RE: Highly optimized mod_perl ?

Hi there, On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Saved memory means less swaping, You don't want _any_ swapping on a mod_perl host. 73, Ged.

Re: mod_perl caches compiled quotes?

Hi there, On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Steve Smith wrote: > Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I haven't seen anything discussing this. Then you haven't read the Guide: http://perl.apache.org/guide It's also in several other documents (the Eagle Book for one, and the mod_perl Home page for another). All of

Segfault Apache1.3.12/mod_perl1.24/Solaris2.6

Hi all, Sorry, this is a bit long. I'm working on a bunch of machines running Solaris 2.6 on which I have installed Apache+mod_perl static. The machines are set up for just a couple of virtual hosts at present for testing, eventually they will be load-balanced with mod_perl on separate machine

Re: [DESPERATE] Problems with apache-php3perl SRPM

Hi again, On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Ian C. Sison wrote: > > omigod...! > > It worked! > Ok now, i've commented out the ClearModuleList directive , apache loaded > ok. Would there be any side effects to the directive, as it seemed to be > there for a purpose... Well not side-effects exactl

Re: frontend proxy really useful?

Hi again, On Sun, 21 May 2000, Chris Nokleberg wrote: > On Sun, 21 May 2000, G.W. Haywood wrote: > > > It might take a couple of minutes if the client is on a slow line. > > But the guide seems to be saying that the speed of the client isn't > an issue--the proces

Re: frontend proxy really useful?

Hi there, On Sat, 20 May 2000, Chris Nokleberg wrote: > I was rereading > > http://perl.apache.org/guide/scenario.html#Buffering_Feature > > does it make the light frontend buffering proxy technique useless as > long as your pages fit in the socket buffer size (256K on Solaris)? > (assuming

Re: LARGE PERL footprint

Hi there, On Fri, 19 May 2000, David Larkin wrote: > Can anyone help explain why PERL gives such a large memory > footprint & advise how to get around it. In addition to the other suggestions, you might want to try use integer; in the bits of your Perl code that manipulate integers. > I gues

Re: Virtual servers mixing up "require"d scripts

Hi all, On Sun, 14 May 2000, Uri Bernstein wrote: > Geoffrey Young wrote: >> http://perl.apache.org/guide/control.html#Starting_a_Personal_Server_for_E >> Ged Haywood wrote: >>> You shold use one real server per developer. Make them listen on >>> different ports (>1024). You won't lose much on

Re: speed up/load balancing of session-based sites

Hi there, On Tue, 9 May 2000, Leslie Mikesell wrote: > I'm more concerned about dealing with large numbers of simultaneous > clients (say 20,000 who all hit at 10 AM) and I've run into problems > with both dbm and mysql where at a certain point of write activity > you basically can't keep up. T

Re: apache1.3.12, modperl1.23, perl5.6, ApacheJServ1.1, OpenSSL0.9.4, modssl

Hi there, On Mon, 8 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've expirienced similar problems on Solaris (2.6). After a weeks > worth of hours I feel confidant saying that the instability is from > perl 5.6.0 NOT from mod_perl(1.23) [snip] > IMHO Solaris(2.6)Perl(5.6) just isn't fully cooked yet.

Re: [excitement :)] mod_perl rocks!

Hi Stas, On Mon, 8 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote: > Take a look at the updated graph of the mod_perl growth: > > http://perl.apache.org/netcraft/ > > Pay attention to the ramp! > > BTW, Apache holds 61.53% of the server market share!!! So it's gone down a bit then?? 73, Ged. > http://www.

Re: Memory usage on reload and graceful -- still broken?

Hi all, On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote: > > I have a static Solaris compilation, and have the same problems > > where the parent seems to grow by 1M each HUP. > > that's strange, do you have PerlFreshRestart On or some sections? > otherwise, kill -HUP with a static modperl is a no

Re: Problem Compiling with Perl 5.6.0

Hi there, On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Steve Hay wrote: > Since I had no reply to my previous problem (re-directing STDOUT in > system() calls), This is probably because you're talking about NT. Don't take it personally. > I thought I would try using Perl 5.6.0 instead of > 5.005_03 Brave chap. >

Re: Problem Compiling with Perl 5.6.0

Hi there, On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Steve Hay wrote: > seems a shame I can't get it to go with Perl 5.6.0. I just wondered > if anyone out there new of any more hacks to help... Search the mod_perl List archive for 5.6.0? Most of it will be about it not working with something or other. After all,

Re: [asp] $Response->{FontFace} ?

