Re: [IFWP] Re: Kent's Rhetoric and Bombast - and ICANN the Scam..

2000-05-18 Thread Jeff Williams
Joe and all, How does Crispy-Songbird.god sound joe? ;) Oh yes, of course there are no trailing "-'s"... Is that ok with you Louis or Mike? !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2000, Jeff Williams wrote: As for Kent, well the bullshit flowith! Joe B. How about a .GOD special

Re: [IFWP] Re: Kent's Rhetoric and Bombast - and ICANN the Scam..

2000-05-18 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
Shall I register it in your name Jeff? Or in crispies name? Someone has already register icann.god. http://god.pccf.net/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?icann.god Regards Joe Baptista On Thu, 18 May 2000, Jeff Williams wrote: Joe and all, How does Crispy-Songbird.god sound joe? ;) Oh yes, of

Re: [IFWP] Re: Kent's Rhetoric and Bombast - and ICANN the Scam..

2000-05-18 Thread Jeff Williams
Joe and all, Sure, that would be fine. Send me the bill. And than I will grant it to either Kent or a worthy non-profit sunrise +20 supporter organization. By the way does Sunrise +20 work with your .GOD TLD as a policy Joe? I hope not. But if so, randomly select the best 20 possibilities

Re: [IFWP] Re: Kent's Rhetoric and Bombast - and ICANN the Scam..

2000-05-18 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Jeff Williams wrote: Joe and all, Sure, that would be fine. Send me the bill. And than I will grant it to either Kent or a worthy non-profit sunrise +20 supporter organization. By the way does Sunrise +20 work with your .GOD TLD as a policy Joe? I hope not.

Re: [IFWP] Re: Kent's Rhetoric and Bombast - and ICANN the Scam..

2000-05-18 Thread Jeff Williams
Joe and all, Ok thank you Joe. ;) !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2000, Jeff Williams wrote: Joe and all, Sure, that would be fine. Send me the bill. And than I will grant it to either Kent or a worthy non-profit sunrise +20 supporter organization. By the way does

Re: [IFWP] Re: Kent's Rhetoric and Bombast - and ICANN the Scam..

2000-05-18 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
Sorry Jeff - forgot to address the rest of your question. I've been busy with people sending in so many queries to dot.god. On Thu, 18 May 2000, Jeff Williams wrote: By the way does Sunrise +20 work with your .GOD TLD as a policy Joe? That does not work with .GOD. Were not having any of

[IFWP] Re: Give it up, Please!! (fwd)

2000-05-18 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
A censored communication of interest to all of us in tld's. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:11:23 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CENSORED Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Give it up, Please!! Hello: The article fails to mention the history of this

[IFWP] Re: reporter query (fwd)

2000-05-18 Thread Joe Baptista
I love being difficult and frankly we've had enough press for today. My mother has advised me its one of the things I do well - apart from bringing her endless joy and entertainment. Of course, as usual, names have been censored to protect the innocent. Regards Joe Baptista --

Re: [IFWP] Re: Kent's Rhetoric and Bombast - and ICANN the Scam..

2000-05-18 Thread Jeff Williams
Joe and all, Thank you Joe for addressing my question so promptly and directly. We [INEGroup] are pleased to see that sunrise +20 is not to become a policy with the .GOD gTLD. I hope that the DOC/NTIA and ICANN can take a lesson from this wise and stability minded decision. !Dr. Joe Baptista

[IFWP] Re: reporter query (fwd)

2000-05-18 Thread Joe Baptista
More censored reporter stuff. Good for discussion. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 13:25:24 -0400 (EDT) From: !Dr. Joe Baptista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CENSORED Subject: Re: reporter query On Thu, 18 May 2000, CENSORED wrote: Just some general questions if you

[IFWP] Re: Kent's Rhetoric and Bombast - and ICANN the Scam..

2000-05-18 Thread Greg Skinner
John the Repoman wrote: P.S.: I wonder how much it would cost to mail every domain(s) registrant in the world a brief opinion questionaire (even by snail mail (argh)- postcard even - no ppd return envelope necessary) on major issues under consideration by ICANN to get a feel for the

Re: [IFWP] Re: Kent's Rhetoric and Bombast - and ICANN the Scam..

