I've always assumed that this was a size produced by folding

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread Lawrence Yates
Here in the UK, most photocopiers work on A4 or A3. We always believed that publishers used the unusual (to us) sizes so that the music couldn't be easily copied. On 1 November 2012 18:49, David H. Bailey < dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com> wrote: > On 11/1/2012 8:43 AM, Robert Patterson wro

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread David H. Bailey
On 11/1/2012 8:43 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: > Eh, what's wrong with 10x13? It is extremely standard in orchestra parts. I > am surprised the site list 11x14 as "second best". 11x14 is awful, because > it does not fit in standard orchestra/band folders. 9x12 is essentially > equally as common as 1

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread John Howell
At 7:43 AM -0500 11/1/12, Robert Patterson wrote: >Eh, what's wrong with 10x13? It is extremely standard in orchestra parts. I >am surprised the site list 11x14 as "second best". 11x14 is awful, because >it does not fit in standard orchestra/band folders. 9x12 is essentially >equally as common as 1

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, November 1, 2012 2:06 pm, Robert Patterson wrote: > No: acid free Hammermill Accent Opaque 70# offset "natural white". > I got it from Xpedx, but it was a few years ago. Xpedx left the consumer market a few years ago, didn't they? But thanks for the tip -- I did find something similar, 14

Re: [Finale] Fwd: was Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread John Howell
At 8:09 AM -0400 11/1/12, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > >One day we'll talk about landscape scores. :) They seem to work just fine for organists, and for duo pianists (one part on the left and the other on the right). They might work for people reading one to a stand, if there were a reason t

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread Robert Patterson
No: acid free Hammermill Accent Opaque 70# offset "natural white". I got it from Xpedx, but it was a few years ago. In retrospect I think I got 750 13x20 sheets on that batch, plus some number of 11x17. I can't recall the exact geometry now. I may have ordered 500 of the big sheets. But the price

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, November 1, 2012 10:29 am, Robert Patterson wrote: > The last time I had 20x13 made I bought the minimum which was 250 sheets of > a large printer size (in the range of 30x40, but I don't recall the exact > dimensions). Anyway, I ended up with 1000 sheets of 20x13 and about an > equal numbe

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread Robert Patterson
The last time I had 20x13 made I bought the minimum which was 250 sheets of a large printer size (in the range of 30x40, but I don't recall the exact dimensions). Anyway, I ended up with 1000 sheets of 20x13 and about an equal number of 11x17 after they cut it for me. Total cost: $190. On Thu, Nov

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, November 1, 2012 9:54 am, Robert Patterson wrote: > Right, but to have properly bound parts of 9x12, you need 18x12 to print > on. Is that also a standard art size? If so, I am curious where you get it. It's a stock art size, but it's expensive. Jampaper has it at about $115 for 500 sheets

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Right, but to have properly bound parts of 9x12, you need 18x12 to print on. Is that also a standard art size? If so, I am curious where you get it. I use 20x13, which I have custom cut. It's a bit more expensive, but not out of this world. Anyway, as you say, these days the move is towards PDF de

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, November 1, 2012 8:43 am, Robert Patterson wrote: > Eh, what's wrong with 10x13? It is extremely standard in orchestra parts. I > am surprised the site list 11x14 as "second best". 11x14 is awful, because > it does not fit in standard orchestra/band folders. 9x12 is essentially > equally as

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Eh, what's wrong with 10x13? It is extremely standard in orchestra parts. I am surprised the site list 11x14 as "second best". 11x14 is awful, because it does not fit in standard orchestra/band folders. 9x12 is essentially equally as common as 10x13, so I would say those are the two sizes we should

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, November 1, 2012 7:43 am, SN jef chippewa wrote: > musicians are used to 9x12, that would be a more > appropriate format. and has been a standard for > very long. i don't think 10x13 is so large that > the lines (systems) would start to get too long > to read, but why not use a standard t

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread SN jef chippewa
the problem you are talking about has nothing to do with page format. if the music is too small a percentage it will be too small in any format to read. ideally you would notate at the proper size for the final format of the printed parts. any orchestra musician who can't read the part bec

[Finale] Fwd: Notation for string harmonics

2012-11-01 Thread Neal Gittleman
I'd like to put in a word in favor of 10x13 paper. It is the standard size that many orchestra librarians use and prefer. Letter-size looks small on the music stand and is often hard to read. Anything bigger than 10x13 often won't fit under a stand light. But I disagree (if I read it correc

[Finale] Fwd: rebar independent time signature

2012-09-16 Thread Christopher Smith
Oops! This was meant to be a private message, not for the list. It had a large attachment, too. Sorry! Christopher Begin forwarded message: > From: Christopher Smith > Date: September 16, 2012 8:52:20 PM EDT > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] rebar independent time signature > > C

