Re: [MBZ] Test

2007-01-27 Thread Chris Kueny
I just blocked him. Case closed. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test Glenn, It failed... Here's the result: Internal Server Error T

Re: [MBZ] Test

2007-01-27 Thread Marshall Booth
Chris Kueny wrote: I just blocked him. Case closed. You blocked Glenn? Why?? Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Terminology

2007-01-27 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: <. I think "hi-test" and "foot-feed" are terms used by those of a certain age. BTW, "hi-test" has dropped 20 cents in the last ten days. Here. He was referring to hi-test in a diesel. I'd like to know what he means by that. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't

Re: [MBZ] Cold and fuel gelling

2007-01-27 Thread Marshall Booth
Levi Smith wrote: Well, you can add my name to the list that no longer believes that they sell fuel that will remain liquid at temps in the area. I've been testing that theory this year(my first real winter in upstate NY with my 83' 300D). It made it at 5F without issue other than a slight lack

Re: [MBZ] Test

2007-01-27 Thread Chris Kueny
Every post had come as an attachment, which leads to no where. And I keep clicking on the links, even though I know it probably wont work. And it doesn't. Has anyone gotten any of his messages? Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback - Origina

Re: [MBZ] "special bolts"

2007-01-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Yep, had that happen 2x on my 86 Cherokee -- blowing all the oil out the back of the intake manifold. First time they were supposed to mill out the intake manifold and put in some sort of gasket, but the dealer (may his stomach roast in hell) only gooped some silicone sealer in there. And whe

Re: [MBZ] Letterman

2007-01-27 Thread LT Don
This morning, I downloaded Touch Of Grey lyrics and desktop-published them w/ a pic of Jerry. Went to Dollar General over lunch and spent $5 on a frame. Now proudly displayed on my wall. If you ask what Touch Of Grey has to do with me, ask Kleb. He's met me. D. On 1/25/07, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL P

Re: [MBZ] Test

2007-01-27 Thread Marshall Booth
Chris Kueny wrote: Every post had come as an attachment, which leads to no where. And I keep clicking on the links, even though I know it probably wont work. And it doesn't. Has anyone gotten any of his messages? So what have you done to inform Glenn that his posts are creating a problem a

Re: [MBZ] Test

2007-01-27 Thread Chris Kueny
I sent him a message off-list a couple of days ago. I don't know enough about the workings of these lists to help him resolve it, but I hope that he and Kaleb will figure it out. It was pretty drastic to block him, and I will undo that. I might wait a few more days before I go chasing after h

Re: [MBZ] Test

2007-01-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Glen's on Netzero, which I believe means that he's using their software. Either he needs to configure it to send plain text, or he needs to use webmail, like maybe gmail. Didn't we used to have all sorts of problems with somebody who used Juno for email? Did that get fixed, or did he drop out? Mit

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-27 Thread David Brodbeck
LT Don wrote: > It is unfortunate that our leader must ride around in bullet-proof vehicles, > insulated from interaction with the common man over whom he Lords. That's been the trend ever since Kennedy. The Henry Ford Museum has a collection of Presidential vehicles. It's interesting to see how

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap status

2007-01-27 Thread David Brodbeck
Jim Cathey wrote: > The floats in the 115 are much harder/messier to get out. I suppose > someday I'll have a look. > I ran a couple tanks of B100 in my '83 300D and the fuel gauge suddenly started working better. Probably had something to do with all the black crud that promptly plugged up m

Re: [MBZ] Terminology

2007-01-27 Thread David Brodbeck
Marshall Booth wrote: > He was referring to hi-test in a diesel. I'd like to know what he means > by that. > Shell sells a "premium diesel" that they think is worth a substantial premium over everyone else's brew. I assume they put some kind of additive package in it.