2000-05-18 Thread Richard J. Sexton
The cloest thing to this was the IFWP consensus calls. I still have them here in a file folder; the disconnect between them and what is, is major. At 02:12 PM 5/18/00 -0700, Greg Skinner wrote: John the Repoman wrote: P.S.: I wonder how much it would cost to mail every domain(s) registrant

Re: [IFWP] Re: Fw: Your names council at work

2000-05-17 Thread Jeff Williams
at work Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Digitel - Ken Stubbs) To: "Richard J. Sexton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [IFWP] Re: (OT) Re: Sunset for sunrise Date: M

Re: [IFWP] Re: Fw: Your names council at work

2000-05-17 Thread Michael Sondow
Jeff Williams wrote: DOn't forget Joe that Ken was elected illegitimately as the history of the DNSO clearly shows... The DNSO is an invention of CORE and the CORE leadership. Mssrs. Stubbs, Crispin, Abril i Abril, Sola, and the the others from CORE who co-opted the DNSO with the ICANN

Re: [IFWP] Re: Fw: Your names council at work

2000-05-17 Thread Jeff Williams
Michael and all, I can't disagree with you proposed remedy here Michael. I for one appreciate you frankness in this regard. Michael Sondow wrote: Jeff Williams wrote: DOn't forget Joe that Ken was elected illegitimately as the history of the DNSO clearly shows... The DNSO is an

Re: [IFWP] RE: S.D.Dellheim Companies?

2000-05-17 Thread Ellen Rony
Doesn't seem that important. It's not like poeple can't figure out [deleted] means S.D.Dellheim Companies Not to belabor the point, but Richard, if you do it for one, you may have to do it for othersand NO, there's no way for people new to this discussion to have a clue who [deleted] means.

Re: [IFWP] RE: S.D.Dellheim Companies?

2000-05-17 Thread Richard J. Sexton
ok At 06:23 PM 5/17/00 -0700, you wrote: Doesn't seem that important. It's not like poeple can't figure out [deleted] means S.D.Dellheim Companies Not to belabor the point, but Richard, if you do it for one, you may have to do it for othersand NO, there's no way for people new to this

Re: [IFWP] RE: S.D.Dellheim Companies?

2000-05-17 Thread Dan Steinberg
ONly people who are reading this list now will know that (Or people who read enough of the archives to find this thread). Someone just surfing in at random stands a good chance of NOT knowing and getting the impression the list isn't a complete reflection of the message s. Come to think of it,

[IFWP] Re: Kent's Rhetoric and Bombast - and ICANN the Scam..

2000-05-17 Thread Jeff Williams
John the Repoman and all, John, you have aptly captured in your own adept manner the scam that ICANN has become to anyone that has half a brain, and exercises it just a tad. ;) Maybe we should hang a label on it as "ICANN-ISCAM"? Has a ring to it doesn't it? ;) As for Kent, well the

Re: [IFWP] Re: Kent's Rhetoric and Bombast - and ICANN the Scam..

2000-05-17 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
On Wed, 17 May 2000, Jeff Williams wrote: As for Kent, well the bullshit flowith! Joe B. How about a .GOD special domain for Kent and Songbird. I know you can come up with something wholesome! ;) Send me the bill on the registration. songbird.god is taken. any other choices? or

[IFWP] Re: [bwg+] Were you consulted?

2000-05-16 Thread James Love
I was not consulted. Jamie "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" wrote: As you may know, ICANN suddenly announced last week that it has formed Election and Nominating Committees, without any visible public input. The announcement is at

[IFWP] RE: [bwg+] Were you consulted?

2000-05-16 Thread Judith Oppenheimer
I'm on WG-B, and am an At Large Member (awaiting, along with everyone else, my pin.) I ***was not*** consulted. Judith Oppenheimer 800 Dot Com News, Intelligence, Consulting – FREE Daily HeadsUp Headlines. "...superb real-time source..." –– "...invaluable..." –– "...indispensable..."

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg+] Were you consulted?

2000-05-16 Thread Mark C. Langston
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 11:05:57AM -0400, Dan Steinberg wrote: For that matter, neither was I. James Love wrote: I was not consulted. Jamie Neither was I, and I don't believe anyone else was either. When people around ICANN talk about "outreach" or "broad diversity" or "consensus",

[IFWP] Re: Were you consulted?