Hi Joshua, On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Joshua Chamas wrote: > I have a huge site that I want to apply a generic font face to with > Apache::ASP. Has anyone here ever been bothered before that you > can't just wrap the body doc with a default font and have that be > it. No CSS please. But what about

Re: $r->print delay?

Hi there, On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Ed Loehr wrote: > Fairly certain it's waiting there. I cut my debug timestamps out for > ease on your eyes in my earlier post, but here's one output (of many > like it) when I had the print sandwiched... > > Thu Feb 10 14:41:59.053 2000 [v1.3.7.1 2227:1 ed:1] IN

Re: [SITE] possible structure suggestion

Hi all, On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Stas Bekman wrote: > > >text > > - this is much easier obviously, however I've often heard people say > > they thought text-navigation was easier with the navbar at the top > > and bottom of the page. I'd like to have opinions on this, but > > please le

Re: Problems with configuration

Hi there. On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, al wrote: > I'm having the following problems: > i) Occasionally, for not reason at all, I get 'The Document > contained no data, try again later' errors on Netscape, and pressing > reload usually gets rid of this. Also, nothing is logged in the > error logs

Re: Commercial app demo

Hi there, On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Fabrice Scemama wrote: > There's another way. We can't build pre-compiled modules easily, > but even when you code in C or Java, desassemblers can extract > some source from the binaries you deliver. As far as perl scripts are > concerned, a workaround consists in

Re: .makepl_args.mod_perl

Hi there, More topical: Well I think we've done that one. It seems that if not actually an error the documents conspire to confuse. Certainly one for the errata even if it's not really wrong. I have a couple of dozen other notes about the Eagle Book, is there a CVS snapshot of the errata some

Re: Problems during Apache mod_perl and ASP installation

Hi there, On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Diego Gomez wrote: > sh: ./Configure: File or directory not exist Look in the Guide, in the files `install.pod' and `scenario.pod'. I think you will find everything you need is there on the first page or so of each. 73, Ged.

Re: .makepl_args.mod_perl

Hi there, It looks like you have all your questions answered now, but I have one or two. On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Bakki Kudva wrote: > I read the guide and there is no mention of this. Also I noted that > in the guide most paramters are listed in the blue boxes as PERL-* > instead of PERL_*. Stas i

Re: [Rare Modules] Apache::RegistryNG

Hi there, On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Stas Bekman wrote: > C inherits from C, but the > handler() is overriden. Does this have any implications for users of `dirty' scripts? Obviously such scripts will be `legacy' code, of course... 73, Ged.

Re: RareModules

Hi all, On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Stas Bekman wrote: > I suggest to open a series of posts whose goal to make the > introduction of new and old modules [snip] What do you think? Good idea! Let's do Apache::VMonitor - I read in the docs that it needs GTop so I read the GTop docs and that needs... Do

Re: DSO build questions

Hi there, On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Wang, Pin-Chieh wrote: > Ged, > Thanks much for your help, Please tell me if I asked too many > questions, If you don't I'll keep on ask you questions. After I > said that, here is another question. You aren't asking too many questions, but please forgive me if I

Re: RFD: comp.infosystems.www.modperl

Hi all, On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Tim Peoples wrote: > Yet, strangely, *this* thread seems to have threaded nicely (at > least in 'mutt'). Well, sort of. I use pine and the inbox default sort is as received. Which means that I seem to see most of the answers before I see the questions. Entertainin

Re: lookup_uri and access checks

Hi there, On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Paul J. Lucas wrote: > > Are you checking the status of the subrequest? > No. Intentionally. As I wrote, I don't care what Apache says about > the accessibility of the file. I *will* read it. All I want to do > is suppress the "client denied by server request" m

Re: New Bloke question - modifying canned footer (Eagle book)

