Re: ANN: CamelBones 0.2.1

2004-01-30 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Jan 30, 2004, at 6:31 PM, John Delacour wrote: I must say I find the Interface extremely confusing and temperamental. It must be designed by and for people who do a lot of game-playing or something. I suppose I'll just have to get used to it. Well, I *did* spend a considerable amount of my m

Re: ANN: CamelBones 0.2.1

2004-01-30 Thread John Delacour
At 9:34 am -0500 29/1/04, Sherm Pendley wrote: A broken copy of the project template snuck its way into the release. I've added a new "XcodeExtras-Update.pkg" package to the sourceforge site. It includes the proper template, which does have a "MainWindow.nib", and fixes the bug in (ProjectName

Re: ANN: CamelBones 0.2.1

2004-01-29 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Jan 29, 2004, at 4:37 AM, John Delacour wrote: This I did and got the error below. Can you tell me what I did wrong or missed out? Sorry, my mistake. A broken copy of the project template snuck its way into the release. I've added a new "XcodeExtras-Update.pkg" package to the sourceforge s

Re: ANN: CamelBones 0.2.1

2004-01-29 Thread John Delacour
At 3:23 am -0500 29/1/04, Sherm Pendley wrote: There's a new Camel in town. ;-) What is CamelBones? In a nutshell, CamelBones is a Cocoa/Perl bridge. It allows you to write GUI applications that use Apple's Cocoa library in Perl. Hello Sherm, I followed the instruction

ANN: CamelBones 0.2.1

2004-01-29 Thread Sherm Pendley
There's a new Camel in town. ;-) What is CamelBones? In a nutshell, CamelBones is a Cocoa/Perl bridge. It allows you to write GUI applications that use Apple's Cocoa library in Perl. What's New in 0.2.1? Panther compatibility, a tiny (140K) new "runtime" download for

Re: CamelBones 0.2 on Panther

2003-12-29 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Dec 29, 2003, at 2:57 PM, Zach Lipton wrote: After much searching and grumbling, I found Thilo Planz's post on building CamelBones 0.2 under Panther (http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macosx/6383). After getting this to work, I thought I would type up more complete directions that

CamelBones 0.2 on Panther

2003-12-29 Thread Zach Lipton
After much searching and grumbling, I found Thilo Planz's post on building CamelBones 0.2 under Panther (http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macosx/6383). After getting this to work, I thought I would type up more complete directions that work with Xcode and post a new archive for p

CamelBones under Panther

2003-11-28 Thread Alex Robinson
Is there any way of getting CamelBones (0.2 or 0.3 pre) to run under Panther? Sticking the framework in /Library/Frameworks doesn't work and attempting to build from source using XCode yields gcc-3.3: GNU Objective C no longer supports traditional compilation gcc-3.3: GNU Objective

compiled Camelbones 0.2 on Panther

2003-11-08 Thread Thilo Planz
; If above seems to be working for all, can someone please make an official binary to put on the Camelbones homepage? Regards, Thilo

Re: Camelbones & Panther ?

2003-09-21 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 10:53 PM, Thilo Planz wrote: To those who already house a panther, does Camelbones (the currently official version, not the 0.3 preview) work with it ? No, I'm afraid it doesn't. I suppose it has to be recompiled since Perl is not binary-compat

Camelbones & Panther ?

2003-09-17 Thread Thilo Planz
To those who already house a panther, does Camelbones (the currently official version, not the 0.3 preview) work with it ? I suppose it has to be recompiled since Perl is not binary-compatible with the one in previous Mac OS X versions, but that should be it, right? Thanks, Thilo

ANN: CamelBones 0.3-pre1

2003-06-28 Thread Sherm Pendley
I've uploaded the first CamelBones 0.3 build to my site - <http://www.dot-app.org> ;-) Yep, it's here - the long-awaited CamelBones 0.3. Not quite ready for prime time, but it builds cleanly (no warnings). Some things are not working yet - passing and/or returning structures

Re: [CamelBones] getting text from NSTextView (newbie question)

2003-06-26 Thread Thilo Planz
Hi Yvon, sorry for this newbie question, but i'm stuck in getting back a text from an NSTextView. but getting it back with : my $text = $self->{'MajRVAffiche'}->->stringValue; (the same as for NSTextField) returns an error : Instances of class NSTextView do not respond to selector stringVa

FOUND ! was (Re: [CamelBones] getting text from NSTextView (newbie question))

