Here's some old video vignettes that I put together:
http://iceryder.net/videoclickermusic.html
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
By Dr. Ritter:
Self carriage, balance, and lightness are mutually interdependent
concepts that overlap to a large extent. A horse who carries himself has
found his balance under the rider. All four legs carry the same amount of
weight, and the thrusting and carrying powers of the hind legs are
I think this would be the single foot support phase...
Ha! It sure is. Single foot support of a having-a-blast canter!
Karen Thomas, NC
*i* have to talk to icelanders to talk about my horse. y'all are some
very fine people, but you're not here to tell me your terms for his
gaits, and neither is anybody else who has the least clue what they are
doing. so it's me and the icelandic speakers here in my little world,
and that's
The U OF M Kept Huggin last night, I talked with Raven as she was
driving home, I have not talked to her this morning... I will keep you
posted...
they took blood and did all kinds of tests... they are checking for
founder every 4 hours, have him on Ulcer Gaurd and he has an IV
Cathader, they
Free DVD from Parelli:
http://requests.parelli.com/freedvd.jsp
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
Watch Parelli in the UK:
http://horseandcountry.opusstream.net/Equestrian/83_138
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I added slo-mo to this page; look at the second video.
I put the wrong URL; here's the correct one:
http://iceryder.net/videogaitshowdm.html
Sorry! The wrong page got a zillion hits today!
I have a different
Here are some podcasts from Parelli:
http://podcast.parelli.com/Parelli%20Natural%20Horsemanship/Podcast/Podcast.html
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
Thanks for the update. Still praying.
Hunter spent a week in hospital two summers ago with an undiagnosed
diarrhea, temps of 105 (like Huggin). He did not have any of the three
things that most commonly cause a horse to present as he did. At times he
had three huge bags of fluids hanging. He
http://iceryder.net/videogaitshowdm.html
I have a different question, where was this video taken? Do you know?
You should recognize it: Del Mar!
Actually the mule and horse look like their feeting are hitting the
ground in the same sequence to me. I think it looks so different
because
I wonder if the
mouthpiece is too wide . I wouldn't think he could pull it so far out of
his horse's mouth if it weren't or is that a charecteristic of the gag
bit?
Not necessarily. It's the style of riding; if you look at the picture on
the cover, the rider is pulling the snaffle out of
Thanks. And again - good grief!
Makes one wonder if this riding style might not be very successful with a
less stoic breed of horse.
Think of how draft horses were used/abused in this country a generation ago.
If they had been a more warm-blooded type of horse, they'd have killed
somebody,
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it is
not enough for us to say well, we've re-defined this icelandic term
to
mean this other thing in english; that will only lead to
miscommunication.
--vicka (about 2500 miles from me to reykjavik;
3000 from here to
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://iceryder.net/videogaitshowdm.html
I have a different question, where was this video taken? Do you
know?
You should recognize it: Del Mar!
At first I thought the mountains looked like Mission Valley:) I
Please send
prayers and
energy to him, this is really scary for Raven...
--I will send all the prayers I can.
Happy Trails from Lori
Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join
I hope Cara isn't too ashamed of him...he can't help
it.
Wanda
Oh he is really ugly Wanda. I can't believe you would
send a picture of him. Wait until you see my Dagur.
I wonder if I should change his name. Too many
Dagurs. LOL
Happy Trails from Lori
It's hard because each horse is the same color all over, and the images
are small, so that it's hard to recognize which legs are which, but try to
look at the laterals for the mule, and the diagonals for the palomino. Are
they working more closely together?
I can't see that. I know you were
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Melnir got a new halter. It's brown biothane, and I
was happy to find one
with buckles at both sides of the crown. It's also
just 3/4 wide biothane
Wow. I thought it was leather at first. What is the
point of biothane. I know it is washable.
