Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-15 Thread James Melin
Subject Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9 Please respond

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-15 Thread Tom Shilson
/2006 02:28 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9 Novell can't even find the ticket # I gave you that we filed this under? Tom Shilson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-15 Thread James Melin
Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU I don't know what they are doing. I opened the incident on-line yesterday. They came right back and request more info. I

Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Wheeler
under z/VM 5.2 on a z9-109), with enough storage defined so the file could be completely cached. I then FTP'd it to /dev/null on another server over a hipersocket connection. Here's what I observed: SLES8-to-SLES8, MTU=8184, ~75 MB/sec SLES8-to-SLES8, MTU=32760, ~100 MB/sec (as high as 132 MB/sec

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-14 Thread James Melin
Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Greetings all, I've been using real hipersockets for a couple years now. Recently a significant

Re: simple hipersocket communication between LPARS, pls help

2006-04-30 Thread Post, Mark K
(distribution dependent, unfortunately) to make the change permanent. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:58 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: simple hipersocket communication

Re: simple hipersocket communication between LPARS, pls help

2006-04-30 Thread Post, Mark K
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fuhrmann Anna Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:33 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: AW: simple hipersocket communication between LPARS, pls help -snip- But how can I find out - well, just what you say

simple hipersocket communication between LPARS, pls help

2006-04-26 Thread Fuhrmann Anna
Hi List, I simply don't know how to figure it out. Two partitions (z/os and RHEL4) involved. want to communicate. One interface is OSA Express, working fine, VIPA- and omproute-configured. The other one should be hipersocket, no need for VIPA and for dynamic routing, as far as I see

Re: simple hipersocket communication between LPARS, pls help

2006-04-26 Thread Vic Cross
system that has VIPA and OSPF, or both z/OS and Linux? The other one should be hipersocket, no need for VIPA and for dynamic routing, as far as I see. What I don't quite see at the moment: how do I *prevent* the z/os- LPAR from choosing the usual way (of being routed): is it by defining a static

AW: simple hipersocket communication between LPARS, pls help

2006-04-26 Thread Fuhrmann Anna
of it. What I don't quite see at the moment: how do I *prevent* the z/os- LPAR from choosing the usual way (of being routed): is it by defining a static route for the hipersocket interface in the Profile-dataset? BSDROUTINGPARMS or BEGINROUTES or whatever? Defining a static route is one

AW: simple hipersocket communication between LPARS, pls help

2006-04-26 Thread Fuhrmann Anna
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Vic Cross *EXTERN* Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. April 2006 13:15 An: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: Re: simple hipersocket communication between LPARS, pls help G'day Anna, On 26/04/2006, at 5:43 pm

Re: AW: simple hipersocket communication between LPARS, pls help

2006-04-26 Thread Steve Gentry
on VM and the other an OSA card for Java apps. running on WAS servers, etc. Each access point has a unique IP address. i.e. the OSA has it's own ip addr and the hipersocket (hsi0) has its own unique ip addr. We then used which ever ip addr depending on how we needed to access the UDB. Hope

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-26 Thread Lee Stewart
NEED to have the z/OS people involved also. Lee David Boyes wrote: As David Boyes said, it should be simple. And it is if all is setup right... In a nutshell: - turn on IP forwarding in the router - add a route on z/OS to the guest LAN subnet via the router IP on the hipersocket - add

Re: simple hipersocket communication between LPARS, pls help

2006-04-26 Thread David Boyes
What I don't quite see at the moment: how do I *prevent* the z/os- LPAR from choosing the usual way (of being routed): is it by defining a static route for the hipersocket interface in the Profile-dataset? BSDROUTINGPARMS or BEGINROUTES or whatever? Yes. See the paper I posted last night

Re: simple hipersocket communication between LPARS, pls help

2006-04-26 Thread David Boyes
, and not the VIPA-Address of z/OS? So that every conversation from-Linux-to-z/os and back explicitly uses the HSI-Address? Unless you defined a specific VIPA for two hipersocket interfaces, then yes. Another tip: PLEASE set up DNS entries for the different interfaces and make the applications refer

