Re: [drlvm] HARMONY-1635 heap iteration WAS: [general] version of GCC...

2006-11-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Salikh Zakirov wrote: Gregory Shimansky wrote: I think you could use 4.1.0 in Fedora Core 5. Since patch level shouldn't really affect the C++ compilation restrictions, the same patch should break on 4.1.0 as well. Gregory, I've looked at harmony-1635.patch you've uploaded to HARMONY-1635,

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - out of the abstractness came forth concreteness

2006-11-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Tim Ellison wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: As fun as this discussion is, it's all theoretical. There's no harm in a bit of fun :-) So how about we create a sandbox in SVN and copy over a few types to mark-up while Etienne is developing the processor, and we can all watch that evolve

Re: [drlvm] more self-dependent VM tasks, newbies welcome

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Put them in as JIRAs Alexey Varlamov wrote: Below is a list of isolated development tasks which do not require advanced knowledge of VM and could be a nice start for newbies to get acquainted with the code. All items are targeted for better code sharing. 1) Eliminate duplicate implementation

Re: [doc]Please help to remove outdated info from the site

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Nice - buy why not put the tasks in JIRA? Morozova, Nadezhda wrote: Thanks all who helped with the what can we do now page - the new page is shorter but none the less useful. My suggestion is to add more links to the page. It now only links to the applist. More candidates: classlib status page

Re: [classlib] Really trivial comment about exception messages

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I love working with the English. What is the colour of the 'zed' before the fullstop? Mark Hindess wrote: While checking and applying some of Ilya's patches for internationalisation, I noticed that there were quite a few messages that end with a fullstop. Aside from the inconsistency (which

Re: svn commit: r470310 - in /incubator/harmony/standard/site: README.txt docs/contributors.html xdocs/contributors.xml

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Any chance you give your magic commit powers another spin and put the committer list in alphabetical order, by last name (a - zed) :) geir Oliver Deakin wrote: Apologies for the lack of commit message - in the excitement of adding myself to the list of committers I clicked ok a little too

Re: [drlvm] more self-dependent VM tasks, newbies welcome

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Alexey Varlamov wrote: 2006/11/2, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Put them in as JIRAs Done: HARMONY-2051, 2052, 2053. Thanks - that just makes it easy for people to grab them and get going... Alexey Varlamov wrote: Below is a list of isolated development tasks which do

[general] Transition to TLP

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I was going to start organizing the infrastructure transition to TLP. On the list are : 1) website goes to http://harmony.apache.org/; 2) mail lists become [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. This will be transparent - we'll move subscribers over, and I suppose we forward @incubator traffic to

Re: [classlib][portlib] Docs?

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Paulex Yang wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Paulex Yang wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: yeah - someone generate, and we can hang them on the website. I'm not sure we'd want to check them in though... Is it possible to add documents into website but not to commit them in SVN? Yep. I

Re: [general] Transition to TLP

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Alexey Petrenko wrote: 2006/11/2, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was going to start organizing the infrastructure transition to TLP. On the list are : 1) website goes to http://harmony.apache.org/; 2) mail lists become And harmony-commits will become [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course

Re: [drlvm][jvmti][testing] I want to add JVMTI tests to drlvm commit checks

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Salikh Zakirov wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Why not use junit? Junit task in implicitly assumes that you can run all tests in single JVM instance. Though it does provide fork-mode to run tests in separate JVM processes, it still does not allow per-test JVM args configuration. Which

Re: [classlib][swing] compatibility: j.s.text.GapContent.replace() behaviour

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Why not? Ivanov, Alexey A wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexey Petrenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:50 PM To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [classlib][swing] compatibility: j.s.text.GapContent.replace() behaviour HARMONY-1975is

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - CHECKPOINT

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
, *Geir Magnusson Jr.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we all agree that it's not an ideal solution. Can anyone think of anything else? No one said this was going to be easy... geir -- Sian January IBM Java Technology Centre, UK

Re: [drlvm][jvmti][testing] I want to add JVMTI tests to drlvm commit checks

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Gregory Shimansky wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Why not use junit? If you mean why not use junit to loop over tests, then it is not the case. I've used junit to do this in my work. The loop which I wrote here is the loop over components in the build.xml of drlvm. If you run build