2003-06-26 Thread Yvon Thoraval
Le jeudi, 26 juin 2003, à 09:52 Europe/Paris, Yvon Thoraval a écrit : Hey all, sorry for this newbie question, but i'm stuck in getting back a text from an NSTextView. inserting text is easy : $self->{'MajRVAffiche'}->insertText("blablabla"); but getting it back with : my $text = $self->{'Ma

[CamelBones] getting text from NSTextView (newbie question)

2003-06-26 Thread Yvon Thoraval
Hey all, sorry for this newbie question, but i'm stuck in getting back a text from an NSTextView. inserting text is easy : $self->{'MajRVAffiche'}->insertText("blablabla"); but getting it back with : my $text = $self->{'MajRVAffiche'}->->stringValue; (the same as for NSTextField) returns an

Re: [CamelBones] addressing a check box

2003-06-25 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 08:27 AM, Yvon Thoraval wrote: my $okHTML = $self->{'myCB'}->stringValue; Perl error: Can't call method "stringValue" without a package or object reference The outlet $self->{'myCB'} is not being connected to the check box. That is because - as it says in the doc

[CamelBones] addressing a check box

2003-06-25 Thread Yvon Thoraval
hey all, i have a checkbox named saying "myCB", when i used CamelBones with Perl 5.6 reading this check box by : my $okHTML = $self->{'myCB'}->stringValue; returns 0 or 1 depending upon 'm y CB' state. this was OK for me. BUT since i've rebuild Came

Re: [CamelBones] and some prob with XML::LibXML

2003-06-23 Thread Yvon Thoraval
Le dimanche, 22 juin 2003, à 17:27 Europe/Paris, Sherm Pendley a écrit : CamelBones doesn't use /usr/bin/perl - it's linked directly to libperl.dylib, and unless it's rebuilt to use another, it uses the one found under /System/Library/Perl. Have you built CamelBones against you

Re: [CamelBones] and some prob with XML::LibXML

2003-06-22 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sunday, June 22, 2003, at 02:21 AM, Yvon Thoraval wrote: the script part using LibXML has been tested apart of CamelBones, working well. XML::LibXML is installed in /opt/perl/lib/site_perl/5.8.0/darwin'. CamelBones doesn't use /usr/bin/perl - it's linked directly to lib

[CamelBones] problem with XML::LibXML

2003-06-22 Thread Yvon Thoraval
firstevall i have to say camelbones is great for people as me making small apps for web dev. however at that time i'm stuck with XML::LibXML. the script part using LibXML has been tested apart of CamelBones, working well. XML::LibXML is installed in /opt/perl/lib/site_perl/5.8.0/darwin&

[CamelBones] and some prob with XML::LibXML

2003-06-22 Thread Yvon Thoraval
Hey all, i'm using perl 5.8 over macos x.2.6 in /opt and the latest CamelBones FrameWork, i'm unable to make a script working within CamelBones/Project Buider althought it works fine from command line... this script is using XML::LibXML installed in /opt/perl/lib/site_perl/5.

CamelBones sessions at OSCON and YAPC::Canada

2003-03-11 Thread Sherm Pendley
For anyone who's interested, I'll be giving 3-hour "getting started with CamelBones" tutorials at YAPC::Canada in May, and at O'Reilly's Open Source Convention in July. Hope to see you there! sherm--

Re: CamelBones and CVS

2003-03-10 Thread Sherm Pendley
a project I should know about, please let me know so I can add it to the list. Alex also made a very nice "made with CamelBones" badge, if you'd like to link back to <http://camelbones.sourceforge.net>. You can find it at: <http://dot-app.org/CamelButton.gif>. I recomm

Re: CamelBones and CVS

2003-03-10 Thread Thilo Planz
Hi, I have written some small apps in Perl using CamelBones. Have anybody gotten as far as trying to ship these? Yup. Someone should really compile a list of CB projects one day... Except for the examples bundled with CB itself, I know of JournalX (http://rubberband.org/code/JournalX_v0.1.1

CamelBones and CVS

2003-03-10 Thread Jonas B . Nielsen
Hello, I have written some small apps in Perl using CamelBones. Have anybody gotten as far as trying to ship these? - how is it done and what is the best way? Another thing which would be nice to know, is how do you throw you CamelBones projects in CVS, I am running 10.1.5 and and the project

