Re: [MBZ] 240D or a toasty AMG

2012-11-08 Thread G Mann
Hey, that will buff right out.. no worries mate. Grant... On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/**MERCEDES-BENZ-C63-AMG-2009-** WRECKING-CAR-FOR-PARTS-/**140791687171?pt=AU_Car_Parts_**Accessorieshash=

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread Curt Raymond
well, its not a gun shop after all... -Curt Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:28:42 -0500 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars Message-ID: 43211d63-7253-4e5c-bc16-42a1eb1b8...@penoff.com Content-Type: text

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread Dieselhead
I've been to the Gold and Silver Pawn shop and I thought their prices were high. They had a Springfield trapdoor .45-70 they wanted $1300, it was pretty nice, maybe 6 out of 10. Dad has a much nicer one he paid $800 for from a gun dealer... When I asked to look at it the guy gave the whole talk

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread WILTON
I'm guessing that a musket does not have rifling, eh? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars I've been to the Gold

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Rick Knoble
On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: BTW, do you have an explanation of the various terminal numbers: 30 85 86 87 87a ? 86 is A1 (Armature 1 or coil+) 85 is A2 (Armature 2 or coil-) 30 is common for the NO or NC (normally open or normally closed) Contacts

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Max Dillon
Kaleb, Another one for the quotes page! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: BTW, do you have an explanation of the various terminal numbers: 30 85 86 87 87a ? 86 is

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread Dieselhead
That is correct. Therefore, it is less accurate. I'm guessing that a musket does not have rifling, eh? ;) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread WILTON
, 2012 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars That is correct. Therefore, it is less accurate. I'm guessing that a musket does not have rifling, eh? ;) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread Tim C
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:28 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Zackly. BTW, could a musket become a rifle if it were rifled. Maybe, only if it's ball/bullet were big enough for the rifling to spin it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifled_musket Those crazy French. Best, Tim

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread WILTON
Yep. 'Zackly what I thought. Thanks for the link; 'didn't know about rifled muskets - just thought it'd be logical. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] 240D or a toasty AMG

2012-11-08 Thread Hendrik Fay
Hmmnh, spose Roger will have advice on products and techniques to use. I was thinking an angle grinder and sand blasting, hang on, no I know a bloke who needs an anchor for his boat. Hendrik who kinda wonders why the thing went up in smoke On 08/11/12 23:56, Rich Thomas wrote: That'll buff

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread Frederick Moir
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars 'Zackly. BTW, could a musket become a rifle if it were rifled.  Maybe, only if it's ball/bullet were big enough for the rifling to spin it? Wilton ___ http

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Prawn Stars

2012-11-08 Thread Hendrik Fay
When was this, according to this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUpiARhpUv8feature=related they only sell their own memorabilia. Perhaps I'll do my own reality show and dig up interesting stuff every week, or have near misses, or dig up fake fibre optic cables. Of course I'll have to hire

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Craig
On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:26:40 -0700 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Could you do me a quick drawing of how to hook up the three relays to do that. Sure. Give me a little time to do it. Here it is. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed...

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread MG
...@pisquared.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:47:51 -0500 MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: I couldn't figure out how to pass the blinker signal through to the trailer and at the same time send the brake signal through to the other light without using

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Rick Knoble
On Nov 8, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Could you do me a quick drawing of how to hook up the three relays to do that. Sure. Give me a little time to do it. Here it is. What program did you use to draw that? Rick Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread MG
Yeah, looks like I got turned around on the 87 and 87a. Sorry about that. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Dieselhead
Rick An un-educated rube with little post HS education who just answered a question from a nuclear physicist. Maybe I'm not so dumb after all. (don't tell my teenaged sons) Sent from my iPhone Nobody knows everything, even about a very narrow area. Ph.D. students biggest hurdle is often

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Peter Frederick
Knowledge is knowledge. The advantage of getting a PhD from a good university (and they are not all good, nor all all PhDs) is that you KNOW that the person with one has proven that they can define an question and answer it well enough to publish something peer reviewed. Other people have

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread MG
...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? Yes Manfred, that would be good. I'm interested in the euro style with the j style hook. I'm not sure about the harness but that should probably come with it? Seems like Oris is a good brand. Let me know what you find. Prob up to $75

