I would say it's okay as long as you allow 100% remote workers. The Java Posse
is very geographically distributed. If this is a job only open to people who
live in one city, then it's a waste of time for 99% of the people on this list.
On Thu Feb 11, 2010, at 10:11 PM, John Wright wrote:
Is
There's an Mercurial plug-in for Eclipse, too (http://www.vectrace.com/
mercurialeclipse/). My point was that the Netbeans sources itself are
stored in Mercurial (remember Tor talking about this extensively on a
podcast), whereas the Eclipse guys decided to offer git as the
standard
I don't really see it as a problem. This is no different than people resizing
windows of desktop apps. We've known how to deal with that for 20 years.
On Sat Feb 6, 2010, at 6:23 AM, Karsten Silz wrote:
On Feb 6, 1:48 am, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote:
The WebOS (the OS that runs
, Karsten Silz wrote:
On Feb 6, 6:01 pm, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote:
I don't really see it as a problem. This is no different than people
resizing windows of desktop apps. We've known how to deal with that for 20
years.
Of course it's possible! All I'm saying it's more
They need alliance with other big players - wonder if Palm and, say,
Amazon could converge on app store synergy somehow? IOW, Palm needs a
more vibrant app store story.
That's one of the things I'm going to be working on: helping developers make
great apps for the App Catalog.
Incidentally,
be a
Plugin Development Kit as well, which gives you a straight C+Linux+OpenGL API
based on SDL, for the times you really need low level access (ex: OpenGL 3D
games).
- Josh
On Fri Feb 5, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Karsten Silz wrote:
On Feb 5, 8:08 pm, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote
Lots of people have opined on Apple's iPad, many deriding it's closed nature
and lack of features. The thing is, those problems don't matter to most
people. The iPad isn't for you or me. It's for everyone else. I've spent the
last 20 years hoping we would have the technology to build such a
Yes, the key to all of these is electronic paper. The most popular form is the
technology from eInk, though there are several competing technologies that may
hit the market soon. Electronic paper is special because it requires *no*
power to keep the image and has a reflective surface instead
Unlikely. The single core speed problem is due to fundamental limits of
physics. The only way we will make single cores significantly faster is through
major silicon process improvements (perhaps using new materials), major cooling
improvements (very unlikely), or by making programming models
Yes, you can skin JavaFX controls with pure code, FXDs, or CSS
On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Casper Bang wrote:
True. But the problem is then you are required to write your own
UIDelegates in Swing to get Nimbus to run on that 3'rd part data
picker you tracked down. Flex skinning is a
JavaFX for mobile has no Swing in it. JavaFX for desktop uses parts of
Swing and Java2D today, but it won't always. JavaFX running on the
next gen graphics stack will have no AWT or Swing in it at all.
However, Swing will always be supported because it's part of core Java
and the JRE. That
Webstart and applets can use native libs with the nativelib element
in JNLP files. It's even easier when you use JNLP extensions. I'm
sure the SWT team has created a standard SWT extension that you can
simply include in your app's JNLP.
- Josh
On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Mario Camou
sorry. i just contacted the datacenter that hosts my virtual server.
there was an emergency reboot of the physical hardware and then some
sort of bug in Xen which prevented my virtual server from restarting.
they've fixed it now.
- j
On Oct 28, 2009, at 9:12 AM, Fabrizio Giudici wrote:
that's a whole lot of ipods!
On Oct 28, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Steven Herod wrote:
Large gobs meaning, from what I heard, about 2TB of flash storage.
On Oct 29, 9:51 am, Van Riper van.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Casper Bang
casper.b...@gmail.com wrote:
Having
, but inevitably end
up
displayed on overhead projections, paper, handhelds, large screens.
Do we
worry about these up front? Or are the color differences between
these and
the computer screen too small to worry about?
Nice blog - thanks for sharing.
-TBT
On Oct 25, 11:19 pm, Joshua Marinacci
For those of you who are interested in design and usability, I've
started my series on design fundamentals with an explanation of color.
I'd love to get your feedback.
http://www.joshondesign.com/?p=54
- Josh
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Always take everything the Register says with a grain of salt. They
are wrong as much as they are right. JavaOne is still listed on
Moscone's website for 2010.