Hi there, On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Oliver Holmes ITS 1999 wrote: > I've got the canned footer (Eagle book chapter 4) up and running, > and it edits html files on the local host fine using the "\.html$">... directive. I was wondering how to implement the > footer so that it appeared on all html file

Re: lookup_uri and access checks

Hi there, On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Paul J. Lucas wrote: > I have code that contains the line: > $r->lookup_uri( $r->param( 'pm_uri' ) )->filename; >[snip] > However, if I have an access restriction that forbids access to > files ending in a .pm extension and the URI m

Re: make test fails

Hi there, On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Jeff Beard wrote: > running make test fails and produces the errors listed at the end of > this message. I searched the list archives and found a posting that > suggested rebuilding Perl with the same compiler and tools that I > use for apache and mod_perl. So I d

Re: I give up... I'm just going to follow the instructions....

Hi there, On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Richard Ayres wrote: > Rather than trying to manhandle it all into RedHat's directory > structure *I* would rebuild apache & perl etc. either into > /usr/local or their own subdirectory under /opt. That way you get to > keep all the RedHat cruft, and keep it happy

Re: loading mod_perl DSO on a per-virtualhost basis?

Hi Thomas, On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, James G Smith wrote: > Thomas Corte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>So, if I switch to DSOs for (at least) mod_ssl and mod_perl, can I expect >>to decrease top's values above significantly? > > I don't think so. My understanding of DSOs in Apache was to allow > inclu

Re: Apache problem with mod_example

Hi there, Mail to your address keeps coming back with fatal errors, so I'm sending this to the mod_perl List in the hope that we have more luck. 73, Ged. On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote: > The original message was received at Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:59:57 GMT > from ged@localhos

Re: PLEASE HELP - ERROR Linking Apache with mod_perl

Hi there, On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Asghar Nafarieh wrote: > cd mod_perl-1.21 > perl Makefile.PL PREP_HTTPD=1 I took this from the Guide: % cd /usr/src % lwp-download http://www.apache.org/dist/apache_x.x.x.tar.gz % lwp-download http://perl.apache.org/dist/mod_perl-x.xx.tar.gz % tar zvxf ap

Re: Apache::AuthCookie takeover?

Hi there, On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Ken Williams wrote: > should I > > * make a new module with a new name, since some of my changes have changed > the interface, or > * usurp the Apache::AuthCookie module and provide a clear stepwise migration > path? Doug said he'd be willing to mak

Re: problem with example 4-9 eagle book

Hi there, On 21 Jan 2000, Fernando Rowies wrote: > first: trying example 4-9 from eagle book the result is an unvarying > behavior. Running for first time it display the banner randomly, > then, when i reload the page, take another randomly, but the third > or fourth reload, no more pick_randoml

RE: Why does Apache do this braindamaged dlclose/dlopen stuff?

Hi there, On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Stephen Anderson wrote: > > So in the longer term, is there a reason the parent has to contain the > > interpreter at all? Can't it just do a system call when it needs one? > > Well, remember that the interpreter itself will remain shared > throughout, so there'

Re: oracle : The lowdown

Hi there, On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Perrin Harkins wrote: > We're veering WAY off-topic here Maybe. But I for one am happy for the diversion. A lot of mod-perl sites are doing just this kind of thing - after all, mod-perl is just a link in a chain, it's of no use intrinsically without some things

Re: Apache::ASP Debugging

Hi there, On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, suresh gopal wrote: > since the eval of the program puts some of the errors to STDERR - > which goes to log file ( i hope this explaniation is correct). Is > there a way to display these infomation to the browser output?? I don't think I'd want to do that. What's

RE: Why does Apache do this braindamaged dlclose/dlopen stuff?

Hi all, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Gerald Richter wrote: > in the long term, the solution that you have prefered in previous > mail, not to unload modperl at all, maybe the better one As I understand it with Apache/mod_perl: 1. The parent (contains the Perl interpreter) fires up, initialises th

Re: How do I package my DBI subroutines?