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - CHECKPOINT

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
on Java 6 (as we're going to do it at some point) and work from there. geir Thanks, Sian On 02/11/06, *Geir Magnusson Jr.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sian January wrote: I may be totally off track here, but how about just having two copies of all

Re: [drlvm] more self-dependent VM tasks, newbies welcome

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
: On the 0x215 day of Apache Harmony Geir Magnusson, Jr. wrote: Alexey Varlamov wrote: 2006/11/2, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Put them in as JIRAs Done: HARMONY-2051, 2052, 2053. Thanks - that just makes it easy for people to grab them and get going... maybe, put the list of JIRAs on wiki

Re: [drlvm][jvmti][testing] I want to add JVMTI tests to drlvm commit checks

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
name=test depends=test_loop, test.jvmti / :) geir Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Gregory Shimansky wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Why not use junit? If you mean why not use junit to loop over tests, then it is not the case. I've used junit to do this in my work. The loop which I wrote

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - CHECKPOINT

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Sian January wrote: On 02/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sian January wrote: I believe that in CVS when you make a branch there's nothing in it to begin with, so if you check out code from the branch it looks the same as code in head. Then if a change is made

Re: [general] Transition to TLP

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Tim Ellison wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I was going to start organizing the infrastructure transition to TLP. On the list are : [SNIP] I agree that we are still drawing value from all talking on the same channel, so let's keep it that way for now. I can't think of any other infra

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - CHECKPOINT

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Etienne Gagnon wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: [...] See, I'm hoping for something a tad different : 1) For building : process() (and revert() for fun) for cmd line use for the build scripts, so we just do ... 2) For development : IDE plugin where a) I can tell plugin that my

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - CHECKPOINT

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Etienne Gagnon wrote: [SNIP] Such changes are usually not dealt with very neatly with svn merge. I'm confused. I don't think anyone has suggested that we use svn merge for this. Now, if using the processign tool, you get at least 2 benefits over svn merge: 1- No need to do any svn

Re: [drlvm][jvmti][testing] I want to add JVMTI tests to drlvm commit checks

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Gregory Shimansky wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Gregory Shimansky wrote: Geir I actually was serious. Probably you were confused, I didn't write build test, I wrote build smoke.test. The first one works ok, the second doesn't. It happens because test (top-level test target

Re: [drlvm] Is it time to say goodbye to dear friend GC v4?

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
to it. -- Ivan On 11/2/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any reason to keep this around in the main branch?

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - CHECKPOINT

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Etienne Gagnon wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: The communication aspect of 2 can be quite helpful when doing system-wide changes. Just think about the effect of simply doing a system-wide reindentation of source code; this is a nightmare when developing using branches, as diff/merge tools

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - CHECKPOINT

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
BTW, I'm more than happy if you just do a quick sketch of what you're thinking, and we resume the convo from there. I just wanted to clear up some confusion I had. geir Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Etienne Gagnon wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: The communication aspect of 2 can be quite

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - CHECKPOINT

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
. It will be fun to play with. geir Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Tim Ellison wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Etienne Gagnon wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: The communication aspect of 2 can be quite helpful when doing system-wide changes. Just think about the effect of simply doing a system-wide

[general] version of GCC...

2006-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
did we ever bottom out on what range of GCC we'll support? I have a patch I want to commit that is known to not compile under 4.1.1... geir

Re: [classlib]Harmony passes 100% testcases of Tomcat5.5

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Nice! Post it on the wiki? Leo Li wrote: Hi, all: Harmony now has been able to pass 100% testcases on Tomcat5.5. I ran them both on WindowsXP and Unbuntu, with J9 VM and drlvm. The detailed information about how to build and run tests have been put on

Re: [general] Motorola to develop ME under ALv2

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
This is about Motorola and their efforts in the ME ecosystem. The Apache style of open governance has shown itself to be very successful in creating good software, although there are other models that are successful as well (Eclipse Foundation, MySQL). So seeing Motorola embrace that, as

Re: [drlvm] How to debug the drlvm with gdb?