On Oct 8, 2009, at 12:20 AM, Phil wrote:
More than a rumour:
So you want some sort of JDK wide versioning system so that even the
standard runtime libs are versioned and can be swapped out at will.
Almost like pieces in a *Jigsaw* puzzle. :)
-j
On Oct 6, 2009, at 5:48 PM, Jess Holle wrote:
There really *should* be a way to set the equivalent of
On Oct 1, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Jess Holle wrote:
Joshua Marinacci wrote:
No. The out of process plugin was introduced in Java 6 update 10.
Understood, but prior to Java 6 Update 10 one could explicitly use
Java
Web Start to get out-of-process operation, which is what we're doing
I've had to
resort to dynamically create the jnlp file with appropriate cookie
properties passed along.
/Casper
On 1 Okt., 06:08, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote:
I'm not sure if the applet uses the same http cache as the browser.
However, applets can talk to the page
The fact that when you launch a Java Web Start application from the
browser there is no hand-off of the current cookie set, etc, is
problematic -- and has led to double authentication in various use
cases
for us.
I suppose restructuring as a draggable applet would avoid that?
Yes.
--
to return to your website.
- Josh
On Oct 1, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Jess Holle wrote:
Joshua Marinacci wrote:
The fact that when you launch a Java Web Start application from the
browser there is no hand-off of the current cookie set, etc, is
problematic -- and has led to double authentication
, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Joshua Marinacci
jos...@marinacci.org wrote:
You can tell if draggable applets and 6u10 are available using the
javascript functions in the Java Deployment Toolkit (deploy.js and
dtfx.js).
If the user doesn't have the supported configuration they can still
run the applet
On Sep 30, 2009, at 2:33 AM, Casper Bang wrote:
Java gained such massive adoption not because it was a particularly
great language, but because it became a standard - managers love
standards because it provides stability and security.
I completely disagree. Java gained widespread adoption
On Sep 30, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Alan Kent wrote:
The other thing I have not looked into deeply yet is authentication
support. E.g. Authentication infrastructures using Kerberos, NTML,
CAS,
SAML, SPNEGO or whatever else the customer dictates is required by
their
environment. My
the desktop shortcut without the browser.
- Josh
On Sep 30, 2009, at 7:23 PM, Alan Kent wrote:
Joshua Marinacci wrote:
...This means you can use any authentication scheme you want
using one of the many Java authentication libs out there...
...However, in
the case of authentication
pm, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote:
Simpler layout rules. Flex doesn't have LayoutManagers. Swing's
Layout sucks in JavaFX right now. JFXtra's offers some assistance
here with a Grid and MigLayout layout helpers, but its a priority I
believe for the team.
Actually, the layout
yep. There have been several times when I wanted an immediate mode API
but each of these had a better alternative using the scenegraph API. A
few items aren't possible with today's API, but I've filed bugs to add
them. see:
http://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-5570
Event bubbling. Flex/Flash has the concept of event bubbling.
Bubbling helps alleviate the performance issues because events can be
defined to bubble or not at event creation time. Swing used to
bubble
all events in 1.0, but that got neutered when they had performance
problems. That
From what I've seen over the past 10 months of working with JavaFX is
that
1. It was initially quite immature
2. It's rapidly improving
3. The guys at Sun seem to 'get' it, and are working their butts off
to make it work.
We are waiting for the brand new PRISM scenegraph architecture,
On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Jess Holle wrote:
Joshua Marinacci wrote:
Events are projected through the scenegraph. If you click on a
rectangle it will get the mouse event. If the rectangle doesn't have
blocksMouse:true set then the event will also go to the nodes below
Have you looked at JavaFX at all? Almost all of the things you prefer
in Flex over Java have been addressed in JavaFX. We felt much as you
did, that Swing wasn't cutting as a 21st century toolkit.
- Josh
On Sep 21, 2009, at 2:19 PM, sasperilla wrote:
I just listened to the podcast about
many hard problems become solvable with a module system. that's why
it's the most important feature for JDK 7
On Sep 18, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
These are (easily) solvable problems. Especially with a module system.