[Finale] Fwd: [AMS-L] Sibelius UK closing

2012-08-03 Thread Eric Fiedler
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[Finale] Fwd: [AMS-L] Sibelius UK closing

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Fiedler
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Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-10 Thread Peter Taylor
From: "Mark D Lew" >I see nothing to be gained by pursuing this further. > > mdl I agree. Our thoughts should be with David and his family. I'm very sorry to hear of his sudden passing. I often enjoyed his posts, controversial sometimes, plainly spoken and forthright, but they often raised a

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-10 Thread Mark D Lew
John Howell wrote: > But I'm curious why Eric thinks this is > incorrect, and what makes him think that "our" > David lives in California and yet manages to > commute to NYC for rehearsals of his viol consort > at NYU. Got any proof to submit, Eric? Eric evidently made a mistake, as we all d

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-10 Thread John Howell
At 10:59 AM -0700 11/9/11, Wade KOTTER wrote: >It's not funny at all, Eric. I was honestly apologizing if my original >report was incorrect, but I don't think it is. I seldom post on this >list, but I've been lurking for several years and what David has posted >about his work (playing the viol, wor

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-09 Thread Kenneth Kuhlmann
On 10/11/2011 05:52, David H. Bailey wrote: > On 11/9/2011 12:54 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: >> On 2011-11-09, at 11:43 AM, Wade KOTTER wrote: >> >>> But perhaps we should wait for the real David to post a >>> correction to the list regarding the alleged false report of his >>> passing. >> >> If you

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-09 Thread Mark D Lew
David H Bailey wrote: >Just because he has died, which is very sad, there's no need to beat >about the bush -- he could be downright insulting if he thought a >person's reply was beneath contempt. Of course, he was always right. :-) Well, *almost* always mdl _

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-09 Thread David H. Bailey
On 11/9/2011 2:15 PM, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: > I'm so sorry to hear this news. Yes, David could be brusque to the point of > maddening frustration, Just because he has died, which is very sad, there's no need to beat about the bush -- he could be downright insulting if he thought a

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-09 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
phony Orchestra Mariposa Symphony Orchestra: http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.html Les Marsden - Former Career (retired due to disability) page: http://tinyurl.com/ygpj7og - Original Message - From: "Wade KOTTER" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 6:50 AM Subject: [Fina

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-09 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
t: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton It's the one and same David Fenton. He did not live in San Francisco. His computer consulting business was based out of New Jersey (across the Hudson in Weehawken) Thanks Kim On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-09 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:52 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: > No -- Steve Jobs is working on an app to allow people from the other > side to communicate with the living through their iPhone, iPod-Touch or > iPad. > I guess that's not being ported to the Android format then? :/ Thanks Kim ___

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-09 Thread David H. Bailey
On 11/9/2011 12:54 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: > On 2011-11-09, at 11:43 AM, Wade KOTTER wrote: > >> If I'm incorrect, I sincerely apologize to David and everyone else on >> the list. But perhaps we should wait for the real David to post a >> correction to the list regarding the alleged false report

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-09 Thread David H. Bailey
On 11/9/2011 12:32 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > this is NOT the same guy people. > > This list's Dave fenton lives in the San Francisco bay area > This list's Dave Fenton lived in New York City, played viol in a consort, was working on recording a CD recently, and hasn't posted anything to the c

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-09 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: > I'm sorry to hear about David's passing. > > > It IS our David, by the way. Just look at his own signature from letters to > this list: > > David W. Fenton                    http://dfenton.com > David Fenton Associates       http://dfenton

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-09 Thread Randolph Peters
I'm sorry to hear about David's passing. It IS our David, by the way. Just look at his own signature from letters to this list: David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ The first link shows his picture with his viol consort.

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-09 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Wade KOTTER wrote: > It's not funny at all, Eric. I was honestly apologizing if my original > report was incorrect, but I don't think it is. It's not Wade, it's the same gentleman. And thanks for letting us know. Take care Kim _

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-09 Thread Bob Morabito
Im sorry to hear this--my condolences to all his family and friends. Bob Morabito On Nov 9, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Wade KOTTER wrote: > I believe this is the David Fenton who often posted to this list. I > know > he was often difficult to deal with, but I still think he should be > remembered with

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-09 Thread Randolph Peters
On 2011-11-09, at 11:43 AM, Wade KOTTER wrote: > If I'm incorrect, I sincerely apologize to David and everyone else on > the list. But perhaps we should wait for the real David to post a > correction to the list regarding the alleged false report of his > passing. If you are correct, wouldn't we

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