Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:04 PM, John Covici <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:00:50 -0400, > Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:52 PM, John Covici <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote: >> > I have not done a world up

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 00:24:09 +0700, Ста Деюс wrote: > >> But something tells me the reason of absence of the installer are >> much deeper. > > Yes, it is that no one has felt the need to devote the considerable > amount

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:52 PM, John Covici wrote: > I have not done a world update in a few weeks and I like to check > things out first before doing this. I am seeing that the latest > update of dracut has the -systemd as a mandatory flag. So, since I > have to use

Re: [gentoo-user] How to mask or remove new ebuild

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Raphael MD <raph...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 22, 2017 22:06, "Rich Freeman" <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Raphael MD <raph...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >

Re: [gentoo-user] How to mask or remove new ebuild

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Raphael MD wrote: > > KDE Appear to be a nightmare, because every 'emerge --sync' I do to solve > other problems, if KDE base has an updated version issued, and you, > acidentaly, need to install any other KDE packages that you don't have >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Simple to upgrade Linux distro

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Dale wrote: > > I have a question or two on this. The reason I went with KDE, I use it > and it is closest to being windozeish. On occasion I read where some of > those other "lighter" desktops are 'feature rich' like KDE is. Example, >

Re: [gentoo-user] AMDGPU KMS Problems

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:34 PM, jdm wrote: > > I checked the config of the kernel (inc firmware) and could not find > an issue. I then tried arch/fedora/ubuntu and all froze at boot and then > worked with nomodeset. Ok, this is pointing to a likely hardware issue IMO - I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Ian Zimmerman <i...@very.loosely.org> wrote: > On 2017-07-11 09:02, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > I use GNOME with Wayland for some time and I actually didn't notice >> > that I switched until I tried to get synergy working ( mouse sha

Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland - too early to try?

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Rasmus Thomsen wrote: > > I use GNOME with Wayland for some time and I actually didn't notice that I > switched until I tried to get synergy working ( mouse sharing software, > which only works on X ), seems like GDM automatically

Re: [gentoo-user] To install a testing version of a package on a stable OS installation.

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Ста Деюс wrote: > > Is it possible to compile/install a testing version of a package w/ its > dependencies on a stable OS installation? -- I mean, if a have stable > installation of whole the system, can i compile and install a testing >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: About using only precompiled pkgs

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Harry Putnam <rea...@newsguy.com> wrote: > Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> writes: > > "I also have gentoo pre-build binary packages where it can > overnight..." > > Not so much interested in binary... now that I see its re

Re: [gentoo-user] About using only precompiled pkgs

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > I skimmed thru some of the documentation about using binary pkgs > online, but it kind of indicated it might not be possible to get > everything in that format. As long as you use the default USE flags I don't see why you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ntp Vs openntp vis a vis Plasma desktop

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 10:34 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: > > Is it not possible to add it via a USE flag? Even if there are no real > compile time options, could the flag pull in ntp? Could a USE flag do this? Sure. Should it? No. "The usage of a USE flag should not control runtime

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-long 3-short beeps

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 9:01 AM, wrote: > > I find it hard to believe as the computer was working for 3-months > without any problem with video card in 8-bit PCI slot. > Something was definitely lost in translation here. I suspect you might be referring to 16x slots or

Re: [gentoo-user] e2fsck -a /dev/sdb1

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 15 Jun 2017 21:40:30 dan...@sonck.nl wrote: >> On Jun 15, 2017 9:28 PM, Mick wrote: > >> This is the first time I heard about discharge damage while unplugging. I >> highly doubt that

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-long 3-short beeps

I think on ASUS that code means no VGA detected. I'm not sure if modern firmwares still output to port 80, but if so that might be another way to narrow it down assuming you have a card. I'm sure there are faults on the motherboard side that could result in problems accessing the video card even

Re: [gentoo-user] how to get started with automated update world

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > Maybe some of you can steer me toward some documentation or tools etc > that help a gentoo user to do automated updates. > Unmonitored updates sounds like a recipe for problems. However, I do have a cron job that does a