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Dieselhead
The numbers are standard euro terminal numbers on the relays. Same as the numbers on the ones in mercedes service manual. 30= + power 85 + 86 are the coil connections. I don't think it matters which is grnd and which is the + signal from the car's lights. 87 is NC 87a is NO The power from

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread WILTON
. e., gravity and tree limbs. Please don't quit your day job to take up tree cutting. Wilton -- Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Craig
On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:08:48 -0600 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: What program did you use to draw that? QCad, a 2-D mechanical drafting program. I was going to use gEDA, which includes a schematic capture program, as I did at work, but I didn't have it installed on my home computer

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread MG
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? Here it is. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Max Dillon
That's awesome, thanks! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:26:40 -0700 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Could you do me a quick drawing of how to hook up the three relays to do that. Sure. Give me a little time to

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Fmiser
Craig wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:08:48 -0600 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: What program did you use to draw that? QCad, a 2-D mechanical drafting program. I wondered if I recognized the type face. QCad is another dandy program - but any CAD program is daunting for

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Dieselhead
the standard relays but have no clue as to where to get this or how much it would cost. Do you have any clue on that. Manfred Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:40:28 -0700 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? Here it is. Craig

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Fmiser
Craig wrote: Here it is. MG wrote: AH. I see. But that or those, I can't tell, is/are not standard automotive relays. I have the standard relays but have no clue as to where to get this or how much it would cost. Do you have any clue on that. Those relays can be any DPDT

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-07 Thread Craig
On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:39:24 -0800 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: BrakeTurnTrailer Lamp 00 0 01 1 10 1 11 0 Standard XOR logic

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
Chip is like BFF with Wayne. Bob R On Nov 7, 2012 11:53 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody else watch the show Chasing Classic Cars on Velocity Channel? The host buys and sells a huge variety of interesting iron, mostly older Ferraris and Porsches but lots of other

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-07 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
These events only go to show that low mileage, clean original W123s are gaining ground. From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars Chip is like BFF with Wayne. Bob R On Nov 7, 2012 11:53 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody else watch the show Chasing Classic Cars

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: This sort of behavior does two things: It causes the general public to have unrealistic expectations of value for something; and, it drives prices up in the market for much the same reason. So you buy from knowledgeable collectors and dealers, then sell to the general

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Or a TTL chip driven by a three-terminal regulator and voltage converters, but relays would be more rugged. There's a reason that 4000-series CMOS is still in use, even 40 years after its introduction. No regulator, no voltage converters. You'd need one 4070 XOR and a Darlington relay driver,

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-07 Thread Fmiser
Mitch Haley wrote: Suddenly there were people on eBay who were convinced a 1960s-1970s Benjamin pump up pellet pistol was worth hundreds. I'd pick them up from airgun dealers, like new in box, for $60-80 and list them on eBay for $0.99, they'd sell for about $150-175 to people who thought

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-07 Thread MG
a quick drawing of how to hook up the three relays to do that. Manfred Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:24:56 -0700 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:13:00 -0500 MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: I am going to build a combiner made

Re: [MBZ] 240D or a toasty AMG

2012-11-07 Thread Hendrik Fay
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-C63-AMG-2009-WRECKING-CAR-FOR-PARTS-/140791687171?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessorieshash=item20c7d6a803 Makes that /8 look cheap, however the engine just needs a clean up Hendrik who will not be submitting a bid On 08/11/12 11:55, Mitch Haley

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Max Dillon
What you need is to look in the EPC and get the factory installation instructions, then you'll have pictures and rough diagrams to give you the design concept. Trust me, three pieces SF steel, a receiver, draw bar with ball, you're done. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] 240D Engine Mounts

2012-11-06 Thread Scott Ritchey
, November 05, 2012 10:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Engine Mounts I jacked the engine back up a tad, lined everything up with a drift pin and it lined up fine. What a huge difference they make. Wicked smooth now. I love how errthing on this 240 is so much easier to get

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread WILTON
Write-up and photos of my hitch installation (123 and 124) are awaiting approval by list mommy. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Craig
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 06:48:08 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: What you need is to look in the EPC and get the factory installation instructions, then you'll have pictures and rough diagrams to give you the design concept. Trust me, three pieces SF steel, a receiver, draw

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread MG
I am in contact with a guy in Orlando who has several for a sedan. I'm going down there to look at some other stuff for me so if you want me to see how good they are and possibly get you one let me know as well as how much you want to spend. Yeah I know free would be good but probably won't

