Re: djbdns

2001-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Peter Cavender wrote: > I still like the idea of collecting a reward if I find an exploit, rather > than paying to find out about them. You. Will. Not. Have. To. Pay. To. Find. Out. About. An. Exploit. Can we make it any more clear for you, or are you being ob

Re: djbdns

2001-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Peter Cavender wrote more on djbdns. As Jeff Smith says, it is all about choice. If you like djbdns, by all means, use it. Myself, I find the djbdns website and what it describes has too much inconsistency, misinformation, error, omission, disregard of standard, flaming,

Re: djbdns

2001-02-22 Thread Peter Cavender
I still like the idea of collecting a reward if I find an exploit, rather than paying to find out about them. For all the talk on this list about people being concerned about system security, it baffles me why, when it comes to things like BIND, people justify continuing to use it, and attack alt

Re: djbdns

2001-02-22 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
This is an extremely misunderstood point. The point here is not to have people pay in order to find out what the bugs are. The point is to streamline the process for developers and commercial vendors. The pay service is for companies that supply a commercial version of BIND and need to deploy cust

Re: djbdns

2001-02-22 Thread Peter Cavender
> Clarification: I hate using software that says, "Standards aren't important; > do things my way." You have yet to name a part of the standard(s) it does not support. One of *my* standards for software is to NOT have a security hole big enough to drive a truck trough be discovered every other

Re: Bill Sconce

2001-02-22 Thread Dana S. Tellier
Wow... I'm just catching up on the list now after having been home for a week recovering from an appendectomy last Friday... I definitely know how he feels, and wish him well! - Dana On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Bruce Dawson wrote: > Our good friend and fellow penguin lover, Bill Sconce, is

Re: fonts

2001-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, jesse mcdougall wrote: > Does anyone know where I could download more fonts for > X? This is someone application-specific, but I find this site http://fox.mit.edu/skunk/xwin/ to be worth its weight in gold. Look for "Mozilla (Netscape) Fonts", near the end. --

Re: djbdns

2001-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Thomas Charron wrote: >> >> I do not like software that tells me to go jump in a lake. > > *AHEM* Then perhaps you should start scratching your itch, so to say. Hey, you are the one who said that said I should go check out djbdns. I went and took a look. I found t

Re: Distro War - Was Re: Warning Banner?

2001-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Tony Lambiris wrote: > (getting the X installer running from the CDROM takes _forever_. Geez, what are you installing on, a 386? It only takes maybe ten seconds on anything made in the past three years... :-) -- Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Net Technologies, Inc.

Re: Distro War - Was Re: Warning Banner?

2001-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Tony Lambiris wrote: > if you have a 3com, and you know its model is 3c509, i would hope you had > enough common sense to load 3c509.o. Sure. But if you have a LNE100TX, would you know to load tulip.o? :-) Besides, like I keep saying: If the computer can figure it out

Re: Bill Sconce

2001-02-22 Thread Jeffry Smith
Bruce Dawson said: > Our good friend and fellow penguin lover, Bill Sconce, is in the hospital. > > He is doing well and rapidly recovering from emergency abdominal surgery. They > expect to discharge him "real soon now". (Good thing hospitals aren't in the > software business!) > > If you wish

Re: broken structure??

2001-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Kevin D. Clark wrote: > Never place any code that has side-effects in an assert() statement. Doh! I knew that, too. Hell, I even considered mentioning it! Talk about missing the forest for the trees. Or, in this case, missing the tree I'm standing in front of for the

Re: broken structure??

2001-02-22 Thread Derek Martin
Today, Tony Lambiris gleaned this insight: > okay, maybe i am missing the point totally with structures. here is my code, let > me know whats wrong with it: > > struct utsname *host_uname; > > host_uname = (struct utsname *)malloc(sizeof(struct utsname)); > uname(host_uname); > > system_os = m

Re: broken structure??

2001-02-22 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > okay, maybe i am missing the point totally with structures. here is my code, let > me know whats wrong with it: > > struct utsname *host_uname; > > host_uname = (struct utsname *)malloc(sizeof(struct utsname)); > uname(host_uname); > > system_os = malloc(strlen(host

Re: broken structure??

2001-02-22 Thread Tony Lambiris
okay, maybe i am missing the point totally with structures. here is my code, let me know whats wrong with it: struct utsname *host_uname; host_uname = (struct utsname *)malloc(sizeof(struct utsname)); uname(host_uname); system_os = malloc(strlen(host_uname->sysname)+1); strncpy(system_os, (host

Re: broken structure??

