Re: [MBZ] Porsche in PnP

2006-06-01 Thread Zeitgeist
You're a sick man. Please seek help. On 6/1/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Went to the PnP today in search of toys. Saw that the pen held a baby blue 914. Wonder how long that will take to strip. Bet it would make a good platform for a 4x4 Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: "I drive

[MBZ] Porsche in PnP

2006-06-01 Thread redghost
Went to the PnP today in search of toys. Saw that the pen held a baby blue 914. Wonder how long that will take to strip. Bet it would make a good platform for a 4x4 -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Porsche autobahn crash

2006-05-06 Thread l02turner
CTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche autobahn crash <> First, it's her, not him. You notice the bandaged female and two others, one sitting on the ground in one photo. The rear seatbacks are up because that area was occupied. The interesting thing

Re: [MBZ] Porsche autobahn crash

2006-05-06 Thread RELNGSON
<> First, it's her, not him. You notice the bandaged female and two others, one sitting on the ground in one photo. The rear seatbacks are up because that area was occupied. The interesting thing is that only the car ends are literally shredded but the cabin is almost unbent, except fot the co

Re: [MBZ] Porsche 916

2006-03-07 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 6, 2006, at 7:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a 914-6 which was a production car. RLE I put a Chalon kit on my orange 1970 914-6 and transplanted a 3.0 from a 911SC into it. At first I was nervous about cutting the car and installing the body kit but I had a body man friend

Re: [MBZ] Porsche 916

2006-03-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Hmmm. Coulda sworn the six cylinder production version was badged 916 as well, but that's been a long time ago. Certainly, the 914 with a six cylinder was very difficult to tell from the four cylinder. Peter

[MBZ] Porsche 916

2006-03-07 Thread RELNGSON
<> Obviously a clone, since the only one (of the 12 built) to come to the US first went to Brumos Porsche in Florida and is now owned by Automobile Atlanta. Looks like a 914 to the uninitiated but aside from the body shell is a different car. Powered by a mechanical injection 911S engine. Wel

Re: [MBZ] Porsche Carrera GT clutch change

2006-02-27 Thread mykd1
ginal Message- From: John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:07:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche Carrera GT clutch change On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A last observation. The policy of

Re: [MBZ] Porsche Carrera GT clutch change

2006-02-27 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:07:41 -0500 John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you think it's abnormal for someone to drool while looking at car > parts? Thems mighty pretty car parts! And CLEAN, too! All I can say is, "Oh, wow!" > I bet the driver will try to be a little easier on the new

Re: [MBZ] Porsche Carrera GT clutch change

2006-02-27 Thread John Berryman
On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A last observation. The policy of Porsche is that the dealership technician is designated to replace body parts. So, there is no body shop work expected until you get into the tub sub frame. That will get the car a trip back to the hom

Re: [MBZ] Porsche Carrera GT clutch change

2006-02-27 Thread Tom Hargrave
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Porsche Carrera GT clutch change You may find this interesting. It isn't often someone gets a chance to see underneath the skin of the Carrera GT. This Carrera GT is a daily driver (really) of the owner. He previously wore the clutch out on a twin turbo th

[MBZ] Porsche Carrera GT clutch change

2006-02-27 Thread RELNGSON
You may find this interesting. It isn't often someone gets a chance to see underneath the skin of the Carrera GT. This Carrera GT is a daily driver (really) of the owner. He previously wore the clutch out on a twin turbo that he owned. He was a bit taken aback at the price of a new clutch for i

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-17 Thread Harry  M.
Speaking of Isuzu, they just so happen to make one heck of a tough diesel Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 9/14/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Steve MacSween wrote: >> > So he then got rid of it, went out and bought one of those ghastly >> little >> > 3-cylinder Suzuki

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-17 Thread Harry  M.
Some of the later 80's cars like the Plymouths used a Mitsu build 2.6 Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 9/14/05, Mike Canfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> As far as I remember they Omni/Horizon only used the 1.6VW and 2.2Chrysler. >> OH and my favorite...The GLH Turbo with >> 2.2 Ch

