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2005-08-27 Thread Stan Zaske
I apologize to everyone for starting this thread with my wise crack about growing female Hemp and selling the buds to Canada. Have a nice weekend! Gary Udstrand wrote: Are you reading the same thread? When you crawl down off of your high horse you can explain to me where I say I care how man

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2005-08-27 Thread Stan Zaske
State-assisted suicide? Sounds like my kind of place to live! Hayes Elkins wrote: From: Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:48:53 -0300 At 04:11 PM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand

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2005-08-27 Thread Stan Zaske
Tell that to the thousands of small boys raped by sexually frustrated and sex-obsessed Catholic priests! Gary Udstrand wrote: Big difference, without food and water you die. Without sex you become a nerd. LOL -Gary Stan Zaske said the following on 8/25/2005 12:25 PM: The time follow

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2005-08-27 Thread Stan Zaske
Where I work half the people use pot and crack! In downtown Peoria, IL. drugs especially crack cocaine is easily available 24/7 and in the small surrounding towns speed is also rampant. Hows that for drug enforcement? Gary Udstrand wrote: You are making a HUGE assumption, that being that enfo

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2005-08-27 Thread warpmedia
LOL!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: "Gary Udstrand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you really believe that? Did you parents ever wash your mouth out with soap for swearing? Did it make you think twice about dropping the f bomb in front of them? Why? Did the soap make yo

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2005-08-27 Thread warpmedia
Lol, and he wonders why I posted the ABCD list of trying to pin down where he's coming from. Face it Gary you are the only one here still arguing this and what you are arguing I know not short of trying to prove that if it was legal 2x as many would smoke it and punishment deters usage. TO whi

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2005-08-27 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Gary Udstrand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:08 AM Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices you really believe that? Did you parents ever wash your mouth out with soap for swearing? Did it

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2005-08-27 Thread Gary Udstrand
Are you reading the same thread? When you crawl down off of your high horse you can explain to me where I say I care how many people are smoking pot? My statement was in the context that PUNISHMENT DETERS USAGE. You are entitled to your opinion but assuming so you would also have to believe th

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2005-08-26 Thread Julian Hale
No I don't think that the drug laws have a significant effect on consumption. I know quite a few people who indulge in a variety of drugs on a regular basis, regardless of the laws. I also know of high school students getting high on OTC drugs, which is certainly worse than smoking a little w

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2005-08-26 Thread Julian Hale
Me? I thought you were the condescending one. Anyway, go to walmart, costco, etc. and look at the price of generic drugs. You can get 200 generic excedrine for $4. 400 generic aleve for ~$8. Generic claritin is similarly priced. It's the drugs on patent that are ridiculously priced. So a

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2005-08-26 Thread Al
warpmedia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, the ever crazy Foamy's rants! > > This guy is a comedy genius but should of had Pilz-E in on that one > also. LOL Hooked on cream cheese :) Al

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2005-08-26 Thread warpmedia
Ah, the ever crazy Foamy's rants! This guy is a comedy genius but should of had Pilz-E in on that one also. LOL Al wrote: See what foamy has to say: http://www.illwillpress.com/drugs.html a little humor, Al

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2005-08-26 Thread Al
See what foamy has to say: http://www.illwillpress.com/drugs.html a little humor, Al

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2005-08-26 Thread j m g
There's a difference between getting arrested for smoking something on the front porch versus getting arrested for breaking down a door. On 8/25/05, Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How many of those in jail for drugs are helpless Grandma's and > teenagers? Simple question, do the drug

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2005-08-26 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Gary Udstrand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 2:25 AM Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices drug use? That is just plain silly. If mary jane were legal and sold at the local drug store there wo

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2005-08-26 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 05:04 PM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: Yes. Ok, now I know you're just playing with us. Good one. T

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
I am none of the below and thanks for making it about me. I always enjoy ad hominem attacks, it is a sign of a weak position. The last thing I believe is that the government is always right, you could not be further from the truth. I am also not the product of any warped era (whatever that is).