Re: Camelbones outline view data sources

2003-02-07 Thread Rich Morin
At 5:58 PM + 2/6/03, Tom Insam wrote: does anyone have an example of a class implementing a datasource for an outline view? I've got a start on some code, but it's not working yet. FWIW, it's supposed to display three non-expandable items. Maybe some kind person on the list will let me know

Re: Camelbones outline view data sources

2003-02-06 Thread Rich Morin
At 5:58 PM + 2/6/03, Tom Insam wrote: does anyone have an example of a class implementing a datasource for an outline view? Table views I understand and have working, but I'm not getting very far with the outline views, and the PB docs aren't as helpful as for the table views... Ideally I'd l

Camelbones outline view data sources

2003-02-06 Thread Tom Insam
does anyone have an example of a class implementing a datasource for an outline view? Table views I understand and have working, but I'm not getting very far with the outline views, and the PB docs aren't as helpful as for the table views... Ideally I'd like a class that just wraps a perl hash

Re: Camelbones and garbage collection

2003-02-03 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 09:34 PM, Thilo Planz wrote: I am getting pretty close to releasing some Camelbones code on Sourceforge, although I am not sure if it can serve as an example to others. (It will feature a partly functional browser view, system services, add-on services

Camelbones and garbage collection

2003-02-03 Thread Thilo Planz
Hi, I am getting pretty close to releasing some Camelbones code on Sourceforge, although I am not sure if it can serve as an example to others. (It will feature a partly functional browser view, system services, add-on services, pasteboard access and a dynamic dock menu though). But first I

Re: CamelBones example code?

2003-01-28 Thread Rich Morin
At 11:03 AM +1030 1/29/03, Paul McCann wrote: userFixedPitchFontOfSize maybe? Yep (Blush). Whatever; on to the next bug... -r -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm- my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Proj

Re: CamelBones example code?

2003-01-28 Thread Paul McCann
Rich Morin wrote: > FWIW, I managed to get the data source part working, though somebody is > making FAR too many calls to numberOfRowsInTableView (:-). My current > issue is setting a fixed-width font for the table's data cells. This: > $acell = $col->dataCell(); > $acell->setFont(NSFont-

Re: CamelBones example code?

2003-01-28 Thread Rich Morin
Thanks to RB and TI for reminding me about the included example code. I had the Hello example in my projects directory and had forgotten that Sherm had included some other examples in Developer:Examples:Camelbones. FWIW, I managed to get the data source part working, though somebody is making FAR

Re: CamelBones example code?

2003-01-28 Thread Tom Insam
ly, almost any kind of (working :-) example code would be good to have up on the CamelBones site (http://camelbones.sf.net). yeah, I got that. There's some example code that comes with camelbones, it's probably in Developer:Examples:Camelbones:Data Access The tricky bit (for me) wa

CamelBones example code?

2003-01-28 Thread Rich Morin
After a hiatus (working on my project's design, model code, etc.), I'm back to playing with CamelBones. Right now, for instance, I'm trying to get an NSTableView set up. Given the (smallish) amount of CamelBones documentation, this is pretty much like blundering around in a da

implementing Cocoa system services with Camelbones

2003-01-25 Thread Thilo Planz
Hi all, I spent most of the day trying to implement a Cocoa service with Camelbones. It would be great if someone could point me to some sample code or documentation. I have included a report on my progress below. Also, is there a list of open sourced Camelbones programs (which would make

POE + CamelBones

2003-01-07 Thread Piers Cawley
Has anyone done any work on getting POE playing nicely with NSApplication's eventloop? It just feels like it'd be a good thing to do...

Re: Using NSBeginAlertSheet in CamelBones?

2003-01-02 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 5:15 PM -0800 1/2/03, John Labovitz wrote: On 1/2/03 2:49 PM, "Garth Douglass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Looking at the appkit_funcs.txt file from Camelbones 0.2, it looks like NSBeginAlertSheet is not being built, as it seems to have been commented out. Not sure why,

Re: Using NSBeginAlertSheet in CamelBones?

2003-01-02 Thread John Labovitz
On 1/2/03 2:49 PM, "Garth Douglass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looking at the appkit_funcs.txt file from Camelbones 0.2, it looks like > NSBeginAlertSheet is not being built, as it seems to have been > commented out. Not sure why, probably ones of the parameters i

Re: Using NSBeginAlertSheet in CamelBones?