2000-05-16 Thread Ellen Rony
In order to test this intuition, I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who was actually consulted by ICANN prior to this announcement, whatever their affiliation. Not consulted. Disappointed, but not surprised. Was anyone on the original Membership Advisory Committee consulted? I

[IFWP] Re: Were you consulted?

2000-05-16 Thread Michael Sondow
Ellen Rony wrote Was anyone on the original Membership Advisory Committee consulted? The MAC served its purpose - to distract and immobilize user opposition to ICANN - and is now forgotten. Michael Sondow I.C.I.I.U.

Re: [IFWP] Re: Were you consulted?

2000-05-16 Thread Dan Steinberg
Well, I was on the MAC and I forgot to mention it last time round when I mentioned that I hadnt been consulted. Ellen Rony wrote: In order to test this intuition, I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who was actually consulted by ICANN prior to this announcement, whatever

[IFWP] Re: (OT) Re: Sunset for sunrise

2000-05-15 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
On Sun, 14 May 2000, Repoman wrote: ( Answer to !Dr Joe: Yes I'm new here and grateful to be able to share my simple views on topics utilizeing my simple instincts honed by 'hands on brick and mortar' as I suspect you are as well. Yup Btw: What the hell is a 'Fud'?My guess:

Re: [IFWP] Re: (OT) Re: Sunset for sunrise

2000-05-15 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 02:51 AM 5/15/00 -0400, !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote: Btw: What the hell is a 'Fud'?My guess: Funfounded drivel"?) FUD = Fear - Uncertainty - and Doubt. Hey, could we change it to "fucking unfounded drivel"? That's good. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[IFWP] Re: Fw: Your names council at work

2000-05-15 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
exton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [IFWP] Re: (OT) Re: Sunset for sunrise Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 08:33:46 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 glad to hear your

[IFWP] Re: (OT) Re: Sunset for sunrise (fwd)

2000-05-15 Thread Joe Baptista
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:07:11 -0400 From: David Honig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (OT) Re: Sunset for sunrise At 03:09 AM 5/15/00 -0400, !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote: Well - simply put ICANN runs 13 root

Re: [IFWP] Re: (OT) Re: Sunset for sunrise (fwd)

2000-05-15 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 05:12 PM 5/15/00 -0400, Joe Baptista wrote: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:07:11 -0400 From: David Honig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (OT) Re: Sunset for sunrise At 03:09 AM 5/15/00 -0400, !Dr. Joe

[IFWP] Re: [domain-policy] charter vs. generic

2000-05-14 Thread Greg Skinner
Richard Sexton wrote: I'm not sure it's possible to enfore a charter based on semantics; the ony chartered TLDs that have been even moderately successful are those which limit the charter to a specifit (or specific type) or organization. Do we care? Say .per and .nom were for personal names and

[IFWP] Re: ICANN's Latest Outrage

2000-05-11 Thread Jay Fenello
At 11:15 PM 5/11/00, Jay Fenello wrote: FYI: Sorry, Should have added that this intro was from icannwatch.org ICANN's Latest Outrage Bret Fausett, a long-time ICANN observer, describes how ICANN kept its plans to create a one-sided Nomination Committee secret. It was easy: ICANN just

[IFWP] Re: Unix variant of love bug

2000-05-10 Thread Richard J. Sexton
- - Begin Forwarded Message - This virus works on the honor system: If you're running a variant of unix or linux, please forward this message to everyone you know and delete a bunch of your files at random. --- End of Forwarded Message --

[IFWP] Re: Mailing List Conventions

2000-05-09 Thread Jeff Williams
Patrick and all, Patrick Corliss wrote: Hi Jeff On Wed 10 May 2000, Jeff Williams wrote: Patrick, you need to learn to turn wrap on in your E-Mailer or don't sent your response as an attachment. Patrick Corliss wrote: Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain)

[IFWP] Re: [DOMAIN-POLICY] Verizon Really Does Suck

2000-05-08 Thread Richard J. Sexton
It doesn't have to suck. It could blow. Or bite. Or -suck, or -bite or -blow. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ph-1.613.473.1719 It's about travel on expense accounts to places with good beer. - BKR

[IFWP] Re: [wg-b] Verizon really sucks

2000-05-08 Thread John Berryhill Ph.D. J.D.
Verizon is the new name of the Bell Atlantic-GTE merger. BA pre-emptively registered "verizonsucks.com" Yes, well... One supposes that they'd be in a position to know. So an organization registered "verizonreallysucks.com" Showing a rather pathetic lack of a sense of humor, not to