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
Like all the other drugs from Pharmaceutical companies? Now, that is a good one. Add to it all the taxes that are sure to be imposed and all of the legal obligation that comes from being part of the delivery chain. Low prices are a dream. BTW, do you always find it necessary to be so condescen

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
I am aware of the history, I just think the situations are very different regardless of what you might believe. Think about it, the drugs are legal do you think all the illegal fields will be plowed under? Do you think they will stop growing their crop? Why would they? -Gary Julian Hale sai

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2005-08-25 Thread warpmedia
Let me go out on a limb here and assume Gary is either: A. Old enough to be like my booze hound grandparents who thought the government was always right. B. Just young enough to be the product of their warped era. C. A staunch conservative (though so is William F Buckley & he gets it). D. A for

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2005-08-25 Thread warpmedia
Last post (sorry Jim). No I don't, but then I already am paying for the current non-productive war(s) effort, aren't I? People are flawed, some more than others, so it's not as simple as "it's your fault, take it like a (wo)man" law or health policy. Nuff BSing, when do we get that new 3D s

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2005-08-25 Thread Julian Hale
There was also a thriving, legal business for MJ, opiates, cocaine, etc. before prohibition. Again, no difference at all. Legal drugs will come from, and this may shock you, pharmaceutical companies... since there is no patent, prices will be low. Julian At 12:52 PM 8/25/2005, you wrote: B

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2005-08-25 Thread Julian Hale
Crack open a history book. What happened after the end of prohibition is what makes us think that ending drug/MJ prohibition will make them walk away. The is no difference between the two. However, excessively high taxation will create a black market. Julian At 12:24 PM 8/25/2005, you wrot

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2005-08-25 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 06:32 PM 8/25/2005, Hayes Elkins typed: Marijuana laws send a mixed signal because two drugs that are more harmful, alcohol and chemically treated tobacco, are allowed to be sold over the counter. You ever hear about a raging pot head beating his wife? No, but we see plenty of violent drug d

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2005-08-25 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 03:30 PM 8/25/2005, Hayes Elkins typed: What happened to moonshiners and the whiskey running mafia filth of the 30's? The Kennedy's still have most all of their money.. --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805

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2005-08-25 Thread Julian Hale
On that note, in states where they have high taxation of tobacco, they are starting to see "illegal" tobacco sold, often coming from the middle east(supposedly was financing Saddam). You make a product that is in demand illegal, and the illegal sorts fill that demand. Make it legal, and you c

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2005-08-25 Thread Eli Allen
0's? From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:24:10 -0500 That is one of the most ludicrous arguments being tossed about by the legalizing drugs crowd. What in God's name

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2005-08-25 Thread Hayes Elkins
home rememdy of choice for my father's side of the family. From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:26:52 -0500 Never said they would not. You think the criminals will stand idly

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2005-08-25 Thread Hayes Elkins
is no involvement from the usual criminal elements of the illegal drug trade whatsoever. From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:06:05 -0500 Draw that conclusion for me Hayes. You do not

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2005-08-25 Thread Eli Allen
Using that definition I'd say they aren't working Eli - Original Message - From: "Gary Udstrand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Your problem is you have failed to de

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
? >>>> >>>> -Gary >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hayes Elkins said the following on 8/25/2005 2:30 PM: >>>> >>>>> What happened to moonshiners and the whiskey running mafia filth of >>>>&g

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2005-08-25 Thread Eli Allen
to come from? -Gary Hayes Elkins said the following on 8/25/2005 2:30 PM: What happened to moonshiners and the whiskey running mafia filth of the 30's? From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Date: Thu, 2

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
> > - Original Message - From: "Gary Udstrand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "The Hardware List" > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:56 PM > Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices > > >> Your problem is you have failed to define working. If by working

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
they do not *prevent* crime." > > - GG Liddy > > >> From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: The Hardware List >> To: The Hardware List >> Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices >> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:44:03 -0500 >> >> Ho

