on whether
API usage even creates a derivative work is in flux -- see Google vs. Oracle
and appeals.
Please carry on.
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for geospatial indexing,
http://www.vividsolutions.com/jts/JTSHome.htm
Please let me know if you still have concerns.
No problem, then! Thanks for clarifying, and thanks for toughing it out --
the first incubating release is always the hardest.
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prior discussion:
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alpha, beta, golden master candidate / GM candidate, etc.
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* versions of the
files are available under Doug Lea's public domain dedication and contain no
GPL mods, I think it's OK.
I'd suggest opening a ticket to correct the headers.
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the original public domain version would be kosher, but the current
versions with GPL mods would not be.
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scheme on you, I don't think
you can put out two releases with the same version number. That would
result in identically named artifacts with different content and
security mechanisms going berzerk as a consequence.
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[ ] +1 accept Groovy in the Incubator
[ ] ±0
[ ] -1 because...
+1 (non-binding)
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Dear Incubator community,
In just a few weeks, we'll be holding ApacheCon in Austin, Texas, and
we'd love to have you in attendance. You can save $300 on admission by
registering NOW, since the early bird price ends on the 21st.
Register at http://s.apache.org/acna2015-reg
ApacheCon this year
-long DISCUSS was a good call. A 72-hour
VOTE should suffice after that.
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is not assigned to file a report for April, but this is the sort
of discussion that would be appropriate to summarize in the narrative
section at the top of the report. I suggest adding some sort of rough
note now and then refining it later.
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exist at the moment. The closest thing we have is the
official _Releases Policy_ page at http://www.apache.org/dev/release, which
I don't want to mess with right now.
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[1] http://s.apache.org/roy-binary-deps-0
http://s.apache.org/roy-binary-deps-1
http://s.apache.org/roy
. There is every reason to
believe that the Groovy community will join them.
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persistence and understanding.
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a
workaround which allows the official source release to be entirely free of
binaries.
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embracing the meritocracy-centric way of growing the
community of contributors while balancing it with the needs for extreme
stability and coherency of the core language implementation.
Great to see Groovy here!
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, but I thought it worth mentioning our current
status.
Filing Myriad's first report next month is fine. Welcome!
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that this
month that every last podling reported!
I'm expecting to provide a lot of help for you next month, Ted, when you'll be
the last line of defense instead of Roman. I'm glad we've been able get a
head start -- it should make next month easier!
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; if it's close, we can always check more
carefully.
It's an inexact method, but sufficient -- like parliamentary voice voting.
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and running!
Go go go the-other-marvin!
Thanks Jim and Daniel!
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May I get edit access to incubator wiki to fill out the March report
for the SAMOA project.
Id: AlbertBifet
Thanks in advance.
Done.
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On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:26 PM, moon soo Lee m...@apache.org wrote:
May i get edit access to incubator wiki to fill out the March report for
the Zeppelin project.
id: MoonsooLee
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) for this proposal. Good
luck!
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enough (whatever that is) asf members as committers ?
That is a discussion for perhaps the Incubator, but more specifically the
podlings that you might be referring to.
I don't see why the Incubator wouldn't just let them go.
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=infrastructure-puppet.git;a=blob;f=modules/subversion_server/files/board_reminders/reminders.pl
Maybe we need our own dedicated script.
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we leave things regarding the subject of this thread,
Should Sirona be monthly?: Sirona should not be required to report next
month, in deference to its Mentors.
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Sirona
Monitoring Solution.
Sirona has been incubating since 2013-10-15.
Three most important
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Please give me edit permissions. I'm signed up on the wiki as user 'Adam'
Done. Enjoy!
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measure. We need to add your wiki username to a list of those who are
allowed to modify the wiki. Please let us know what that username is,
or if you have spent enough time fiddling today (the wiki is slow), to
provide the details that need to be inserted into the proposal.
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On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Enrico Daga enricod...@gmail.com wrote:
Marvin, if you can enable EnricoDaga, I might need it for the future ;)
Done.
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them in their outreach to other RDF
projects.
This is going to be a fun and easy job. Sergio is deeply committed, Andy is one
of the IPMC's best, Benedikt has signed on to represent Commons, and the
sophistication of the emails in this thread speaks for itself. Who's in?
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been sent to
secretary@, it's not been confirmed by the secretary - probably
something fell over with email + attachments + interweb. :-/
There's no hurry. The Incubator files a report every month, and it
is never up-to-the-minute accurate.
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stand aside. But I can't ignore
the cost/benefit ratio here.
We were hoping to also get some RDF neutral mentors.
