Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Hiran Venugopalan wrote: > On 14 May 2010 13:00, nishandh M wrote: > > @Jinesh, I am understanding the evils of RTF more and more, hope we are > > working out the policy of not using RTF.Evevnthough I look like > > "thallandammaavaa njan nannavillaha", > > Simple.

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Rajeev J Sebastian < rajeev.sebast...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Ashik S wrote: > > Of course. As I said I was merely expressing my views. I didnt ask anyone > to accept it, nor to abide by it. I think Rajeev mentioned Multipart emails. >

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Ashik S wrote: > Of course. As I said I was merely expressing my views. I didnt ask anyone to > accept it, nor to abide by it. I think Rajeev mentioned Multipart emails. I > do not know what that is, but from what he describes, its looks useful. Hi Aashik, The

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

2010/5/17 Ashik S : > Of course. As I said I was merely expressing my views. I didnt ask anyone to > accept it, nor to abide by it. I think Rajeev mentioned Multipart emails. I > do not know what that is, but from what he describes, its looks useful. http://www.wilsonweb.com/wmt5/html-email-mult

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

Of course. As I said I was merely expressing my views. I didnt ask anyone to accept it, nor to abide by it. I think Rajeev mentioned Multipart emails. I do not know what that is, but from what he describes, its looks useful. -- aashik -- "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://w

Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

2010/5/14 Rahul Ramesh : > Aashik, > Dont take this in a bad sense but You are being Bossy. That is what I was telling on the other thread. -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ I know my rights; I want my phone call! What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- "Freedom

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

2010/5/17 ashik salahudeen : > Thread is still open for discussion. I was merely expressing my views. As > said elsewhere mod hats are on only for a short while and will be explicitly > made clear when they are on. The thing is, the purpose here is not clear at > all - what exactly is being achieve

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

2010/5/17 bipin kumar : > i am just asking what this thread is attempting to accomplish? to > establish mailing list rules when there good set of rules already > existing in place? what's the point in that? I always think it is better to understand why not RTF and not using it, than just blindly f

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On 14 May 2010 13:00, nishandh M wrote: > @Jinesh, I am understanding the evils of RTF more and more, hope we are > working out the policy of not using RTF.Evevnthough I look like > "thallandammaavaa njan nannavillaha", Simple. Your first mail to Subject : Linux haters blog looks like this http:

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Aashik, Dont take this in a bad sense but You are being Bossy. -- Rahul On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:31 PM, ashik salahudeen wrote: > I havent had access to broadbamd all these days and wasn't checking > the ilug-tvm discussions. After reading through all the emails i have > come to the conclusio

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

i am just asking what this thread is attempting to accomplish? to establish mailing list rules when there good set of rules already existing in place? what's the point in that? On May 17, 3:12 am, Praveen A wrote: > 2010/5/16 bipin kumar : > > > forgive me if i am wrong. isn't this discussion thr

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

Thread is still open for discussion. I was merely expressing my views. As said elsewhere mod hats are on only for a short while and will be explicitly made clear when they are on. The thing is, the purpose here is not clear at all - what exactly is being achieved here ? On May 17, 2010 3:46 AM, "P

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

2010/5/16 ashik salahudeen : > I dont think > we need anything extra here. mod seems to be in mood :) Should we arbitrarily limit this list? I feel much more comfortable with the mood of the other mod. -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ I know my rights; I want my phone call! What use is a phone

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

2010/5/16 bipin kumar : > forgive me if i am wrong. isn't this discussion thread attempting to > reinventing the wheel? the mailing list practices have been in place > in last 2 last as far as i know and those rule hold still true in > todays environment as well. further standardizing mailing list

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Srihari k wrote: > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM, nishandh M wrote: > > "Why differential emphasis of text?" : (these are known facts, but needs > to > > be elaborated, owing to the solid NO-RTF/HTML cry in the posts): > > > > When we make a post considering a

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Rajeev J Sebastian < rajeev.sebast...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM, nishandh M wrote: > > "Why differential emphasis of text?" : (these are known facts, but needs > to > > be elaborated, owing to the solid NO-RTF/HTML cry in the posts): > >