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Mikhail Fursov wrote: Thanks Rana! If you ask me what would I like, the answer is quite simple: as a windows developer primary (today) I would recommend to other windows developers to use msvc build (with patch from HARMONY-1990http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-1990 ). With this

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - CHECKPOINT

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Tim Ellison wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Nathan Beyer wrote: What's the concern about just using the prescribed branching pattern for SVN? There are some other nice tricks like externals for pulling in common files into the working copies of other branches (ala the 'concurrent' code

Re: [drlvm][iprof] Using Profiling Utility (iprof)

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Is this tuff documented? Wanna throw it in the wiki or a patch for the site? Egor Pasko wrote: On the 0x214 day of Apache Harmony Mikhail Fursov wrote: + Some usage hints: 1. You can get any stylesheet editor (like Excel), open iprof data and build graphs from the colums - and you will have

Re: [DRLVM][PORT] correct API to retrieve processor number

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Xiao-Feng Li wrote: Hi, I am using port_CPUs_number() for GCv5 to get the processor number, but my desktop returns one processor with it on Windows although my processor is dual-core. (port_CPUs_number is defined in port_sysinfo.h). I think we need more general form of processor number

Re: [classlib]Harmony passes 100% testcases of Tomcat5.5

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Great! Does anything link to that page? IOW, if I started at the top, could I find the page using some reasonable path to get there? geir Leo Li wrote: Yes, I have posted it on http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/Apache_Tomcat.:) On 11/1/06, *Geir Magnusson Jr.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto

Re: [general] Motorola to develop ME under ALv2

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: This is about Motorola and their efforts in the ME ecosystem. The Apache style of open governance has shown itself to be very successful in creating good software, although there are other models that are successful as well (Eclipse Foundation, MySQL). So seeing

Re: 235 tests are missed at DRLVM test run for Windows

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Anton Luht wrote: Alexei, 2. If I suggested an enhancement, this would be an addition of a test name filter for comparison results. I mean that if I'm interested in Bidi tests comparison, I put Bidi into form field (name=Bidi) and see a comparison for the tests which names contain the

Re: [classlib][portlib] Docs?

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
yeah - someone generate, and we can hang them on the website. I'm not sure we'd want to check them in though... I've done this before for API docs... geir Alexey Petrenko wrote: Having these docs on website will be really good! SY, Alexey 2006/11/1, Paulex Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you

Re: [DRLVM] ipf initial support (interpreter mode)

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
yay! Ivan Volosyuk wrote: Hi All, DRLVM now builds and run (interpreter mode) on IPF with HARMONY-2004. The patch should cause no changes on other architectures. Currently, in interpreter mode everything works fine but GC. GC fails. I'm investigating this issue.

[drlvm] Is it time to say goodbye to dear friend GC v4?

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Is there any reason to keep this around in the main branch? geir

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - CHECKPOINT

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Etienne Gagnon wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: There's caching too, I think. LogCache4J What I meant was that it didn't seem like we came to a conclusion on it - that if we had a general pre-processing solution, we could use that too for logging, rather than have two. The actual use-cases

Re: [classlib]Harmony passes 100% testcases of Tomcat5.5

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Yah, that was my point. Glad to know it was already there. geir Paulex Yang wrote: Tim Ellison wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Great! Does anything link to that page? IOW, if I started at the top, could I find the page using some reasonable path to get there? Front Page

Re: [doc] EM minor typos are corrected

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
done Konovalova, Svetlana wrote: Folks, Some minor typos were discovered in the Execution Manager Component Description. In cooperation with Mikhail Fursov we've created a couple of necessary patches [http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-2036]. Would be great, if someone can find a

Re: [classlib][portlib] Docs?

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Paulex Yang wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: yeah - someone generate, and we can hang them on the website. I'm not sure we'd want to check them in though... Is it possible to add documents into website but not to commit them in SVN? Yep. I was thinking the same for the Doxygen docs

Re: [general] Re: svn commit: r469512 - in /incubator/harmony/standard/site: docs/contributors.html xdocs/contributors.xml

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
that's because you haven't been added to the svn perms. I'll do that in a bit... Gregory Shimansky wrote: On Tuesday 31 October 2006 18:28 Tim Ellison wrote: Hurray! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: apetrenko Date: Tue Oct 31 06:57:44 2006 New Revision: 469512 URL:

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - CHECKPOINT

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
done. -Nathan [1] http://antenna.sourceforge.net/#preprocess [2] http://www.netbeans.org/kb/50/quickstart-mobility.html On 11/1/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Etienne Gagnon wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: There's caching too, I think. LogCache4J What I meant

Re: [general] Re: svn commit: r469512 - in /incubator/harmony/standard/site: docs/contributors.html xdocs/contributors.xml

2006-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
added perms for gregory, oliver, richard and alexei for svn and jira Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: that's because you haven't been added to the svn perms. I'll do that in a bit... Gregory Shimansky wrote: On Tuesday 31 October 2006 18:28 Tim Ellison wrote: Hurray! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Tim Ellison wrote: Mikhail Fursov wrote: What are the reasons to exclude the most standard solution here: branching. Do you think we need a lot of them? I don't think we are excluding any option for maintaining similar code streams (5.0 6.0, SE ME, etc.) it's just a discussion at the

Re: [general] creation of jdktools

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
, Mark Hindess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 October 2006 at 18:38, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ilya Neverov wrote: Hello, I want to gather opinions about structure of the jdktools component. I'm going to create scripts for moving tools' sources from classlib

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
-Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:28 PM To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [classlib] Preprocessor Tim Ellison wrote: Mikhail Fursov wrote: What are the reasons to exclude the most standard solution

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor (was Re: [classlib][rmi] Code smell - Thread.sleep() in ActivationGroup method)

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Mikhail Fursov wrote: Geir, What are the reasons to exclude the most standard solution here: branching. Do you think we need a lot of them? Because I'm not sure how you can easily maintain fixes and general coherence across branches. Also, there are 3 use cases for pre-processor, and it

Re: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Konovalova, Svetlana wrote: Nadya, AFAIU the given page is purely classlib-oriented...though I might be wrong here. It provides info on how to set up Eclipse to develop Java code in Harmony and IMHO doesn't include any tips applying to harmony code in general. I absolutely agree with you

Re: [doc][drlvm] new docs added - JIT compiler

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
oh, thankyou thankyou thankyou Morozova, Nadezhda wrote: Yeah! No problem, I was just thinking a zip would not look as transparent and safe. I'd turn the images from the other doc issue into an archive as well. Thank you, Nadya Morozova -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor (was Re: [classlib][rmi] Code smell - Thread.sleep() in ActivationGroup method)

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Mikhail Fursov wrote: On 10/31/06, *Geir Magnusson Jr.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that if we could get 5.0 complete, we'd could *then* branch for 6, but I don't think we'd want to serialize like that. I understand the dilemma. If we agree to have

Re: [general] creation of jdktools

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
or ant.scripts also sound not so bad. Why not to choose the less confusing name? (I believe you meant make or make.platform) What projects? Java projects? With best regards, 2006/10/31, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why? I'm really curious about this. We build the project, using

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Tim Ellison wrote: Mikhail Fursov wrote: Yes, the main reason I love Java is a power of tools! If you force me to work in notepad instead of IDEA with the only reason that we need a preprocessor I will have a doubt if the solution is reasonable. Agreed. And that is a reason why it makes

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Mikhail Fursov wrote: On 10/31/06, Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can have pointcuts on a whole number of events, including method invocations but also exception handling, field assignments and accesses, etc. But you can only add behavior, you cannot subtract from the original

Re: [general] creation of jdktools

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
, generated docs and etc. Regards, 2006/10/31, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alexei Zakharov wrote: Take me for example. I will be most likely misleaded with build since the majority of projects I've seen in my life were using build or build.platform for storing build artifacts (as Mark

Re: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
/documentation.html]. What do you say? If you do not mind, I can try to update the doc. Best regards, Svetlana -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 2:18 PM To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [build

Re: [general] creation of jdktools

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
'build' is more ambiguous. Currently we have build system with many 'make/' dirs so it probably bettre to postpone the move to new name to some moment of restructuring the whole build system. I think today it's better to keep consistency. Thanks -Ilya On 10/31/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Tim Ellison wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Tim Ellison wrote: Mikhail Fursov wrote: Yes, the main reason I love Java is a power of tools! If you force me to work in notepad instead of IDEA with the only reason that we need a preprocessor I will have a doubt if the solution is reasonable