Re: [IFWP] Re: [wg-b] Verizon really sucks

2000-05-08 Thread Jeff Williams
John and all, Areidiots.com and Areidiots.org are available. ;) Yes you would THINK that Bell Atlantic and GTE would be in position to know. But I have found over the past 10 years of so that this is as likely not the case as it is... ;) John Berryhill Ph.D. J.D. wrote: Verizon is

[IFWP] Re: ICANN Launches CEO Search, Retains Christopher Mill to Assist

2000-05-05 Thread Michael Sondow
From ICANN-announce: ICANN Launches CEO Search, Retains Christopher Mill to Assist snip The Board is looking for candidates of demonstrated leadership, managerial competence, technical credibility, and international experience who will work to serve the entire Internet community, from

[IFWP] Re: Multiple TLD registrations coming home to roost

2000-05-03 Thread Michael Sondow
Dean Robb wrote: Yesterday I heard an interesting commercial on the radio. It was for a regional bank, announcing their new online banking service component. What caught my attention was their address: www.bankname.ORG. Yes, that's .ORG. For a business. Selling .ORG registrations to

[IFWP] Re: Multiple TLD registrations coming home to roost

2000-05-03 Thread Michael Sondow
Dean Robb wrote: While I agree that ICANN needs to address the issue; I lay the blame for the problem squarely at the feet of NSI. While it's true that NSI's "profit at any cost" attitude towards the Internet is the fundamental cause of the corruption of .ORG, ICANN is supposed, with all its

[IFWP] Re: Letter about use of Procurement Control to Privatize Public Resources

2000-05-03 Thread Jay Fenello
Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 00:42:17 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Letter about use of Procurement Control to Privatize Public Resources Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 00:35:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Ronda Hauben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

[IFWP] Re: Finally - the Christians have arrived, was Re: Christ IS Risen!

2000-05-02 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
On Tue, 2 May 2000, Wawa A. Ngenge wrote: Would they control content for NON-CHRISTIAN communities too? Wawa Why would they want to? The point of using tld's to filter content is to provide christian groups with control of their own name space. The same applies for family values groups.

[IFWP] Re: [DOMAIN-POLICY] NSI whois anomily

2000-04-30 Thread Richard J. Sexton
Geez. Not only that but ns1 is the primary and used to get listed first, now it's listed second. Which nameserver is the primary and which is/are secondaries is what you are asked when you register the domain and the informationn as to which one was which was only stored in one place anywhere -

[IFWP] Re: email bug?

2000-04-28 Thread Michael Sondow
Jim Dixon wrote: Not those of us who run UNIX ;-) Believe me, if I had a year or two to spend learning Unix or Linux, I'd switch over. I hate M$ as much as anyone. But it's the same old story: having gotten roped into MS-DOS years ago, and then following along in the progression through

Re: [IFWP] Re: email bug?

2000-04-28 Thread Craig Simon
Micheal, Viruses aren't MS's fault and MS is very good at some things. No need to be suckered. Netscape is easy to install, and I think it has a cleaner e-mail interface, if not as feature-full. The frustrating part with MS is that its applications are so inconsistent. Some parts are very

[IFWP] Re: Network Solutions Business .EU (pre)registry

2000-04-28 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
Is this real or is this bullshit? bogus telephone number, but netsolbiz look real enough. The EU has not sanctioned this. This looks alot like fraud and misinformation. Consumers should be warned. Once again - the eu has not sanctioned this. No mechinisim is in place by the eu to proceed to

[IFWP] Re: new tld's (fwd)

2000-04-24 Thread Joe Baptista
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:00:48 -0400 From: Scott Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new tld's We are actively involved with the current initiatives through ICANN for new gTLD namespace. We are also working on adding support for

Re: [IFWP] Re: [Nc-tlds] Re: DNSO Names Council decides it can discount and ignore its working groups

2000-04-19 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 10:12 PM 4/18/00 -0700, you wrote: As irony would have it given recent discussions here about .union and .sucks, our local county newspaper, the Marin Independent Journal, ran a feature article today, "Online whines with a bitter aftertaste." Dan Parisi , founder of Whitehouse.com (a porn