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-17 Thread Mike Canfield
And the other was an AMC Spirit rather than Eagle. Mike - Original Message - From: Ed Booher To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche On 9/17/05, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-17 Thread Ed Booher
On 9/17/05, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/14/05, JabbaHursty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > i thought the spirit was a competent and underrated car > > > > Eagle Spirit or Plymouth Spirit? The Plymouth/Dodge K twins were awesome > with the Mitsu 3.0 6 Oops, the D

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-17 Thread Ed Booher
On 9/14/05, JabbaHursty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i thought the spirit was a competent and underrated car > > Eagle Spirit or Plymouth Spirit? The Plymouth/Dodge K twins were awesome with the Mitsu 3.0 6 -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-17 Thread Ed Booher
On 9/14/05, Mike Canfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As far as I remember they Omni/Horizon only used the 1.6VW and 2.2Chrysler. > OH and my favorite...The GLH Turbo with > 2.2 Chrysler Turbo engine. Mike > With all the talk of the Chrysler 2.2 engines does anyone remember the 2.2Hemi? -

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-17 Thread Ed Booher
On 9/14/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Steve MacSween wrote: > > So he then got rid of it, went out and bought one of those ghastly > little > > 3-cylinder Suzukis badged as a Pontiac, > > > Firefly? > I saw one of those in Sault St Marie about ten years ago, and thought > "why

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-15 Thread David Brodbeck
Mitch Haley wrote: > The Dodge Rampage and Plymouth Scamp (both names used on other vehicles > at other times) were the pickups. Kind of like a VW Rabbit pickup but > pretty. The Dodge Rampage always reminds me strongly of the Subaru Brat.

Re: [MBZ] Porsche NOW HONDA

2005-09-14 Thread George Gregory
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Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mike Canfield
Kevin, I'll bet it was VERY fast...IIRC the Shelby Chargers were discontinued because they were TOO fast. Mike - Original Message - From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, Septemb

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Kevin
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:52:17AM -0400, Mike Canfield wrote: > I had a similar idea.A Shelby Chargerized Rampage would be a > blastMike Seen one. There wasn't much that could keep up with it. Surprised a LOT at stoplights. K

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Roberto
This is a old practice, since VW could not produce convertivles at it own plant at the begining all the VW cabriolet produced where made by a carrocerie company named Karmann in Germany (that is why all of them have a small plate with a karmann logo in one side of the vehicle), they also desing

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It mentioned that the first > Chinese made cars are being imported into Europe. I saw a pic of one valued at $4900 in my local paper today. Now you're talking my kind of price.

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Steve MacSween
> someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Just read an article in the Economist about the auto industry and it claimed > that the Porsche Boxter is not manufactured by Porsche but contracted out to > engineering firms because of its limited production. It also went on to say > that th

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread dieselbenz24
Just read an article in the Economist about the auto industry and it claimed that the Porsche Boxter is not manufactured by Porsche but contracted out to engineering firms because of its limited production. It also went on to say that this is likely to be more and more common with auto manufac

Re: [MBZ] Porsche and VW group

2005-09-14 Thread redghost
I think this is what you want Don http://makeashorterlink.com/?D6A211CCB On Tuesday, September 13, 2005, at 03:28 PM, Don & Teresa Merriman wrote: Larger displacement, higher compression, dual port heads, and some had roller bearing cranks, plus a sencro low gear tranny. I still have a Por

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Harry  M.
One of the better GM cars I owned was a Monte Carlo, a 87 Monte SS Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> The coupes (first gen) were called Horizon TC3 and Omni 024 down here. >> When they replaced the rear side glass with steel and modernized it a >> bit,

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mike Canfield
ember 14, 2005 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche Mike Canfield wrote: The Omni had enough room in the back for a 1973 Pontiac 455 engine and TH400 tranny...A bit light on traction but it CAN be done..Mike Installed or just using the car to haul an extra motor? __

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mike Canfield
A CheckerBenz would be the last car you would ever have to buy.Mike - Original Message - From: "Steve MacSween" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Po

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread JabbaHursty
>Mercedes mailing list Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche > someone claiming to be <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ah, you see so few of those on the road now, but i remember when the world was > littered with shiny new d

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mitch Haley
> Mike Canfield wrote: > > The Omni had enough room in the back for a 1973 Pontiac 455 engine and TH400 > tranny...A bit light on traction but it CAN be done..Mike Installed or just using the car to haul an extra motor?