The mule is more toward pace (the laterals working more together),
maybe stepping pace, the palimino is more toward foxtrot (the diagonals
closer together), it was hard because every time I paused the palimino, it
was hard to see the diagonal, and the video wouldn't move frame to frame,
without
I don't know what tölt means in Iceland, but here in Finland (where the
only breed of gaited horses is icelandics) all the soft gaits really are
called tölt, but that doesn't mean they are all considered good tölt.
The only acceptable tölt is clear four-beat, any variations to pacy or
trotty side
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Skise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know what tölt means in Iceland, but here in Finland
(where the
only breed of gaited horses is icelandics) all the soft gaits
really are
called tölt, but that doesn't mean they are all considered good
tölt.
The only
Ah - that is so much more clear slowed down. Don't laugh you guys, but is
the mule more lateral and the white horse more diagonal? Does that make
the
mule doing a stepping pace? Help me, please.
Pretty good on analyzing!
This may be helpful: read the same thread on
:
I don't know what tölt means in Iceland, but here in Finland
(where the
only breed of gaited horses is icelandics) all the soft gaits
really are
called tölt, but that doesn't mean they are all considered good
tölt.
The only acceptable tölt is clear four-beat, any variations to
pacy
the saddle slipped back sometime during the ride. I rode a few rolling
hills this morning, but nothing too steep. Doesn't this look too far
back
to you?
Wow, that IS far back!
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
Or the other way around. I tried to get some videos yesterday, they
just keep following me and it's hard to get them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xBXIcDywp0
Kim
I can't see that. I know you were there, and you have the advantage of
seeing the uncompressed video, so I'll take your word for it, but I can't
see it on the YouTube version.
Youtube compresses too much!
I'll try to grab some stills.
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
Doesn't this look too far back
to you? I don't want to use a breastcollar if I don't have to - the
Sensations don't do that on him.
Yes it does. I use a breastcollar w/ my Sensation and it works very
well, doesn't seem to interfere w/ the horse.
Robyn S.
He was quite a sight and very sick.
We're hoping Huggin has a similar recovery even if it does confound his
docs.
As did one of my cats. He was lethargic and very off, very suddenly
one pm when I went to check on the cats. I checked his temp--the
thermometer got to 105 and wasn't finished
hi...i'm going to the U to drop off some feed for huginn. they will
keep him until monday. on monday...they will run more tests. and they
will also scope him to see what is going on with his airway and
stomach. they think that being off feed, not drinking and the stress
of all the antibiotics, may
just keep following me and it's hard to get them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xBXIcDywp0
Interesting clip! What was Zoe trying to do towards the end? Looks like
she might have been getting down for a rollback.
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
I don't know what tölt means in Iceland, but here in Finland (where the
only breed of gaited horses is icelandics) all the soft gaits really are
called tölt, but that doesn't mean they are all considered good tölt.
The only acceptable tölt is clear four-beat, any variations to pacy or
trotty side
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 02:19:16PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote:
Yes, icelandic training and riding style (ITRS) doesn't much make a
difference between canter / gallop, because they don't canter much.
huh? the canter is even on the novice test for shows.
--vicka
Wow. I thought it was leather at first. What is the point of
biothane. I know it is washable.
It's washable, and it doesn't fade and deteriorate like nylon. Mainly I
wanted a narrower halter that would fit under a bridle with less bulk, and
I'm not 100% a fan of rope halters - they're ok, but
Hi
What a cute horse Skjoni is:) You can see there is a slight slack in
the reins, he's not being forced into gait. He looks good.
He is a super horse. He is also one of those horses that tends to have a
natural 'hold' in his neck and one of the things we worked on when he was
here was for
I don't really buy that all Icelanders define tolt as all easy gaits.
I heard Gudmar at the Equine Affaire telling the audience that tolt is an
even 4 beat gait, one, two, three, four. How would that fit into this?
I'm pretty darned sure I've heard him mention the single foot support
phase too -
I don't know what tölt means in Iceland, but here in Finland (where the
only breed of gaited horses is icelandics) all the soft gaits really are
called tölt, but that doesn't mean they are all considered good tölt. The
only acceptable tölt is clear four-beat, any variations to pacy or trotty
side
Wow, that IS far back!