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
I know the history, thanks anyways. -Gary Eli Allen said the following on 8/25/2005 4:05 PM: > By the way most drugs were legal originally. You may want a small > history lesson: > > http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html > > > Eli > - Original Messa

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
You win. I guess it is time to legalize murder, robbery, rape, etc. since I cannot prove their effectiveness either. LOL -Gary Eli Allen said the following on 8/25/2005 3:55 PM: > If the desired effect is decreased drug usage and making drugs harder > to get along with decreasing crime rela

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
e 30's? >>> >>> >>>> From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Reply-To: The Hardware List >>>> To: The Hardware List >>>> Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices >>>> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:24:10 -0500 >>>> >>

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2005-08-25 Thread Eli Allen
"The Hardware List" Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Your problem is you have failed to define working. If by working you mean are they acting as a deterrent, then they are working. If you are defining working as the complete eradication of drugs f

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2005-08-25 Thread Hayes Elkins
"In general, laws *punish* crime - they do not *prevent* crime." - GG Liddy From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:44:03 -0500 How many of those in jail for drugs are he

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2005-08-25 Thread Eli Allen
By the way most drugs were legal originally. You may want a small history lesson: http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html Eli - Original Message - Big difference, there was already a thriving legal business for alcohol prior to prohibition. So w

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2005-08-25 Thread Eli Allen
If the desired effect is decreased drug usage and making drugs harder to get along with decreasing crime related to the drug usage then I'd like to see your proof. Eli - Original Message - USA and Canada. -Gary Thane Sherrington said the following on 8/25/2005 2:48 PM: At 04:1

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2005-08-25 Thread Eli Allen
he whiskey running mafia filth of the 30's? From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:24:10 -0500 That is one of the most ludicrous arguments being tossed about by the legalizing drugs

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
How many of those in jail for drugs are helpless Grandma's and teenagers? Simple question, do the drug laws deter usage? What else are they supposed to do? I suppose we should eliminate laws against theft too since they would also fail your definition of success. -Gary j m g said the followi

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2005-08-25 Thread j m g
I don't think locking up grandma and idiot teenagers is the mark of a successful policy. On 8/25/05, Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course it is up to you to define successful? > > -Gary > > > > Thane Sherrington said the following on 8/25/2005 3:07 PM: > > > At 04:56 PM 25/08/

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2005-08-25 Thread Hayes Elkins
A staunch libertarian take on the WoD http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/topics.do?topic=war From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:04:34 -0500 Yes. -Gary Thane Sherrington sa

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
Of course it is up to you to define successful? -Gary Thane Sherrington said the following on 8/25/2005 3:07 PM: > At 04:56 PM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: > >> Your problem is you have failed to define working. If by working you >> mean are they acting as a deterrent, then they are worki

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
Yes. -Gary Thane Sherrington said the following on 8/25/2005 3:06 PM: > At 04:54 PM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: > >> USA and Canada. > > > So you feel we are winning the drug war? > > T

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2005-08-25 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 04:56 PM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: Your problem is you have failed to define working. If by working you mean are they acting as a deterrent, then they are working. If you are defining working as the complete eradication of drugs from society then you are creating nothing more than a c

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2005-08-25 Thread j m g
ance the good parts and the bad. > >>> > >>>Eli > >>> > >>>- Original Message - > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/7/ - Decriminalization > >>>>arguemen

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2005-08-25 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 04:54 PM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: USA and Canada. So you feel we are winning the drug war? T

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
Your problem is you have failed to define working. If by working you mean are they acting as a deterrent, then they are working. If you are defining working as the complete eradication of drugs from society then you are creating nothing more than a canard. -Gary Thane Sherrington said the fol

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
gt;>http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/7/ - Decriminalization >>>>arguement. Sounds pretty good to me... >>>> >>>>On 8/25/05, Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Free

