[MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260

Re: [MBZ] Right of way

2007-05-30 Thread Redghost
What Roger said On May 29, 2007, at 8:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] water in Seattle

2007-05-30 Thread Redghost
Do not speak ill of our beer! We brew the most tasty sort of malted beverage this side of the Rhine and nothing at all like the fermented pig's waste found at industrial breweries On May 29, 2007, at 8:14 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Sounds like that "beer" y'all make out that way. --R Redgho

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-30 Thread Rich Thomas
I was always the classsmartass, esp in physics. In high school my physics tchr marked me wrong on a test for Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, where I said it was position and momentum (not velocity). I argued mightily I was correct to no avail til he told me to shut up. So I went to the l

Re: [MBZ] Gasser Heresy

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
nothing if you like 240D's. Myself I would rather have performance if I am going to get the same fuel mileage anyway. Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: So, what is wrong with that? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Tur

Re: [MBZ] Gasser Heresy

2007-05-30 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
So, what is wrong with that? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: R

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have not really found that to be the case with the gas engines I have had. LarryT wrote: A gas engine will eat you out of house & home. They constantly need *something* - no matter how nice or how well maintained. Let them get a little behind on maintanence and thangs can get ugly (financi

Re: [MBZ] Gasser Heresy

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
after driving a 420, you would not want a 300, it would feel like a 240D Dan Weeks wrote: "Royce Engler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Anybody have any thoughts about why I shouldn't jump on this one? (other than the fact that it's NOT a diesel...) Royce Engler '85 300TD 298K Uh, because

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread LarryT
You wrote:> That's a very wise decision. Thise kinds of things - where hoses, etc are hidden from view and can leak and you;ll never know its leaking. Then some expensive damage happens. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Russ Williams
Levi, R-12 connectors look like a Tire Stem welded to the pipe. When R-12 to R-134 conversions are done the R-134 adapter is screwed on top of the R-12 connector. Some of the 134 adapters have Red Lock-Tite (Stud & Bearing) on the threads making it hard to remove the 134 adapter. But it can be

Re: [MBZ] You think we love our Benzes....

2007-05-30 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > For some reason the link sent me to a Yahoo page with the message "Sorry the > page you requested was not found" Somehow he copied the shortened displayed text instead of the link itself: See the ellipsis here? There's probably another 50 characters missing:

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
John, We are so sorry for your loss. We will be praying for you. Craig & Shirley McCluskey Los Alamos, NM

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 30 May 2007 09:04:39 -0500 Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's energy not momentum. > > --R > > Craig McCluskey wrote: > > On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:04:42 -0500 Rich Thomas > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Maybe roll cages and restraints are the answer, though m1v1

Re: [MBZ] Distilled water here and there

2007-05-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 29 May 2007 11:12:18 -0400 Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pure distilled water is not electrolytic, but it is a rather good > solvent and it will tend to "pull" minerals from the aluminum alloys > in the head. And DI water is even worse! Craig

Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor

2007-05-30 Thread LarryT
Hi Bob, I checked it and it looks fine. Don;t know if you have ever held one and seen how they go together and come apart - everything is magnetism - and there's one wire that goes to the center of the unit and when power is applied, the 2 pieceslock together magnetically. Remove the power

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread John M McIntosh
On May 30, 2007, at 6:41 AM, LarryT wrote: That may not be a problem for you - and a big gas W126 is unequalled in comfort and security on the open road (unless you find a W140) - but just be prepared for a healthy maintanence program Oddly enough my w140 is having it's 60K mile/92K km ser

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Jim Cathey
Also I believe the high side and low side valves are different, to prevent consumers from accidentally connecting a recharge can to the high side. This was possible in R12 systems and led to injuries as the can would explode under pressure. This was possible in _some_ R12 systems, but some late

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Allan Streib
"Levi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, then there are actually TWO shrader valves, one on top of the > other? Or is the R12 one removed from the inside, then this R134 > with shrader fitted to the outside? Or is the R12 Shrader still > there and this is just an outer fitting? As I recal

[MBZ] Awl

2007-05-30 Thread Jim Cathey
For the first time ever I've seen M1 15W50 at our Costco! They usually have two other weights (green and blue boxes), but this time they also had the red boxes. $30 for six quarts. I didn't buy any, but I did buy 6 gallons of Delo last time. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Jim Cathey
So, then there are actually TWO shrader valves, one on top of the other? No. Either you remove the one in the R12 fitting before you put on an R134a fitting that has its own, or the R134a fitting has an extension to push the button on the R12's valve. The latter is a pita because when/if the v

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Bob Rentfro
Larry T typed: "gas engine will eat you out of house & home. They constantly need *something* - no matter how nice or how well maintained. Let them get a little behind on maintanence and thangs can get ugly (financially speaking) pretty fast. I had a few gas MBs and all were the same. $25

Re: [MBZ] You think we love our Benzes....

