AUTO: Jocelyn Blais is out of the office/ Jocelyn Blais n'est pas disponible. (returning 27/06/2011)

2011-06-24 Thread Jocelyn Blais
I am out of the office until 27/06/2011. Bonjour, Je serai absent du bureau en vacance jusqu'au 27 juin 2011. Pour toute urgence veuillez contacter votre representant logiciel. Pour des questions techniques vous pouvez communiquer avec Paul Hall at 905-316-6542 ou par courriel

RSU and bucket tape

2011-06-24 Thread Willimann, Alan (NIH/CIT) [C]
Can I do a run service on the RSU and run service on the bucket tape and do 1 PUT2PROD? Or Do I need to do a PUT2PROD after the run service on the RSU and another PUT2PROD after the run service on the bucket tape? Running z/VM 5.4. Alan Willimann Center for Information Technology National

Re: Moving on

2011-06-24 Thread David L. Craig
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: After 48 years in the industry, involved with VM for the last 38 of them, I will be retiring early next month. I don't think it is possible to find a better group of people than the VM List. The professionalism, the

Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-24 Thread Bill Munson
Kent, The last one was in 1998 at Marist College http://www2.marist.edu/~workshop/ There are no Dorm rooms this time, but the $69.00 on Campus hotel room is a good price. by the way I requested a 3XL Polo Shirt for myself, so you have today to put in your order by registering Bill Tabasco

Re: RSU and bucket tape

2011-06-24 Thread Bill Munson
Alan, It would be best to run SERVICE as many times as you have RSU and COR tapes, then run one PUT2PROD. If you run PUT2PROD more than once you take the chance of losing your last resort backup on CF3 of your before service CP Module. If you can it also would be best to IPL from CF2 to test

Re: RSU and bucket tape

2011-06-24 Thread Tom Paul
Alan, To my best of knowledge and my experience, each time you do the PUT2PROD, it over writes what's in place. So, if your intention is have multiple Service and then do a put2prod, it's okay. But, I recommend, doing a service and then do put2prod each time - of course, depending on the

Re: RSU and bucket tape

2011-06-24 Thread Tom Paul
Correction - RSU is cumulative - so the latest one would cover all the previous, unless you are doing PTFS. Sorry for the mistake. Regards, Tom From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Willimann, Alan (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 6:32

Skinny on the VM Workshop

2011-06-24 Thread Len Diegel
It's great to see the VM Workshop is connecting some folks that haven't seen or heard from each other in a while. That's how this got started. It was a handful of people kicking around the idea over a couple drinks. (how else?) The idea to re-launch came up about 12 months ago and it

Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-24 Thread Len Diegel
There will be rooms on campus for $69. We checked on using the dorms and were pointed to these. Varsity Inn North ($69) Varsity Inn South ($69) 614-267-4646 Office In a message dated 6/23/2011 6:44:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, william.mun...@bbh.com writes: I think the

Re: Moving on

2011-06-24 Thread Mark Wheeler
Good luck Richard, and thanks for the many, many times you've helped me and others in the Community over the years. Mark Wheeler UnitedHealth Group -- Excellence. Always. If Not Excellence, What? If Not Excellence Now, When? Tom Peters, author of The Little BIG Things Date: Wed, 22

Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-24 Thread Michael Harding
Well my first was at Asilomar in 86 (I think) or 87. I remember Rich's being there, but not you; though I do recall you from others. -- Mike Harding z/VM System Support mhard...@us.ibm.com mike.b.hard...@kp.org mikehard...@mindless.com (925) 926-3179 (w) (925) 323-2070 (c) IM: VMBearDad (AIM),

Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Walter
The 1986 VM Workshop was at U of Kentucky (the only one I attended). 1987 was at Brigham Young. Wasn't the Asilomar workshop dedicated to REXX? BTW... Mongo's geezer (I resemble that remark!) comment just caused me to register for the 2011 VM Workshop at Ohio State. The company won't pay for

Re: VM Workshop

2011-06-24 Thread Bill Munson
a few of us from the NYC area are planning on going to the VM Workshop on our own dime and we are planning to CarPool as well. I have already registered as well - I am older than most, but younger than some of you. munson 201-418-7588 From: Mike Walter mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com To:

Re: VM Workshop

2011-06-24 Thread Len Diegel
bill, we can check ids at the door. :-) In a message dated 6/24/2011 10:56:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time, william.mun...@bbh.com writes: a few of us from the NYC area are planning on going to the VM Workshop on our own dime and we are planning to CarPool as well. I have already

Re: Question on SHUTDOWNTIME

2011-06-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 06/23/2011 at 07:06 EDT, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: The default is 30 seconds (Q SHUTDOWNTIME) for the CP's portion of the shutdown process. I recall hearing that is good default. We are seeing systems exceed that - 33 seconds in this one that seemed

Re: RMSMASTR and shutdowns

2011-06-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 06/23/2011 at 05:12 EDT, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: Out of the box, RMSMASTR behaves very badly on a signal shutdown of your VM system. We have to use this to mount tapes in the VTS. RMSMASTR has files in VMSYSU: and VMSYS:, which both use signal

Re: RMSMASTR and shutdowns

2011-06-24 Thread David Boyes
Does anyone else think this should be considered a defect? I do! I do! Sadly, that doesn't mean much. Me too. No program product should be permitted to interfere with a clean shutdown of the system as a whole. As pointed out by Kris on prior occasions, you can use UCOMDIR NAMES to

Re: RMSMASTR and shutdowns

2011-06-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 06/24/2011 at 03:48 EDT, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: As pointed out by Kris on prior occasions, you can use UCOMDIR NAMES to redirect RMSMASTER to another server. Ugh. What a hack. Works, but ... ick. Hack?!? That's what UCOMDIR/SCOMDIR were designed for and why