2003-01-02 Thread Garth Douglass
On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 05:02 AM, John Labovitz wrote: So I'm working on my first real camelbones app. I've been successful in putting up a window and handling buttons. Now I'd like to display an alert as a sheet in a window. It seems that for simple alerts, the

Using NSBeginAlertSheet in CamelBones?

2003-01-02 Thread John Labovitz
So I'm working on my first real camelbones app. I've been successful in putting up a window and handling buttons. Now I'd like to display an alert as a sheet in a window. It seems that for simple alerts, the right way to do this is to use the NSBeginAlertSheet() function,

Making a CamelBones app respond to a Finder contextual menu?

2002-12-08 Thread Rich Morin
I have some C code that responds to contextual menus in the Finder, but I'm rather lost on how to link this up to CB. Has anyone here written a CB app that can respond to a Finder contextual menu item (like GetInfo does)? -r -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/

Re: converting script to use with CamelBones

2002-11-07 Thread Koen van der Drift
Ok, solved it :) > if ( @_ >= $num ) > { > my $sum = 0; > $sum += $_ for @myList[@_]; > > ... # do some calculations here > > return 1; > } > > for my $i ( ( @_ ? $_[-1] + 1 : 0 ) .. ( @myList - $num + @_ ) ) > { > iterate( @_, $i ); >

Re: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-07 Thread Kee Hinckley
At 1:43 PM -0500 11/6/02, Emmanuel. M. Decarie wrote: After perusing the CPAN doc, it doesn't seems possible from the command line to ask CPAN to load a specific Config.pm à la httpd -f. Maybe an alternative is to use the programmer's interface. Am I missing something here? I don't know if the

Re: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-07 Thread Charles Albrecht
At 1:27 PM -0500 11/6/2002, Emmanuel. M. Decarie wrote: >Hi Sherm, > >I think that your idea is brilliant. > >The thing that I'm not sure is what you are going to put under /Library/Camelbones. One minor question I would have - would /Library/Application Support/CamelBo

converting script to use with CamelBones

2002-11-07 Thread Koen van der Drift
Hi, I am trying to convert a small perl program to CamelBones, but am having some problems. Here's a snippet of the original script: my $num = 0; print "Give a number "; $num = ; chomp( $num ); initList() # sets values in myList iterate(); sub iterate { if ( @_ >= $

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-07 Thread Robert Dalgleish
o have some problems. If you don't package the camelbones framework in the executable, then people will have to have CB on their machines, and thus no all-in-one executables. If you ship the framework in the built executable, then you're dependent on the system perl, and thus also dep

Re: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-06 Thread Emmanuel. M. Decarie
Hi Sherm, I think that your idea is brilliant. The thing that I'm not sure is what you are going to put under /Library/Camelbones. I'm sure that you will have there what you find under /System/Library/Perl. But what about the modules installed by the developer? They will go for

Re: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-06 Thread Emmanuel. M. Decarie
Hi Sherm, I think that your idea is brilliant. The thing that I'm not sure is what you are going to put under /Library/Camelbones. I'm sure that you will have there what you find under /System/Library/Perl. But what about the modules installed by the developer? They will go for

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-06 Thread Dan Sugalski
s would be *drastically* larger, as it would include an entire Perl distribution - 10MB+. So, what do you think? Here's (belatedly) what I think. No matter what you do you're going to have some problems. If you don't package the camelbones framework in the executable, then people

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-05 Thread Bill Stephenson
I've only had time to glimpse at CamelBones and I've almost no experience with project builder, but I know that Sherm is getting very close to providing exactly what I want and soon I'll be riding his coattails. What I want is a way to deliver stand alone apps. If that means i

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-05 Thread Salvatore Denaro
On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 07:23 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote: I'm close to the 0.3 release, and I've been thinking about the question of packaging. At the risk of starting a flamewar, I think Microsoft got it right with VB. The CamelBones package builder should allow you to build

RE: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-05 Thread Nathan Herring
In my case, I want the command-line version of my perl applications to be available outside of a CamelBones GUI front-end, and it makes it difficult to keep them in sync if it's using a whole different set of modules (considering I have my own private modules). My question is, why can

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-05 Thread Robert Mah
This method would create small application bundles that can (with a bit of extra effort) run with many perl versions if the developer so chooses. The modules to be included inside the .app could be specified manually by the developer. I don't think that's too large a burden. CamelBones