Re: [admin] ICLA / ACQ (Was: [drlvm][sablevm] Desing of Class Unloading Support)

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
ICLA should be faxed to the number on the document ASQ can be sent scanned Etienne Gagnon wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: However, it would be great if you had an ICLA and ACQ on file to save you the trouble of typing this in the future :) Better living through paperwork! OK; I should

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Tim Ellison wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Tim Ellison wrote: Right, but you (Mr Harmony developer) don't modify the 'processed code', you work in the 'code w/ preprocessor statements', so you probably want the code you are modifying to be real, compilable Java code too. Agreed, but I

Re: 235 tests are missed at DRLVM test run for Windows

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Tim Ellison wrote: Fedotov, Alexei A wrote: 4. I vote for one of the following renamings: a) Rename ibm tag to j9 b) Rename drl tag to intel :-). That looks like a strange suggestion to me. I think the tags are fine as they are. What is you thinking? Indeed... DRL is Apache

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - CHECKPOINT

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
that the logging problems have been resolved w/ aspects yet...) geir -Nathan On 10/31/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we all agree that it's not an ideal solution. Can anyone think of anything else? No one said this was going to be easy... geir

Re: [general] creation of jdktools

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Nathan Beyer wrote: On 10/31/06, Mark Hindess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31 October 2006 at 7:24, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexei Zakharov wrote: Take me for example. I will be most likely misleaded with build since the majority of projects I've seen in my life

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor (was Re: [classlib][rmi] Code smell - Thread.sleep() in ActivationGroup method)

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
code. The point here is to find a harmless way of letting people do it if they want to for classlib development ... geir -Nathan On 10/31/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mikhail Fursov wrote: On 10/31/06, *Geir Magnusson Jr.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - CHECKPOINT

2006-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Etienne Gagnon wrote: Tim Ellison wrote: IMO it's not ideal that the preprocessed source still contains all the streams, albeit in comments. It wouldn't make the source very 'consumable' to the Mrs. SE or ME developer. Hmmm... It's always possible to have a special output mode that puts

Re: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI

2006-10-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Sian January wrote: I'm actually not sure if that first page is up to date or not ( http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/dev_eclipse.html). I think it should be but I have not ever been able to get it to work myself. Can anyone else confirm whether it is still in

Re: [general][snapshot] Windows installer

2006-10-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
cool! Tim Ellison wrote: I thought it would be fun to see what a Windows installer would look like for Harmony. So this morning, just for kicks, I was playing with NSIS (http://nsis.sourceforge.net/) and produced a prototype installer very easily (kudos to them). I'll put the source for it

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor (was Re: [classlib][rmi] Code smell - Thread.sleep() in ActivationGroup method)

2006-10-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
] Code smell - Thread.sleep() in ActivationGroup method) On 10/29/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) The Logging Debate That Won't Die - we don't want to encumber our production code with logging or even with runtime enablement checks for logging i.e

Re: [drlvm][em] Value-profiling implementation is avaible.

2006-10-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
can one of you JIT nerds describe for us non-JIT-nerds what value profiling is? :) geir Yuri Kashnikoff wrote: Hi! I'am working on value-profiling implementation. Implementation in EM is alredy avaible. Now I'am trying to implement and use it in JIT. I can answer any questions about current

Re: [DRLVM][GC] parallel compaction and wasted virtual space

2006-10-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Are IBM's and Sun's are know to work well for production loads? Xiao-Feng Li wrote: Weldon, the problem is, there is no well-established parallel compaction algorithms. So far the best known work are 1. SUN's work; 2. IBM's work and 3. Compressor. No one knows which one is the best for

Re: [drlvm][jvmti][testing] I want to add JVMTI tests to drlvm commit checks

2006-10-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Gregory Shimansky wrote: Hello JVMTI implementation is quite a big piece of drlvm code which doesn't have any tests that are ran regularly. This may create regressions in JVMTI implementation which won't be caught early. So I want to add several small tests for JVMTI which would cover most

Re: [classlib][luni] signalis interruptus in hysock

2006-10-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
. I don't understand this - what do you see as the real problem? Interruption from select due to signals is a fact of life under linux. geir With best regards, Alexei Fedotov, Intel Java XML Engineering -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: [general] creation of jdktools