Hi there, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Keith Kwiatek wrote: > We have recently installed a new machine with Apache/1.3.9 > mod_perl/1.21 mod_ssl/2.4.10 OpenSSL/0.9.4 perl 5.004_04 configured > A perl transaction handler that works fine on Apache/1.3.6 > mod_perl/1.21 5.00503 is now intermittantly dying

Re: redhat apache and modperl oh my!

Hi there, > I compiled everything from source, no rpms. It went together without a > hitch. Are people having problems with 6.1? [EMAIL PROTECTED] was having problems earlier as well. I didn't see anyone reply to him yet. 73, Ged.

RE: Off Topic Questions

Hi all, On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Stas Bekman wrote: > Please try to keep it clean and not encourage off-topic questions. Sorry, Stas, you're quite right. I often do reply privately to the off-topic questions, and I suppose even that might be construed as encouraging them. I do however also try t

Re: squid performance

Hi there, On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > At ValueClick we can't use the caching for obvious reasons so we're using > a bunch of apache/mod_proxy processes in front of the apache/mod_perl > processes to save memory. > > Even with our average <1KB per request we can keep hundreds

Re: squid performance

Hi there, On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Joshua Chamas wrote: > On Solaris, default seems to be 256K ... As I remember, that's what Linux defalts to. Don't take may word for it, I can't remember exactly where or when I read it - but I think it was in this List some time during the last couple of months!

Re: Program very slow

Hi there, An Englishman asked an Irishman for directions to a place some distance away. The Irishman replied, "T'be sure, if oi was going there, oi wouldn't start from here!". This *is* a bit off-topic, but the guy needs help. Press `D' if you're bored already. On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Kader Ben w

Re: Missed a taint check

Hi there, On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > if you do "<$page" for the file to open for reading instead of $page > by itself, adding a pipe to $page will also no longer work. > The < overrides the intention of any pipes in the filename strings. If it's the *first* character in th

Re: APACHE_ROOT

Hi there, On 14 Jan 2000, William P. McGonigle wrote: > Can someone explain what APACHE_ROOT is meant to be? I'm assuming > it's somehow different thatn APACHE_SRC (which I'm defining). The expression ($APACHE_ROOT = $APACHE_SRC) =~ s,/src/?$,,; sets the scalar $APACHE_ROOT to be equal to th

Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?

Hi there, On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: > unfortunately that's not it... :-( If it's any help, mail me your config files and I'll fire it up on my development server (Slackware Linux 2.0.34/Apache 1.3.9/mod_perl 1.21) to see what happens. Have you got the latest & greatest of al

Re: perl parser for CC/PP information

Hi there, On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, CAMERON, CRAIG wrote: > I'm about to write a parser for CC/PP > (Composite Capability/Preference Profiles) > as a perl module for apache. Basically the information is stored in rdf > whic

Re: modperl success story

Hi there, On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Barb and Tim wrote: > honest evaluations of the downsides of Perl Thanks for the note, and welcome. I'm not sure the mod_perl list is quite the place for this as a topic, so you other list readers might want to hit `D' now. The list is primarily for discussions

Re: oracle : The lowdown

Hi all, On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 01:20:21PM -0800, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > Unfortunately, Oracle support is an ongoing criminal enterprise. > Unless you have the most expensive of all of their support > contracts, and a former Oracle VP on your staff, you will not get > any support period. If

Re: perl -V ??

Hi there, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Dave Reinhardt wrote: > perl -V got me the following, BUT how do I tell if Perl modules: Digest::MD5, >Crypt::DES, Crypt::CBC > are installed? Have a look at the http://perl.apache.org.guide. Amongst other things, `perl.pod' (part of the Guide) mentions the use

Re: VirtualSellers.com TAME patent

Hi there, On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Cliff Rayman wrote: > > These patents scare me since the patent granters seem not to understand > software very well - and it seems like it is diametrically opposed > to what the open software movement stands for. > Then come to the United Kingdom, where you can

RE: Cryptic errors -simple Apache::Registry script ??? (newbie)

Hi there On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Eric Cholet wrote: > > Apache 1.3.9 (with mod_perl 1.21/perl5.005_03) doesn't let me use a > > section in a section. > > Really? That's quite odd. What is the error message? Looks like I was wrong about this. Either my memory was playing tricks on me, or it's d

Re: Trouble installing mod_perl

Hi there, On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, gnielson wrote: > I am encountering some errors when trying to get an existing Apache > server to support mod_perl. > > I am running Server version Apache/1.2.4 and perl, version > 5.004_01. Is the fact that I have not yet ungraded to 5.004_04 > giving me these prob

Re: Cryptic errors -simple Apache::Registry script ??? (newbie)

Hi there, On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, John Walker wrote: > This is in a virtual host section, could that be a problem? Apache 1.3.9 (with mod_perl 1.21/perl5.005_03) doesn't let me use a section in a section. 73 Ged.