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-26 Thread David Boyes
Yeah, I'm just not that good of an artist...8-)(*) I left that part out to simplify the configuration somewhat, but the important parts are the layer 3 routing issues. The VSWITCH is a layer 2 device, so whether the connection is inside or outside the zSeries box isn't important to the routing

Re: AW: simple hipersocket communication between LPARS, pls help

2006-04-26 Thread Vic Cross
On 26/04/2006, at 9:51 pm, Fuhrmann Anna wrote: (in reply to me saying) file called route-hsi0 to be created also in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts ? Yes, sorry, I distracted myself checking the answer and forgot to give it! :) I also forgot to mention that if you do nothing else other

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-25 Thread Lee Stewart
on the MVS side of the hipersocket was setup wrong. So even when the VM/Linux side was working right, MVS never answered because of the bad routing there. (And I apologize to all for some cut-n-paste in the original notes that muddied the water a bit.) Thanks again to all... Lee -- Lee Stewart, Senior

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-25 Thread Tim Hare
Lee - would you mind giving the list a (simplified) diagram of both sides, or copies of various settings in TCP/IP and/or z/OS (minus anything too uncomfortable for your organization to reveal of course)? might be instructive to others to see where things have to be set, where they have to match,

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-25 Thread Lee Stewart
As David Boyes said, it should be simple. And it is if all is setup right... In a nutshell: - turn on IP forwarding in the router - add a route on z/OS to the guest LAN subnet via the router IP on the hipersocket - add a route on the Linux guests to the hipersocket subnet via

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-25 Thread David Boyes
As David Boyes said, it should be simple. And it is if all is setup right... I'm hacking out a short whitepaper that is a generalized version of this setup. I'll post it later this week. -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe /

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-25 Thread David Boyes
As David Boyes said, it should be simple. And it is if all is setup right... In a nutshell: - turn on IP forwarding in the router - add a route on z/OS to the guest LAN subnet via the router IP on the hipersocket - add a route on the Linux guests to the hipersocket subnet

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-14 Thread Lee Stewart
OK, I went back to the device drivers book only. (Same steps as the SHARE presentation).. I do have a layer3 QDIO guest LAN.. For a router or the Hipersocket Network Concentrator thhe book says to issue the following to the hipersocket device: echo primary_connector /sys/bus/ccwgroup/drivers

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-14 Thread David Boyes
Keep in mind: a hipersocket and a OSA are NOT the same beast -- they both use QDIO to deliver frames to the media, but the similarity stops there. Some things just don't work on hipersockets -- for example, hipersockets don't have that silly PRI/SECROUTER thing, so they *should* return an error

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 04/14/2006 at 12:11 CST, Lee Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I went back to the device drivers book only. (Same steps as the SHARE presentation).. I do have a layer3 QDIO guest LAN.. For a router or the Hipersocket Network Concentrator thhe book says to issue the following

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-14 Thread Post, Mark K
According to page 102 of the book, you use primary_connector to tell the OSA interface you're routing between it an a HiperSocket network. You use multicast_router to tell the HiperSockets the same thing. In the section you're working from, they're doing the opposite. They seem to have

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 04/11/2006 at 05:44 CST, Lee Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since z/OS is more difficult to get changes made on, we went with a definintion that's already there... It has a hipersocket defined with IP address 192.168.11.10 and a mask of 255.255.255.0. We have the 192.168.11.0

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-12 Thread James Melin
Shouldn't you just be able to create a guest LAN/vswitch that uses a hipersocket device group on VM as the interface and then present that to each linux guest as device 9200 or somesuch? That way all the traffic on the hipersocket is handled by VM, and all the linux guests can talk