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
USA and Canada. -Gary Thane Sherrington said the following on 8/25/2005 2:48 PM: > At 04:11 PM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: > >> Several. China is a lot better off now, isn't it? > > > I'm not sure. Haven't been there, but I've heard their economy is > doing alright. Plus China isn't re

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
Reply-To: The Hardware List >> To: The Hardware List >> Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices >> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:18:32 -0500 >> >> Big difference, without food and water you die. Without sex you become >> a nerd. LOL >> >> -Gary > > > Or

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2005-08-25 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 04:44 PM 25/08/2005, Hayes Elkins wrote: And that's one, not several. Please give me some concrete examples of harsh drug laws having the desired effect over the long term. Saudi Arabia - caught with drugs? Bye bye head. It's also a GREAT place to live. I think that proves my point. Har

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
the 30's? > > >> From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: The Hardware List >> To: The Hardware List >> Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices >> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:24:10 -0500 >> >> That is one of the most ludicrous arguments be

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2005-08-25 Thread Hayes Elkins
From: Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:48:53 -0300 At 04:11 PM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: Several. China is a lot better off now, isn't it? I'm not sure. Ha

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2005-08-25 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 04:37 PM 25/08/2005, j m g wrote: If I can walk into walgreens and there sitting right next to the marlboro's...they're not going to have a say in the matter. Yup. And that's why legalizing it works so well. The same for prostitution, btw. T

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2005-08-25 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 04:11 PM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: Several. China is a lot better off now, isn't it? I'm not sure. Haven't been there, but I've heard their economy is doing alright. Plus China isn't really a modern, civilized country, so it's hard to compare to the US or Canada. The Netherlands

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2005-08-25 Thread j m g
e - > > > >> http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/7/ - Decriminalization > >> arguement. Sounds pretty good to me... > >> > >> On 8/25/05, Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> Freed up space in prisons bett

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2005-08-25 Thread Hayes Elkins
What happened to moonshiners and the whiskey running mafia filth of the 30's? From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:24:10 -0500 That is one of the most ludicrous arguments b

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2005-08-25 Thread Veech
Are we at the 3-day rule yet for this topic? - Original Message - From: "Hayes Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List

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2005-08-25 Thread Hayes Elkins
From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:18:32 -0500 Big difference, without food and water you die. Without sex you become a nerd. LOL -Gary Or a buttfucking pedophile

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
ter/7/ - Decriminalization >> arguement. Sounds pretty good to me... >> >> On 8/25/05, Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Freed up space in prisons better suited to real criminals. >>> >>> >From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTEC

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
Wow, you really need to do some reading. -Gary Ben Ruset said the following on 8/25/2005 9:41 AM: >Freed up space in prisons better suited to real criminals. > > > >>From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Date: Thu Aug 25 09:31:48 CDT 2005 >>To: The H

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
Big difference, without food and water you die. Without sex you become a nerd. LOL -Gary Stan Zaske said the following on 8/25/2005 12:25 PM: > The time following puberty is the time period when a person is the > horniest in their lives! All part of God's plan to provide for our > reproducti

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
You are making a HUGE assumption, that being that enforcement doesn't do anything. Most believe that the enforcement is working the way it should. It is a deterrent and as such is doing its job. -Gary j m g said the following on 8/25/2005 11:45 AM: >But how many billions are spent on enforce

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
Several. China is a lot better off now, isn't it? -Gary Thane Sherrington said the following on 8/25/2005 9:40 AM: > At 11:31 AM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: > >> What happened in China when they legalized drugs? What about Needle >> park in Zurich? Can you cite one example where the le

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2005-08-25 Thread Hayes Elkins
From: "Gary VanderMolen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: "The Hardware List" Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:37:44 -0700 Do you want your taxes raised in order to pay for the repetitive medical treatment of those who abu

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2005-08-25 Thread Hayes Elkins
Curing cancer. From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:31:48 -0500 What happened in China when they legalized drugs? What about Needle park in Zurich? Can you cite one example whe