[IFWP] Re: [DOMAIN-POLICY] [ga] Jus Primae Noctis [Was: An interesting dissent to sunri

2000-04-19 Thread Richard J. Sexton
I spent a lot of effort on other forums to recruit people to join Workgroup C and have an impact on its efforts, only to see the Names Council use those very numbers as a reason to ignore its results. Greg Skinner wherever you are: I hope this answers your question as to why I didn't become

[IFWP] RE: TM Sunrise +20 (Re: [wg-b] WG-B Report -Take II)

2000-04-18 Thread Richard J. Sexton
From: "Judith Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Hartman, Steve" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Harald Tveit Alvestrand'" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Wg-B@Dnso. Org" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [bwg+] RE: TM Sunrise +20 (Re: [wg-b] WG-B Report -Take II) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000

[IFWP] Re: [council] suggested draft resolution for today's NC call

2000-04-18 Thread Richard J. Sexton
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 1:42 PM To: Wg-B; Chicoine, Caroline; Paul M. Kane Cc: Registrars List; 'Louis Touton'; 'Andrew McLaughlin'; 'names council'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Michael Schneider' Subject: [wg-b] RE: [registrars] Re: [council] suggested draft resolution for today's NC call To

[IFWP] Re: alternate roots and the dns that serves them

2000-04-18 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
Any dns server can operate as a root server. If a dns server runs the "." zone - then it's s root server. Example - if I wanted to operate a root server using the ORSC roots, as i do on mine - I secondary the file from the ORSC primary root server. Example: I would change my named.conf file

[IFWP] Re: Alternative Roots LIABILITY??? Some Questions...

2000-04-18 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Ron Bennett wrote: Before people get all excited about alternative roots, think about liability... For example what happens if an alternative root has incorrect information?? That's not possible Ie. Let's say an alternative root has Buy.com pointing to some

[IFWP] Re: alternate roots and the dns that serves them

2000-04-18 Thread Joe Baptista
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Bob Garth wrote: Joe, thank you, that was great(!!!), and yes, it answers most of my questions, but one. At what version of bind/named needs to be used that supports .db (database files) other than the obvious, the most recent? Just wondering if it's nessacary for me

[IFWP] Re: [Nc-tlds] Re: DNSO Names Council decides it can discount andignore its working groups

2000-04-18 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
There's a few problems with the namespace roots which I'll spell out here. 1. Non of the namespace root servers provide for zone transfers of the root. Therefore it is impossible to determine what tld space is in them. 2. Lack of co-operation - when John Hunt enumerated the namespace he

[IFWP] Re: [Nc-tlds] Re: DNSO Names Council decides it can discount and ignore its working groups

2000-04-18 Thread Michael Sondow
James Love wrote: We are more likely to be involved in proposals for other civil society TLDs. Those proposals will be treated by the INTA, WIPO, and the DNSO NC with the same disdain as .union or anything else that they see as complicating or intruding on their hegemony over the traditional

[IFWP] Re: [Nc-tlds] NSI/Roger Cochetti's registry concept paper

2000-04-18 Thread Michael Sondow
Roger Cochetti says: A decision to start now with at least two new "proof of concept" TLDs, by means that allow careful yet rapid deployment, will not in any way limit ICANN's approach to future namespace expansion. This is disingenuous and untrue. The first ones will obviously become a

[IFWP] Re: [Nc-tlds] NSI/Roger Cochetti's registry concept paper

2000-04-18 Thread Gordon Cook
Roger Cochetti says: In other words, put into immediate effect a measure which is currently being hotly disputed and which runs directly counter to the interests of a large percentage of Internet users. In the spirit of gaining new experience and as a reflection of the rapid global growth

Re: [IFWP] Re: [Nc-tlds] Re: DNSO Names Council decides it candiscount and ignore its working groups

2000-04-18 Thread Ellen Rony
As irony would have it given recent discussions here about .union and .sucks, our local county newspaper, the Marin Independent Journal, ran a feature article today, "Online whines with a bitter aftertaste." Dan Parisi , founder of Whitehouse.com (a porn site) has spent approximately $100,000 to

[IFWP] Re: [comments-gtlds] The IOD/.web Situation

2000-04-17 Thread Greg Skinner
"A. Henderson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I heard recently about IOD and their .web registry, I thought I would go and register some .web domains. However, as I learned, most of the "good" domains had already been taken. Trying to find a good .web to register seemed just about as hard as