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Srihari k wrote: > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM, nishandh M wrote: > > "Why differential emphasis of text?" : (these are known facts, but needs > to > > be elaborated, owing to the solid NO-RTF/HTML cry in the posts): > > > > When we make a post considering a

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Rajeev J Sebastian < rajeev.sebast...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM, nishandh M wrote: > > "Why differential emphasis of text?" : (these are known facts, but needs > to > > be elaborated, owing to the solid NO-RTF/HTML cry in the posts): > >

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

@Rajiv and anybody sharing similiar thoughts: What I am trying to accomplish: To increase user friendliness, as to increase user base. I strongly belive, If any piece of software is to be supported by Hardware vendors, the best way is to increase its market share(user base). And what I am attemp

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:09 PM, ashik salahudeen wrote: > Bipin is right. Just follow what is there at khandalaya.org . I dont think > we need anything extra here. +1 http://kandalaya.org/guidelines.html is enough. It was there long before. -- Srihari -- "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

Bipin is right. Just follow what is there at khandalaya.org . I dont think we need anything extra here. On May 16, 2010 8:30 PM, "bipin kumar" wrote: oops sorry i forgot to do a spell check before posting. please read the line "the mailing list practices have been in place in last 2 last as far

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

oops sorry i forgot to do a spell check before posting. please read the line "the mailing list practices have been in place in last 2 last as far as i know and those rule hold still true in todays environment as well" as "the mailing list practices have been in place for last 2 decades

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

forgive me if i am wrong. isn't this discussion thread attempting to reinventing the wheel? the mailing list practices have been in place in last 2 last as far as i know and those rule hold still true in todays environment as well. further standardizing mailing list practices is not the primary obj

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM, nishandh M wrote: > "Why differential emphasis of text?" :  (these are known facts, but needs to > be elaborated, owing to the solid NO-RTF/HTML cry in the posts): > > When we make a post considering an extended range of readers,(from the busy > contributors to --e

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM, nishandh M wrote: > "Why differential emphasis of text?" :  (these are known facts, but needs to > be elaborated, owing to the solid NO-RTF/HTML cry in the posts): > > When we make a post considering an extended range of readers,(from the busy > contributors to --e

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

"Why differential emphasis of text?" : (these are known facts, but needs to be elaborated, owing to the solid NO-RTF/HTML cry in the posts): When we make a post considering an extended range of readers,(from the busy contributors to --especially-- the newbie user) , we may have to expand a lot. A

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

Nettiquette guidelines: http://www.rfc1855.net/ On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:08 AM, nishandh M wrote: > > > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:04 AM, ashik salahudeen wrote: > >> Nishandh , the first link you posted, the one at khandalaya has been there >> in the group home page for sometime now :) if you d

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:04 AM, ashik salahudeen wrote: > Nishandh , the first link you posted, the one at khandalaya has been there > in the group home page for sometime now :) if you do want to emphasize then > try and use underscores like _this_ . Just make sure that things you post > are in

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

Nishandh , the first link you posted, the one at khandalaya has been there in the group home page for sometime now :) if you do want to emphasize then try and use underscores like _this_ . Just make sure that things you post are in plaintext rather than HTML. That pdf in malayalam should be useful

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On 14 May 2010 12:35, jinesh kj wrote: > @nishandh > > hi, > > I dont know whether you understand the problem or not. Most of the > times its ok for me since i am using either firefox or evolution to > read my mails. But occasionally i will end up having only CLI(i think > many others around here

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

4) use the Names of persons, as it is provided by the person. On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:56 AM, nishandh M wrote: > Hi .. > The following references have been put forward by various contributors to > this mailing list, as a reference to Good practices in communities. > [We give thrust to intern

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

Hi .. The following references have been put forward by various contributors to this mailing list, as a reference to Good practices in communities. [We give thrust to internet based community activity. Any guidelines for field activity and direct user interaction will not be disregarded] http://ka

Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

I havent had access to broadbamd all these days and wasn't checking the ilug-tvm discussions. After reading through all the emails i have come to the conclusion that this thread should stop here. The only people who contributed constructively would be Praveen, Rajeev J Sebastian and nishandh in th

Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:22 PM, nishandh M wrote: > > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Rajeev J Sebastian > wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Raj Kamal wrote: >> > . >> >> >> >> WTF does that mean? If you cannot write English that anyone can >> >> understand, please refrain from

Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Rajiv Nair wrote: > As a "silent" mod who's only "contribution" is to filter spam out of > the list, this is my take on this entire thread. This is just my > opinion and should not be attributed to any other moderator. > > As moderators we try our maximum to NOT p

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On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Rajeev J Sebastian < rajeev.sebast...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Raj Kamal wrote: > > . > >> > >> WTF does that mean? If you cannot write English that anyone can > >> understand, please refrain from writing at all! > > > > > >> > >> @ Ra

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2010/5/14 nishandh M : > there are many ways. Too many a ways. That is the problem we discussed > above. Too many 'distros' sprouting everywhere. dispersing efforts. we spoke > about setting priorities in a mailing list [ilug-tvm has a big potential;so To a certain level there is duplication of wo

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2010/5/14 Rajiv Nair : > As moderators we try our maximum to NOT put our "mod" caps on to kick > and ban people. People in this list are not children and mods are > definitely not babysitters. We are here to keep this list clean of > unrelated posts(spam mostly..and we do get LOT of it), not to kee

Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

As a "silent" mod who's only "contribution" is to filter spam out of the list, this is my take on this entire thread. This is just my opinion and should not be attributed to any other moderator. As moderators we try our maximum to NOT put our "mod" caps on to kick and ban people. People in this li

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On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Raj Kamal wrote: > . >> >> WTF does that mean? If you cannot write English that anyone can >> understand, please refrain from writing at all! > > >> >> @ Rajeev Sebastian > > This is a mailing list and dont ever use abusive language. (For those who > dont know the

Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

I thought that blog was particularly annoying. But there is positive stuff to take from such a blog. It clearly shows that Ubuntu is reaching to the masses and to the non-technical people too.The user base of Ubuntu is growing. Does any of us have any idea the number of e-mails that Bill Gates get

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. > > WTF does that mean? If you cannot write English that anyone can > understand, please refrain from writing at all! > > @ Rajeev Sebastian > This is a mailing list and dont ever use abusive language. (For those who dont know the meaning of WTF: It stands for What The Fu** ) There are hundred

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2010/5/14 nishandh M : > agreed. And when we consider the ignorant user, I think handling the error > in a successive step would be better than alerting about a possible false > positive and make it get done in a not-so-easy way. Did you get to see the warning messages in Firefox when a https page

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

hi, On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:00 PM, nishandh M wrote: > I donno about 'mail server GUI client'. I hope you are saying about GUI of > web browsers? One specific doubt which i would be pleased  to get cleared: > if a CLI email client is used, the data corresponding to Rich part of > messages(image

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

@Jinesh, I am understanding the evils of RTF more and more, hope we are working out the policy of not using RTF.Evevnthough I look like "thallandammaavaa njan nannavillaha", And some had to spend a little more time to make it clear for me, as i was not aware of most of these possible problems.thank

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

@nishandh hi, I dont know whether you understand the problem or not. Most of the times its ok for me since i am using either firefox or evolution to read my mails. But occasionally i will end up having only CLI(i think many others around here too), but that doesn't mean i shouldn't be able to go

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On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Praveen A wrote: > 2010/5/13 nishandh M : > > Am repeating some X-th time, unfortunately, > > The distro gets blame for asking to manually, and wastefully execute an > > exactly known, working solution to a defined problem. > > You agree it worked in a normal cas

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On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Praveen A wrote: > That is one reason I think Google Summer of Code is very important. > Because every selected student is assigned a mentor (who plays the > role of a catalyst). We need much more mentors and more such systems > in place to get more contributions.

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Praveen A wrote: > 2010/5/13 nishandh M : > > Nobody should let another man decide wat he should do. Why shud he follow > > the ML best prctices?** its some other's decision!. We are dealing with > > democracy. Make complicate. GAME. See, I do RTF when i am madly

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2010/5/14 Rajeev J Sebastian : > You need to read up on the "Contribute" section of your favorite > distro's website, or use some of the many established ways in which > USERS (as opposed to developers) can take part in development. MANY > MANY FLOSS software projects include NON-DEVELOPERS in thei