I was surprised when I dismounted and saw it. The girth was probably 3-4
inches further back than where I placed it originally. The saving grace for
this ride I think is that 1) the seat is plenty big enough for me so my butt
isn't on the cantle at all. And 2) it's a
Janice, I know how much you like animal prints...
http://www.victorycanter.com/product.php?productid=20220cat=0page=1
Karen Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
When I started taking Melnir out on the trail recently, I simply borrowed
Eitill's bridle, and Eitill has a distinct preference for his Happy Mouth
bits. In the past, I've always just used a normal French-type snaffle on
him, some regular French links and some with the oval peanut center. This
Youtube compresses too much!
I hate to sound so picky - it's nice that we have it. Sorry!
Karen Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 30/06/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Melnir got a new halter. It's brown biothane,
I like that Karen. Where did you get it? I'm looking for something
other than a rope halter under Gusti's bridle.
Wanda
I am sure thinking of Huggin and you Raven. It sounds like he is in
the very best care, please do keep us all updated.
Ann
I like that Karen. Where did you get it? I'm looking for something other
than a rope halter under Gusti's bridle.
I got it off ebay, as part of a set that included a add-on bridle. She's
checking to get a price on the halter alone, both in horse size and cob size.
Mine is arab/cob sized.
He is a super horse. He is also one of those horses that tends to have
a natural 'hold' in his neck and one of the things we worked on when he was
here was for him to stretch his neck down and forward. If you ride him on
tight contact he just gets tense.
Yes, to all of the above. I think
Yes it does. I use a breastcollar w/ my Sensation and it works very
well, doesn't seem to interfere w/ the horse.
I've never had to use one with any of the Sensations. I don't mind adding
one, but I'd rather address what's causing the problem first. I may want to
add one as an emergency
huh? the canter is even on the novice test for shows.
That's new, only added in the last couple of years. Up until a couple of
years ago, there wasn't even a score for canter in the evaluations. I think
they've added some small token of a score for canter now. But frankly, what
I see them show
so...that is all i know. will post more as the info comes in.
THANKS
Hang in there, Raven. I'm sure he will be fine - he HAS to be!
Karen Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
your continued love, prayers, healing light and
support are sure appreciated!! PLEASE keep it
coming.
Absolutely, and I'll keep short stuff in my thoughts
and prayers, too.
Susan in NV
Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
huginn is being stalled in the isolation unit..due to the fact that
the Vets do not know what is making him sick. so i am not allowed to
visit him. :8[
That would kill me, I'm glad to hear he is doing a little better.
Kim
I talked to Raven this afternoon, she went to the U of M to talk to
them and bring food and baby Carrots for Huggin, BTW, they all LOVE
him, ( what is not to love, he is adorable as we all know. ) He greets
the Vets/techs at the door, he is eating as she said before, his Beat
pulp, and best of all
Cary is doing a terrific job with him and I noticed in the video that
he is really working to stay in 'neutral' and not sit on his pockets. Looks
really good.
Oh, thanks, I forgot to mention that the first time. The phrase that Sue
Falkner March (at your Centered Riding clinic) used that was
huh? the canter is even on the novice test for shows.
Yes but.
Are they doing a canter?
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
Actually, I got the hard hat liner as it covers the
back of the neck. I loved it! It kept me cool, but
didn't wet my head. I also like having the back of my
neck covered so I don't become too much of a red-neck!
However, my helmet has the adjustable dial, so if you
don't have that and your
trace it back Judy! I could not help them like they need to be helped,
but someone else has done a huge service for them, and its because you
have these lists. God bless you Judy... i am still weepy about this!
I must say that I've learned over the years that our
breed attracts some
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 04:06:47PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote:
huh? the canter is even on the novice test for shows.
Yes but.
Are they doing a canter?
umm, i'd assume so? i intend to, at any rate. (stjarni has a lovely
canter, and i figure since it's on an oval rather than in
Thanks for the much better report. We continue to pray for Huggin. My
husband , who doesn't do e-mail, keeps asking how he's doing.