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict with same package, same USE

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Sam Jorna <wra...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On 02/06/17 23:09, Rich Freeman wrote: >> The stage3 make.conf shouldn't include this. Now, if you copied your >> make.conf from some other source like a LiveCD then that could explain >> wh

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict with same package, same USE

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 06/02/2017 03:08 AM, Hogren wrote: >> Thank you all for the help. >> >> I saw a "bindist" in my global USE flag ! >> >> I really don't remember when I had that. May be when I saw it for the >> first time, I said to me "Hey

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't rebuild gentoo kernel-4.9.16 with gcc-5.4.0

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 30 May 2017 13:08:39 Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Tue, 30 May 2017 04:20:17 -0700 (PDT), Mick wrote: >> > > After gcc-config, make sure you run: >> > > # env-update >> > > # source /etc/profile >> > > >> > > It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:28 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Not sure how long ago this was. I'm planning on redoing the whole laptop in > the near future anyway. > > If anyone knows of a better way (that works without TPM) I would like to hear > about it. > I'd read up on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On May 25, 2017 1:04:07 PM GMT+02:00, Kai Krakow wrote: >>Am Thu, 25 May 2017 08:34:10 +0200 >>schrieb "J. Roeleveld" : >> >>> It is possible. I have it set up like that on my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Kai Krakow wrote: > Am Thu, 25 May 2017 08:34:10 +0200 > schrieb "J. Roeleveld" : > >> It is possible. I have it set up like that on my laptop. >> Apart from a small /boot partition. The whole drive is encrypted. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > Apparently it is pointless to encrypt swap if unencrypted > hibernation image is used, because all memory is accessible through > that image (and even if it is deleted later, it can be restored > from hdd and in some

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-05-24 08:00, Kai Krakow wrote: > >> Unix semantics suggest that /tmp is not expected to survive reboots >> anyways (in contrast, /var/tmp is expected to survive reboots), so >> tmpfs is a logical consequence to use

Re: [gentoo-user] tmp on tmpfs

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:43 AM, <gentoo-u...@c-14.de> wrote: > On 17-05-24 at 05:34, Rich Freeman wrote: > [..] >> Others have mentioned zram. I've used it, but unless something has >> changed one of its limitations is that it can't give up memory. That >> is le

Re: [gentoo-user] tmp on tmpfs

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > I have long been in the camp that thinks tmpfs for /tmp has no > advantages (and may have disadvantages) over a normal filesystem like > ext3, because the files there are normally so small that they will stay > in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: htop wants cgroups

On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: > Am Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:33:05 -0700 > schrieb Jorge Almeida : > >> It makes sense that the kernel has it. Should it be enabled? For a >> server, probably. For a single-user workstation? Maybe. > > Maybe

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd questions: hdparm unit file, OpenRC packages

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 3:27 AM, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > After 10+ years of LXDE/OpenRC I decided to give Gnome/systemd a try. > > 1. With OpenRC I used hdparm to put an external USB disk to sleep: > > $ cat /etc/conf.d/hdparm > sdb_args="-S24" > > Looks like systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] bitcoin-qt, openssl and the bindist USE flag

On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 08/04/2017 20:16, Francesco Turco wrote: >> I'm trying to globally enable the "bindist" USE flag on my system > > Why on $DEITY's green earth would you even think of doing that? > > Dont. Just ... don't. I don;t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Tools for putting HDD back to new state

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: > > Just dd /dev/zero to the complete device. That purges everything you > need: partition tables, boot sectors, contents: > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX > If it contains data you'd prefer not be recoverable you might

Re: [gentoo-user] disaster recovery - planning

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:15 PM, wrote: > Besides standard "data" backup, if I was to plan for a disaster > recovery; what to include in a backup system if I was to rebuild a new box? > > - /etc > - /var/lib/portage/world > - /usr/src/linux/.config > - /var/spool/fax/ (if

Re: [gentoo-user] Diskless nodes

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 4:25 AM, Ural <uralz...@autistici.org> wrote: > Rich Freeman: >> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:12 PM, <the...@sys-concept.com> wrote: >>> >>> So, instead of getting into trouble of making disk-less node I figure it >>> out my