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2010/5/13 nishandh M : > Am repeating some X-th time, unfortunately, > The distro gets blame for asking to manually, and wastefully execute an > exactly known, working solution to a defined problem. You agree it worked in a normal case. When you have exceptional cases, sometime you need to handle

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

2010/5/13 nishandh M : > Nobody should let another man decide wat he should do. Why shud he follow > the ML best prctices?** its some other's decision!. We are dealing with > democracy. Make complicate. GAME. See, I do RTF when i am madly feeling to > express that way, i cant help sometimes.I feel

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@Jemshid,u r right, am really wasting some time. But i think somebody should spend time on such views. Rajivs way is to use truthfull, factual statements embedded with deviating replies, effecting his intention to let the mailinglist perish without a direction and policy. His intervention as exhi

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On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Jemshid KK wrote: > Hi Nishanth, > There are certain mails and comments in this mailing list which doesn't > deserve an answer. > I think it is high time we need to ignore unnecessary subjective emails. > There a few mails in the list, which doesn't deserve a repl

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Hi Nishanth, There are certain mails and comments in this mailing list which doesn't deserve an answer. I think it is high time we need to ignore unnecessary subjective emails. There a few mails in the list, which doesn't deserve a reply at all. Lets ignore those mails and just think of meeting ou

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Praveen A wrote: > 2010/5/13 nishandh M : > > @ praveen, that rendering of text and background is not the exact one i > made > > or meant . I made a pale yellow distinguition for two parts of > conversation > > in a white background. Somebody called me and said t

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Praveen A wrote: > 2010/5/13 nishandh M : > > @ Praveen, being specific about the problem, it occured when i was > running > > on Ubuntu. [at that time I had an 'Almann' virus in my XP, which disabled > > safe removal of removable media. > > So now Ubuntu gets th

Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Subin Sebastian wrote: > @Nishandh > > i still have the feeling that linux is not going to be user friendly for >> another forth coming decade. >> > > "Linux is not user-friendly?. It _is_ user-friendly! > It is not ignorant-friendly and idiot-friendly..." > @Sebi

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2010/5/13 nishandh M : > @ Praveen, being specific about the problem, it occured when i was running > on Ubuntu. [at that time I had an 'Almann' virus in my XP, which disabled > safe removal of removable media. So now Ubuntu gets the blame for a virus in Windows as well :) >

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

2010/5/13 nishandh M : > @ praveen, that rendering of text and background is not the exact one i made > or meant . I made a pale yellow distinguition for two parts of conversation > in a white background. Somebody called me and said the picture tube monitors > are already yellowish, so i tried ligh

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

hi it would useful if people read the mailing list practices posted on the group' s homepage. http://kandalaya.org/guidelines.html it would make everyone's life better. further it is my understanding that once a person sign up for a group then its his/her onus to respect the the rules/guidlin

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@Nishandh i still have the feeling that linux is not going to be user friendly for > another forth coming decade. > "Linux is not user-friendly?. It _is_ user-friendly! It is not ignorant-friendly and idiot-friendly..." Just a quote in the last decade on the web from an unknown source... ;-) --

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

@ Bipinkumar, Praveen, yeah! who the hell did that :P hehehe. he wont do that again, provided he get some reponses from those using other colour themes. I have a perception that majority users use dark text on light background.(wrong?) @ praveen, that rendering of text and background is not the ex

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@ Praveen, being specific about the problem, it occured when i was running on Ubuntu. [at that time I had an 'Almann' virus in my XP, which disabled safe removal of removable media. I had to pull HDD off, when i see there is no active read / write. (every x seconds , some read/write used to be ther

Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)

wow that formatting was one hell of a overkill On May 12, 11:04 pm, Praveen A wrote: > 2010/5/12 nishandh M : > > > This is just a repetition of the above, with some high lighting. pardon for > > using RTF, but I would like to get opinion on whether this seems offensive. > > I thought we ar

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2010/5/12 Harish CM : > Look at it this way - as a sysadmin I would not want removable media (floppy > cd/dvd pen drives etc to enter (for fear of contamination of my network) or > taken away (information security) so much so such devices are disabled - and > that is precisely where the problem lie

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2010/5/12 nishandh M : >> 1) google for an answer > >  Practical? > User is supposed to own two systems,  and connect the other to repair the > faulty system to discuss online. If both are down, spend 20Rs/hour at > internet cafe. (consider the rate of breakdown at USER level, frequency of > incide