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-12 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 4/12/06, James Melin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shouldn't you just be able to create a guest LAN/vswitch that uses a hipersocket device group on VM as the interface and then present that to each No, VSWITCH requires an OSA Express interface to go out, not hipersockets. But I do agree

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 04/12/2006 at 09:10 EST, James Melin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shouldn't you just be able to create a guest LAN/vswitch that uses a hipersocket device group on VM as the interface and then present that to each linux guest as device 9200 or somesuch? That way all the traffic

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-12 Thread David Boyes
Shouldn't you just be able to create a guest LAN/vswitch that uses a hipersocket device group on VM as the interface and then present that to each linux guest as device 9200 or somesuch? That way all the traffic on the hipersocket is handled by VM, and all the linux guests can talk

Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-11 Thread Lee Stewart
Hi all... Sorry if this is kind of long winded... Also forgive me, I'm sometimes lost (pun intended) when it comes to IP routing... I have a client with a fair number of Linux guests that we want to connect each via hipersocket to a z/OS LPAR... For flexibility (and other reasons), we don't

Re: Linux as a hipersocket router...

2006-04-11 Thread David Boyes
And from the router I can ping both z/OS and the Linux guest, so the basic connection and routing seems to be there... And following the instructions in the device drivers manual and in a SHARE pitch, I turned on IP forwarding. That should be sufficient. If you enable IP forwarding, you

Large MTU Sizes (was Re: Hipersocket stopped)

2006-04-01 Thread Mark Wheeler
seen this problem? Has it been fixed? I've been running my hipersocket (and CTC) interfaces with MTU=32760. Should I start reconfiguring them all back to 8K? (8184?) Most of our servers are SLES8, just starting to roll out SLES9. Mark Wheeler, 3M Company

Hipersocket stopped

2006-03-29 Thread Kenneth Libutti
We have a Hipersocket defined between two guests. It has stopped working on one of the guests. I have deleted the configuration and recreated it and ran mkinitrd. We have also rebooted the guest. Below is the config file for the failing interface: BOOTPROTO='static' BROADCAST='10.14.1.255

Re: Hipersocket stopped

2006-03-29 Thread David Kreuter
What are the addresses of the hipersockets in the failing machine? Being QDIO I believe that the hipersocket low order address needs to be even. It should be a triplet of even (read) even+1(write) available address(date transfer) David Kenneth Libutti wrote: We have a Hipersocket defined

Re: Hipersocket stopped

2006-03-29 Thread David Kreuter
Also you describe hipersockets between two guests. Are these guests on the same LPAR? Is the hipersocket being used by different LPARs? David Kenneth Libutti wrote: We have a Hipersocket defined between two guests. It has stopped working on one of the guests. I have deleted the configuration

Re: Hipersocket stopped

2006-03-29 Thread Kenneth Libutti
The guests are on the same LPAR but we do have the Hipersocket connected to a third vse machine in another LPAR and that connection is functioning. The addresses for the failing hipersocket are F509 F50A F50B. Ken Libutti CNE, CNI, SCSA, RHCT Asst. Director of Systems Services Broward Community

Re: Hipersocket stopped

2006-03-29 Thread Tom Shilson
Just out of curiosity, what is the MTU size? Thanks, tom - - - - - - - - - - - - Toto, I have a feeling we're not in the mainframe world any more. _/) Tom Shilson ~Unix Team / IT Server Services Aloha Tel: 651-733-7591 tshilson at mmm dot

Re: Hipersocket stopped

2006-03-29 Thread Kenneth Libutti
ifconfig -a from non-working interface: hsi0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet addr:10.14.1.4 Bcast:10.14.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::200:ff:fe00:0/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:57344 Metric:1

Re: z/OS tcp/ip stack definitions for hipersocket

2005-11-17 Thread Post, Mark K
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: z/OS tcp/ip stack definitions for hipersocket The results of a netstat on z/os showed me that while the actMtu is 8192 while under BSD Routing Parameters it shows an MTU Size of 00576. Question: Does this mean z/OS tcp/ip is breaking 8 K packets into 576 byte units each

Hipersocket Frame size

2005-04-14 Thread Mark D Vandale
the hipersocket definitions ? I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks, Mark Vandale -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http

Re: The way to add new NIC for Hipersocket.