Re: strange error message when reloading a script many times

Hi there, On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Alan wrote: > Running a simple test script that does nothing more than print out stock html > and "Test" works fine till I hit reload a few times quickly in succession. Can you mail me your configuration files? 73 Ged.

Re: Caching with $r->no_cache(1)

Hi there, On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Randy Harmon wrote: > Does anybody have experience detecting such a condition, perhaps through one > of the client headers? I haven't had a chance to dump them - many hats. No idea - ditto. > In any case, I could use some Javascript to package up the machine's >

Re: Weird message from make test

Hi there, On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Nancy Lin wrote: > If it's not the test script that's bad, then it would have to be > CGI.pm, no? No. 73 Ged.

Re: Caching with $r->no_cache(1)

Hi there, On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Randy Harmon wrote: > Currently, I'm experiencing the problem with Netscape 4.7, although I seem > to recall the same problem in earlier releases, in the case where the target > browser's clock is slow. > > [snip] can be corrected by explicitly setting an Expires h

Re: Footer.pm - eagle book

Hi there, On 3 Jan 2000, Fernando Rowies wrote: > >From example 4.1 of the eagle book. > I don't understand in which directory I need to put the file Footer.pm and the > html files that where affected by this module. I configured httpd.conf with: > > SetHandler perl-script > PerlHandler Ap

Re: Apache::Scoreboard - problem compiling

Hi there, On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Dmitry Beransky wrote: > I'll try compiling within Apache's source tree tomorrow. When I did that it caused `make test' to fail. I had Apache in /usr/local/apache and mod_perl in /usr/local/apache/mod_perl. Linux 2.0.34 on PentiumII PC, Perl 5.005_03, libc5, sta

Re: Holding files open and locking

Hi Bill, On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Bill Moseley wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good method to archive a log file There's loads of stuff for managing logfiles knocking about. I know you said you'd looked at the Guide, but what was the version you last downloaded? There's a bit in control.pod abou

Re: PerlChildInitHandler called twice for a child?

Hi there, On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:43:43 -0700 Owen Stenseth mentioned: > On my server startup (under httpd -X as well) I see two calls to > it. I have wrapped my code so it does not do the initailization > twice now but this kind of caught me by suprise. Now it's funny you should say that. What

RE: How Embperl sub routine retun value?

Hi there, On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Albert Liu wrote: > It works, but I never thought i can use this way to pass parameter. Indeed > i never read this in "Programming Perl" book. Perhaps it is at some where > it the book Second edition, pages 111 to 121 inclusive. 73 Ged.

Re: Managing session state over multiple servers

Hi there, On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Robert Locke wrote: > If you use Apache::DBI, make sure that you call "connect" with the > same arguments as above in your other scripts or you will find > yourself with more than one connection/process to the database, which > may not be your intention. See the G

Re: Problems building

Hi there, Good to hear from you again. On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Eric Cholet wrote: > I'm strongly opposed to this suggestion. I have always built > mod_perl + apache in one single step (perl Makefile.PL EVERYTHING=1 > DO_HTTPD=1 && make install), I like the fact that I install just the > binary htt

Re: Problems building

Hi all, On 14 Dec 1999, Greg Stark wrote: > I think the interdependence with the apache tree and the mod_perl > tree just makes things too complicated. I'm not unfamiliar with > complicated building software -- even fairly complex software, but > mod_perl just plain won that weekend, I conceded

Re: Error in make test

Greetings, On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Sakuji Toyama wrote: > I have compiled mod_perl-1.21 with apache_1.3.9 under Solaris2.5 machine. > ... > "--prefix=/usr/local/etc/httpd" I think this is your problem. Something similar happened to me. Try putting everything in /usr/local/apache_1.3.9 with a s

Re: where is HTTP_MULTIPLE_CHOICES?