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-05 Thread Pete Prodoehl
rs. Distributing as a single CamelBones bundle has the potential to solve that problem completely for me. Thanks, Alex

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-04 Thread Ken Williams
On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 10:26 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote: The alternative is to use the Perl that's already installed on users' machines. But, in order to do that, end users would have to install the version of the CamelBones framework that's linked against the version o

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-04 Thread Ward Vuillemot
This going a bit tangential to the topic at hand. Please forgive me. In-house, I keep a copy of the Perl modules (library) on our network server. I use CVS for my own modules. The users can update my modules using a CVS client (WinCVS or MacCVS...) -- my applications include line command vari

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-04 Thread Sherm Pendley
as text resources with ResEdit. :-) my biggest concern has been how to simplify the installation process for my users. Distributing as a single CamelBones bundle has the potential to solve that problem completely for me. That's basically the meat of the question. In order to drastically sim

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-04 Thread Sherm Pendley
many perl versions if the developer so chooses. Unfortunately, it wouldn't. Applications that link against libperl.dylib have the same limitation as compiled XS modules - they only work with the version of Perl they're linked against. But, placing it in /Library/CamelBones would mean

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-04 Thread Alex Harper
Distributing as a single CamelBones bundle has the potential to solve that problem completely for me. Thanks, Alex -- Alex Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] ³We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-04 Thread Rich Morin
SP>Virtually everyone I've heard from wants to distribute standalone, SP>drag-n-drop app bundles. I want a "Mac-like" installation for end users. Either an installer or a drag-n-drop app bundle would serve, from this perspective. I also want to provide a way to let folks uninstall my app. Given

Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-04 Thread Sherm Pendley
framework - and I'd like to give my users what they want. As long as CamelBones is linked against a shared libperl.dylib, an application that includes the framework in its .app bundle will only be compatible with the version of libperl that the framework is linked against. That's a p

Re: Camelbones/Cocoa questions

2002-10-24 Thread Rich Morin
fit for what I need, if I can make his code work with CamelBones. FYI, the source and project files are available at http://ranchero.com/downloads/mactech/CopyPathPluginSource.sit As of the October issue, the second part of the series had not shown up in MacTech; It is said to cover "

Re: Camelbones/Cocoa questions

2002-10-23 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 01:55 AM, Rich Morin wrote: I'm interested in registering a Camelbones app as an item that will show up whenever the user control-clicks on a folder or a document (ala Path Finder and BBEdit). Clues, anyone? The same topic, although not in Perl, ca

Camelbones/Cocoa questions

2002-10-23 Thread Rich Morin
A while back, Dan and Sherm gave some pointers about setting up contextual menus. Looking over their suggestions, however, I'm not sure that they are applicable to my problem. Specifically, I'm interested in registering a Camelbones app as an item that will show up whenever the us

Re: contextual menus, using CamelBones?

2002-10-03 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 3, 2002, at 04:13 PM, Dan Sugalski wrote: > Sweet! Seriously! Apple's dev tools make me wish I'd had $10K to spend on a NeXT cube, way back when - and another $5K for the development kit. I think that's what they charged for it - it was definitely four figures. Kids these

Re: contextual menus, using CamelBones?

2002-10-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 1:47 PM -0400 10/3/02, Sherm Pendley wrote: >On Thursday, October 3, 2002, at 01:22 PM, Dan Sugalski wrote: > >>Anything that inherits from NSResponder can have a contextual menu >>attached. You have to programmatically build up an NSMenu with >>attached NSMenuItems and then attach it to the

Re: contextual menus, using CamelBones?

2002-10-03 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 3, 2002, at 01:22 PM, Dan Sugalski wrote: > Anything that inherits from NSResponder can have a contextual menu > attached. You have to programmatically build up an NSMenu with attached > NSMenuItems and then attach it to the NSResponder child object. (Use > the setMenu met

Re: contextual menus, using CamelBones?

2002-10-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 8:58 AM -0700 10/3/02, Rich Morin wrote: >I would like to be able to create a CamelBones app that will show up >in contextual menus for the Finder, PathFinder, etc. In addition, I'd >like the app itself to have contextual menus. I don't see anything on >the subject i

contextual menus, using CamelBones?

2002-10-03 Thread Rich Morin
I would like to be able to create a CamelBones app that will show up in contextual menus for the Finder, PathFinder, etc. In addition, I'd like the app itself to have contextual menus. I don't see anything on the subject in "Learning Cocoa with Onjective-C". Suggestions?