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mike Canfield
Re: [MBZ] PorscheThat is CARRYING the Pontiac engine not running the Omni with it by the wayMike - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche > someone claiming to be [EM

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The coupes (first gen) were called Horizon TC3 and Omni 024 down here. > When they replaced the rear side glass with steel and modernized it a > bit, they were called Dodge Charger and Plymouth Duster. > The Dodge Rampage and Plymouth Scamp (both names used on other v

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Harry  M.
hrysler Turbo engine.  Mike >  - Original Message - >  From: JabbaHursty >  To: Mercedes mailing list >  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:59 AM >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche > > >  ah, you see so few of those on the road now, but i remember when the world >

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mike Canfield
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche > someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ah, you see so few of those on the road now, but i remember when the world was > littered with shiny new dodge omnis > > the car looked largely to be a rabbit knockoff and t

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mike Canfield
I had a similar idea.A Shelby Chargerized Rampage would be a blastMike - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mike Canfield
: [MBZ] Porsche ah, you see so few of those on the road now, but i remember when the world was littered with shiny new dodge omnis the car looked largely to be a rabbit knockoff and the early ones came with a rabbit engine. this engine proved troublesome for chrysler and was replaced with the

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Love to have > a Lupo 1.2L diesel with computer, tranny, clutch pedal etc. Do you guys > have the Lupo up there? Negative but the government is testing the lupo and some Jap mini-cars for compliance now, trying to assess if they should relax some requirements in order t

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread TimothyPilgrim
No Lupo's here yet, although there are a lot of Canadian TDI enthusiasts that would love to see it sold here. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 9/14/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a Lupo 1.2L diesel with computer, tranny, clutch pedal etc. Do you guys > have the Lupo up there?

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Harry  M.
Dodge did make a 2 door version of the Omni called the Omni 024. I think there was a Plymouth version of the car as well Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Steve MacSween wrote: >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > I used to want to get a rustfree Rampage or Plymouth Scamp and put the

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Steve MacSween wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I used to want to get a rustfree Rampage or Plymouth Scamp and put the old > > turbo VW diesel > > in it. Should be relatively straightforward with motor mounts, axles & shift > > linkage from > > an early > > VW engined Omni. > > Were tho

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Steve MacSween wrote: > So he then got rid of it, went out and bought one of those ghastly little > 3-cylinder Suzukis badged as a Pontiac, Firefly? I saw one of those in Sault St Marie about ten years ago, and thought "why can't we get neat little cars like that in the USA?" Just this summer,

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Audi acutally, much bemoaned by postal jeep owners. Theres a kit to replace it with the 232 I6. -Curt Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:26:25 -0700 From: Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I used to want to get a rustfree Rampage or Plymouth Scamp and put the old > turbo VW diesel > in it. Should be relatively straightforward with motor mounts, axles & shift > linkage from > an early > VW engined Omni. Were those the two-door coupes? They used different n

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Steve MacSween
> someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ah, you see so few of those on the road now, but i remember when the world was > littered with shiny new dodge omnis > > the car looked largely to be a rabbit knockoff and the early ones came with a > rabbit engine. In the day they became sor

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: > There was an Omni GLS or GLH-S and Shelby Charger with turbo 2.2 from > 1985-1987. Oops, no such thing as GLS, it was GLH and GLH-S (S for Shelby). In 1988, the turbo was in the Shadow, along with the new Garrett variable nozzle turbo. I forget what they called the turbo Shad

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Steve MacSween wrote: > > The very early Dodge Omnis / Plymouth Horizons used the entire VW engine and > transaxle, > though for some reason this was not promoted. Later they had Mitsu and then > Chrysler > power, right? I am digging far back into the sands of time here, so I may be > like Wile

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread JabbaHursty
14, 2005 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche I thought it was the Dodge Omni; however, it may have been the Gremlin. One of the auto magazines did an article on modifying this engine 10-15 years ago. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Steve MacSween
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes mailing list <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche I thought it was the Dodge Omni; however, it may have been the Gremlin. One of the auto magazines did an article on modifying this engine 10-