See above. :)
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For additional
newly elected IPMC member Rob Vesse, but maybe the roster is already
Jena-heavy?
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with this issue.
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Incubator PMC report for February 2015
The Apache Incubator is the entry path into the ASF for projects and
codebases wishing to become part of the Foundation's efforts.
narrative
* Community
New IPMC members:
People who left the IPMC:
Mentors who didn't sign off on the reports:
participating in REEF's first release threads).
I note that one of the REEF's Mentors has signed off on the podling report.
We also now have a report from Ripple, signed off and commented on by one of
Ripple's Mentors. I've appended it below.
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Ripple
Ripple
note should be added.
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On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote:
Marvin,
Can I manually remove Flink from February report since it is already
graduating?
Please go ahead. The report is a community product.
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May I get edit access to incubator wiki please to fill out the
February report for the Zeppelin project.
Id: AlexanderBezzubov
Done.
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On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Brian Cho chobr...@gmail.com wrote:
Can someone help me get edit access to the Incubator Wiki to fill out the
February report?
My username is BrianCho
Done.
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3 for running clutch.py; if you haven't got a copy, somebody else will
get to it sooner or later, but you may still get notices etc. until
that happens.
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on -- and it will be
prioritized appropriately. As a result, I would expect attrition at
roughly the same rates as Incubator Mentors.
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are not executives. But if Ted chooses to be
be an active moderator, I have faith that he will do as well as anyone could
in guiding consensus for whatever bottom-up proposals emerge.
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On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
Hi!
after making sure
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote:
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On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:14 AM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com
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I really don't have a problem with a report like that going out
*way* less work and
more reliable than shepherds.
Maybe the Incubator should strike that task from the Report Manager's
runbook and start losing track of podlings again? Because I feel like we
designed a better system and nobody noticed.
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[1] This is related but not linked
tags in podlings.xml when
podlings don't report or no Mentors sign off, the Report Manager can handle
the essential task that the shepherds can no longer be counted on for:
ensuring that we don't lose track of wayward podlings.
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that it
stops conversation cold.
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ratio -- shepherds are making a rational choice to occupy themselves with
tasks they perceive as less arduous and/or more rewarding.
Maybe the time will come to revisit this issue if shepherd participation
flatlines, though that's not a very satisfying outcome...
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to be the shepherds, whose understanding is necessarily
more superficial. Doesn't that seem strange?
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notes section of
the report can be changed to Mentor/IPMC notes.
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[1] http://markmail.org/message/y3pnb6degtnynmc2
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, infra etc) and oral tradition (slides, talks, blog posts
etc).
I suggest working on this on the dev@community.a.o and if you can lead
that that's fantastic.
I agree that this is a worthwhile endeavor and I'm happy to add it to
the agenda.
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the link should go too.
I misremembered. In an earlier cleanup (January 2014), I had moved
the link to a less prominent location on the page.
OK, this time it will really go. But I'm glad I got to thank people again. :)
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General principle: inviting a PPMC member to join a podling should use
exactly the same routine as inviting a PMC member to join a TLP,
except that the entity being notified is the IPMC rather than the
Board.
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On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Billie Rinaldi bil...@apache.org
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:16 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
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wrote:
General principle: inviting a PPMC member to join a podling should use
exactly the same routine as inviting a PMC member to join a TLP,
except
out approaches that are as minimalist and
flexible as possible.
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brought the Incubator out of perpetual crisis.
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may even discover newfound flexibility. For example, when the
Incubator PMC clarified its collective understanding of release policy, it
became able to reach consensus on approving many release candidates which
would previously have been sent back.
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till now. That
skepticism must be applied aggressively at every step of the way to ensure
that we require no more than the bare minimum.
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it happen.
And I would be delighted to work with our VPs at the Board's request to refine
project requirement documentation for their separate areas.
Please assign me this task.
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@community.
Eventual Board endorsement of this document as an authoritative resource
is essential. That's what allows those who consult it to have confidence
that they can know everything Apache requires without having to search
through every last web page and email archive.
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,
and this is a policy issue not a legal one.
It would be appropriate to note the exception in the Releases section of
next month's Board report, so that the Board stays informed of how the
Incubator PMC is exercising discretion in applying the rules.
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of The Apache Way.
If the Board thinks that not knowing The Apache Way is a problem, give us a
specific definition -- and then don't hold us accountable for knowledge of any
other version.
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that a lack of clear expectations is a problem, I think that's a
big problem.
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that and requiring Mentor checkoff, we'll notice 90% of podlings that
go adrift.