[IFWP] Re: i-dns.net (fwd)

2000-04-17 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:44:04 -0400 (EDT) From: !Dr. Joe Baptista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: James Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: YJ Park [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: i-dns.net I think it's time for a history lesson on i-dns. i-dns is an

[IFWP] Re: www.tv domains Auction? (fwd)

2000-04-17 Thread Joe Baptista
some entertainment .. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:43:29 -0700 From: Alan DeRossett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: www.tv domains Auction? We have a TradeMark on a name and would like to register it in the TLD .TV However it looks

[IFWP] Re: [idno] Re: NSI Restricts Re-sale of Domain Names - and IDNO revisionist history?

2000-04-16 Thread Jeff Williams
Karl and all, Indeed I am sorry that you take such offense at my attempting to keep interested parties informed. I also see that you have a tendency to contradict your self in your response. I also noticed that in your response you also cross posted. As I recall you, Andy, William and even

[IFWP] Re: [Nc-tlds] Opinion from China regarding new gTLD. (fwd)

2000-04-16 Thread Joe Baptista
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:58:03 -0400 (EDT) From: !Dr. Joe Baptista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Milton Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Love [EMAIL PROTECTED], Non-commercial TLDs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Nc-tlds]

Re: [IFWP] Re: [Nc-tlds] Opinion from China regarding new gTLD. (fwd)

2000-04-16 Thread Jeff Williams
Joe and all, I also have to agree with both your potential scenario and Dave Crockers comments here as well. But I somehow doubt that China will in the end block all gTLD (DNS Entirely) and will modify their tendency for pull business practices to some expectable level, eventually or risk

[IFWP] Re: Net regulators close in on rogue domains

2000-04-14 Thread Michael Sondow
http://www.theregister.co.uk/000410-04.html The Register: Good morning, Mr. Cohen. Can you give us a brief rundown on the domain name situation and ICANN's tireless efforts to straighten it out? Cohen: Yata-yata. Me, me, me. Yata, yata. The Register: Really, Mr. Cohen? That's

[IFWP] Re: interception proxies (fwd)

2000-04-14 Thread Greg Skinner
Although this is off-topic, I thought I'd forward it because (1) I like to read what Noel Chiappa writes, and (2) this is one of those IETF threads where people discuss how things might have gone differently if certain design and implementation decisions had been made differently. Date: Wed, 12

[IFWP] Re: Interpol issue

2000-04-12 Thread Greg Skinner
Richard, I have not seen any comments from you in any of the DNSO archives, even the public comment areas, at least in the past few months. I don't see how you are going to have any kind of input into the process if you don't participate. --gregbo

Re: [IFWP] Re: Interpol issue

2000-04-12 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 11:54 AM 4/12/00 -0700, you wrote: Richard, I have not seen any comments from you in any of the DNSO archives, even the public comment areas, at least in the past few months. I don't see how you are going to have any kind of input into the process if you don't participate. I participated in

[IFWP] Re: Opinion from China regarding new gTLD. (fwd)

2000-04-12 Thread Joe Baptista
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:17:59 -0400 (EDT) From: !Dr. Joe Baptista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: YJ Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Opinion from China regarding new gTLD. On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, YJ Park wrote: 2, The NEW gTLDs will

[IFWP] Re: [ga] Our buddy Jonathan Cohen gets some press

2000-04-11 Thread Joe Baptista
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Andy Gardner wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/000410-04.html And just who was he referring to when he says "dissidents who were known in some cases to have received financial support for attendance at meetings from NSI" That's just Cohen farting the same

[IFWP] Re: [ga] [Admin] Removal of posting rights

2000-04-11 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
Looks like the horseshit in the GA keeps getting thicker. I have asked Mr. Cohen personally if he is one of the pedophiles involved in the Fort Lauderdale scandal which has been supressed here in Canada. Mr Cohen has choosen to not respond. Regards Joe Baptista On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Harald

[IFWP] Re: [DOMAIN-POLICY] Interpol can't seem to pay it's domain bill

2000-04-11 Thread Richard J. Sexton
This is the kind of stability the DoC has broght us. Let's think back, way back to how this all started. You registered a domain name in say, 1986. Then 10 years later you got a bill. Why? Because a small number of people decided you would. Interpol losing it's name is just rediculous.