Re: RMSMASTR and shutdowns

2011-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
Bleah.. and Yuck. NO NO NO. What's the point of putting 1 file in a SFS if you can't share it anyway??? Put it on a minidisk. 1 cyl is fine. And maybe when I have SSI , I can actually share it. It's 7 4k blocks of config data. Maybe IBM was trying to save me the other 96% of a cylinder by

Re: RMSMASTR and shutdowns

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Walter
YES YES YES. (Yes in that I agree with Marcy). When I installed RMSMASTR I was concerned about what might happen to my config statements when the next z/VM release, or even maintenance, rolled around. Would IBM alter the config file because an RMS developer wanted to include a new feature

Re: RMSMASTR and shutdowns

2011-06-24 Thread Alain Benvéniste
Because my same VM can run on different CPU I created five MACLIBs where the filename is the CPUID : 12342097 MACLIB. Each time I xautolog RMSMASTR the profile exec extracts the files related to the correponding CPU. That way my source files are secured in to my maclibs. I did that for TCPIP,

Re: RMSMASTR and shutdowns

2011-06-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 06/24/2011 at 04:31 EDT, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: Bleah.. and Yuck. NO NO NO. What's the point of putting 1 file in a SFS if you can't share it anyway??? Put it on a minidisk. 1 cyl is fine. And maybe when I have SSI , I can actually share it.

Re: Question on SHUTDOWNTIME

2011-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
No z/OS vols here. They aren't even on that same box anymore let alone genned for VM lpars to get at them. Good security practice I believe ;) So there's not anything I can offline that isn't already. We could lump various VM systems together, but then the performance guys will get mad

Re: RMSMASTR and shutdowns

2011-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
You can. I guess that is an advantage... very minimally though. Authorization to mount comes out of our tape product and its ESM rather than the config file so it changes very, very rarely (wait, shouldn't auth come from the ESM anyway and not its own private auth file :) . The device

Re: RMSMASTR and shutdowns

2011-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
They have updated it to allow it to not die when it finds a device that doesn't exist on the system it was IPL'd on. We now just put all of the Dr and failover systems's VTS addresses in the config and need only one file now. Marcy Cortes Operating Systems Engineer, z/VM and Linux on System z

Re: RMSMASTR and shutdowns

2011-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
Hack?!? That's what UCOMDIR/SCOMDIR were designed for and why CMS manages APPC the way it does. FIlepool references in CMS are, by design, symbolic destination names. If you don't have a COMDIR entry, you get the defaults (e.g. TPN = symbolic name). Look at it this way. I don't want to

Re: RMSMASTR and shutdowns

2011-06-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 06/24/2011 at 05:46 EDT, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: Look at it this way. I don't want to have to have some VM guy with 30 years of experience needed to figure out where I put the config file for a product. :-) If was easy, ANYONE could do it. Ooo,

Re: RMSMASTR and shutdowns

2011-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
Didn't we agree not to publicly reveal the location of the VM Expert Assisted Living Facility, Retirement Community, and Sanitarium?!? But it won't help; the IBM phones will be forwarded there anyway. ;-) D'oh - so sorry! But my phone will be at the bottom of the bottomless blue blue blue

Re: RMSMASTR and shutdowns

2011-06-24 Thread Schuh, Richard
Is there something in RMSMASTR that requires a R/W 191? There does not appear to be on our system. The most recently written file on the disk is dated 12 Nov 2010. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On

Re: RMSMASTR and shutdowns

2011-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
Doesn't look like it. It's config files and work files currently reside by default in vmsysu:dfsms. Vmsys:dfsms. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,

Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-24 Thread Kent E. Taylor
How did you request a 3XL, Bill? The biggest choice offered in the pull-down was 2XL I registered yesterday, so I can't do it in my registration. I'll also send a copy of this post directly to Len Diegel in hopes he will see it in time and can accommodate me. Len, if possible I'd like a 4XL

Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-24 Thread Bill Munson
I think we can do that - Original Message - From: Kent E. Taylor [email...@stny.rr.com] Sent: 06/24/2011 09:28 PM AST To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available How did you request a 3XL, Bill? The biggest choice offered in

Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-24 Thread Kent E. Taylor
I didn't know about the Campus Hotel, so thanks for the heads-up. In fact I have a number of questions about the Workshop. Is there someplace I can direct my questions or perhaps a place that has more information? I would like to know what meals are included and also what handicap access

Re: VM Workshop

2011-06-24 Thread Chuck Morse
OK Bill. You can call off the search :-) I registered this afternoon. See you in Columbus. Chuck - Original Message - From: Bill Munson To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:56 AM Subject: Re: VM Workshop a few of us from the NYC area are planning

Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-24 Thread Bill Munson
Yes. When I get to a better console we can chat. This blackberry is too small. Later. munson - Original Message - From: Kent E. Taylor [email...@stny.rr.com] Sent: 06/24/2011 09:40 PM AST To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now

Re: VM Workshop

2011-06-24 Thread Bill Munson
Cool. Richard Lewis registered this afternoon also. munson - Original Message - From: Chuck Morse [mor...@comcast.net] Sent: 06/24/2011 09:42 PM AST To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Workshop OK Bill. You can call off the search :-) I registered this afternoon. See

Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-24 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir, Pardon me . 'Campus Hotel' ??. I did not see that on the list. I've sent in my registration and fees already . I have not decided if I'll, drive, ride (motorcycle) or fly to Ohio just yet but have been looking for accommodations. From the 'vmworkshop' website, I see that the