Re: [gentoo-user] Converting to mirror - filesystem maintained or need to restore

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 5:14 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 18 Mar 2017 13:29:36 +1100, Adam Carter wrote: > >> IIRC when you add a device to a mirror say with; >> mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md127 --level=mirror --raid-devices=1 >> --force /dev/sdb3 >> >> I thought the

Re: [gentoo-user] Diskless nodes

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:12 PM, wrote: > > So, instead of getting into trouble of making disk-less node I figure it out > my Atom (small box) can access Main server via X2GO. I tested it on my local > network and speed wise it works OK. Buy my computer is much

Re: [gentoo-user] Diskless nodes

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 3:02 PM, wrote: > On 03/16/2017 05:58 AM, k...@aspodata.se wrote: >> Thelma: >>> Is anybody running Diskless machine, booting over network? >>> How is the speed? >> >> I've done diskless before but it has been a few years since, >> it was working

Re: [gentoo-user] ISP extortion [ Partially Resolved ]

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Corbin Bird wrote: > > Will act on the ( lawyer, deposit ) suggestions. And a new e-mail provider. > Good luck with that... Honestly, I think a lawyer is a waste of money here. If you're in the USA these sorts of arrangements are

Re: [gentoo-user] ISP extorsion - how to negate / get around?

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Corbin Bird wrote: > > My ISP ( Charter ) merged with Time-Warner. New name "Spectrum" > > 1 # : Now I have intermittent connectivity. Nothing you can do about that if it really is connectivity. > > 2 # : And with the death of FCC privacy

Re: [gentoo-user] [Off-Topic] arch-openrc

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Marvin Gülker <m-guel...@phoenixmail.de> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 07:57:19AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: >> Honestly, as somebody who monitors all the systemd bugs on Gentoo it >> isn't actually that much work, and I suspect that it wou

Re: [gentoo-user] [Off-Topic] arch-openrc

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Marvin Gülker wrote: > > With Arch, it's different. The no-systemd people need to run after all > cahnges made by the Arch team, and then place their own changes on top > of that. This creates certainly a lot of work, and certainly

Re: [gentoo-user] [Off-Topic] arch-openrc

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Daniel Frey <djqf...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 03/08/2017 11:08 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> And a parting bit of trivia: The overwhelming majority of >> Gentoo-based installations use upstart as their service manager, >> despite it n

Re: [gentoo-user] [Off-Topic] arch-openrc

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Mick wrote: > Well what do you know?! Alternative to monolithic stack solutions now exist > as alternatives for other distros too: > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/archopenrc/ > > PS. I do not wish to kick off a flame war on this

Re: [gentoo-user] rotating backup script

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:04 AM, wrote: > I was looking at this rotating backup script > > source: > https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/34970-how-to-create-rotating-backups-of-files > If you're looking for rotating backup solution based on rsync I'd take a look at

Re: [gentoo-user] SHA-1 has just been broken

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Andrew Savchenko <birc...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 19:04:06 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> Huh? I thought protection against DMA attacks was half the reason for >> an IOMMU in the first place. >> >> ht

Re: [gentoo-user] Gpgme oddity

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 04 Mar 2017 14:59:51 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> ... It's a ~arch package, so you get to be a field tester when you use it >> :-) > > As Marc said, it isn't. But I'm incredulous that gpgme wasn't tested on a

Re: [gentoo-user] SHA-1 has just been broken

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 03:42:24 -0500 taii...@gmx.com wrote: >> >> The IOMMU (theoretically) protects the CPU and memory from rogue >> devices, such as the hard drive. > > No. Any DMA capable device can bypass IOMMU. IOMMU

Re: [gentoo-user] SHA-1 has just been broken

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 8:10 PM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Apologies for my not being able to reply sooner! > > On 170227-18:18+0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > >> > And via a new private big business, the Github. Giving over all users to >> > big Github brother. >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] SHA-1 has just been broken