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary VanderMolen
So we should all just give in to our impulses and do what the hell we want? I was plenty horny by age 13, which doesn't mean I was emotionally ready, or financially capable of the consequences of a broken/slipped condom. Gary VanderMolen - Original Message - From: "Stan Zaske" <[EMAIL

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2005-08-25 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 01:29 PM 8/25/2005, 007 typed: I am not sure if Puberty is when people are the horniest. Perhaps it has to do with access, supply and demand. Medical fact that women don't mature sexually until their mid 30's while males it's 19-21 & at that age many females are trying to figure out how t

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2005-08-25 Thread Stan Zaske
ke Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:26 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices The time following puberty is the time period when a person is the horniest in their lives! All part of God's plan to provide for our reproduction. Deny a person food and see how warped their behavi

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2005-08-25 Thread 007
I am not sure if Puberty is when people are the horniest. Perhaps it has to do with access, supply and demand. 007. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:26 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H

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2005-08-25 Thread 007
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eli Allen Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:24 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices A few minor changes I'd make. First, I'm assuming the drugs are actually very cheap to make. So I say tax them very highly and they should still be ch

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2005-08-25 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 12:45 PM 8/25/2005, j m g typed: But how many billions are spent on enforcement that doesn't get anywhere. Why even bother busting kids with a cigarette's worth of pot? So he won't get the idea that it's ok & that to make any easy living he might start to sell it? At some point a foot mus

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2005-08-25 Thread Stan Zaske
The time following puberty is the time period when a person is the horniest in their lives! All part of God's plan to provide for our reproduction. Deny a person food and see how warped their behavior becomes. Take away someones water and all they'll think about is getting something to drink. T

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2005-08-25 Thread Stan Zaske
Dr. Phil's theme for the day happens to be drug and alcohol abuse and the effects on our loved ones. 3pm Central time. Thane Sherrington wrote: At 11:31 AM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: What happened in China when they legalized drugs? What about Needle park in Zurich? Can you cite one

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2005-08-25 Thread Stan Zaske
Agreed, but trying to stop the influx of drugs hasn't worked and the billions spent would be better utilized with a multi-decade public education blitz and rehab. In addition, more research $'s need to be spent on the mechanisms involved and better drugs to wean people off the harder stuff. The

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2005-08-25 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 11:42 AM 8/25/2005, Thane Sherrington typed: At 12:35 PM 25/08/2005, FORC5 wrote: not a good reason to make these products legal. same argument for giving kids condoms. a society needs standards to live by So better to keep using an idea that doesn't work can costs a fortune rather than t

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2005-08-25 Thread j m g
But how many billions are spent on enforcement that doesn't get anywhere. Why even bother busting kids with a cigarette's worth of pot? Your taxes are already going to the 'war on drugs' and that money isn't being wisely spent. On 8/25/05, Gary VanderMolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The bigg

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2005-08-25 Thread Gary VanderMolen
The biggest drug problem these days is ICE or crystal meth made from cold pills and second a bumper crop from our buddies in Afghanistan. Neither should be tolerated and those found using should be helped medically, not jailed. Do you want your taxes raised in order to pay for the repetitive m

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2005-08-25 Thread warpmedia
"Standards"? What the hell does that mean? We got freaks around the world that think we are criminals for not complying with their religious standards and want to KILL US for it. Some standards just don't make sense when examined, many are arbitrary.We should be giving kids (and 3rd world count

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2005-08-25 Thread Eli Allen
Decriminalization doesn't mean that society can't look at drug use as a bad thing. So I don't see how societies standards are weakening. In fact decriminalization could strengthen them, what happens to those who think drugs are bad but want prisons to be used for real criminals? It would all

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2005-08-25 Thread Al
Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 12:35 PM 25/08/2005, FORC5 wrote: > >not a good reason to make these products legal. same argument for giving > >kids condoms. > >a society needs standards to live by > > So better to keep using an idea that doesn't work can costs a fortune > r