2007-05-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
For some reason the link sent me to a Yahoo page with the message "Sorry the page you requested was not found" On 5/30/07, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey guys. We love our Benzes, but take a look at these guys... http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/S...50/lebanon.htm

Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor

2007-05-30 Thread Bob Rentfro
SOLD! Let me know off list where to send the moola and I 'll give you my address. Thanks. Bob R. - Original Message - From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor Yep, it work

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-30 Thread Rich Thomas
That's energy not momentum. --R Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:04:42 -0500 Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe roll cages and restraints are the answer, though m1v1=m2v2 still applies? It's an inelastic collision, so what applies is, 12

Re: [MBZ] Gasser Heresy

2007-05-30 Thread BillR
You really should bite your tongue. Not that I can buy it until my disability suit gets settled. I was told SS would be the hard one to get, but they came through the first time [I just fit the criterion]. It is the company disability policy that is giving me problems. BillR -Original Messa

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread LarryT
A gas engine will eat you out of house & home. They constantly need *something* - no matter how nice or how well maintained. Let them get a little behind on maintanence and thangs can get ugly (financially speaking) pretty fast. I had a few gas MBs and all were the same. $25 for this, $100 f

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Levi Smith
So, then there are actually TWO shrader valves, one on top of the other? Or is the R12 one removed from the inside, then this R134 with shrader fitted to the outside? Or is the R12 Shrader still there and this is just an outer fitting? Levi On 5/30/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor

2007-05-30 Thread LarryT
Yep, it worked when I removed it. I thought it was the problem and replaced it - when I opened it up I found the little wire running behind it was chafed they and needed to be replaced - but I'll open the box and take a look at it to be sure it's useable. They are pretty basic - very seldom g

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Jim Cathey
In an R12 system converted to R134a, I've heard that the service port adapter fittings are "permanently" installed. Is this done with threadlocker? Could they be removed to do a reverse conversion, e.g. by using heat? Yup. And the cheapies don't even really need that. I've removed a connecto

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Allan Streib
In an R12 system converted to R134a, I've heard that the service port adapter fittings are "permanently" installed. Is this done with threadlocker? Could they be removed to do a reverse conversion, e.g. by using heat? Allan Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Hmm... Dunno, I don't know

Re: [MBZ] water in Seattle

2007-05-30 Thread Jim Cathey
I lived in WA for a few years, couldn't take the constant liquid sunshine. Never had to water anything though. Not exactly true of the (much larger) dry eastern part of the State. The center is a nice dry sagebrush near-desert. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Jim Cathey
Hmm... Dunno, I don't know what R12 connectors are like. They look an awful lot like a big-brother version of your basic tire valve stem. (The metal part.) It *looks* like that's part of the pipe... But for all I know, perhaps it's somehow threaded onto a smaller piece on the pipe? Exactl

Re: [MBZ] water in Seattle

2007-05-30 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
You're paying for it??? I'd think you'd be able to wring enough water out of your clothes to run the house there :-) I lived in WA for a few years, couldn't take the constant liquid sunshine. Never had to water anything though. -Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Gasser Heresy

2007-05-30 Thread Mike Canfield
Sounds like an awful lot of good reasons to not buy that car to me and I haven't even seen it. Mike - Original Message - From: "Dan Weeks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasser Heresy "Royce Engler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> write

Re: [MBZ] Gasser Heresy

2007-05-30 Thread Dan Weeks
"Royce Engler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Anybody have any thoughts about why I shouldn't jump on this one? (other than the fact that it's NOT a diesel...) Royce Engler '85 300TD 298K Uh, because you could buy Don Snook's 300SEL with less than half the miles for less? My indy driv

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Levi Smith
Hmm... Dunno, I don't know what R12 connectors are like. There's a dust cap that screws on to a "pop-on" coupling that works with any of the R134 refill kits. It *looks* like that's part of the pipe... But for all I know, perhaps it's somehow threaded onto a smaller piece on the pipe? This is

Re: [MBZ] water in Seattle

2007-05-30 Thread BillR
This discussion is reminding me why I like my deep well and backup generator for hurricanes. No water or sewer bill, except for the every 5 years or so pump out bill. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Jeff Zedic
I'd buy Kaleb's car if I were you. Remember, it'll have the lifetime waranty on it! All the free spares you can handle! Jeff Zedic

Re: [MBZ] Right of way

2007-05-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
Okay, I'll do all that. Thanks, RLE. Brian On 5/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > < notice one of these little signs posted at the right edge of the bike trail. And > I was upset that two cars did not yield to me. I honestly did not think they > had the right of way to cro

[MBZ] You think we love our Benzes....