2001-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, John Abreau wrote: >> system_os = malloc(strlen(host_uname->sysname)); >> system_os = (host_uname->sysname); > > In both cases, you're malloc'ing one byte too little. Actually, in both cases, the OP is malloc'ing way too many bytes. Any amount is too many, you see. The O

Re: broken structure??

2001-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Tony Lambiris wrote: > when I set a pointer to the structure, and say, get the OS version: > > struct utsname *host_uname; Are you allocating a memory buffer and pointing host_uname to it before invoking uname: struct utsname buf; uname(&buf); > os_versio

Re: broken structure??

2001-02-22 Thread Tony Lambiris
yeah, i didnt take into account the NULL char see what happens when people make me get up before 10am :) John Abreau wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Tony Lambiris wrote: > > > struct utsname *host_uname; > > > > os_version = malloc(strlen(host_uname->release)); > > os_version = (host_un

Re: broken structure??

2001-02-22 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > when I set a pointer to the structure, and say, get the OS version: What do you mean by "set a pointer"? Are you actually allocating a "struct utsname" or merely a pointer to one? > struct utsname *host_uname; Only a pointer? Don't do that! You must allocate an

Re: broken structure??

2001-02-22 Thread John Abreau
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Tony Lambiris wrote: > struct utsname *host_uname; > > os_version = malloc(strlen(host_uname->release)); > os_version = (host_uname->release); > > it gives me 2.4.1, no problem... but when I try to get the OS name, > > system_os = malloc(strlen(host_uname->sysname)); > sys

Re: fwd: [discuss] Try the following

2001-02-22 Thread Jeffry Smith
Benjamin Scott said: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Jeffry Smith wrote: > >> Okay. Somebody had *way* too much free time on their hands. :-) > > > > 1. It wasn't me who found it. > > Sorry, I didn't mean the person who found the Easter Egg (and I know it > wasn't you). I was referring to the per

Re: fwd: [discuss] Try the following

2001-02-22 Thread Kurth Bemis
At 04:08 PM 2/22/2001, Jeffry Smith wrote: and we all wonder why star office is a RAM hog :-) ~kurth >Lawrence.Tilly said: > > OK, for those poor saps among us (myself included) who do not have > > StarOffice, but do consider themselves Star Wars fans, could someone PLEASE > > say briefly what

Re: fwd: [discuss] Try the following

2001-02-22 Thread Jeffry Smith
Lawrence.Tilly said: > OK, for those poor saps among us (myself included) who do not have > StarOffice, but do consider themselves Star Wars fans, could someone PLEASE > say briefly what this causes?!?!?!?! :-o > > -Larry It pops up a little star-wars game. Haven't tried it myself, other than

RE: fwd: [discuss] Try the following

2001-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OK, for those poor saps among us (myself included) who do not have > StarOffice ... I'm not sure that qualifies you as a "poor sap" Indeed, many would construe it as a feature. :-) > ... but do consider themselves Star Wars fans, could someone P

broken structure??

2001-02-22 Thread Tony Lambiris
i highly doubt the structure is broken, but its not working for me... in sys/utsname.h (man 2 uname), the structure utsname is used to grab info about the system, like OS name, OS version, architechture, etc when I set a pointer to the structure, and say, get the OS version: struct utsname

Re: fwd: [discuss] Try the following

2001-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Jeffry Smith wrote: >> Okay. Somebody had *way* too much free time on their hands. :-) > > 1. It wasn't me who found it. Sorry, I didn't mean the person who found the Easter Egg (and I know it wasn't you). I was referring to the person who coded it up in the first pl

RE: fwd: [discuss] Try the following

2001-02-22 Thread Lawrence.Tilly
OK, for those poor saps among us (myself included) who do not have StarOffice, but do consider themselves Star Wars fans, could someone PLEASE say briefly what this causes?!?!?!?! :-o -Larry -Original Message- From: Benjamin Scott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: fwd: [discuss] Try the following

2001-02-22 Thread Jeffry Smith
Benjamin Scott said: > Okay. Somebody had *way* too much free time on their hands. :-) > 1. It wasn't me who found it. 2. Of course someone had free time - this is Linux, not Windows ;-) jeff --- Jeffry Smith Tech

Re: fwd: [discuss] Try the following

2001-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Jeffry Smith wrote: > For those using Star Office 5.2 - not only did they copy the bugs/bloat/bad > help (OK, this qualifies as bloat). > > Try it. > > Type: > > =GAME("StarWars") > > into a cell in StarOffice 5.2 calc. Okay. Somebody had *way* too much free time on th

Re: djbdns (was: Heads up for named?)