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I always though git's use of SHA hashes was to identify commits and > detect random bit flips, not to provide any measure of security. > As somebody said in Twitter recently (and Linus to some degree in his post),

Re: [gentoo-user] SHA-1 has just been broken

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > So danger of SHA1 collision is much closer than > 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 SHA1 computations or 1 110-GPU year. Indeed in every way it is closer than that than when Google started their project, and tomorrow it

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange hickups while trying to compile a kernel in a chroot

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 9:26 AM, wrote: > > yes the option was set for what reason ever...I will clear that. > Next question...: Do I need v86d still then? Probably not, but I have no idea why you even had it in the first place. > > Another thing which drives me crazy: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange hickups while trying to compile a kernel in a chroot

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 8:59 AM, wrote: > Fernando Rodriguez [17-02-25 14:36]: >> >> Check the CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE option. >> > > I will check the configs...may be there is something not readable > (permissions) ... I had copied a lot back and forth

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel modules: initramfs vs. /lib/modules

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 5:58 AM, marco restelli wrote: > >> The short version is that the kernel is very limited in what it can >> take in the root= option on the command line, and grub and other >> bootloaders don't do anything to ID the root filesystem other than >> passing

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel modules: initramfs vs. /lib/modules

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 5:53 AM, marco restelli wrote: > > Could you suggest any reference about how an initramfs can help making > it easier to identify the correct root filesystem? Does this > functionality overlap with what grub can do, or is something > different? > The

Re: [gentoo-user] fatrace

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > $ fatrace > Cannot initialize fanotify: Function not implemented > > Up–to–date system. Maybe the ebuild misses some dependency? > Or some kernel configuration? > Check CONFIG_FANOTIFY. -- Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] Need help interpreting kernel panic

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > Again I get a kernel panic but this time its different. It seems to > mount the disks ok but then fails to find a working `init' command. > > Checking that with sysrescueCD I see /sbin/init does exist on that new vm. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Working on fresh install, question about handbook statement

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 9:05 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > Don't think I've had occassion to use emerge --config before. > Not many packages use it. I know mysql uses it to initialize the database, which is something you obviously don't want to do every time you update the

Re: [gentoo-user] Working on fresh install, question about handbook statement

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > What is really puzzling is the the words `reconfigure' that package. > But then there is nothing said about what this `reconfiguring' > consists of. > > It used to be we just either copied the appropriate zimezone

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel modules: initramfs vs. /lib/modules

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 6:58 AM, marco restelli wrote: > Hi all, >I am trying to understand a bit initramfs and genkernel and I have > few (basic) questions. > > I understand that one must have in the initramfs those modules which > are required to boot the system, for

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Can I run a 32-bit CentOS chroot on a 64-bit Gentoo host?

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Walter Dnes <waltd...@waltdnes.org> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 08:27:41PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote > >> As you can see, there is limited ability for even root to accidentally >> mess something up. If you bind-mount /dev in a re

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Can I run a 32-bit CentOS chroot on a 64-bit Gentoo host?

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > It shouldn't matter that they are bind-mounted. The -x switch excludes > anything on a different filesystem. > Agree, but I will note that one of the advantages of using a container and mounting a new /dev is that you

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I run a 32-bit CentOS chroot on a 64-bit Gentoo host?

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Any idea how to gracefully handle the missing /dev problem? I tried > mounting /dev, /proc, and /sys, similar to the chroot process in the > Gentoo install instructions. But I couldn't unmount afterwards, short > of

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I run a 32-bit CentOS chroot on a 64-bit Gentoo host?

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > What I'd like to do is a 32-bit CentOS chroot inside my 64-bit Gentoo > desktop host. I'm looking at rsync'ing the / directory from inside the > CentOS VM file system to a directory on the 64-bit host, and then

Re: [gentoo-user] New Installation

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 11:53 AM, wrote: > > Thank you all, yes good advice. I have removed most of the entries from > the "USE=" what is left (and I'm not even sure I need them). This is a good way to get started. Get your system working, then start playing with it. At

Re: [gentoo-user] New Installation

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Floyd Anderson wrote: > > That’s why Gentoo is often regarded as the freedom of choice. This includes the freedom to shoot yourself in the foot. I suggest that new users consider going with the defaults except when they have a reason not to.