[IFWP] Re: [ga] Voting regimes

2000-04-10 Thread Joe Baptista
The chief GA horseshitter speaks. The GA was held up as an example of what not to do and Harald continues with new ground. Regards Joe On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: Once we've got a GA membership, we've got to decide about how the GA votes. I'd suggest keeping things

[IFWP] Re: [wg-c] Proposed gTLDs: The IAHC Seven (fwd)

2000-04-10 Thread Greg Skinner
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:03:34 -0700 From: Kent Crispin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [wg-c] Proposed gTLDs: The IAHC Seven In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from Mark C. Langston on Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 10:52:21AM -0700 Pardon the length of this... On Mon, Apr 10, 2000

[IFWP] Re: [wg-c] Another gTLD starts up (fwd)

2000-04-09 Thread Greg Skinner
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:46:43 -0700 To: "'William X. Walsh'" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [wg-c] Another gTLD starts up From: "Christopher Ambler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Even that would be a step forward that I would welcome. --

Re: [IFWP] Re: ICANN/DNSO (fwd)

2000-04-07 Thread Jeff Williams
Joe and all, Yes I posted them to the DNSO GA list for informational purposes as Mo, was having a problem in getting on the DNSO GA list for some odd reason. And yes, it seems that WXW forgot to take his prozack again :( !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote: Well - those censored messages are now

Re: [IFWP] Re: ICANN/DNSO (fwd)

2000-04-07 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Jeff Williams wrote: Joe and all, Yes I posted them to the DNSO GA list for informational purposes as Mo, was having a problem in getting on the DNSO GA list for some odd reason. And yes, it seems that WXW forgot to take his prozack again :( I know. He's so

[IFWP] Re: tucows and open srs is falling apart

2000-04-06 Thread Jeff Williams
William and all, For some of you who may be new on this list. William X. Walsh has had a long standing dislike and feud with Joe Baptista, as well as myself amongst a few others. Anything that WXW may say in response to posts coming from Joe, myself, Joop, and a few others should be read

[IFWP] Re: ICANN/DNSO (fwd)

2000-04-06 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
here is a recent private email exchange I had concerning the big picture. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:32:25 -0400 (EDT) From: !Dr. Joe Baptista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: censored Cc: censored Subject: Re: ICANN/DNSO On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, censored wrote: If this

[IFWP] Re: ICANN/DNSO (fwd)

2000-04-06 Thread Joe Baptista
Here's more censored stuff of this very interesting conversation. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 04:47:51 +0100 (GMT) From: censored To: censored Cc: censored Subject: Re: ICANN/DNSO # censored, I agree that restricting the content of a post to the DNSO # GA

[IFWP] Re: ICANN/DNSO (fwd)

2000-04-06 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
Well - those censored messages are now in the public domain. So here's a copy of the full message. Poor WXW is seeing ghosts again. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:17:01 -0700 From: Jeff Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mo McKinlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL

[IFWP] Re: tucows and open srs is falling apart

2000-04-05 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Andy Gardner wrote: One only needs to review the archives of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list to read some of the sexually explicit things you said about Elisabeth Portenouve (sp?), to fully realise just _who_ needs to learn some "serious" manners. There's the pity. I'll

[IFWP] Re: Press Releases (fwd)

2000-04-04 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
This is beutiful. Paul Vixie joined the opensrs project mailing lists for the purpose of defending himself. Wonderful. Regards Joe Baptista -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 08:17:24 -0700 From: Paul A Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike Bilow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:

[IFWP] Re: Press Releases (fwd)

2000-04-04 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
my reply to vixie. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:23:41 -0400 (EDT) From: !Dr. Joe Baptista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul A Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mike Bilow [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Press Releases Wonderful. This is a first. Paul

[IFWP] Re: BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from [Mark C. Langston mark@bitshift.org]

2000-04-04 Thread Richard J. Sexton
Ok, all but 1. On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 01:18:02PM -0400, Richard J. Sexton wrote: At 10:05 AM 4/4/00 -0700, you wrote: http://offer.networksolutions.com/go/t1/surv1/ Note question 13. Kinda begs the question "which has more validity, 30 or so people ni working-group-C all with vested

[IFWP] Re: This guys on the ball - Re: Transfers: A bit of anexplanation (fwd)

2000-04-03 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
That's an interesting twist. I don't think the Canadian courts would much care about a lower US courts decision. But the location of control is a valid point. I'll pass it on. Regards Joe On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Andy Gardner wrote: The law of equity in Canada gives control of domain names to

[IFWP] RE: realtime root server updates someday? (fwd)

2000-04-03 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
David Harris made a suggestion to update the root servers in real time and I was wondering if NSI found this a practicle solution for implimentation. Regards Joe Baptista -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 13:01:29 -0400 From: David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: !Dr.