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2010/5/11 Yadu Nand : > Hi Praveen, > > Just to clarify, please check this paste-->http://pastebin.com/Wuymp9Qn > Thats the output from " sudo fdisk -l " What you wanted to clarify with this paste? You can easily find the device name? >> That is exactly what we are discussing, why is it not there

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I'm done with this thread. Obviosly Nishandh is unwilling to learn, and makes tangential arguments. So be it. If this is what FOSS has going for it, then God help all of us! Regards Rajeev J Sebastian On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 6:45 AM, nishandh M wrote: > > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Raje

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Look at it this way - as a sysadmin I would not want removable media (floppy cd/dvd pen drives etc to enter (for fear of contamination of my network) or taken away (information security) so much so such devices are disabled - and that is precisely where the problem lies. Most of us are worried abou

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On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Rajeev J Sebastian < rajeev.sebast...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Nishandh, > > It is not my fault that you cannot use Linux. Use what is given to > you, improve it, do whatever. Just stop ranting. Do something > constructive. Linux is not non-techies yet, despite wha

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Dear Nishandh, It is not my fault that you cannot use Linux. Use what is given to you, improve it, do whatever. Just stop ranting. Do something constructive. Linux is not non-techies yet, despite what Ubuntu marketing has fooled you into believing. Deal with it. Move on. I don't come to you *rant

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This is just a repetition of the above, with some high lighting. pardon for using RTF, but I would like to get opinion on whether this seems offensive. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:01 AM, nishandh M wrote: > @Rajiv, > I think its your nature to keep yourself irritated. > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1

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@Rajiv, I think its your nature to keep yourself irritated. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Rajeev J Sebastian < rajeev.sebast...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Jemshid KK wrote: > > This mail may not have nothing much to deal with the subject of this > > discussion. > >

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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Jemshid KK wrote: > This mail may not have nothing much to deal with the subject of this > discussion. > But I know Nishanth and what his intentions are. > Hence a few comments in the mailing list deserve a reply. > > On 11 May 2010 11:56:52 UTC+5:30, Rajeev J Seb

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@Jemshid +1 :P -- Thanks and Regards, Yadu Nand B (+91 94477 80725) -- "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.c

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This mail may not have nothing much to deal with the subject of this discussion. But I know Nishanth and what his intentions are. Hence a few comments in the mailing list deserve a reply. On 11 May 2010 11:56:52 UTC+5:30, Rajeev J Sebastian < rajeev.sebast...@gmail.com> wrote: > > WTF does that m

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Hi Praveen, Just to clarify, please check this paste-->http://pastebin.com/Wuymp9Qn Thats the output from " sudo fdisk -l " > That is exactly what we are discussing, why is it not there by default? Because, Linux is not about someone else making choices for you. It's about giving the user control

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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:55 PM, nishandh M wrote: > @Rajiv, > Old statements would be coming up as long as it is valid. from anybody > frustrated. > Who is actually tired? of what and why? Please expand, it shud have the > answer. Old tired statements are invalid, if nothing has been learned whe

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As of ART and tastes, it cannot be evaluated in a generalised way as in science, expressions like: "i didnt like it" is OK, but "your way is wrong" could gather negative reactions. The Rich Text Formating has an impact, but should not go upto the way as to impact loss of focus or impart dizzines

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@ everybody, i poked a little too much, I poked those whom i felt are answering with exceptions, and answering the peripheral issues. I know everything doesnt make sense (cant help! sorry!) but there is some sense,which i highlighted. Got poked for highlighting too. and there had been some sensible

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2010/5/10 Hiran Venugopalan : > Background color, text color, different text size, italics, bold. All > in a paragraph! > Thanks for not using underlines and strike through. :) > > Personally my experience says it never attracts to read. Well, I did find it annoying too, especially with a green on

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2010/5/11 Yadu Nand : > I do not really understand where is the difficulty in usability.There two > alternative ways I use That is exactly what we are discussing, why is it not there by default? > 1. Go add the Disk Mounter applet to the gnome-panel Why can't it just work, like in many distros?