2006-10-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
there will be a home for the JDWP code, which has beed voted but still resides in JIRA. Working with SVN will be easier. Thanks. -Ilya On 10/4/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep, that's the plan. And once we have that, we can simplify the launcher as well... Tim Ellison wrote: +1

Re: [drlvm][jvmti][testing] I want to add JVMTI tests to drlvm commit checks

2006-10-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Gregory Shimansky wrote: On Tuesday 31 October 2006 00:24 Fedotov, Alexei A wrote: Gregory wrote, I need is probably smoke tests category. I need to add building native code part and add a custom command line setting somewhere. +1 I believe you need one or two test with a good coverage

Re: [drlvm][jvmti][testing] I want to add JVMTI tests to drlvm commit checks

2006-10-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Gregory Shimansky wrote: On Tuesday 31 October 2006 02:27 Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: So I should either create a new 4th category for tests with custom build file, or extend one of the current categories which we have. The most close to what I need is probably smoke tests category. I need

Re: [doc][drlvm] new docs added - JIT compiler

2006-10-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
is there any chance you could put a zip of the images into the jira, rather than a dozen or so images? That's actually what turned me off from one of the other doc issues - I said to myself oh, heck, I don't want to download each of those separate thingies... I just want a zip or tgz of

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor (was Re: [classlib][rmi] Code smell - Thread.sleep() in ActivationGroup method)

2006-10-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Tim Ellison wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Alexei Zakharov wrote: At the same time I don't feel completely comfortable with the idea of using preprocessor to separate J2SE sources from J2ME. I'm not overjoyed either, but I can't think of many ways that allow fairly clear readability

Re: [drlvm][em] Value-profiling implementation is avaible.

2006-10-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Tim Ellison wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: can one of you JIT nerds describe for us non-JIT-nerds what value profiling is? :) Maybe calling people nerds was a disincentive ;-) I hope not - it's a compliment. :) Value profiling means watching the actual values of variables

Re: [general] sun ceo annouced open source java time frame at Oracle OpenWorld conference

2006-10-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Alex Blewitt wrote: On 28/10/06, Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a hoot -- it now seems to have mutated into all of SE being available by Christmas :-) Ho ho ho. Not gonna happen... geir Alex.

[classlib] Preprocessor (was Re: [classlib][rmi] Code smell - Thread.sleep() in ActivationGroup method)

2006-10-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Can we discuss using a preprocessor? We have a couple of good reasons to consider it : 1) The Logging Debate That Won't Die - we don't want to encumber our production code with logging or even with runtime enablement checks for logging i.e. if (logging.isDebugEnabled()) but it's

Re: [general][snapshot] Are we ready to roll a new developer release?

2006-10-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
r468731 Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Tim Ellison wrote: Any blocking issues? otherwise I suggest we roll a new snapshot this weekend. It has been a while. Sure - I've been meaning to do this for a while. I was just looking over what was left to put in DRLVM-wise. I realize that Mark

[app] jEdit on Harmony, take II

2006-10-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Alexey had a thread on this about 2 weeks ago. The patches he mentioned have been applied. When doing app testing with the latest snapshot, jEdit 4.3 pre6, I was happy to see the installer complete (still missing html support, I guess) But when I tried to run on WinXP, I got : java -jar

Re: [app] jEdit on Harmony, take II

2006-10-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Alexey Petrenko wrote: Geir, I've just returned from Egypt. Red sea is warm and fishes are amazing! :) I'll check this tomorrow. BTW I've used stable build... What is a stable build? SY, Alexey 2006/10/29, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alexey had a thread on this about 2

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor (was Re: [classlib][rmi] Code smell - Thread.sleep() in ActivationGroup method)

2006-10-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Mikhail Fursov wrote: On 10/29/06, *Geir Magnusson Jr.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) The Logging Debate That Won't Die - we don't want to encumber our production code with logging or even with runtime enablement checks for logging i.e

Re: [app] jEdit on Harmony, take II

2006-10-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
oh! LOL I thought you meant some stable version of Harmony :) Thanks Alexey Petrenko wrote: http://jedit.org/index.php?page=download There are two versions: development and stable. 2006/10/29, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alexey Petrenko wrote: Geir, I've just returned from

Re: [general][snapshot] Are we ready to roll a new developer release?