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Dmitry Beransky wrote: > I'm sorry, this is probably a stupid question, but I've search everything I > could think of and still can figure out where HTTP_MULTIPLE_CHOICES > constant is defined. It's definitely not in Apache::Constants::Exports Any > thoughts, did I miss

Re: simple xml parsing within html

Hi all, On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Alex Menendez wrote in the mod_perl list: > I currently have developed a dynamic content engine in mod_perl > I initially tried to do this by subclassing HTML::Parser and over-riding > the usual methods. However, this was painfully slow > > any suggestions on making

Re: System calls to return data via STDOUT

Hi again, On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, hamid khoshnevis wrote: > Thanks, Ged. > > No you are right on. I do glimpseindex off-line and want to search using > glimpse. So I call glimpse and get the result set which I am able to pull > into regular perl with no problem but as soon as I take the working

Re: Apache::ASP Debugging

Hi all, On Tue, 7 Dec 1999, Joshua Chamas wrote: > I'm thinking its best if internal debugging not be turned on by > default, that only user level debugging be what Debug levels 1 & 2 > refer to. Unless there are any protests, Debug will have to be set > to a negative like -1 or -2 to enable in

Re: @INC and make test

Hi all, On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Ruben I Safir wrote: > Syntax error on line 198 of /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf: > Can't locate loadable object for module Apache::Util in @INC (@INC > ls -al /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/Apache > -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 2444 Feb 1 19

Associative arrays don't work (!)

Hi all, On Tue, 7 Dec 1999, Joshua Chamas wrote: > Cedric Avena wrote: > > Do associative arrays work with modperl ? That's a bit like saying do floats work in Fortran, isn't it? > If you want to catch subtle errors in your programming, try putting > "use strict" at the top of your code And us

System calls to return data via STDOUT

Hi all, On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, hamid khoshnevis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am a newbie modperl'er Welcome to the club. > I am tyring to get system calls to return data to modperl (via stdout). The idea of mod_perl is to get things to go faster by avoiding as much as possible the (time consu

Re: Name / brand - decision?

Hi all, On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Victor Zamouline wrote: > I will willingly continue summarizing this thread as soon as I > understand whether we have decided to continue these discussions A running summary of any thread, such as the one provided by Victor is tremendously helpful. There is also gr

Re: Mailing list size

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Anthony Gardner wrote: > Have to be honest and say that compared to other mailing lists I'm on, this > one is the most professional and personal I've seen. Thank you. From all of us, I'm sure. On a technical (if not topical) point it would ease network traffic and the pre

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

Hi all, On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > Just putting in use strict and -w doesn't cut it. There's a load of > gotchas that people just have to understand and learn on top of Perl > skills. Too true. This is a topic in its own right. I believe that mod_perl could be made into an

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

Hi again, all, On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Victor Zamouline wrote: > So, a company hiring VB developers knows that these are humble and > obedient guys who will make the application work, even if an extra > semicolon will ruin the whole program. And that is perfectly OK with > such companies because the

RE: migrating perl.apache.org to *.modperl.org

Hi all, On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Gerald Richter wrote: > I don't see any benefit on having so a set of hostnames/subdomains over > using subdirectories, execpt that subdomains harder to administer (they have > to go into the dns) There may possibly be a benefit if traffic were high. The different do

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

Hi all, On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Robin Berjon wrote: > I can do graphics but I'm no good at drawing. If anyone has the opposite > skills configuration, I'm willing to take care of the (web-)graphic part. I have neither skill in any great measure. But I _can_ probably find some images of hedgehogs

RE: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

Hi there, On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Young, Geoffrey S. wrote: > here's the code from the guide: > > while (my($k,$v) = each %INC) { > delete $INC{$k}; > require $k; > } I don't know what you'd do about that then. Whatever you do, you're bound to break _something_. 73 Ged.