2005-04-10 Thread Rob van der Heij
could ATTACH the 3 hipersocket devices to the virtual machine while it is running (which happens automatically when you logon the virtual machine because of the dedicate statements in the directory). In that case you don't even have to reboot Linux to see it pick up the new devices. Rob -- Rob van der

Re: The way to add new NIC for Hipersocket.

2005-04-10 Thread mainframe_s390
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The way to add new NIC for Hipersocket.

2005-04-09 Thread mainframe_s390
Hi, all (B (BI want to add a new NIC for HiperSocket. (BNow, my environment is below. (B (Bz890 has 2LAPRs. (BLPAR-A has lpar linux SLES9(Linux-A). (BLPAR-B has z/VM V5.1. (Bz/VM has two Guest SLES9s. (Linux-B, Linux-C) (B (BI want to add a NIC for HiperSocket on Linux-B. (BI tried

Re: The way to add new NIC for Hipersocket.

2005-04-09 Thread David Kreuter
How did you add it to the directory? In this case you are using a real hipersocket so you will need DEDICATE statements in your directory or ATTACH commands from a class B need to be issued. While you can consider the virtual addresses as NICs, they ar more like a set of devices

Re: The way to add new NIC for Hipersocket.

2005-04-09 Thread mainframe_s390
Hi, David (B (B1) (BI added to USER DIRECT as below (BDEDICATE 2000 2000 (BDEDICATE 2001 2001 (BDEDICATE 2002 2002 (B (B2) (BDevice Address 2000-200F is assigned to HiperSocket. (BOf cause I added to definition for HiperSocket to IOCDS. (B (B3) (BAnd SLES9 was rebooted.(to reload

Re: Change IP address for Hipersocket

2005-01-24 Thread Sam Cohen
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Re: Change IP address for Hipersocket

2005-01-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sunday, 01/23/2005 at 11:39 PST, Ranga Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to change the IP address for a hipersocket interface for z/VM itself. ifconfig hiperlec newip does not work. I tried it from MAINT and from TCPMAINT. When I issue ifconfig HIPERLEC down ifconfig HIPERLEC

Re: Change IP address for Hipersocket

2005-01-24 Thread Ranga Nathan
IP address for Hipersocket You don't need to bounce TCPIP. Logon to TCPMAINT, create a temporary file on TCPMAINT's A=disk with filetype TCPIP (for example, file CHGHOME TCPIP A) enter ALL of the HOME statements from PROFILE.TCPIP (starting with the HOME keyword) then issue the command

Change IP address for Hipersocket

2005-01-23 Thread Ranga Nathan
I need to change the IP address for a hipersocket interface for z/VM itself. ifconfig hiperlec newip does not work. I tried it from MAINT and from TCPMAINT. When I issue ifconfig HIPERLEC down ifconfig HIPERLEC 192.168.1.250 ifconfig HIPERLEC up all commands are accepted but the change

Re: Hipersocket - qdio error messages

2005-01-07 Thread Post, Mark K
Hugo, If you're talking to a _real_ HiperSocket, and not a virtual one, then z/VM TCP/IP doesn't have anything to do with it. You should just be able to set up your IP addresses and routes and it should all just work. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Hipersocket - qdio error messages

2005-01-05 Thread Post, Mark K
, January 05, 2005 3:29 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Hipersocket - qdio error messages Hello list - I'm trying to connect a Linux (z/VM guest) server with a z/OS LPAR via HiprSockets and I'm getting the following error messages when I reboot the Linux server. I can't ping from Linux to z/OS