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@ Rajeev, > You don't make a whole lot of sense in this thread and your HTML > emails are very irritating and annoying. It is a bit. I agree :P > I request the admin to ban this idiot from the mailing list. Don't you think that is too much ? If you don't like his mail don't bother to read or even

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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:21 PM, nishandh M wrote: > OK. linux has no problems :D. and There is no need to point out complexities > intentionally maintained. > > Ban me from this mailing list. Its no difference, for a non-code common man > to be in this list. Nishandh, You take things in the wr

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OK. linux has no problems :D. and There is no need to point out complexities intentionally maintained. Ban me from this mailing list. Its no difference, for a non-code common man to be in this list. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Rajeev J Sebastian < rajeev.sebast...@gmail.com> wrote: > On

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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:46 AM, nishandh M wrote: > @ Rajiv & Hiran, the Rant (wikipedia helped) and RTF aesthetics will be > answered in an Off Topic thread.as It would be offensive to people who opts > not to spend  time for content with no direct impact on FOSS development in > this specific m

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Hi, @Praveen , > Can anybody try to access ntfs partitions from Ubuntu and reply how is > the experience? Yes, I've been having an NTFS partition on my system and have been accessing it from ubuntu since day1 of switching to ubuntu. I do not really understand where is the difficulty in usability.T

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I have been* *lamenting on user friendliness for some time. the thread http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm/browse_thread/thread/45a1da9cb4fa4aca and http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm/browse_thread/thread/ thr

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On 10 May 2010 21:19, nishandh M wrote: > thanks, evrybody again, > @ Hiran, Rich texting is my policy to attract to specific points, when am > typing longer than a tweet.I am sticking to my issue: Readability(part of > userfriendliness). subscribing to anoops("be the change" philosophy in > small

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On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:19 PM, nishandh M wrote: > in the terminal. That is the point. That is exactly the point. Why shud we > manually do that every time? It could have been done in a single click, > accepting the risks whether its legal or security issue. Not sure whether you're a software d

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On 10 May 2010 20:53, Praveen A wrote: > 2010/5/10 Hiran Venugopalan : >> Nishandh, mail as plain text. Please dont rich text mails to ML. > > Hiran, > > Give me one reason. for not using rich text? Its unreadable. A word in red with huge size, and red color between normal sentence. I cant focus

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Hi Nishand, I have a point to make: User friendliness is about how comfortable the user is with the computer he/she is using.So every one will need his computer tuned to his own tastes.So is it not better that one chooses a distro that will mostly suite his computer usage(coarse tuning).Spend some

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thanks, evrybody again, @ Hiran, Rich texting is my policy to attract to specific points, when am typing longer than a tweet.I am sticking to my issue: Readability(part of userfriendliness). subscribing to anoops("be the change" philosophy in smaller issues :) ) I will simply text it if I have a b

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2010/5/10 Hiran Venugopalan : > Nishandh, mail as plain text. Please dont rich text mails to ML. Hiran, Give me one reason. -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ I know my rights; I want my phone call! What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- "Freedom is the only la

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On 9 May 2010 02:42, nishandh M wrote: Nishandh, mail as plain text. Please dont rich text mails to ML. -- Hiran Venugopalan Usability / IxD Geek, Ubiqurio IRC : HFactor | Phone : 09496346709 | W : http://hiran.in -- "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You

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2010/5/9 Sebin Jacob : > Dear Nisandh, > > Till this day, I haven't once used command line to mount an NTFS external > drive in my arch linux machine. I have a WD external hard disk, which is > password protected in windows, but opens up even without asking any password > in my arch machine. I had

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On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 8:00 AM, BINNY THOMAS wrote: > > True, but some of the faults that are supposedly with Linux are not actually > Linux's fault isn't it? I mean lack of hardware support and proper drivers? As if that's the only failure of Linux :P I have faced situations in which drivers are

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Dear Nisandh, Till this day, I haven't once used command line to mount an NTFS external drive in my arch linux machine. I have a WD external hard disk, which is password protected in windows, but opens up even without asking any password in my arch machine. I had also opened several other external

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Hi, @NIshandh Wow! That was a pretty long description about the lack of user friendliness in Linux. You are right, Linux has to do a better job at targeting new users. Some techie users might feel that they might lose their edge if Linux became a childs play. But Linux is getting better ever

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