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that by restructuring the Incubator.
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with dozens of
emails each day are the same discontented core who were doing it two
years ago.
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Mentorship differently than PMC membership will
be key to addressing the Incubator's structural incentive difficulties.
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On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Selvamohan Neethiraj
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Can someone add my wiki user account (Selvamohan Neethiraj)
Done.
(Wiki ID includes space.)
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On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Don Bosco Durai bo...@apache.org wrote:
Can someone please provide me write access to the incubator report wiki
pages?
My wiki id is ³bosco²
ID bosco added, happy wikifying.
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to final consensus I figure I have to set aside
2-4 weeks where reacting to developments on legal-discuss@apache must be my
top priority at all times -- and since I got busy last fall I haven't been
able to make such a commitment. Pruning complexity from Apache's policy
documentation is hard.
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On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Marvin Humphrey
mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
I'll wait until tomorrow to see if any emails get out. If not, then I'll send
manual reminders to all the relevant podling dev lists.
Since the report reminders script never fired, I sent out manual reminders
.
If anyone else is looking to step up to take care of the report, please
feel free to run the runbook.
Thanks very much for all the work you've been doing!
Enjoy your time away.
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January 2015 Incubator report timeline:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2015
Wed January 07 -- Podling reports due by end of day
Sun January 11 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day
Sun January 11 -- Summary due by end of day
Tue January 13 -- Mentor signoff due by
a solvable
problem, because it seems that The Apache Way inherently produces sprawling,
incoherent policy and policy documentation.
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On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
Might be seen as
grossly unfair by the project that remain in the old regime
There's no structure like no structure!
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are inevitable.
Proposition: It is impossible to define The Apache Way while following
The Apache Way.
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content/podlings.xml add the monthly attribute to the metadata for the
relevant podlings podlings. Such tasks are documented in report_runbook.py.
Unfortunately manual XML editing is fiddly and it's easy to either fail to add
or fail to remove, but the system is better than it was before.
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 7:33 PM, P. Taylor Goetz ptgo...@apache.org wrote:
I’d like to volunteer to help out as a shepherd.
Super! I hope you find the experience broadening.
I’ve taken the liberty of adding myself to shepherds.json file.
Extra bonus JFDI points!!
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created an account and my ID is MarkoRodriguez. Can you give
me edit permissions please?
Done.
You should be able to edit the wiki now. FYI it is updating slowly right
this moment.
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that resolutions tend to be submitted by
Mentors who are also ASF Members subscribed to board@apache.
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not ready to make a report right away.
We will file a hopefully positive report in january.
Sounds great!
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I just found out I can't edit the wiki, can you give me edit permissions?
My wiki username is TimothyChen
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Best wishes to HDT's contributors in your future endeavors.
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On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Rahul Sharma rsha...@apache.org wrote:
The VOTE passed with 6 +1 binding votes from the following PPMC members.
Jeffrey Zemerick
Chris Mattmann
Suresh Marru
Roman Shaposhnik
Rahul
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
I also request addition to the contributor group for the purpose of working
on the Corinthia proposal.
My Incubator Wiki User ID is orcmid.
Done.
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. I'm happy to wait until January, but equally happy to take
one of the assignments for folks that have two.
WIki user DrewFarris now has edit karma. Please feel free to claim an
assignment!
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://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal).
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better now.
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to enforce.
Cumbersome regulation favors the establishment, and we want to foster
innovation by newcomers.
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Can I please be granted write access on the incubator wiki (username
TonyKurc) to collaborate on a proposal?
Done.
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan
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Sorry for the late response. My username is dsetrakyan, same as the
apache ID.
Can you please give me write permissions to the Wiki?
Done.
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with the source artifacts. (It
shouldn't be!) Optionally we can get into vetting the licensing
documentation of the convenience binary, but the VOTE underway applies
only to the source.
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arguably confusing because it doesn't follow the letter of the law. But I
sure hope nobody wants to start failing release VOTEs because some IPMC member
voted only on the PPMC thread.
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easily by the PMC and documented for posterity.
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan
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Can I please get write permissions to the Wiki?
Please let us know what your username is for
wiki.apache.org/incubator. (It's not necessarily the same as your
apache ID.)
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On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Hal Lockhart hal.lockh...@oracle.com wrote:
Please add my account, HalLockhart to the wiki contributors group.
Done.
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forgotten my login and reset
emails are not reaching me.
The wiki is very slow right now --- it took several minutes for my
update to complete. (As you note on another list, Infra is aware of
the issue and working to resolve it.)
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