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread MG
Amen brother Ben. Manfred Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 00:02:38 -0600 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? MG wrote: I think Max is talking about the hitch on a wagon and you are talking about one on a sedan. The one that attaches to the floor is in a sedan

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread dseretakis
Yes Manfred, that would be good. I'm interested in the euro style with the j style hook. I'm not sure about the harness but that should probably come with it? Seems like Oris is a good brand. Let me know what you find. Prob up to $75 but less would be better! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6,

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Jon Agne
Even if it doesn't have a wiring harness, they are easy to do. On Nov 6, 2012, at 12:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes Manfred, that would be good. I'm interested in the euro style with the j style hook. I'm not sure about the harness but that should probably come with it? Seems like

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread WILTON
cruise, worked normally on the 123, with or without trailer. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? Even if it doesn't have

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Re. wiring harness: On my 123, I merely spliced into rear lights, signal lights, etc., in trunk for a trailer receptacle mounted by the hitch. 'Planned to do same for 124, but I've needed the trailer so little for several years, that I still haven't done it on 124. BTW,

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Max Dillon
Sorry typo, should be three pieces of steel. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 06:48:08 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: What you need is to look in the EPC and get the factory installation instructions,

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Max Dillon
Perfect picture, but is that euro? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 06:48:08 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: What you need is to look in the EPC and get the factory installation instructions, then you'll

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Max Dillon wrote: Perfect picture, but is that euro? Sure looks like the euro hitch with integrated 50mm ball to me. All the USA market hitches I've seen have balls on threaded shafts that bolt on to a tongue or ball mount. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Craig
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:02:47 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: How do you handle the issue of separate brake and turn lamps on the car vs combined stop/turn lamps on the trailer? I added a separate light on each side for the turn signals on our trailer. Now we have a Big Red Van (BRV

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks for correcting me guys. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Amen brother Ben. Manfred Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 00:02:38 -0600 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? MG wrote: I think Max is talking

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Max Dillon
: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? Message-ID: 1352150240.36241.yext-apple-iph...@web125405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So the American hitch attaches to sheetmetal trunk floor and euro hitch to bumper mounts? If I were to find some euro bumpers would

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread WILTON
, 2012 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? WILTON wrote: Re. wiring harness: On my 123, I merely spliced into rear lights, signal lights, etc., in trunk for a trailer receptacle mounted by the hitch. 'Planned to do same for 124, but I've needed the trailer so little for several

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Michael Canfield
Simple little device called a taillight converter takes care of that. Available anywhere towing accessories are sold. Mike On Nov 6, 2012 1:03 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: Re. wiring harness: On my 123, I merely spliced into rear lights, signal lights, etc., in

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Randy Bennell
Yeah, but doesn't it sound like it would be fun to have an extra light back there like Wilton has? Or, you could get some used tail lights from another MB and install them so that they matched the car. Randy On 06/11/2012 5:47 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Simple little device called a

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread MG
for the shipping. We'll see, I'll let you know. Manfred Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:14:18 -0500 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? Yes Manfred, that would be good. I'm interested in the euro style with the j style hook. I'm not sure about the harness

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread MG
trailer at any time it will kill the electronics in that unit and there goes $20. Manfred Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:02:47 -0500 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? WILTON wrote: Re. wiring harness: On my 123, I merely spliced into rear lights, signal

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread MG
That's what I would like to find or one by Curt (I think). It fastens to the bumper attach points also. Only problem is it is way to expensive so I may be making my own. Manfred Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:14:37 -0500 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread dseretakis
emailing that the items are all off the cars and the rest of vehicle is no longer with us. I'm hoping for about $50, that would leave $25 for the shipping. We'll see, I'll let you know. Manfred Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:14:18 -0500 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Craig
On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:19:09 -0800 Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote: OK, I.m confused. Is there a real Fleabay, or is it just a term for Ebay to make it interesting (like when we write stealership)? The latter. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Craig
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:13:00 -0500 MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: I am going to build a combiner made of 4 relays to combine the brake and blinker lights. This will be wired into the wires from the car lights to the trailer plug. In looking at the problem, I figured out how to do it with

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-06 Thread Jim Cathey
BrakeTurnTrailer Lamp 00 0 01 1 10 1 11 0 Standard XOR logic function. You could consider digital logic ($1 PIC?) driving one relay. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Max Dillon
Ditto Loren and Clay, get a light duty hitch installed, find a cheap light utility trailer. If you're only hauling a few hundred pounds, that car will do just fine. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm starting to realize more and