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-27 Thread Mitch Haley
David Brodbeck wrote: > > LT Don wrote: > > It is unfortunate that our leader must ride around in bullet-proof vehicles, > > insulated from interaction with the common man over whom he Lords. > > That's been the trend ever since Kennedy. Yep. Since Kennedy, they've been expanding the SS quite

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Bob DuPuy wrote: > > It never ceases to amaze me that the same "Bush is infringing on my > freedoms" crowed are also the same folks that advocate the Dem > policies of cradle to grave socialism and government control over even > the must mundane aspects of life. If you're talking about me, you'

Re: [MBZ] Source for glove box lid

2007-01-27 Thread OK Don
Call Rusty - he can get LOTS of stuff that isn't on the website. On 1/26/07, Lee Einer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My beloved's 1980 300CD has a glove compartment lid mechanism which keeps jamming and getting stuck due to the molded plastic inner shell of the lid being busted up. Does anybody kno

Re: [MBZ] A$$ dragging

2007-01-27 Thread Jim Cathey
doing that would make her less prone to sag? I checked Rusty and wonder just how much shim she wants. 9mm,14mm, 19mm! Dunno, but supposedly you can recognize them by the number of bumps on them, if you want to pull one out. Male, female, other? -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Source for glove box lid

2007-01-27 Thread Jim Cathey
Call Rusty - he can get LOTS of stuff that isn't on the website. Or get a used one from Kleb. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Interesting Article about Million mile cars

2007-01-27 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Donald - the folks at MBUSA are interested in stories about people who really have a lot of miles on their cars and are working with MSN to get selected stories told. The lady that works at MBUSA PR shop, and is their new coordinator to MBCA, recently asked about club members with high mileage

[MBZ] RPM consistency and longevity of engine

2007-01-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
The question I have thought about for some time is this: When someone puts a lot of highway miles on a car, their engine spends many hours at approximately the same RPM. Could this cause any inordinate wear (as opposed to varying engine speed more, gradually and smoothly of course)? I know that wh

Re: [MBZ] RPM consistency and longevity of engine

2007-01-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Only if you routinely exceed 2500 ft/min or so on the cylinder walls -- that's the point at which no oil can prevent rapid wear, not matter what you use. Otherwise, pretty much the higher the load, the more rapid the wear. Peter

Re: [MBZ] Terminology

2007-01-27 Thread John M McIntosh
Various folks from the VW diesel clubs have asked shell canada what's the different, more cetane? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetane_number etc, and were told well not that, just more additives etc. Certainly I don't think the premium price you pay for it buys you anything. Marketing gr

Re: [MBZ] beyond crack

2007-01-27 Thread kevin kraly
your comment about people raising the price when an overpriced car fails to sell is even more amazing! There's a 1987 560SEL with 102K miles on it that's been on Craigslist for a while at $8K. It just posted today for $9K after going unsold for many weeks!. I don't get it! Kevin in Hillsbor

Re: [MBZ] RPM consistency and longevity of engine

2007-01-27 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Brian - when an engine is new, the cylinder walls and rings haven't "seated" themselves, so almost all engines should be operated at varying speeds so as not to "glaze" those surfaces. If they get glazed, oil consumption will be higher, so the theory goes. For the typical new car buyer in the

Re: [MBZ] RPM consistency and longevity of engine

2007-01-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
Peter, are you referring to 2500 feet per minute? I think I may have exceeded that one time in my 240D. I am curious, though, what you are referring to by 2500ft/min. Brian On 1/26/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Only if you routinely exceed 2500 ft/min or so on the cylinder wa

Re: [MBZ] RPM consistency and longevity of engine

2007-01-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
Which of course bodes poorly for the used car buyer. You know, I was just thinking as I walked the dogs that I wish that the two classic autos that we have now could last the rest of my life. I'm pretty much satisfied, though they both could use a boost in power, and better fuel mileage. Unfortu

Re: [MBZ] beyond crack

2007-01-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
This is something that we learned early on in our search for an Benz: There seem to be two major camps when it comes to pricing. One seems to play on the MB name and prey on buyers (and some buyers go for it). The other is, well, what I found on this list (and I was quite pleasantly surprised at t

Re: [MBZ] Letterman

2007-01-27 Thread Bob Rentfro
Sweet... Bob R - Original Message - From: "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Letterman This morning, I downloaded Touch Of Grey lyrics and desktop-published them w/ a pic of Jerry. Went to Dollar Gen

Re: [MBZ] Letterman...Now OT very dry humorous comments about BarryManilow...