On Sep 18, 7:05 pm, Alex Buckley alex.buck...@sun.com
(warning, this is long).
It's easier to invent a new language than improve the old one for the
same reason it's far faster and cheaper to build a brand new road then
to do minor repairs on an existing road that's *in use*. This is just
the nature of software. Once something ships and is
in JavaFX you do this:
Button {
action: function() {
println(I'm doing stuff. Honest!);
}
}
the function above is actually a closure. You could also do this:
function doStuff():Void {
println(I'm really doing stuff this time);
}
Button { action: doStuff
I haven't listened to the podcast yet, so I'm not sure what they were
referring to. I'm just demonstrating the JavaFX Script syntax.
What makes the syntax great (and an improvement over the Swing way) is
a couple of things:
closures, slightly cleaner than inner classes in Java
can you define what you mean by 'metaprogramming' in this context?
On Sep 16, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Dan Haywood wrote:
Hi all, first post!
Since we have knowledgeable people responding on another thread about
JavaFX, I have another question, namely, is there any way to do
metaprogramming in
Where coin went a bit wrong, I think, is in how you required more work
from the community than what you require internally. I presume when
(outside of coin) sun employees decide on java features to add to the
language, they first do some analysis of which ones are worth it, pick
one, nail
When performance testing the client JRE we do two things which seem to
help:
1) check out both the latest and your older / baseline releases of
your code. Test them *both*. This lets you plot how you have improved,
regardless of what computer your tests are running on. It's also the
only
you think that for certain situations,
throwing away results that might be affected by start-up times is
the exact wrong thing to do?
Alexey
From: Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org
To: javaposse@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:43:06 AM
Subject: [The Java Posse
There is however, a very big difference between looking at a language
change from the perspective of a language implementor vs a language
user. In any case, I look forward to our discussion!
And I look forward to listening!
- Joe (the other Joe)
On Sep 2, 8:44 pm, jddarcy
Cross compiling your language into Objective C (which is what all of
these iPhone solutions do, even the Java one (yes, there is one)) is
light years away from creating a browser plugin for Mobile Safari.
On Sep 14, 2009, at 4:17 AM, Casper Bang wrote:
Why the grain of salt? For a while
outside the code system (ie: the database). What if you could mark
some blocks as locked so that they wouldn't be refactorable and would
give you a warning when you try to do so. You could still unlock it if
you decide it's what you really want to do, but this gives you
protection against
to do with each other except that it was historically
convenient.
- J
On Sep 14, 2009, at 12:47 AM, Vince O'Sullivan wrote:
On Sep 13, 10:20 pm, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote:
* inline unit tests. Why are your unit tests in a separate class. It
should be easy to put the test
as if you don't have a team trying to get
JavaFX up and running on the iPhone.
I can only say this: JavaFX not being on an iPhone has never been a
technical issue
/Casper
On 14 Sep., 16:36, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote:
You said the first browser RIA plugin to be supported
On Sep 14, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Fabrizio Giudici wrote:
Joshua Marinacci wrote:
You said the first browser RIA plugin to be supported on the
iPhone.
I'm saying that what they are doing won't make it happen.
Yes, it's possible to build a pure Java app that you can install on
non-hacked
to
eventually offer Silverligt on the iPhone. Do you plan on offering
JavaFX there?
/Casper
On 14 Sep., 14:16, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote:
Cross compiling your language into Objective C (which is what all of
these iPhone solutions do, even the Java one (yes, there is one
Both Java and C# (as well as many other JVM CLR based languages) can
be compiled directly to machine code . There have been attempts to do
so since the early days of Java.
However, there is a *reason* why these approaches are rarely used in
production anymore. The assumed speed gains
I just read through the link you sent. Interesting stuff.
Yes, it's true that the CLR (which is what they are talking about, not
C# the language, when referring to JIT stuff) was designed to be only
JITed not interpreted; whereas Java was originally designed for more
constrained devices
just
happen to like elements from both. :)
/Casper
On 14 Sep., 22:03, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote:
I just read through the link you sent. Interesting stuff.
Yes, it's true that the CLR (which is what they are talking about,
not
C# the language, when referring to JIT stuff
Also try www.jfxstudio.org, which is a site full of javafx doodles
that various people have created (and a good place to show off your
own stuff too).