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2005-08-25 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 12:35 PM 25/08/2005, FORC5 wrote: not a good reason to make these products legal. same argument for giving kids condoms. a society needs standards to live by So better to keep using an idea that doesn't work can costs a fortune rather than trying something else? Makes no sense to me. T

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2005-08-25 Thread FORC5
not a good reason to make these products legal. same argument for giving kids condoms. a society needs standards to live by for the live of me I can not figure out why someone would consume a product that they have NO FUCKING IDEA what kind of standards where used in manufacture. These same ppl p

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2005-08-25 Thread Eli Allen
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Freed up space in prisons better suited to real criminals. >From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu Aug 25 09:31:48 CDT 2005 >To: The Hardware List >Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices >What happened in China when they legalized drugs? What a

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2005-08-25 Thread j m g
: Thu Aug 25 09:31:48 CDT 2005 > >To: The Hardware List > >Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices > > >What happened in China when they legalized drugs? What about Needle > >park in Zurich? Can you cite one example where the legalization of > >drugs solved any social ills?

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2005-08-25 Thread Ben Ruset
Freed up space in prisons better suited to real criminals. >From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu Aug 25 09:31:48 CDT 2005 >To: The Hardware List >Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices >What happened in China when they legalized drugs? What about Needle >park in Z

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2005-08-25 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 11:31 AM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: What happened in China when they legalized drugs? What about Needle park in Zurich? Can you cite one example where the legalization of drugs solved any social ills? Can you name one example where making it illegal solved any social ills? All anti

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-25 Thread Gary Udstrand
What happened in China when they legalized drugs? What about Needle park in Zurich? Can you cite one example where the legalization of drugs solved any social ills? -Gary Stan Zaske said the following on 8/25/2005 3:04 AM: > BC Bud! Didn't you see the prime time report? They sell it in shops

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2005-08-25 Thread Stan Zaske
BC Bud! Didn't you see the prime time report? They sell it in shops on the streets using the best seeds from around the globe! Gotta love British Columbia! What hypocrisy that we still haven't learned "Prohibition" doesn't work even after all the organized crime that came as a result of "cri

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2005-08-24 Thread warpmedia
Well there sure is some dynamite hemp floating around somewhere these days! LOL Was just in Vancouver for 8 days and never got over to the little Amsterdam area to see what all the fuss was about. Of course there was the fear of the transaction in the back of my mind since that seems to be th

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2005-08-24 Thread FORC5
gt;>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset >>>Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:57 PM >>>To: The Hardware List >>>Subject: Re: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices >>> >>>I am all about Ethanol. Unfortunately in the US the corn farmers are >>>pushing

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2005-08-24 Thread Stan Zaske
dware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:57 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices I am all about Ethanol. Unfortunately in the US the corn farmers are pushing for it. Making Ethanol from Corn is the most inefficient way of doing it

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2005-08-23 Thread gibney
1:57 PM > To: The Hardware List > Subject: Re: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices > > I am all about Ethanol. Unfortunately in the US the corn farmers are > pushing for it. Making Ethanol from Corn is the most inefficient way of > doing it, and supposedly yeilds less energy than what was s

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2005-08-20 Thread Stan Zaske
The delay in coming on messed with my mind for a bit but you get used to it and I like the color of the light better. FORC5 wrote: tried those, hope u have better luck then me, mostly they didn't last and I got tired to the not instant on. I would like to invent a bathroom fan switch with a b

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2005-08-19 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 09:47 AM 8/19/2005, FORC5 typed: tried those, hope u have better luck then me, mostly they didn't last and I got tired to the not instant on. Ditto that & how about the poor saps that can't afford the initial capital outlay? I would like to invent a bathroom fan switch with a built in tim

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2005-08-19 Thread FORC5
tried those, hope u have better luck then me, mostly they didn't last and I got tired to the not instant on. I would like to invent a bathroom fan switch with a built in timer of only a couple of minutes, on and off in a couple of minutes instead of sucking all the cooling/heating out of the hou

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