2007-01-27 Thread Bob Rentfro
I met Barry (I can call him Barry) when he attended a performance of the Young Americans my daughter was in in Palm Springs. No one else, evidently, had enough sack to walk up to him and his posse. I thanked him for coming and told him it really ment a lot to the kids that he showed up (even tho

Re: [MBZ] local benz for sale

2007-01-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
Wood ash tray intact. Curved wood piece on far pass. side. of dash. Radio. Antenna. Hmm. What else? Brian 83 240D On 1/26/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Local guy selling a 1984 300D- says it has a tranny issue and a coked injector. If I buy it and part it out, who needs what? --

Re: [MBZ] local benz for sale

2007-01-27 Thread John Robbins
On 1/26/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Local guy selling a 1984 300D- says it has a tranny issue and a coked injector. If I buy it and part it out, who needs what? If its just a coked injector **might** be interested in engine. Your in MO right? John '79 300SD (on

Re: [MBZ] R134a what does it smell like?

2007-01-27 Thread mykd1
As far as I'm aware the gas itself has no scent. Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 4:54 PM Subject: [MBZ] R134a what does it

Re: [MBZ] local benz for sale

2007-01-27 Thread Sunil Hari
I'm in Columbus, OH. On 1/27/07, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/26/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Local guy selling a 1984 300D- says it has a tranny issue and a coked >> injector. If I buy it and part it out, who needs what? >> If its just a coked injector...

Re: [MBZ] Terminology

2007-01-27 Thread John W. Reames III
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Marshall Booth wrote: > He was referring to hi-test in a diesel. I'd like to know what he means > by that. I was going to say its by Lubro-Moly, but I see they changed their name to Liqui-Moly, anyhow its made by the maker of Diesel Purge and sold by rusty, the actual prod

Re: [MBZ] beyond crack

2007-01-27 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
I just had this seller e-mail me pictures. Looks like repaint job with color off a bit and peeling clear coat. I guess if it were perfect it would be 15K. Has NY plates. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI-Original Message- This is something

Re: [MBZ] S15 was "special bolts"

2007-01-27 Thread Curt Raymond
I've heard that and it amazes me. My Jimmy stranded me exactly once and thats because I ignored a dying fuel pump. Other than that I had a water pump put in because the old one was leaking. Ours leaked exactly one quart of oil per thousand miles from new when using 5w30 oil, in the summer I'd u

Re: [MBZ] Cold and fuel gelling

2007-01-27 Thread Curt Raymond
Good advice. I've been unhappy with my 190D's performance on these single digit days so yesterday I picked up a bottle of Power Service Diesel Supplement. I put in maybe a pint right at the autoparts store. The car had been running okay but started harder than I liked and would quit if I didn't

[MBZ] selling my 300D

2007-01-27 Thread Sunil Hari
Selling my 1992 300D 2.5T - it's a fantastic car, but it's too nice for me. My plan is to downgrade to a 240D (the "student model" for a career student). Basics: 290Kmi, smoke silver (702) exterior, beige MB-Tex interior. Details: Everything works but the rear passenger overhead light. Full r

Re: [MBZ] beyond crack

2007-01-27 Thread Mitch Haley
kevin kraly wrote: > > There's a 1987 560SEL with 102K miles on it that's been on Craigslist for a > while at $8K. It just posted today for $9K after going unsold for many > weeks!. I don't get it! Next week, will it be $7k, "price reduced from $9k for quick sale"?

Re: [MBZ] selling my 300D

2007-01-27 Thread Ralph W
Sunil, I'd be curious to hear what you end up selling it for. Do you have a price range in mind? As you can see by my signature list I'm swimming in cars again and need to lose a few. My '90 is similar to yours and probably the most valuable other than the wife's gasser '01. It would be nice to

Re: [MBZ] beyond crack

2007-01-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: > I was quite pleasantly surprised at the price that one could buy an actual > Mercedes Benz for. I bought my W116SD for two reasons. Firstly, I would have paid 2-4x as much for a good running rustfree 1980's turbo VW, which was the first car I thought of when I decided to p