We just started our monthly coding contest back up as well. Do
something cool in only 30 lines of code. The deadline is the end of
usually preferred spaces instead of tabs, but tabs would
make it easier to make sure that the statements stay lined up. In
fact, using tabs explicitly expresses the intent for them to line
up.)
-Brian
On Sep 9, 11:10 pm, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote:
RANT!
Why, in the 21st
Where are you finding these examples? The do keyword was removed from
the language over 18 months ago. The best samples are at
www.javafx.com/samples
since they are always kept up to date.
The up to date language spec is here:
Joshua Marinacci wrote:
RANT!
Why, in the 21st century, are we still writing code with ascii
symbols
in text editors, and worried about the exact indentation and whether
to use tabs, spaces, etc?!!
Since the IDE knows the structure of our code, why aren't we just
sharing ASTs directly, letting
On Sep 10, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Ben Schulz wrote:
Youv'e got to write IDE support for this. Building this new language
requires also building an IDE plugin that understands it.
And that probably explains why it hasn't been done before, a chicken
and egg problem.
Ah, but it has been done
yep. Essentially these are all things which IDEs and addon tools are
trying to do today, but do imperfectly because they are operating on
an array of ascii text (or unicode if it's Java). As always, getting
from here to there is the hard part. :)
On Sep 10, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Casper Bang
!
On Sep 10, 4:49 pm, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote:
I suspect you are right. I've asked this question of many people and
gotten a variety of reasons why it won't work. They reasons are
always
valid, but they always boil down to the same thing: compatibility
with existing systems
that's an interesting article. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one
who's thought of this. That shows it's not crazy, just very hard to do
(for compatibility reasons as he states).
Still, I think one day we will move towards this. I can't imagine the
computer in the Starship Enterprise
that gives me a sad
On Sep 9, 2009, at 9:15 AM, Casper Bang wrote:
Plus it's uniform!
Well the old Sun conventions tried to. Funny enough, I have not seen
code like this:
switch(myInteger){
case 65:{
// Handle int = 65
}
}
/Casper
RANT!
Why, in the 21st century, are we still writing code with ascii symbols
in text editors, and worried about the exact indentation and whether
to use tabs, spaces, etc?!!
Since the IDE knows the structure of our code, why aren't we just
sharing ASTs directly, letting your IDE format it
Hi guys. I've announced the theme for this months' coding challenge:
Time.
http://jfxstudio.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/jfxstudio-challenge-theme-revealed/
I hope I can get some of the Java Posse listeners to use their mad
skillz to build some cool in only 30 lines of code.
Thanks,
J
It's also important to point out that the compiler rejects null for a
Boolean because null simply isn't a valid value for a boolean (in the
abstract mathematical sense of 'boolean'). Booleans can be true or
false. That's it. The compiler rejects anything else. The same for
Numbers. The
need @Nullable Boolean to tell the JavaFX
compiler that
Joshua Marinacci wrote:
It's also important to point out that the compiler rejects null
for a
Boolean because null simply isn't a valid value for a boolean
(in the
abstract mathematical sense of 'boolean'). Booleans can be true
Thanks Joe. I appreciate this response. Any chance we can get a blog
on it to spread around?
On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:44 PM, jddarcy wrote:
After listening to episode 277, I'm led to conclude I'm thought of by
some as one of the ivory tower guys who just says no to ideas
about changing the
Hi guys. With JavaFX 1.2 out the door and the summer almost over we
thought it was high time to have another coding challenge at the JFX
Studio (www.jfxstudio.org). This time we are going to try something
different. Harkening back to the demo scene of old, this month’s
challenge is to
+1
always consider your end goal first, then find the license that meets
your need. For example, almost all of the open source projects I work
on have the underlying goal of getting people to do more interesting
things with Java. This means I want to code shared as far and wide as
BSD all the way
On Aug 26, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote:
Thanks ! That's indeed the kind of accessible explanations I am
looking for.
What would be the logical choice for a care-free open source project ?