2001-02-22 Thread Jeffry Smith
Peter Cavender said: > >One other nit (for me) with djbdns - I went to the web site, looked all > >through it, downloaded both the tarball and the documentation tarball, > >untarred & went through every piece I could. For the life of me, I can't find > >a license. This, of course, explains why i

autotools was Re: Encryption questions

2001-02-22 Thread Jeff Macdonald
I just started doing auto tools stuff for the last 4 months, after looking at it over a year ago and failing to understand it. The 'Goat' book does a decent job of explaining things, but an additional book that follows the 'Perl Cookbook' would be even better. One thing that the autotools highligh

Re: autotools was Re: Encryption questions

2001-02-22 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Now, here's a autotools question. What's the best way of allowing the user > to supply a path to a library that your package needs? I currently have > this: I don't think that you'd want to use AC_ARG_WITH here. You say that "your package needs" this external librar

Re: auto

2001-02-22 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Derek Martin wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Cole Tuininga wrote: Before I get flooded with mail on this one, that was a ^X instead of ^C... (In pine, the first is send, and the second is cancel.) You'll notice they're right next together on the keyboard... :) -- Derek Mar

Re: auto

2001-02-22 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:54:01 EST Derek Martin said: >-- >Derek Martin >Senior System Administrator >Mission Critical Linux >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank for that quite insightful and meaningful contribution Derek. If only more people on this list could match your wit, intelligence,

auto

2001-02-22 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Cole Tuininga wrote: > Paul Lussier wrote: > > [snip] > > or, > > use autoconf/automake to detect that gpg is(n't) installed and do > > the appropriate thing. > > Which segues very nicely (thanks Paul *grin*) to the other question I > had. > > What's a good resource for le

Re: djbdns (was: Heads up for named?)

2001-02-22 Thread Peter Cavender
>One other nit (for me) with djbdns - I went to the web site, looked all >through it, downloaded both the tarball and the documentation tarball, >untarred & went through every piece I could. For the life of me, I can't find >a license. This, of course, explains why it's not in Debian (no >redist

Re: Encryption questions

2001-02-22 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:00:11 EST Cole Tuininga said: >Paul Lussier wrote: > >> use autoconf/automake to detect that gpg is(n't) installed and do >> the appropriate thing. > >Which segues very nicely (thanks Paul *grin*) to the other question I >had. > >What's a good resource for

Re: fonts

2001-02-22 Thread Tony Lambiris
download and install xfstt, and go to www.1001freefonts.com jesse mcdougall wrote: > Does anyone know where I could download more fonts for > X? > > - > Jesse McDougall > www.gaufo.com > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things

fonts

2001-02-22 Thread jesse mcdougall
Does anyone know where I could download more fonts for X? - Jesse McDougall www.gaufo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ *

fwd: [discuss] Try the following

2001-02-22 Thread Jeffry Smith
For those using Star Office 5.2 - not only did they copy the bugs/bloat/bad help (OK, this qualifies as bloat). Try it. jeff --- Jeffry Smith Technical Sales Consultant Mission Critical Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone

Re: Encryption questions

2001-02-22 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In any case, I was wondering if anybody would care to recommend any (C > based) GPL'd encryption packages for this use? Any you would recommend > against? I would recommend Blowfish. (it is patent-free, royalty-free, source code is available, etc.) --kevin -- "I

Re: djbdns (was: Heads up for named?)

2001-02-22 Thread Thomas Charron
From: "Paul Lussier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: djbdns (was: Heads up for named?) > In a message dated: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:16:39 EST > "Thomas Charron" said: > >*AHEM* Then perhaps you should start scratching your itch, so to say. > >:-) > Well, technically he doesn't have one, since h

Re: Encryption questions

2001-02-22 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > What's a good resource for learning about the auto tools? I tried once > about a year ago from the gnu site and found it to be fairly confusing. > I haven't seen an O'Reilly about the topic - any other thoughts? http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/download.html If

Re: Encryption questions

2001-02-22 Thread Cole Tuininga
Paul Lussier wrote: [snip] > or, > use autoconf/automake to detect that gpg is(n't) installed and do > the appropriate thing. Which segues very nicely (thanks Paul *grin*) to the other question I had. What's a good resource for learning about the auto tools? I tried once about a year ago from