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Curt Raymond
My 190D has a trailer hitch, its bolted to the trunk floor. If I were going to tow any amount with it I'd reinforce with a big plate in the trunk. I've used the 190D a couple times to shuffle my snowmobile trailer around, its way more handy than the pickup. I've never towed down the road with

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Tim C
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm starting to realize more and more that I need a means to transport larger items. The 240D is not cutting itas it is. Is it realistic to put a tow hitch on such an underpowered vehicle. I'm not talking about

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: My 190D has a trailer hitch, its bolted to the trunk floor. If I were going to tow any amount with it I'd reinforce with a big plate in the trunk. I've used the 190D a couple times to shuffle my snowmobile trailer around, its way more handy than the pickup. I've never

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Dieselhead
Hi Dimitri, As everyone says, your 240 will not have any problem hauling around a light, I say again, light trailer. When I was looking for trailer hitches for my daughter's Volvo 240DL wagon, I came across a couple of european style receiver hitches. They are nice in that when you are not

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Jon Agne
If you want it to look 'right', then get a german hitch. On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Hi Dimitri, As everyone says, your 240 will not have any problem hauling around a light, I say again, light trailer. When I was looking for trailer hitches for my daughter's Volvo

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I want it to look right! Where do I get a German hitch? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: If you want it to look 'right', then get a german hitch. On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Hi Dimitri, As everyone says, your 240 will not

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I'm looking forward to what's behind the barn! Should be back in a few days. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Hi Dimitri, As everyone says, your 240 will not have any problem hauling around a light, I say again, light trailer. When I was

Re: [MBZ] 240D Engine Mounts

2012-11-05 Thread Dieselhead
If you mean the one to the subframe, it is meant to be loose. It is essentially a safety catch. I am replacing the engine mounts on my 240 D. The 1 between the oil pan and the crossmember I am putting it back together and there seems to be a lot of slop between the metal and rubber parts.

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Max Dillon
German hitch won't fit unless your car is euro. I had a euro 123 wagon, small bumpers, and sourced a used euro hitch for it. Euro hitch attaches at bumper points, US-spec cars have different bumper attach points, so euro hitch won't fit unless you also get euro bumpers and convert your car.

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I have a euro hitch for my W124 wagon... its awesome. Rated for 1900 or 2100 kg... I forget which. I'd really like to try towing something that heavy just to see how it behaves, but the most I've done is a few hundred pounds. Jaime On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Dieselhead

Re: [MBZ] 240D Engine Mounts

2012-11-05 Thread Bob Rentfro
Okay so that fits loosely. I understand. Now my issue is getting the holes to line up so I can get the 8 millimeter bolts back in from the bottom. How do I get those pigs to line up? I tried it with the engine down I tried it with the engine up I can't get them to line up. Bob R On Nov 5, 2012

Re: [MBZ] 240D Engine Mounts

2012-11-05 Thread Bob Rentfro
I guess I should probably clarify that I oriented the mounts the same way the old ones came off and they're off by about a quarter of the diameter of a hole On Nov 5, 2012 1:14 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Okay so that fits loosely. I understand. Now my issue is getting the holes

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Max Dillon
Same here, but mine is rated for 1700 kg. I use it to tow my sailboat, which is between 2000 and 2500 pounds. Tows just fine, as long as the boat is way forward so the tongue weight is sufficient. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Michael Canfield
I found hitches for my w123 on the market were cheasy and only mounted to the floor of the trunk. I made my own with two flat plates of steel sandwiched between the bumper mounts and the body with a piece of heavy duty 1.5 channel iron running across to each of them for a support for a 2 inch

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
So the American hitch attaches to sheetmetal trunk floor and euro hitch to bumper mounts? If I were to find some euro bumpers would they just bolt on? If not is the conversion easy? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: German hitch won't

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Is your 124 wagon euro? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I have a euro hitch for my W124 wagon... its awesome. Rated for 1900 or 2100 kg... I forget which. I'd really like to try towing something that heavy just to see how it behaves,

Re: [MBZ] 240D Engine Mounts

2012-11-05 Thread Randy Bennell
Find a tapered punch. Randy On 05/11/2012 3:22 PM, OK Don wrote: Lift the engine enough to take the weight off so you can align the holes with a drift pin, large Phillips screw driver, etc. Once they are aligned, let the engine down to hold it in place, remove pin, insert bolt. On Mon, Nov