Nancy
fulfilling a childhood dream of owning a pony.
Let's face it, a fluffy pony is much less
intimidating than a horse!
We want something that is calm; we want something
that is smooth; we want a relationship.
That is EXACTLY it in a nutshell!!!
Susan in NV
Nevermore Ranch
Yes but. Are they doing a canter?
I remember someone asking on the list not long ago if Icelandic's can
actually canter. Of course, they can, at least all but the very paciest
ones, but you rarely, virtually never see canter in the breed demos, etc.
I'm proud to say we have some great
Yes but. Are they doing a canter?
if Icelandic's can
actually canter. Of course, they can, at least all
but the very paciest
ones, but you rarely, virtually never see canter in
the breed demos, etc.
I'm proud to say we have some great canters in this
That is true. It's not
Because it is so mountainous where we train, all the horses wear breast
plates. Most riders use the Zilco or biothane ones. They interfere with
the horse a lot less than a slipping saddle.
Some also use a crupper, and I should be one of those. Even though Hunter
has nice defined withers, his
Oh that was well said, women that always wanted a pony. That is why I bought
my first Icelandic mare eight years ago. Then when my Peruvian Paso died
from the West Nile shot, I bought my baby boy that is now six years old and
ready to go be a riding horse. I love having a pony. My quarter
Gloi and the horses got their feet trimmed on Thurs. They were long
and chipped even though it had only been 5 weeks. My farrier/barefoot
trimmer has been doing my horses for over 5 years with excellent
results. She used the nippers which she does on occasion, but this
time I think she took his
Sweet is right, my boy has been a stallion all this time and has never
offered to kick or bite me ever.
just because I want to always go on record as to not perpetuate any
stereotypes... I have owned/own three icelandics. All three were/have
been pistol balls. They are not sweet little
A good book showing all the gaited breeds is Those Fabulous floating
horses. When you get to the McCurdy section my Travelers sire is
pictured :) and it has a cool picture of a man riding the flying
pace, a totally blind man, which blew me away!
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo
I can't find the thread there are so many posts lately! must be a
popular list :) But someone posted recently that they had seen a D
ring bit with shanks, a curb bit? and no one could figure that
out...I went to Jeffers yesterday and I think I know what it is but i
may leave you still confused
On 6/28/07, Robyn Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How come in the movie they used Friesians and Andalusians with extra
hair glued on instead of icelandic horses?
Cause they're more romantic than little bitty ponies (except for the hobbits).
Now it seems that crossing Friesians w/
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 02:09:04PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote:
I think first we have to recognize what kinds of common practices
actually cause our horses pain.
[]
If you pick up a piece of tack, before it's employed, understand the
biomechanics behind it.
i think that understanding the
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 03:24:08PM -, kim morton wrote:
Ok, say we accept this premise, that we should use the Icelandic
term tolt to mean all easy gaits. What if someone wants to import an
Icelandic horse and wants to know *exactly* what gaits the horse is
showing, how will we know?
Anna,
If you see red in the ring he really is cut too close.. Let him stand where
he is comfortable no rocks around and I was told years ago to use turpintine
to toughen feet that have been cut too short. Paint the soles of the feet
with this, just the soles. POOR THING..Bute would help
yes, my jaspar seats his bit. I had read True Horsemanship and when I
got to the part about keeping the bit loose i thought oh yeah like
that'll work, maybe with him but not me... then I had to put another
horse's bridle on Jaspar one day and leave on a ride in a hurry, It
hung down so low the
On 6/28/07, pippa258 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Janice McDonald wrote:
but honestly she is the worst control freak on the planet, driving people
nuts, drives me nuts...
I'll bet she's an excellent nurse then ;-) ...is she in the ICU?
Trish
she was! but July she finishes some sort of
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
just because I want to always go on record as to not perpetuate any
stereotypes... I have owned/own three icelandics. All three
were/have
been pistol balls. They are not sweet little darling munchkins,
little
--- Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A good book showing all the gaited breeds is Those
Fabulous floating horses.