Everybody can use it, modify it, bla bla bla and the usage is your
sole
Now before you heckle me or throw out 20 different frameworks, let me
explain in greater detail what I mean (and if such a thing exists).
Suppose I want to create a webservice which lets a client app store a
single key / value pair. In about 5 minutes I could could write a
servlet that
http://www.welie.com/patterns/
http://ui-patterns.com/
great resources
On Aug 18, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote:
Hello guys,
I'm asked to rework a search input screen with way too many input
controls to fit on a screen. I was wondering whether this would the
occasion to apply
For being written in the early 90s I think the std libs are pretty
good. By comparison the C world was still using things like creat
(ENDLESS_CONSTANTS_YOU_CANT_REMEMBER_HERE). The bar on standard libs
has been raised in the last 15+ years *because* the Java runtime was
so good.
A lot of
JavaFX provides a new language, a new media stack, and a new
scenegraph. While it is built on top of the Java runtime I wouldn't
use the word 'just'j any more than I'd say that JRuby is 'just a
library' or Eclipse. JavaFX adds quite a lot. It does currently use
Java2D underneath but that
and JavaFX is the 302Mb version on that
page. Other than that, you have to download an approximation of what
you want and then fiddle around (linux style) with it to get what you
really want.
On Jul 28, 5:57 pm, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote:
there is no 300m one as far as I can see
I've always thought of Java as the C of the JVM because it's the
mother language. It's the language that most libs are written in and
it the set of APIs that all other languages have access to. In the
same way that all Unix languages can call down to the common C based
libraries. It is
Have you looked into MigLayout? It's pretty sweet.
On Jul 27, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Mikael Grev wrote:
The only sensible thing they can do for JavaFX is to add:
1) One kick-ass designer that is better than Matisse
2) One kick-ass manual layout manager
3) An easy and predictable way to move
Fabrizio is correct. Technically JavaFX code will run on any Java 1.5
runtime. We use 1.5 bytecode and the internal usage of 1.6 api will
correctly degrade. However, the user experience is vastly better on
recent versions of 1.6, so we encourage it's use. I believe (though I
haven't
level stuff, and it
really interests me.)
Is the bytecode that is generated just told to go get the codecs from
the JavaFX runtime, if so, wouldn't that be a compiler
implementation?
Cheers,
Mark
On Jul 24, 1:22 am, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote:
Fabrizio is correct
kenai:
No continues build integration yet (rumor is that it is planned).
It was officially announced at JavaOne. I don't think it's live yet,
but it's definitely not a rumor.
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devices are still having a lot of issues syncing.
This is one case where I really wish Apple would support its
hardware better and have a version of iTunes for Linux. I'm sure
they'd rather have people buy new Mac hardware instead!
--Ryan
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Joshua Marinacci
I think songbird can sync iPods
- Josh, on the go
On Jul 13, 2009, at 11:59 AM, E Winter ejwin...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a good way to get iTunes port on Linux yet mainly for ipod
and iphone syncing? That would be a biggie for me to recommend Linux
or even Chrome to 'grandma'. Almost
I think it's because Mac's aren't an OS. They are a software/hardware
combo, all provided by the same vendor. Thus all of the built in
hardware is guaranteed to work because it's built by the same company.
True, there are peripherals, but it's less critical than it is for
Windows.
I'm glad to see that people have noticed the JavaFX improvements. The
team has an incredible amount of focus. We know what we want JavaFX to
be and we also know what we *don't* want it to be, which has been
incredibly liberating and lets us work quickly. I've never seen the
Java client
is being picked up by JavaFX. I
hope so anyway. :)
/Casper
On 11 Jul., 01:27, Joshua Marinacci jos...@gmail.com wrote:
Ah. One of our goals with JavaFX is to make it tool friendly but you
should still be able to do everything cleanly at the code level. The
APIs and language (JavaFX Script) were
HTML only apps will be awesome. They will be the only thing you need.
No native apps at all. Just like the iPhone. It shipped with only HTML
apps and that's all that ever people wanted. :)
On Jul 8, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Henrique de Miranda Gontijo wrote:
-- why would anyone want to live on the
btw. JavaFX is a client side technology. It can be easily integrated
with server side frameworks, even non Java based ones like wordpress
and drupal.