Re: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

On 3 Dec 1999, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > I've always thought the "must load Apache::DBI before DBI" thing was a > bit weird anyway. With you all the way on that one. > Can't you just make it a flag that DBI looks at that Apache::DBI sets? Yeulk. I'd like to see a lot more attention paid to

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote: > I was thinking about hedgehog as one that protected from everything, > exactly like mod_perl... Now why didn't _I_ think of that? 73 Ged.

Re: migrating perl.apache.org to *.modperl.org

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote: > suggested the following layout (I've added a bit): > > www.modperl.org > jobs.modperl.org > dist.modperl.org > docs.modperl.org > search.modperl.org > books.modperl.org > conference.modperl.org (I'll talk about this one next time) > > vs. a basic domain

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robin Berjon wrote: > >That takes a strong logo and... possibly a more artistic name for mod_perl? > The Eagle book doesn't have it on it's cover though, Well, actually, it does... on the first line, but who cares? > so it might be possible if anyone's got some good suggesti

RE: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

Hi there, On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Young, Geoffrey S. wrote: > maybe it has to do with the order in which stuff is held in %INC - that is, > Apache::DBI needs to be loaded before DBI, but PerlFreshRestart may require > them in the improper order because of the hash order? Is there a `hash order'? Ha

Re: LWP vs Netscape

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robert Locke wrote: > To make a long story short, my advice would be to use POST and not > GET. I think that might work. Then you get something in access_log too. 73 Ged.

Re: Can't load /..../Fcntl.so

Hi there, On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Bruce A. Johnson wrote: > I just rebuilt my Apache server (1.3.6) last week. I enabled the > cern_meta module, the usertrack module, and the expires module, > and I upgraded mod_perl from 1.19 to 1.21. I did a clean build > from the distribution tar-balls. Did yo

Re: Happy Birthday mod_perl Guide

Hi there, On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robin Berjon wrote: > the Guide was first announced on 03/12/1998 so it makes a year now ! > Wonder how big it'll be in a year... Stas says we can stop calling it the `mini' guide now... Kind regards, Ged.

Re: Happy Birthday mod_perl Guide

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote: > I wish people use more one liner answers OK. 73 Ged

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

Hi there, On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote: > You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers. I believe it. > Which makes me thinking that we are too few and the demand is growing > (which is good for us :), but from the other side it's bad for mod_perl, Speaking

Re: Modperl script doesn't increment access log

Hi there, On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Jim Goodwin wrote: > Because of the nature of mod perl, we only get one 'hit' in the > Stronghold access logs when the .pl scripts are run. Yup, that's right, unless the script doesn't exist, in which case my acces_log looks like this for example: [30/Nov/1999:1

Re: Limitations of DBI::ProxyServer (was: pool of DB connections?)

Hi there, On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Tim Bunce wrote: > I'd like to see a mode added to DBI::ProxyServer whereby a single > server process serviced multiple clients in a round-robin manner. > Obviously in this mode there's a risk of slow queries cloging up > (blocking) the proxy, but for many applicat

RE: Please Help

Hi there, Thang, On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Thang Nguyen wrote: > Yes I've followed your step, but I still got the same problem as before > my dir structure is > /usr/local/apache linked to /usr/local/apache_1.3.9 and > /usr/local/mod_perl linked to /usr/local/apache_1.3.9 Is this really what you h

Re: Embperl and header output

Hi there, On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Erich L. Markert wrote: > skeleton copy of the code below. > > [- > use Apache; > use Apache::Constants qw(REDIRECT); > > error checking and form validation going on here... > > $new_applicant and $errors are set appropriately here... > -] > > > Untitled Docum

Re: Eagle Book, Camel Book :)

Hi all, On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Ofer Inbar wrote: > "This may seem a bit weird, but that's okay, because it is weird." > -- Larry Wall in perlref(1) man page, Perl 5.001 also Camel Book, 2nd edition, p. 37. Kind regards, Ged Haywood.

Re: How to (not) get help (was: make test fails (modules/src.t) with Error 29)

Hi there, The subject line you gave this was a very good idea, so I've tried to throw in some of my experiences in the hope that this will be a useful document for those who stumble along after me. Take heart, weary traveller! There is light at the end of the tunnel (if you look in the right di

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