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mike Canfield
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche I thought it was the Dodge Omni; however, it may have been the Gremlin. One of the auto magazines did an article on modifying this engine 10-15 years ago. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Potter, Tom E
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Porsche <> You are correct. My previous arguments referred to the vertical fan fours which do resemble VWs externally. BTW, which American car used the Au

[MBZ] Porsche diesels

2005-09-14 Thread RELNGSON
<> You mean the Porsche Diesel tractor, don't you, you rascal? There were about five of them (restored) at the recent Porsche Parade in Hershey PA. As I recall, you had a choice of 1, 2, or 3 cylinders. Without researching it, I think they were made by someone else using the name but a lot of

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Rory
My dad is an Indy general mechanic in Cloverdale, OR. He told me of the AM General postal delivery vehicle which he had worked on. I was amazed to hear that this vehicle was a conglomeration of parts from different manufacturers, the engine being supplied by Porsche, a 2.4l four cyl. -- Rory M

[MBZ] Porsche importers

2005-09-14 Thread RELNGSON
<> I am not sure what this means but, after Porsche of America Corp. went away, Porsche contracted with VW of America to distribute their cars and parts. Except in the Northwest where Riviera Motors of Beaverton OR (later Porsche Cars Northwest) remained as the last independent Porsche distrib

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Zeitgeist
The Omni/Horizons used a VW 1.7L engine. I encountered an AMC logo'd version of the 924 engine in a wrecking yard some 15 years ago and have been puzzled by it ever since. The engine was already pulled, so I couldn't figure out it's source vehicle. You are correct. My previous arguments referred

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Harry  M.
I have to agree that Porsche went through the dumper with the 911 and the 928 as well. Nobody was really ready for a high priced water cooled Porsche with the engine in front and being a V8. Decent sales of the 924, 924 turbo and the 944 helped alot. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ><> > >Except for

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mike Canfield
Dern itTOO LATE, Mike - Original Message - From: "Harry " M.)"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche Opps, just noticed someone else menti

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mike Canfield
YEPRead it earlier in this post too...LOL, Mike - Original Message - From: "Harry " M.)"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche Did

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Harry  M.
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Mercedes mailing list'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:54 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche > > >>I remember the VW engine. I drove a Dodge Omni with a VW engine. So,

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Harry  M.
-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Behalf Of Mike Canfield >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:13 PM >To: Mercedes mailing list >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche > >I too had an Omni with the 1.6 motor...Was a pretty good little car reall

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Tom Hargrave
mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche I too had an Omni with the 1.6 motor...Was a pretty good little car really for what it was. Mike - Original Message - From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes mailing list'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mike Canfield
I too had an Omni with the 1.6 motor...Was a pretty good little car really for what it was. Mike - Original Message - From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes mailing list'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 20

Re: [MBZ] Porsche and VW group

2005-09-14 Thread Roberto
As far as I know the Porche 914 was a VW & Porche project that Porche finaly got as own, but the engine was a VW T4 farly used in the VW buses and a few other cars. In the same subject VW and Porche share the same founder Ferdinad Porche and is not a surprise that thisproduce very simylar produc

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Tom Hargrave
, 2005 8:41 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche > Tom Hargrave wrote: > > So, which American car used the Audi/924 block? Was it the original Chrysler K car? Nope, Mitsubishi 2.6L or Mopar 2.2L in the K. Horizon got VW 1.7, Peugot 1.6L, or Mopar 2.2L, all 1978-19

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mitch Haley
> Tom Hargrave wrote: > > So, which American car used the Audi/924 block? Was it the original Chrysler > K car? Nope, Mitsubishi 2.6L or Mopar 2.2L in the K. Horizon got VW 1.7, Peugot 1.6L, or Mopar 2.2L, all 1978-1981 had VW.