Hipersocket MTU invalid argument SLES 9

2004-11-01 Thread Seader, Cameron
Greetings, I am getting an error when starting my hipersocket up. SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument Why am i getting this error, shouldn't it take '65535' as a valid mtu size? I never had this problem on SLES 8, did something change? I'm also noticeing that my mtu is being dropped to 57344

Re: Hipersocket MTU invalid argument SLES 9

2004-11-01 Thread Miguel Diaz
on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/2004 08:56 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Hipersocket MTU invalid argument SLES 9 Greetings, I am getting an error when starting my hipersocket up. SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument Why am i getting this error

Re: Hipersocket MTU invalid argument SLES 9

2004-11-01 Thread Seader, Cameron
ok, now i understand thank you for the info. -Cameron -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Musselwhite Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 08:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hipersocket MTU invalid argument SLES 9 From Cameron Seader

Re: Hipersocket MTU invalid argument SLES 9

2004-11-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 11/01/2004 at 08:42 MST, Seader, Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is that? i was able to do 64k on SLES 8 Actually, Cameron, you were not. HiperSockets are physically incapable of handling an MTU larger than 56K. You may have *specified* 64K, but you didn't *get* 64K. Alan

Re: Hipersocket MTU invalid argument SLES 9

2004-11-01 Thread Seader, Cameron
yeah i think you are right. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 09:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hipersocket MTU invalid argument SLES 9 On Monday, 11/01/2004 at 08:42 MST, Seader, Cameron

HiperSocket setup

2004-10-05 Thread Mike Lovins
I have configured my Linux running on my IBM Z800 to use HiperSocket to my z/VM machine. The VM machine apears to be configured correctly and the hardward configuration apears to be configured correctly. When I boot my Linux system I get the following messages on the console -- qeth: Trying

Re: HiperSocket setup

2004-10-05 Thread Seader, Cameron
Does the divice show up in your chandev -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Lovins Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 09:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HiperSocket setup I have configured my Linux running on my IBM Z800 to use HiperSocket

Re: HiperSocket setup

2004-10-05 Thread Post, Mark K
, October 05, 2004 11:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HiperSocket setup I have configured my Linux running on my IBM Z800 to use HiperSocket to my z/VM machine. The VM machine apears to be configured correctly and the hardward configuration apears to be configured correctly. When I boot my Linux

Re: Hipersocket setup

2004-10-05 Thread James Melin
I presume you have defined the hipersocket interface to your Linux? When you issue an ifconfig command do you get something like this back? hsi1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet addr:192.168.252.12 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::200:ff:fe00:0/64

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-06-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
Alan Cox wrote: The disk to disk aspect is distorting but he's using similar tests for each case. In many case disk to disk is the right way to test anyway, its what you actually do in the real world. ttcp can do similar testing without the disk layer being involved if that matters. The closer a

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-06-04 Thread Lucius, Leland
hipersocket testing/benchmarking need help interpreting results. Do a short transfer and tcpdump it. Look at the window size offered by the server in the syn frame, that is a good guide to the buffering. Got a window of 32767 from Linux to z/OS and 65535 from z/OS to Linux using lukemftp

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-06-03 Thread Alan Cox
On Gwe, 2004-05-28 at 18:13, Lucius, Leland wrote: Yepper, it does. I'm currently running with a 56KB MTU (on z/OS side) and have tried lower. Never could get the FTP up very high. I even transferred files between a TFS under z/OS and an ram disk under Linux. Thought it might be I/O

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-06-03 Thread Lucius, Leland
Specifically ftp ? The reason I ask is that the old BSD ftp client always set 8K buffer limits and many vendors who reused the BSD client code in other products never got around to fixing that. Linux has it fixed, I'd have assumed z/Os did but you never know.. Hmmm, good point. Let me

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-06-03 Thread Alan Cox
On Gwe, 2004-05-28 at 20:43, Janek Jakubek wrote: We had a TCPIP performance issue when we upgraded from OS/390 2.7 to 2.10. The conclusion of that the problem is attached below (from an IBM ETR record). This could be another lead to follow Except that the problem occurs with an 8K MTU