2007-05-30 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hey guys. We love our Benzes, but take a look at these guys... http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/S...50/lebanon.htm Take care and appreciate all we have, Chuck Phoenix AZ

[MBZ] Right of way

2007-05-30 Thread RELNGSON
> < notice one of these little signs posted at the right edge of the bike trail. > And > I was upset that two cars did not yield to me. I honestly did not think they > had the right of way to cross into the straight-line path of bicycle traffic > on the trail. Wife pointed out the miniature sto

Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor

2007-05-30 Thread Bob Rentfro
I don't have a replacement yetyours available? Is it it viable? Bob R. - Original Message - From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor Do you have a replacement clutch? I

Re: [MBZ] water in Seattle

2007-05-30 Thread Rich Thomas
Sounds like that "beer" y'all make out that way. --R Redghost wrote: What!?! You are paying for that stuff that just falls from the sky all day every day? Get thee down to Magnuson park for some of the rain barrels and set yourself up. Cisterns and all allow me to wash Gump with vintage

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Yes there was a bad batch of cams that found it's way into the Merc V8's but I am pretty sure given the mileage that it is either not one of the affected ones or has been replaced. - Original Message - From: "Ralph Morton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wedn

Re: [MBZ] water in Seattle

2007-05-30 Thread Redghost
What!?! You are paying for that stuff that just falls from the sky all day every day? Get thee down to Magnuson park for some of the rain barrels and set yourself up. Cisterns and all allow me to wash Gump with vintage water and I then reclaim it to use in the throne room. From there it

Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123

2007-05-30 Thread tom savage
andrew strasfogel wrote: Wonder what country has such cheap labor that this restoration makes economic sense? Croatia. From what I understand he bought the donor 500SE only to find out it had Bosnian papers and couldn't be registered, so he decided to build the car of his dreams instead. Ha

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Ralph Morton
Ooops. You are correct. The issues apply to the M116, not M117. RM --- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > actually, the 420 has the m116 engine. > > Ralph Morton wrote: > > --- Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Personally I think 230K is a lot of miles for a > >

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
actually, the 420 has the m116 engine. Ralph Morton wrote: --- Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Personally I think 230K is a lot of miles for a gasoline engine. I don't know specifically how they compare to the diesels for longevity. of course a lot depends on the maintenance history.

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well, lets see, for the same price, you can buy my '90 with WAY fewer miles on it. It will have the updated interior, updated sound system, updated tranny and so forth. http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=222085001&dealer_id=60113513&car_year=1990&search_type=both&num_records=&keyword

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Ralph Morton
--- Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally I think 230K is a lot of miles for a > gasoline engine. I > don't know specifically how they compare to the > diesels for > longevity. of course a lot depends on the > maintenance history. > > Remember it will take premium ga$oline. The

[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2007-05-30 Thread Tom Hargrave
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:22 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** *

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Allan Streib
Personally I think 230K is a lot of miles for a gasoline engine. I don't know specifically how they compare to the diesels for longevity. of course a lot depends on the maintenance history. Remember it will take premium ga$oline. "Royce Engler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I drove by my Indy's

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread John Freer
I can come up with 3 items Royce, 1. Timing chain 2. Timing chain 3. Timing chain My apologies to the real estate industry. On 5/29/07, Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I drove by my Indy's shop the other day and saw a 420SEL sitting out front with $5500 and "Sweet" painted on the winds

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Sunil Hari
how long do the gasser engines last? if it's a car that you'll look back and say, "I -wish- I'd bought that!" you've got to buy it. Cars come and go, but regret lasts a looong time. I'm still regretting not buying a particular wagon 1.5 years ago. On 5/29/07, Ralph Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Ralph Morton
--- "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Go with your heart. > And your wallet, in the event the cams need replacement (a common issue in these engines.) RM Be a better Globetrotter. G

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel

2007-05-30 Thread Royce Engler
On 5/29/07, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My wife passed away at the beginning of this month while she was road > bicycling... John, I am so sorry for your loss. Please know that we'll remember you and your wife in our prayers. Royce Engler

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Go with your heart. Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Royce Engler Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:19 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] HeresyI'm lookin

Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor

2007-05-30 Thread Bob Rentfro
Talk to me Larry my boy - Original Message - From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor Do you have a replacement clutch? I found one in my shed today when cleaning it out

Re: [MBZ] water in Seattle

2007-05-30 Thread RELNGSON
> < water is never an issue. He just goes out to the rain barrel and  > scoops up a bucket for all his water needs.  Since it rains 13 out of  > 12 months in Seattle, he has no use for potable water.  Except maybe  > to wash the blue handle on the fuel pump.  But for that he just uses  > the spigot

[MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Royce Engler
I drove by my Indy's shop the other day and saw a 420SEL sitting out front with $5500 and "Sweet" painted on the windshield. Called him today about some work I'm thinking about doing on the 300TD and asked him about the SEL. I thought he said it was an '87, and has about 230K on it. It supposedl

Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor

2007-05-30 Thread LarryT
Do you have a replacement clutch? I found one in my shed today when cleaning it out -- Make you a deal - ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info ht

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Mitch Haley
What kind of R134 connectors do you have? The ones with their own schrader valves, or the ones that fit over the R12 service connector and have a little pushrod to open the original schrader valve? If the latter, can you fix the leak by removing the adapter (or was it coated in permanent threadloc

[MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor

2007-05-30 Thread Bob Rentfro
I can change out the clutch on a York compressor, right? The compresor works when is switched on but the clutch is rattly and noisy when the compressor is off. Is this task covered in the manual? So...when I start twisting wrenches tomorrow I get to fix the ACcompressor clutch, rebuild the vacuu