Re: Woes of 5.8.0 and CamelBones

2002-09-26 Thread Casey West
est wrote: : >: : >: >I've recompiled CamelBones for 5.8.0, which I installed over 5.6.0 in : >: >the default Apple locations. When I compiled the framework I used : >: >Apples instructions for making it able to be included in : >: >applications. : >: : >: Sounds to me li

Re: Woes of 5.8.0 and CamelBones

2002-09-26 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, September 26, 2002, at 05:08 PM, Casey West wrote: > I started a brand new project and in > the Perl code I put 'use Text::CSV_XS' and as soon as I did the > program broke with the previously mentioned symbol errors. Any non-XS > module usage and all is well. A version mismatch in

Re: Woes of 5.8.0 and CamelBones

2002-09-26 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 5:08 PM -0400 9/26/02, Casey West wrote: >It was Wednesday, September 25, 2002 when Sherm Pendley took the >soap box, saying: >: On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, at 03:51 PM, Casey West wrote: >: >: >I've recompiled CamelBones for 5.8.0, which I installed over 5.6.0 i

Re: Woes of 5.8.0 and CamelBones

2002-09-26 Thread Casey West
It was Wednesday, September 25, 2002 when Sherm Pendley took the soap box, saying: : On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, at 03:51 PM, Casey West wrote: : : >I've recompiled CamelBones for 5.8.0, which I installed over 5.6.0 in : >the default Apple locations. When I compiled the frame

Re: Woes of 5.8.0 and CamelBones

2002-09-25 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, at 03:51 PM, Casey West wrote: > I've recompiled CamelBones for 5.8.0, which I installed over 5.6.0 in > the default Apple locations. When I compiled the framework I used > Apples instructions for making it able to be included in > applicatio

Woes of 5.8.0 and CamelBones

2002-09-25 Thread Casey West
I've recompiled CamelBones for 5.8.0, which I installed over 5.6.0 in the default Apple locations. When I compiled the framework I used Apples instructions for making it able to be included in applications. I wrote a program to post entries to my use Perl Journal. Below is what I g

OS X core tasks with Perl [Was: Re: camelbones with 5.8.0]

2002-09-04 Thread Emmanuel. M. Decarie
>On Monday, September 2, 2002, at 08:38 pm, Dan Sugalski wrote: > >Perl's not just an add-on toy here--OS X uses it internally. There >are a variety of scripts in the system and in the installer that use >perl. For them to allow easy install/removal of a core component >would be foolish, since i

Re: camelbones with 5.8.0

2002-09-03 Thread Rich & Michaela
Vincent D Murphy wrote: > > overall i feel a bit let down by apple's integration of perl. i guess i > was expecting too much; while the perl supplied works as advertised, i > have always regarded perl as a 'living' piece of software which i like > to keep upgraded. i have also felt that it's

Re: camelbones with 5.8.0

2002-09-03 Thread Vincent D Murphy
t CB is more important right now. thanks again for your help. BTW, sure enough, the source is in /Developer/Source/CamelBones. kind regards, -vincent

Re: camelbones with 5.8.0

2002-09-02 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 9:54 PM +0100 9/2/02, Vincent D Murphy wrote: >On Monday, September 2, 2002, at 08:38 pm, Dan Sugalski wrote: >>One more reason to not blow away the system perl... > >thank you sherm and dan for your helpful suggestions. > >overall i feel a bit let down by apple's integration of perl. i >gue

Re: camelbones with 5.8.0

2002-09-02 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 3:16 PM -0400 9/2/02, Sherm Pendley wrote: >On Monday, September 2, 2002, at 01:53 PM, Vincent D Murphy wrote: >> the website says you will need to rebuild camelbones from source >>to relink it against your perl if it is different from 5.6.0. > >That's almos

Re: camelbones with 5.8.0

2002-09-02 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, September 2, 2002, at 01:53 PM, Vincent D Murphy wrote: > i upgraded perl to 5.8.0 on my 10.1.4 box last week. now i want to use > camelbones. Before I get to your real question, I'd like to point out one thing. Using CB this way will mean that all of your end users wil