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-06-03 Thread Mike Caughran
- Original Message - From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking need help interpreting results. On Gwe, 2004-05-28 at 20:04, James Tison wrote: FTP is a __TERRIBLE__

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-06-03 Thread Lucius, Leland
Hmmm, good point. Let me see if I can play with the buffer size under z/OS. Well, I can set the default TCP buffer size to different values for the z/OS stack and we have it set to 65535, so I'd say it's on the largish size. But, I don't know if the FTP server issues a setsockopt() to set a

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-06-03 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2004-06-03 at 22:26, Lucius, Leland wrote: Well, I can set the default TCP buffer size to different values for the z/OS stack and we have it set to 65535, so I'd say it's on the largish size. But, I don't know if the FTP server issues a setsockopt() to set a different value or not.

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-06-03 Thread Lucius, Leland
Do a short transfer and tcpdump it. Look at the window size offered by the server in the syn frame, that is a good guide to the buffering. Got a window of 32767 from Linux to z/OS and 65535 from z/OS to Linux using lukemftp. Must dash right now, but it appears that changing the sndbuf size in

Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread James Melin
To preface this, this all started when our z/OS tcp/ip person tested z/OS to z/OS hipersocket performance and found it nearly the same as using GBE osa connection. I immediately went 'huh' and went on to get hipersockets configured in the z/VM Linux guests. I then ran some testing after doing so

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Lucius, Leland
125 Storing data set /it/public/Su810_001.iso 100% |*| 595 MB2.68 MB/s--:-- ETA 250 Transfer completed successfully. 624885855 bytes sent in 03:41 (2.68 MB/s) Depressing isn't it? I've never been able to get much (or any) better than what you

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Lucius, Leland
Just a thought. Do you have to change the MTU size at all? I think it defaults on linux to 1500. Just a thought. Does the MTU size even play into the hipersockets at all? Yepper, it does. I'm currently running with a 56KB MTU (on z/OS side) and have tried lower. Never could get the

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 05/28/2004 at 12:13 EST, Lucius, Leland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yepper, it does. I'm currently running with a 56KB MTU (on z/OS side) and have tried lower. Never could get the FTP up very high. I even transferred files between a TFS under z/OS and an ram disk under Linux.

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread James Melin
cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Subject Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking need help 05/28/2004 11:46

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Ranga Nathan
I wonder if for some reason the 192.x address is NOT being used during FTP. Is there a confirmation that the transfer is actually going through the hipersocket? Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/2004 10:41 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread James Melin
hipersocket testing/benchmarking need help 05/28/2004 12:56 interpreting results. PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU I wonder

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Lucius, Leland
Ummm...you have to have the same MTU on both sides. Make sure you have MFS (OS= in IOCDS) at 64K. Oops, I did mislead with that didn't I? Sorry, 'bout that. Here's the interface: hsi0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet addr:10.2.32.30 Mask:255.255.255.0

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Post, Mark K
Of Lucius, Leland Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking need help interpreting results. -snip- Depressing isn't it? I've never been able to get much (or any) better than what you have. I don't know why either

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Post, Mark K
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking need help interpreting results. Well to check THAT particular item (on the z/linux to z/linux transfers anyway) I ipl'ed both guests to set the hsi1 tx/rx numbers back to 0, and then ran the test. When I

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Ledbetter, Scott E
] Subject: Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking need help interpreting results. So, what you're saying is that the problem isn't with Linux, or HiperSockets, or TCP/IP (as such) on z/OS, it is the z/OS implementation of FTP. Perhaps we just need a different/better tool to test

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Lucius, Leland
Maybe someone could try with NFS instead of FTP Is anyone running NFS over HiperSockets to z/OS??? I tried that as well. Unfortunately, I can't remember (and didn't write it down) the throughput. Let me see if I can get some #s real quick. Leland