Re: [MBZ] local benz for sale

2007-01-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Ralph W wrote: > > I've got a 617 wagon engine and tranny for sale in MI. With the desireable SLS pump on the head. I think it'd be fun to drop the engine and struts (or would you need SLS sedan struts?) into a stick shift 240d and use it to haul/tow stuff. A 300Dt stick might be a little doggy

Re: [MBZ] RPM consistency and longevity of engine

2007-01-27 Thread Curt Raymond
As we've heard in the past BTTT WRONG! Haven't heard that in awhile though... So actually whats happening when you're varying RPM on an engine thats breaking in is that you're trying to INCREASE wear. Specifically you want the rings to seat, that happens by wearing away a bit of the rings a

Re: [MBZ] "Slight damage," he says ...

2007-01-27 Thread andrew strasfogel
You just drive in one direction so no one can see the damage, since the left side is perfect. He was lucky to get $1700+ for that unrestorable car. On 1/26/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I like where he says you can't even detect the damage from inside the car! brian On 1/26/07,

[MBZ] Winding Road Internet Magazine

2007-01-27 Thread LarryT
Howdy - The latest issue of this ever-improving, free, internet-based magazine has been released for downloading. This magazine now has David E Davis as publisher (for a while now actually), formerly publisher of Automobile and Car & Driver. Mr. Davis' presence has seen the magazine grow f

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-27 Thread andrew strasfogel
So whom do you like, Mitch? Please don't say John McCain... On 1/26/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bob DuPuy wrote: > > It never ceases to amaze me that the same "Bush is infringing on my > freedoms" crowed are also the same folks that advocate the Dem > policies of cradle to grav

Re: [MBZ] Terminology

2007-01-27 Thread Marshall Booth
David Brodbeck wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: He was referring to hi-test in a diesel. I'd like to know what he means by that. Shell sells a "premium diesel" that they think is worth a substantial premium over everyone else's brew. I assume they put some kind of additive package in it. The

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-27 Thread LarryT
Even though you didn;t ask me, I like the looks & sounds of Sen. Brownback (Ks) although it;s much too early to know for certain who will or won't actually be running, he's in the early stages of a campaign. He's a supporter of the Constitution - a rarity these days. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 7

Re: [MBZ] S15 was "special bolts"

2007-01-27 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007, Curt Raymond wrote: > > I've heard that and it amazes me. My Jimmy stranded me exactly once and thats > because I ignored a dying fuel pump. > Other than that I had a water pump put in because the old one was leaking. > Ours leaked exactly one quart of oil per thousand mile

[MBZ] Help With WVO/SVO Web Sites, 85 300D

2007-01-27 Thread Tom Harruff
At today's MBCA Section Breakfast meeting I had a lady owner of an 85 300D asking questions about running her car on WVO or SVO. I know some of you have been through the journey and could provide reverences/web sites of interest to this Mercedes owner. Although she is in SW Florida (Naples are

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-27 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007, andrew strasfogel wrote: > So whom do you like, Mitch? Please don't say John McCain... Cthulhu gets my vote (why choose the lesser of two evils?) -j.

Re: [MBZ] selling my 300D

2007-01-27 Thread OK Don
What's the condition, or miles when replaced, of the belt tensioner and the vacuum pump? I think you're crazy for downgrading from this car to a 240D, but who am I to judge? Interested in trading for my '81 240D manual tranny car? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "Even if you're on the right track,

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-27 Thread Zeitgeist
I'm still torn between either Kronos or Kang...or, the FSM as a longshot. On 1/27/07, John W. Reames III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cthulhu gets my vote (why choose the lesser of two evils?) -j. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state" '87 300TD intercooler/pr

[MBZ] Semi-OT Manual

2007-01-27 Thread Frederick Moir
Hi, All. Rummaging among my books, found an 81 Rabbit Owners Manual gas/diesel. Free for the asking. Fred Moir Lynn MA KlattaH KlattaH (Boston version) "Democracy is based on the assumption that a million men are wiser than one man. How's that again? I missed something" "Autocracy is based on the