Re: [gentoo-user] New Installation

On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Size of swap is the classic cargo-cult question, ++ > > Modern kernels DO get nervous if they have no swap at all - it's used > internally. So make a small amount of swap to make the kernel happy, say > 64M or

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > Thanks again to our developers who keep to the matchless Unix tradition, > and allow such great choice in Gentoo (also to the other, poetterware > side, as in choice, if you will)! > Well, the intent is to

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 5:47 PM, lee wrote: > > Yes, and that doesn't show me news before I sync, or does it? > Correct. The order to do this in is: Sync Read news. Apply updates. Syncing doesn't affect anything other than /usr/portage (or wherever you're keeping it). --

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 8:52 PM, lee wrote: > > I didn't see portage or anything else give me any instructions or > warnings about this. The names just suddenly changed, and that screwed > things up. > https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2013-03-29-udev-upgrade.html

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:46 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > > How does a file take up less than a single FS block? An inode has to be > allocated _somewhere_, does it not? > So, the details are going to be filesystem-specific, but typically inodes go into some kind of area of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Doesn't it strike you as curious Not really. :) > 10s of harmless unit files (text), each less than one fs block? > Setting aside the core of this issue (which everybody has already gone on about ad nauseum,

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:20 PM, <meino.cra...@gmx.de> wrote: > >> The following USE changes are necessary to proceed: >> (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more d

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:20 PM, wrote: > > emerge -t --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y --tree --keep-going > --backtrack=30 --exclude media-video/nvidia-settings --exclude > app-misc/screen --exclude app-misc/ytree --exclude dev-python/sip --exclude >

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > > And this again. You know the difference between OpenSource and ClosedSource? > > You pay for ClosedSource. For OpenSource you don't need to pay. But I > have neither time nor energy to explain you the philosophy

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 1:44 PM, wrote: > Corbin Bird [16-12-21 17:12]: > The first run of emerge tells me to add the systemd USE flag to dbus. > I did that and ran into to problems I reported. Ok, I think you left that bit out... And this is why

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Corbin Bird wrote: > > The old manual method of configuration is extremely flexible, you can > get the "who-knows-where-it-came-from-component" to work. The new > "automagic" of udev / systemd forget it. At least with script based >

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Corbin Bird wrote: > > On 12/21/2016 06:59 AM, Matthias Hanft wrote: >> Corbin Bird wrote: >>> The "sys-fs/eudev" package is the Gentoo fork of "sys-fs/udev" for >>> people who don't want systemd. >> Ehm... I still use "sys-fs/udev" (not

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Matthias Hanft wrote: > Corbin Bird wrote: >> >> The "sys-fs/eudev" package is the Gentoo fork of "sys-fs/udev" for >> people who don't want systemd. > > Ehm... I still use "sys-fs/udev" (not eudev) without systemd. > No problems so far. Do I have

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:09 AM, wrote: > > The problem is that an ever increasing amount of programs list systemd > or some of its libs as a depenancy. So it is getting harder and harder > to opt out. > > The situation is similar to the one with udev and variants. Some >

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Tanstaafl <tansta...@libertytrek.org> wrote: > On 12/20/2016 9:33 PM, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Alan Mackenzie <a...@muc.de> wrote: >>> systemd is primarily a political pro

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:49 PM, Daniel Campbell <z...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On 12/20/2016 06:33 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> We don't have some >> committee on high pick a winner and tell all the maintainers that they >> all have to move from supporting x to supportin

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

nd therefore I should also contribute to something that you like. > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:57:02PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Heiko Baums <li...@baums-on-web.de> wrote: >> > Am 20.12.2016 um 17:47 schrieb Rich Freeman: > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Yes, the predictable names are pointless on a single-NIC system, which is > why there exist simple methods to switch back to the old way. > Either that, or just use a wildcard. I just stick e* in my network