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
This interests me. Can you send pics? Maybe I should just weld up my own. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I found hitches for my w123 on the market were cheasy and only mounted to the floor of the trunk. I made my own with two flat

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread clay monroe
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/pts/3373809244.html On Nov 5, 2012, at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: This interests me. Can you send pics? Maybe I should just weld up my own. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I found

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Nope... the bumper setup is the same between US and Europe. On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: Is your 124 wagon euro? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I have a euro hitch for my W124

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Peter Frederick
There was a factory hitch for the W123, surely someone has a copy lying about. I have one on the old W108, but I'm sure it won't fit. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Max Dillon
No idea, but I suspect not easy/cheap. You'd need to do a side-by-side comparison with a euro car to really find out, unless someone else has BTDT. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So the American hitch attaches to sheetmetal trunk

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Peter Frederick
The factory hitch bolts to the support members under the floor of the trunk. Holes are already there, it's a standard frame hitch. A bumper hitch won't work. Any place that makes custom hitches should be able to work one up for you. Peter ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Mitch Haley
clay monroe wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/pts/3373809244.html Looks like the 1 1/4 hitch that Curt Mfg sells for the 210 wagon, but in 2. Curt's sedan hitch is different, bolts to the bottom of the spare tire well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Max Dillon
THAT is a good idea! I would have considered that if I had your talent and tools. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: This interests me. Can you send pics? Maybe I should just weld up my own. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2012, at

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Max Dillon
Looks very similar to both my euro hitches (123 124). Short arms go inside car, parallel to direction of travel, in or near uni-body rails for lack of a better term. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 240D Engine Mounts

2012-11-05 Thread Bob Rentfro
I jacked the engine back up a tad, lined everything up with a drift pin and it lined up fine. What a huge difference they make. Wicked smooth now. I love how errthing on this 240 is so much easier to get to than on the 300D. Bob R On Nov 5, 2012 2:24 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 240D Engine Mounts

2012-11-05 Thread Max Dillon
That is a very satisfying job! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I jacked the engine back up a tad, lined everything up with a drift pin and it lined up fine. What a huge difference they make. Wicked smooth now. I love how errthing on this 240

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread MG
-0800 (PST) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? Message-ID: 1352150240.36241.yext-apple-iph...@web125405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So the American hitch

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread dseretakis
Nov 2012 13:17:20 -0800 (PST) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? Message-ID: 1352150240.36241.yext-apple-iph...@web125405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread dseretakis
On second thought it looks a bit complicated especially since I don't have one to copy! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: THAT is a good idea! I would have considered that if I had your talent and tools. -- Max Dillon

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-05 Thread Fmiser
MG wrote: I think Max is talking about the hitch on a wagon and you are talking about one on a sedan. The one that attaches to the floor is in a sedan and the bumper attach point one is on a station wagon, as far as I have seen anyway. That's because what's the floor in the sedan is a fuel

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-04 Thread Dieselhead
A coleman versatrailer is light and quite handy. For what you are mentioning, it would be ideal. Very versatile. Any reputable trailer hitch place should be able to install a hitch. 1 1/4 receiver is a good size, but they rarely stay removable. My van had one and it took a lot of beating

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-04 Thread clay monroe
You should be able to get a hitch in there. It would likely be mounted under the trunk, straddling the fuel tank and bolted to the sheet metal of the trunk. U-haul shop figures it out. My sister had one added to her 1999 volvo wagon this summer for about $400. Might need all of a 1.5 ball,

Re: [MBZ] 240D drivetrain shake

2012-09-30 Thread clay monroe
flex disk On Sep 28, 2012, at 6:48 AM, John Ingram wrote: My 83 240D 4-speed is now approaching 300K miles. It has developed a drive-train shake or wobble that only happens between 20 and 23 mph while accelerating in second gear. It hasn't gotten worse over the last 2000 miles but

Re: [MBZ] 240D drivetrain shake

2012-09-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Always check the rubber first. Motor mounts, both sides. Transmission mount. Flex disks at ends of drive shaft. Center driveshaft support bearing and mount. Mitch. John Ingram wrote: My 83 240D 4-speed is now approaching 300K miles. It has developed a drive-train shake or wobble that only

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