- j
On Jul 7, 2009, at 5:31 PM, Robert Mark Bram wrote:
Thanks Ugur,
take a look athttp://www.joomla.org
it's php-mysql based CMS, it
the easiest way to get something JavaFX related is to send it to me.
I'm always looking for cool JavaFX things to highlight on the JavaFX
blog and www.javafx.com.
- J
On Jul 2, 2009, at 1:41 AM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote:
That's what I thought too. My blog has been indexed automatically.
From
This is incorrect. There are over a billion installations of Java on
cellphones. Google has made J2ME based clients before Android and
continues to do so. If you want to hit more than 5% of the market you
have to use Java.
On Jul 1, 2009, at 5:24 AM, Casper Bang wrote:
I'm surprised I
Pointing out that Google also targets J2SE doesn't prove much, given
that they are also more than willing to make Obj-C clients for the
iPhone and other non-J2ME devices. Google is just like that, they go
after the marked and tries to win the hart of users regardless of
underlying
actually USES their Symbian phone
for anything but calls and messages (I have yet to meet one). I think
it's naïve to care only for such a marketing metric, but if that's
your definition of popularity then so be it. :)
/Casper
On 1 Jul., 17:51, Joshua Marinacci jos...@gmail.com wrote:
Pointing
I don't think the Hero version is unofficial. I'm pretty sure Adobe
worked very closely with HTC to port it to their device.
On Jun 30, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Casper Bang wrote:
Right, I didn't mean to suggest loading ROM's are the way to go in
general - that is not the open part of Android
Note that JavaFX is currently supported in 6.5.1, not 6.7, but is
coming soon.
http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2009-06/sunflash.20090629.1.xml
- j
On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Jason Whaley wrote:
http://www.netbeans.org/index.html
I've been using the Beta and Release Candidates for a
On Jun 29, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Alexey Zinger wrote:
I don't know if the jar duplication problem is that compelling
overall. Even several megabytes of duplicated jar's seems like a
drop in the bucket these days.
It may be trivial for server side apps where an admin downloads and
preps
that would result in
the same speedup in the current JVM? In theory, class loaders only
load what's necessary already, no?
Alexey
From: Joshua Marinacci jos...@gmail.com
To: javaposse@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:09:30 PM
Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: more jigsaw vs osgi vs
: Joshua Marinacci jos...@gmail.com
To: javaposse@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:23:01 PM
Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: more jigsaw vs osgi vs javaposse
modularity is part of that refactoring.
we define modules for each major component of the JRE. then we start
moving code
With the new plugin Java and JavaFX applets can easily interoperate
with the DOM. You can call javascript from java and vice versa. It's
quite nice!
On Jun 27, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Alexey Zinger wrote:
I have to disagree regarding GWT. I've been using it extensively on
new and legacy web
give it a try. The browser plugin has made huge strides in the past
year.
re Joshua: yeah I like that idea. Years ago I wanted to do that with
applets and live connect but it wasn't easy, I do like the promise
of it now - but the problem is its still a promise, its a risk to take
over
vs the javaposse? the java posse has their own modules proposal?
awesome! will it support groovy?
On Jun 26, 2009, at 2:24 PM, phil.swen...@gmail.com wrote:
http://modualrit.blogspot.com/2009/06/jigsaw-posse.html
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snippets might also help to encourage
participation and of course, there might be a suitable summer of code
style project in there for someone.
-phil
On Jun 11, 4:31 am, Joshua Marinacci jos...@gmail.com wrote:
Do any of you actually use the Gimp? I don't need everyone's
usability
I understand what I would
need to develop in JavaFX yet?!
On Jun 18, 5:48 am, Joshua Marinacci jos...@gmail.com wrote:
:) the product doesn't have a final name yet, so we are just calling
it the designer tool because it's targeted at designers.
On Jun 17, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Victor Grazi
, or complementary? I'm not sure I understand what I would
need to develop in JavaFX yet?!
On Jun 18, 5:48 am, Joshua Marinacci jos...@gmail.com wrote:
:) the product doesn't have a final name yet, so we are just
calling
it the designer tool because it's targeted at designers.
On Jun 17
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