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Post, Mark K
: Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking need help interpreting results. FYI the MTU size being used was 8192 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Lucius, Leland
Maybe someone could try with NFS instead of FTP Is anyone running NFS over HiperSockets to z/OS??? I tried that as well. Unfortunately, I can't remember (and didn't write it down) the throughput. Let me see if I can get some #s real quick. Okay, I NFS mounted an HFS directory

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread James Melin
The reason I say that is because the message I got from the FTP connect. Specifically: FTPD1 IBM FTP CS V1R4 at OWL0.CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US, 13:46:49 on 2004-05-28 I don't know if the FTP daemon is programmed to spit out the machine name, but the hipersocket address does NOT resolve to a DNS entry

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread James Tison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/2004 12:40 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking need help interpreting results. 125 Storing data set /it/public/Su810_001.iso 100

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Post, Mark K
: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking need help interpreting results. The 8192 MTU was used on ALL tests in my original post. So I cant see how it is the deciding issue. Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] m

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Michael Morgan
a time of close to zero other activity with the hipersocket subnets and the GBe subnets. Unfortunately, most of the results are gone, but I was not very impressed with either GBe or hipersockets. I tried many tests with different hipersocket chpids and found that the best hipersocket ftp

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Post, Mark K
Consider that a single TCP/IP instance can have many IP addresses. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Lucius, Leland
3.82KB/s??? Is that supposed to be MB/s Uh, can we all say...oops! ;-) Yes, that was supposed to be MB/s. Leland CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain proprietary and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Janek Jakubek
) for the hipersocket interface too. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread James Melin
Subject Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking need help 05/28/2004 02:07 interpreting results. PM Please

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 05/28/2004 at 03:19 EST, Lucius, Leland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can live with that. What is the theoritical maximum for a hipersocket? It's a function of microcode. The faster the processor, the faster it runs. Theoretically, of course. Alan Altmark Sr. Software Engineer IBM z

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread James Tison
What is the theoritical maximum for a hipersocket? To be honest (and embarassed), I have no clue. Maybe someone else does. Alan? --Jim-- James S. Tison Senior Software Engineer TPF Laboratory / Architecture IBM Corporation If dogs don't go to heaven, then, when I die, I want to go where they do

Re: Did some extensive hipersocket testing/benchmarking.... need help interpreting results.

2004-05-28 Thread Jeffrey Barnard
Alan, It's a function of microcode. The faster the processor, the faster it runs. Theoretically, of course. That sounds a lot like an 'It depends' answer. Hummm ... Maybe Bill is rubbing off on you ... ; Regards, Jeff -- Jeffrey C Barnard Barnard Software, Inc. http://www.bsiopti.com Phone

Re: Hipersocket performance

2003-10-19 Thread Lucius, Leland
SLES8A -- ZOS1 = ~56KB/sec!! If anyone is interested, I was able to increase this to around 55MB/sec by changing SLES8A's MTU to 20480. Anything higher and it drops back down to K/sec. I haven't had a chance to change the ZOS side yet. Leland CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:

Re: Hipersocket performance

2003-10-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 20:18, Lucius, Leland wrote: SLES8A -- ZOS1 = ~56KB/sec!! If anyone is interested, I was able to increase this to around 55MB/sec by changing SLES8A's MTU to 20480. Anything higher and it drops back down to K/sec. I haven't had a chance to

Re: Hipersocket performance

2003-10-19 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sunday, 10/19/2003 at 10:01 EST, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much does a large MTU actually help, even when everyone supports it? I usually leave mine at either 1492 or 1500, regardless of the allowable interface maximum, because there's often something in the path that

Re: Hipersocket performance

2003-10-19 Thread Vic Cross
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003, Adam Thornton wrote: How much does a large MTU actually help, even when everyone supports it? I think it has more to do with reducing processing overhead in your host systems than wringing the last bit out of your network. Increasing the MTU from 1500 to 2 (say) will

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