Re: camelbones with 5.8.0

2002-09-02 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 2/9/02 18:53, "Vincent D Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi- > > i'm sorry if it turns out that i am asking an overly obvious question. > > i upgraded perl to 5.8.0 on my 10.1.4 box last week. now i want to use > camelbones. the website says y

camelbones with 5.8.0

2002-09-02 Thread Vincent D Murphy
hi- i'm sorry if it turns out that i am asking an overly obvious question. i upgraded perl to 5.8.0 on my 10.1.4 box last week. now i want to use camelbones. the website says you will need to rebuild camelbones from source to relink it against your perl if it is different from 5.6.0

CamelBones and Unicode

2002-07-19 Thread Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni
Hello everyone, First, a big thank to Sherm Pendley for writing CamelBones. That's really a great piece of software! Now the problem :-) I'm writing a small app, which is currently very simple: a window that contains a NSTextField and a button. Connected to the button, a function tha

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-11 Thread Scott R. Godin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sherm Pendley) wrote: > On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 11:35 PM, Ken Williams wrote: > > > a POD page and do File->Print->Preview, the result PDF is some sort of > > screen capture of the first part of the POD window, including the > > gumdrop b

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-06 Thread Brigham Mecham
Hello Sherm and Co I have started to use the Camelbones framework and am very grateful for your help and hard work Sherm. One thing that I personally still need is either more examples or a link to a site where I can get more help using it. For example, how do you open a new window? Use a

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 11:35 PM, Ken Williams wrote: > a POD page and do File->Print->Preview, the result PDF is some sort of > screen capture of the first part of the POD window, including the > gumdrop buttons in the upper left corner. Is this a known issue? Yes - The text view doesn't

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread Ken Williams
er than later. For the most part, CamelBones as > it is, does most of what I set out to do; database front-ends > and a nice POD viewer that uses readable fonts. Hi Sherm, I realize this is a lame way for me to enter this discussion, but I have a comment about the POD viewer. I was hop

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread Sherm Pendley
s a string" forKey: @"This is the key"]; >> >> The equivalent in Perl would look like this: >> >> our $dict; >> $dict = NSMutableDictionary->alloc->initWithCapacity(5); >> $dict->setObject_forKey("This is a string", "This i

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread Sherm Pendley
tions with >> Perl." > > This book I'm _very_ interested in. There's an interesting story behind it, too. Dan was contracted to write the book, and begun working on it with the intention of writing his own Cocoa/Perl bridge. He had just gotten started when I announced

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread bob ackerman
On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 12:39 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote: > On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 02:37 PM, bob ackerman wrote: > >> ok. i am a not-know-much. what i know, i read in the camelbones doc. >> please help me understand. > > Sorry, I didn't mean that as person

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 02:37 PM, bob ackerman wrote: > ok. i am a not-know-much. what i know, i read in the camelbones doc. > please help me understand. Sorry, I didn't mean that as personal criticism. I'm just trying to get a handle on how others feel about having the a

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 5/7/02 at 13:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sherm Pendley) wrote: > On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 01:34 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote: > > > I concur as to the books usefulness. I started by using Apple's > > "Learning Cocoa" > > I was somewhat disappointed with "Learning Cocoa." It's not a bad > book; > I

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread bob ackerman
On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 11:17 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote: > On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 12:45 PM, bob ackerman wrote: > >> say camelbones doesn't do 'views' which limits are ability as well. not >> ready for pryme tyme. > > You've made similar c

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 12:45 PM, bob ackerman wrote: > say camelbones doesn't do 'views' which limits are ability as well. not > ready for pryme tyme. You've made similar comments in the past, and I'm wondering - how many people here see not being able to w

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread Sherm Pendley
itten by Dan Sugalski. It's going to be called "Programming Cocoa Applications with Perl." I don't know what the release schedule is; it's not on the "upcoming releases" web page yet, so I imagine it's not scheduled until September or October at the ear

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 5/7/02 at 18:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kay Röpke) wrote: > You *need* the book by Aaron Hillegas. It's an introduction into Cocoa > programming (the OO-library which CamelBones is the > Perl side of...). > The book uses Objective-C (but if you know some basic C you will find

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread bob ackerman
ave no experience with the mac > gui (i don't even know what to call it). Camelbones seems like a good > starting point for what I want to do - write small event-driven apps in > "native mac" instead of perl/tk - ideally, re-use my perl/tk scripts with > new widget

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread Kay Röpke
ave no experience with the mac > gui (i don't even know what to call it). Camelbones seems like a good > starting point for what I want to do - write small event-driven apps in > "native mac" instead of perl/tk - ideally, re-use my perl/tk scripts > with new widget

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