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Heiko Baums <li...@baums-on-web.de> wrote: > Am 20.12.2016 um 17:47 schrieb Rich Freeman: >> Clearly nobody forced you to run it, because you aren't running it >> now. > > That's again one of those silly arguments. I'm just not run

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am 19.12.2016 um 15:52 schrieb Marc Joliet: >> That is incorrect, systemd allows for overriding files in >> /etc/systemd/system/${unit_name}.d/*.conf. > > Then this is very new. > They've been supported for quite a

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > The truth is, as designs > go, sysvinit is a /terrible/ design. It only lasted 30 years because it > forces all the tricky bits to be someone else's problem > I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying "terrible" - it

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 3:23 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > > Thankfully the kernel seems to have sane management; as long as Linus is > around, anyway. Just recently AMD had some of their code rejected, so > with a vigilant-enough team, you can effectively protect your project >

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > > And the next silly argument which always comes from these Poettering > fanboys. As if everybody is a programmer, and as if everybody who uses a > computer and/or Linux has to be a programmer. > Well, beggars can't be

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am 17.12.2016 um 14:17 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > >>> So tell me how I >>> get a full refund for systemd and how to switch to something usable. >> >> I've answered the latter, your refund is attached :) > > No, you didn't.

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: > On 161216-08:35-0500, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> I'm not sure I understand what distinction you're making. I can't say >> I'm intimately familiar with the security model around

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: > On 161216-07:16-0500, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 5:19 AM, Miroslav Rovis >> <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: >> > >> > In my stron opin

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 5:19 AM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > In my stron opinion, and opinions are allowed in Gentoo, just not > imposing your opinion onto others (and that I am not doing, feel free > to disagree!), pulseadio is spyware, read more here: > > Re:

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-sources-4.9.0

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > Has anyone stumbled over a display problem with this kernel? Copying the > .config from 4.8.14, tweaking with oldconfig and compiling left me with a > blank display and no booting activity. > > The

Re: [gentoo-user] Umasking media-tv/mythtv-0.28?

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday 05 Dec 2016 21:58:55 Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Paul B. Henson <hen...@acm.org> wrote: >> >> From: Rich Freeman >> >> Sent: Thursday, Dec

Re: [gentoo-user] Umasking media-tv/mythtv-0.28?

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Paul B. Henson <hen...@acm.org> wrote: >> From: Rich Freeman >> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 12:14 PM >> >> The other issue is that my mythtv front-end died shortly after I got >> it into the tree, and I've ended up m

Re: [gentoo-user] Bash script: make a convenient /mnt/gentoo tree for a new install or development

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > The Gentoo Handbook provides detailed instructions for preparing a > /mnt/gentoo > file system tree for new installations. After having to dig through the > Handbook a > few times of doing new or re-installs of Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Umasking media-tv/mythtv-0.28?

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Paul B. Henson wrote: > Any dev thoughts on unmasking media-tv/mythtv-0.28? I don't generally > have issues with keywording unstable packages for testing and deploying > ahead of the curve, but I usually try to avoid things that are package >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vm still grinding away at compiling webkitgtk-2.14.2

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel <a...@alectenharmsel.com> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:32:25AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> writes: >> >> > Are you building in a tmpfs? That would perform better tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vm still grinding away at compiling webkitgtk-2.14.2

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 9:48 AM, John Covici <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote: > On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 09:25:58 -0500, > Harry Putnam wrote: >> >> Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> writes: >> >> > IMO over-committing CPU isn't actually THAT bad. The CPU o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vm still grinding away at compiling webkitgtk-2.14.2

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > "J. Roeleveld" writes: > >> Also, overcommitting CPUs has a bad influence on performance, >> especially if the host wants to use all cores as well. > > That is what I asked advice about. What do you

Re: [gentoo-user] sans-dbus was: gnome intrusion?

On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Miroslav Rovis > wrote: >> >> Ah, I almost forgot. Gentoo is as default (OpenRC) without dbus! Have a >> look: >> >>

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