The author, Barbara Weatherwax, is a friend of mine
and lives 30 minutes from me. And yes, she is related
to the Lassie Weatherwax's.
Susan in NV
Nevermore Ranch
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I was told years ago to use turpintine to toughen
feet that have been cut too short.
And my farrier told me to use Iodine for this.
Frankly, being a health care worker, I would use Iodine.
Susan in NV
Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/
i was with my horses today for a long time in a close area. I got
caught in a rainstorm (yay!) and sat with them under the pole barn.
Traveller was mean to stonewall and ran him out into the rain and
stonewall backed up to kick him good just as traveller bent to scratch
a bug bite on his rear
oh thats nice, see? They need the head a little lower and nose not
cranked in to gait some gaits naturally...
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo
i dont see how you can just go by four clear beats four even
beats etc. I tried for years. For one thing, a hard pace is four
distinct beats if they are going fast and you mistake the two distinct
patterns for one. So is a trot for that matter. I finally found a
pattern in my jaspars stepping
how can anybody say icelandics dont canter. Thats just bizarre. i
have some video of nasi cantering at liberty on youtube. he canters
everywhere. Tivar canters. whats up with people saying they cant??!?
janice--
yipie tie yie yo
1. paint with venice turpentine.
2. stand him on styrofoam and draw an outline of his feet. cut them
out, tape them on with duct tape.
it works.
also, for some relief you can dig a hole where they have to stand,
where they are tied, whatever, fill the hole with water and make goopy
mud, add
Janice,
Now I don't feel so crazy about the turpintine thing. I would stand the
horse in water/mud it draws out the fever in the foot. My friend just went
through ground founder with her horse and it took months for her to get
better.
She is a big mare.
I sure have heard them all over
on Horsemans Edge or the Horse show or something on RFDTV this week is
the guy from Myler talking about bits and bitting. In typically
maddening totally ridiculous non-informative way he shows videos of
horses acting up and describes perfectly the problem see this horse
is wringing his tail and
Yes, I find them friendly, my boy runs to me when I call him. He will leave
food if I call him. He has been a big pet for years. Now he is not broke to
ride yet, so we will see. He was easy for me to blanket and put a saddle on
and rig him up from the beginning. His sister was that way
This morning, almost noon, it got so hot. I let all the horses out in
front and started bathing them all to cool them, I hosed Traveller
down first. Two horses later I look and Traveller is standing on the
other side, enjoying where the water was accidentally landing on him.
Then he came around
no not mutts! exotics like labrapoos and cockadoodles.--
Yeah and when those Labradoodles were coming into vogue the prices
were $2000! For a mixed breed! And they were flying off the shelves
too! The really weird thing is that you could buy a purebred
Portuguese Water Dog for less than half
On 6/30/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder what makes a treeless saddle like this one slip back...?
oh man THAT is the million dollar question!! EVERY treeless slips
with me, and the sensation less, but still does unless I tighten the
girth, come back tighten again, come back,
this
is very important to me personally since I have one horse, Fox, who is
always seeking tongue relief and I just cant seem to find a way to
give it
Will he go in a sidepull?
Robyn S
So I go out, I crank him in tied short to the cross tie, I drag up my
stool and climb up and there he is braced as tight and stubborn as
always and I just took the bit and offered it to him, just rested it
against his tight stubborn lips and in a soft soothing voice I said
Jaspar, will you
On 30/06/07, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And my farrier told me to use Iodine for this.
Frankly, being a health care worker, I would use Iodine.
Susan in NV
I would use iodine too. If I can't smear something on myself...it
doesn't go on my horses.
He just needs some rest for a
Gusti is just doing so well. As for your disease, don't you sort of wonder
tif those of us who are well endowed in the bottom department aren't the
norm and those skinny little women like my daughter Abby aren't the
diseased. There are sure more of us than there are of the Abbys in this
world.
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