Re: [MBZ] Terminology

2007-01-27 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Marshall - does Exxon/Mobil actually refine (make) any Diesel fuel anymore? I know that Mobil divested itself of their refineries, to Valero. And some Mobil stations have been changed to Luke Oil - but they mostly get Valero product around here in SJ. The local truck stops, retail stations, an

[MBZ] OT: Imperial Co-President

2007-01-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Seems like it just isn't the pres with an entourage. --R (who knows this is different, but the same) http://www.dmregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070127/NEWS02/701270355

Re: [MBZ] beyond crack

2007-01-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
Mitch intimated: I bought my W116SD for two reasons. Firstly, I would have paid 2-4x as much for a good running rustfree 1980's turbo VW (snip) See that's nutty to me. Is it just that there are fewer older VWs available than older MBs? Or that they are so popular with young people? (I suppose a t

Re: [MBZ] RPM consistency and longevity of engine

2007-01-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
Awesome. Thanks guys. Brian On 1/27/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The life span difference between an engine used for highway miles & an engine used for in town miles has nothing to do with RPM variation. The issue is that 80% of an engine's cylinder wall wear occurs during the

Re: [MBZ] beyond crack

2007-01-27 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007, Zoltan Finks wrote: > Or is it that a lot of those whose tastes lean toward MBs can afford newer > ones, and thus the demand is lower? (of course now we must factor in the > growing popularity of diesels among those interested in alternative fuel > possibilities). SWMBO dictat

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-27 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > So whom do you like, Mitch? Please don't say John McCain... We just got rid of McLame's MI campaign manager from the 2000 election cycle (John Swartz) this month (he was my state senator for a long time, then my congresscritter for two years). McLame actually won M

Re: [MBZ] beyond crack

2007-01-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: > > Mitch intimated: > I bought my W116SD for two reasons. Firstly, I would have paid 2-4x as much > for a good running rustfree 1980's turbo VW (snip) > > See that's nutty to me. I couldn't figure it out either. $550 for a 300SD with bad upholstery or $1500 for a Jetta wit

[MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason

2007-01-27 Thread Euan
Hi there family Yesterday, I parked beside the rarest of rarities in NZ. A 1979 280TE, NZ-new, 2 owners, auto-trans with ... wait for it... 50 K original miles on the clock. And the owners may be thinking of selling it. So in the even rarer event that SWMBO would agree to owning a second W12

Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason

2007-01-27 Thread woodlandtaylors
Euan, Where in NZ are you? I'm meant to be there in a month or so. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Euan Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 1:56 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason Hi the

Re: [MBZ] beyond crack

2007-01-27 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007, Mitch Haley wrote: > > > Zoltan Finks wrote: > I couldn't figure it out either. $550 for a 300SD with bad upholstery > or $1500 for a Jetta with worn-out mechanicals, which should I choose? > In fairness, a mid-1980s 190d, especially a turbo, would have cost more > than a 19

Re: [MBZ] beyond crack

2007-01-27 Thread ts
Larry T you wisdom is true and priceless. Regards Tom - Original Message - From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] beyond crack Hi Tom, Interesting story - evidently there are people that you des

Re: [MBZ] beyond crack

2007-01-27 Thread David Brodbeck
Mitch Haley wrote: > In fairness, a mid-1980s 190d, especially a turbo, would have cost more > than a 1986ish Jetta. I think the main Mercedes price advantage is that > they had good diesel cars, including turbos, in the 1970s, while VWs > are all newer and more valuable due to age. (I did not want

Re: [MBZ] beyond crack

2007-01-27 Thread Mitch Haley
"John W. Reames III" wrote: > > What year SD? The 116's all are type II (Servo) ACC, the 126's are not. > How "bad" is the upholstery? Will sheepskins work OK? The fronts were OK when I got it, the back was unsalvageable. Climate control dead except for the fan. Shocks were Sears and worn, on

Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason

2007-01-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Euan wrote: > Will the imminent replacement of my suspension struts jack my butt up too? If they leak too badly to hold pressure it sure will. I just hope you don't have failed accumulators, which resulted in pressure spikes that blew the strut seals and hammered the control valve to death. Ad