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Mike Canfield
Was that the one used in the 78-9 AMC Spirit GT? Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] Porsche <> You are correct. My previous arguments referred to the vertical fan fours

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread Tom Hargrave
] Subject: [MBZ] Porsche <> You are correct. My previous arguments referred to the vertical fan fours which do resemble VWs externally. BTW, which American car used the Audi/924 block? 924 owners are still trying to live that down. RLE

[MBZ] Porsche vs the rest

2005-09-14 Thread RELNGSON
<> If you go back to 1956 and look at what was being coming out of England and Italy and then look at the 356A which even then could be a daily driver, they seemed so far advanced. Corvette was just getting started but... RLE

[MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread RELNGSON
<> You are correct. My previous arguments referred to the vertical fan fours which do resemble VWs externally. BTW, which American car used the Audi/924 block? 924 owners are still trying to live that down. RLE

[MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-14 Thread RELNGSON
<> Except for the early fifties, Porsche had done pretty well until the early eighties when 911 sales were in the dumper due to prices the public finally balked at. Porsche freely admits that the 944 saved the company and that after that period there have been more watercooled Porsches on the r

Re: [MBZ] Porsche and VW group

2005-09-14 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > <. > > Are not and never were. Where DO you get this stuff? I was pretty sure that VW/Porsche/Audi was a company in the 1970's, much like General Motors or British Leyland.

Re: [MBZ] Porsche and VW group

2005-09-13 Thread Tom Hargrave
these were not 100% VW. The drive lines were VW based. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Porsche and VW

Re: [MBZ] Porsche and VW group

2005-09-13 Thread Zeitgeist
I'm willing to be crucified if needed, but I'm fairly positive that the only VW sourced engines ever to show up in a Porsche product were the 914 and 912E (same flat four T4 engine) and the early version of the Porsche 924, with that oldball amalgam of the Audi 100LS block and weird overhead cam he

Re: [MBZ] Porsche and VW group

2005-09-13 Thread Tom Hargrave
y " M.)" Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche and VW group The 356 did in fact have a VW aircooled 4 in it, but it had a hotter cam and twin carbs. Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Didn't the 356 have a VW

Re: [MBZ] Porsche and VW group

2005-09-13 Thread Mike Canfield
Well I didn't know about the 356 but I was getting it from the latter. Mike - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche and VW group Didn't the 356 have a VW engine in it?

Re: [MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-13 Thread Harry  M.
You are forgetting something there, while Porsche has survived alot and considers themselves very independent. VW on the other hand has taken companies like Bentley which hasn't made a profit in years, turned them around and make money from them. VW was the deep pockets for which helped Porsche

Re: [MBZ] Porsche and VW group

2005-09-13 Thread Don & Teresa Merriman
Larger displacement, higher compression, dual port heads, and some had roller bearing cranks, plus a sencro low gear tranny. I still have a Porsche shop manual for the 356 models, in primo condition, that I paid $30 bucks for in 1957, that was big bucks in those days for a shop manual, that I w

Re: [MBZ] Porsche and VW group

2005-09-13 Thread Harry  M.
Ferry Porsche choose to keep his company separate from the rest. In a general sense they are of the same automotive group, but share parts on a limited basis. Like for example, the Cayenne was designed by VW as the Touareg but with the exception of the engine they have very few interchangable pa

Re: [MBZ] Porsche and VW group

2005-09-13 Thread Harry  M.
The 356 did in fact have a VW aircooled 4 in it, but it had a hotter cam and twin carbs. Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Didn't the 356 have a VW engine in it? And Ferdi Porsche designed both the >911 and the Beetle. Maybe that's where he's getting it from ... > >On 9/13/05, [EMAIL PROT

Re: [MBZ] Porsche and VW group

2005-09-13 Thread Sunil Hari
Didn't the 356 have a VW engine in it? And Ferdi Porsche designed both the 911 and the Beetle. Maybe that's where he's getting it from ... On 9/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <. > > Are not and never were. Where DO you get this stuff? > > RLE > ___

[MBZ] Porsche and VW group

2005-09-13 Thread RELNGSON
<. Are not and never were. Where DO you get this stuff? RLE

[MBZ] Porsche

2005-09-13 Thread RELNGSON
<> Porsche is the most profitable car manufacturer on the planet. Their pre-tax profit last year was higher than Ford, GM, or DC. Which is why I can't afford a new Boxster S. RLE

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