2006-10-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
doh! (fixed) Tim Ellison wrote: permissions! Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: r468731 Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Tim Ellison wrote: Any blocking issues? otherwise I suggest we roll a new snapshot this weekend. It has been a while. Sure - I've been meaning to do this for a while. I was just

Re: [general][snapshot] Comments

2006-10-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
and a bunch of SwingSet demos. Good stuff. Where do you get the demos? I think it would be nice to have our own set of demos in the JDK geir Regards, Tim Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: doh! (fixed) Tim Ellison wrote: permissions! Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: r468731 Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: [general] DOAP file project descriptor

2006-10-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Thanks! Nathan Beyer wrote: I've committed an initial DOAP file for the Harmony project in SVN [1]. The DOAP file is for the Apache Projects site [2], check out the site for more information. The file is loaded via HTTP from any URL, so any updates made to the file in SVN will be directly

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor (was Re: [classlib][rmi] Code smell - Thread.sleep() in ActivationGroup method)

2006-10-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Chris Gray wrote: On Sunday 29 October 2006 14:04, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: [...] 3) Java ME - We've had some interest (Chris?) in looking at using the Harmony classlib for ME, which can also have some differences that might be most conveniently kept in place in the main codebase. Yes, I'm

Re: [classlib][concurrent] ASF block comments?

2006-10-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
there was a tag in doug's CVS for the version that was put into java 1.5 from sun? geir I'll have to look into what I changed in the test file, if that's needed. ack. Regards, Tim On 10/27/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please do. All,as Tim said, we don't do mods to j.u.c geir

Re: [general] sun ceo annouced open source java time frame at Oracle OpenWorld conference

2006-10-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
understanding is javac, hotspot, and ME class libraries by end-2006, and SE class libraries (modulo some encumbered parts) in 2007. Regards, Tim Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Well, they announced the time frame last august, saying that they'd have javac and hotspot out by the end of 2006. Now, maybe

Re: ant fetch-depends while building DRLVM got error

2006-10-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
There was a problem with the repo restore, so things are current only up to end of august :( I've asked yoko to either do a new release or put a copy back (we'd want them to do that). I've put a copy of my depends/jars/yoko-m1 directory on

Re: [classlib][concurrent] ASF block comments?

2006-10-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Please do. All,as Tim said, we don't do mods to j.u.c geir Tim Ellison wrote: Why do two files in standard concurrent code have the standard ASF comment blocks? modules/concurrent/standard/src/main/java/java/util/concurrent/ConcurrentHashMap.java

Re: [general]97.63% unit tests of Axis passed on Harmony+IBMVM

2006-10-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Nice. And how about with DRLVM? :) Tony Wu wrote: sure, coming soon On 10/27/06, Paulex Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Wu wrote: Hi all, I tried to run the unit tests of apache axis on harmony+IBMVM and got this result[1]. It looks not bad. I will update the detail on wiki.

Re: [jira] 'Patch available' status

2006-10-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
to be committed or what? Thanks, Pavel On 10/27/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is with almost as much joy as being able to report TLP that I report that patch available now works. First, all thanks to David Belvins. I had been able to set the patch available field in the default

Re: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI

2006-10-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Konovalova, Svetlana wrote: Folks, I see that we do need one more building doc describing Eclipse specifics. The main doc containing building instructions now is the Getting Started for Contributors page. [http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/quickhelp_contributors.html]. My suggestion is

Re: [drlvm][jit] Internal testing framework for Jitrino.OPT compiler

2006-10-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
While you're at it, I'd like to get this patches in, but we probably need a new target for building, as running normally with this framework compiled in leads to problems. Can we find a way to make it a different build target, or at least a flag -Dwith.jitrino.test.framework or something?

Re: Running ActiveMQ under Harmony!

2006-10-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
To whom did Hiram send this? Gregory Shimansky wrote: Hiram Chirino wrote: Hey, Just wanted to let you guys know that I tried running ActiveMQ using the Harmony JVM and here are the results: Harmon: latest from tonight Platform: Linux SUSE 10 ActiveMQ: 4.0.2 RC6 Using default config it

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