Re: Encryption questions

2001-02-22 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) should do what you are looking for. It uses /dev/urandom to generate the salt, and the Rijndael algorithm and the Cipher Block Feedback method for encrypting streams of data. http://aescrypt.sourceforge.net/ FYI, Kenny Cole Tuininga wrote: > > Hi folks - I

Re: Encryption questions

2001-02-22 Thread Mark Komarinski
Encryption is a passing hobby of mine, but I'm not a coder, so take what I say with this big grain of salt. Speaking of sale, crypt is pretty breakable. Most modern Linux distros use MD5 hashing. Problem with this is that it's a one-way hash which will be useless for your use. Best bet is to t

Re: Encryption questions

2001-02-22 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:38:21 EST Cole Tuininga said: >In any case, I was wondering if anybody would care to recommend any (C >based) GPL'd encryption packages for this use? Any you would recommend >against? Why not use Gnu Privacy Guard (gpg) and allow the user to choose the ke

Encryption questions

2001-02-22 Thread Cole Tuininga
Hi folks - I have a couple of encryption related questions for the programmers in the group. I'm in the process of coding an application that I need to have store data files. Now, some of these data files will need to be encrypted (at the option of the user). The basic implementation concept I

Re: djbdns (was: Heads up for named?)

2001-02-22 Thread Jeffry Smith
One other nit (for me) with djbdns - I went to the web site, looked all through it, downloaded both the tarball and the documentation tarball, untarred & went through every piece I could. For the life of me, I can't find a license. This, of course, explains why it's not in Debian (no redistr

Re: djbdns (was: Heads up for named?)

2001-02-22 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:16:39 EST "Thomas Charron" said: >*AHEM* Then perhaps you should start scratching your itch, so to say. >:-) Well, technically he doesn't have one, since he's using BIND :) -- Seeya, Paul It may look like I'm just sitting here doing not

Re: djbdns (was: Heads up for named?)

2001-02-22 Thread Thomas Charron
From: "Benjamin Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Greater NH Linux Users' Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:28 PM Subject: djbdns (was: Heads up for named?) > > It *does* support TCP, if you really think you need it: > That very comment exemplifies the single biggest

Re: Distro War - Was Re: Warning Banner?

2001-02-22 Thread Tony Lambiris
"Tilly, Lawrence" wrote: > To begin, I am a Debian user, and have not had install problems any > of the times I've gone through the process. I will admit that it's probably > not for the average "I just bought my first computer" user, but for myself, > it's fine. Personally, as long as

Re: Distro War - Was Re: Warning Banner?

2001-02-22 Thread Tony Lambiris
Jeffry Smith wrote: [snip] > > Some people in the Debian community (I don't necessarily mean anyone here) > > seem to identify with that joke a bit more than is healthy. There was an > ... [snip] ... > and, as you said, if you make it too hard, they will go for the easy, but not > as useful

Re: Distro War - Was Re: Warning Banner?

2001-02-22 Thread Jeffry Smith
Tilly, Lawrence said: >> What I AM writing is to ask about the above statement. Could you > give a more specific example of "multiple paths" as far as you see them? > The end goal of any installer should be "system up and running." Likewise, > they all have the same starting point..."no sys

Re: Distro War - Was Re: Warning Banner?

2001-02-22 Thread Tony Lambiris
Benjamin Scott wrote: > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Tony Lambiris wrote: > > It's very straight-forward, and as long as you know a little about your > > system (at least the module you use for your ethernet device), Debian will > > install no problem. > > Hmmm. What about the 99.9% of the population

RE: Distro War - Was Re: Warning Banner?

2001-02-22 Thread Tilly, Lawrence
> -Original Message- > From: Benjamin Scott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:59 PM > To: Greater NH Linux Users' Group > Subject: Re: Distro War - Was Re: Warning Banner? > > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Tony Lambiris wrote: > What I meant by "mu

More removals

2001-02-22 Thread Mark Gelinas
All, My previous reply turned up several more problematic addresses - I've purged them as well. Remember - if you encounter any problems with the list (bad addresses, seeming mail stoppages, etc.) just drop me a line at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll look into it ASAP. MarkG GNHLUG List Maintainer

djbdns (was: Heads up for named?)

2001-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Peter Cavender wrote: > It seems you didn't really look at djbdns too carefully, but just gave it > a quick and cursory bashing, based on misunderstandings of both the > software and the RFCs. I'm really not interested in getting into a flamewar about this. Suffice it to s