[IFWP] Re: Public Comments on New gTLDs/Famous Names Invited; UDRP Search Tool Implemented

2000-04-03 Thread Michael Sondow
ICANN wrote: The DNSO Names Council invites the Internet community to comment on these reports and the issues raised by them. What about the general Assembly of the DNSO? You remember, the "bottom-up", "consensus" community? Doesn't that exist any more? Did you destroy it by demoralizing

[IFWP] Re: Public Comments on New gTLDs/Famous Names Invited; UDRP Search Tool Implemented

2000-04-03 Thread Michael Sondow
ICANN wrote: The DNSO Names Council invites the Internet community to comment on these reports and the issues raised by them. What about the General Assembly of the DNSO? You remember, the "bottom-up", "consensus" community called on by the White Paper to form ICANN and the DNSO? Are you

Re: [IFWP] RE: realtime root server updates someday? (fwd)

2000-04-03 Thread Patrick Greenwell
On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote: David Harris made a suggestion to update the root servers in real time and I was wondering if NSI found this a practicle solution for implimentation. http://www.ultradns.com.

Re: [IFWP] Re: US DOC: government control of root is material to antitrust analysis

2000-04-03 Thread Michael Sondow
Greg Skinner wrote: There have been commercial registrations in .us for quite some time now. And I tell you, once again, that although they have never been disallowed they are not the principal purpose of .us, as the RFC makes clear. Your extrapolation from some commercial use of .us, to .us

Re: [IFWP] Re: US DOC: government control of root is material to antitrust analysis

2000-04-03 Thread Greg Skinner
Michael Sondow wrote: Greg Skinner wrote: There have been commercial registrations in .us for quite some time now. And I tell you, once again, that although they have never been disallowed they are not the principal purpose of .us, as the RFC makes clear. Your reading of the RFC is

Re: [IFWP] Re: US DOC: government control of root is material to antitrust analysis

2000-04-03 Thread Michael Sondow
Greg Skinner wrote: Your reading of the RFC is different than mine, as I have it in front of me now and see no language stating (or implying) anything about the principal purpose of .us. You don't? What about the following, which you yourself quote: Any computer in the United States

[IFWP] Re: Press Releases

2000-04-02 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
On Sun, 2 Apr 2000, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: Paul did not resign because of this. then why did he resign? baptista Incidentally - Paul Vixie also is the sendmail programmer, No, he is not. The ISC generously sponsors the sendmail ftp site and sendmail-announce mailing list. If you

Re: [IFWP] Re: [ga] Swedish gov interferes

2000-04-02 Thread Michael Sondow
Mikael Pawlo wrote: I hope this is sufficient answer to your question. Can you tell us, please, what you believe to be the GAC involvement in the Swedish Government's decision to interfere in self-regulation? Michael Sondow

[IFWP] Re: [ga] Fw: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 54%

2000-04-02 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
The next BIND Survey - which will start in a few months will specifically test for dns pointing to alternate roots - and the question should be settled then. Your analysis is a bit faulty here. You've made an analysis more appropriately applied to a standalone nameserver and not a root server.

Re: [IFWP] Re: US DOC: government control of root is material to antitrust analysis

2000-04-02 Thread Greg Skinner
This isn't funny, you know. Many people, myself included, worked very hard to present proposals for a reorganization of .us that would preserve it for public interest use, as it was intended. For the record, the original intent of the .us domain included commercial use. See RFC 1480.

Re: [IFWP] Re: US DOC: government control of root is material to antitrust analysis

2000-04-02 Thread Greg Skinner
Richard J. Sexton wrote: I think it's very funny Micahel. The country that thinks it can cotrol the Internet and dicate world wide practice has THE most screwed up domains on the planet. In my opinion, this can be fixed by introducing some "portable" SLDs in .us. --gregbo

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