If its not too late to weigh in with ideas:
1) A large chunk how to on doing advanced types of XML processing with perl,
I'm really interested in the idea that I can serve my content to PDA's
(which is the up-and-coming killer platform for my market) and in AppML
(Application Markup Langu
Mark Schoonover writes:
> Are there plans to do the University again??
Every year or two I try again to revive it. Your message started me
again this year. No promises, but we're looking into it.
> Thanks Nat for the work you did down here!!
Thanks for your kind words. I love every minute of
Quoting Perrin Harkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> As many of you probably know, the call for participation in this year's
> Open Source Conference has gone out
> (http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2003/create/e_sess). I'm
> thinking about possible talks to submit and I want a little feedback o
|> On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Nathan Torkington wrote:
|>
|> > Mark Schoonover writes:
|> > > Any chance they will bring it back to San Diego?? :)
|> >
|> > Not for two years at least (the duration of the contract with the
|> > Portland hotel). The San Diego hotel was much more expensive and
|> > remote
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Jonathan M. Hollin wrote:
> Matt Sergeant wrote:
> > I've done a lot on bayes for spam (I had an effective bayesian filter before
> > Paul Graham wrote his article on the subject), but there's not much in it
> > for a full talk. Maybe a lightning talk. Hmm...
>
> That would be
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Matt Sergeant wrote:
I've done a lot on bayes for spam (I had an effective bayesian filter before
Paul Graham wrote his article on the subject), but there's not much in it
for a full talk. Maybe a lightning talk. Hmm...
That would be great Matt.
Funny how Paul Graham has become so synonymous wi
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Nathan Torkington wrote:
> Mark Schoonover writes:
> > Any chance they will bring it back to San Diego?? :)
>
> Not for two years at least (the duration of the contract with the
> Portland hotel). The San Diego hotel was much more expensive and
> remote, compared to the Portla
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 09:22:35AM -0700, Rob Nagler wrote:
> So how about a panel discussion. I would gladly represent the MVC
> camp. :-) (see http://www.bivio.biz/hm/why-bOP for my position.)
And I would gladly represent the MVC-is-not-the-final-word camp :-)
A
Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
"Nathan" == Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Nathan> Not for two years at least (the duration of the contract with the
Nathan> Portland hotel). The San Diego hotel was much more expensive and
Nathan> remote, compared to the Portland hotel. I think peop
> "Nathan" == Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Nathan> Not for two years at least (the duration of the contract with the
Nathan> Portland hotel). The San Diego hotel was much more expensive and
Nathan> remote, compared to the Portland hotel. I think people are really
Nathan> goi
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From: "Nigel Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "mod_perl list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: OSCON ideas - more talk ideas
> HI,
>
> I'd really like to see talks on:
>
> 1. Web Serve
Robert Landrum writes:
> One of the other things I disliked about the last OSCON was the missing
> Perl Conference Proceedings.
They didn't appear because we didn't have time at O'Reilly to do it.
They're prepared in Framemaker, to fit with our style guide, and take
a huge and painful amount of ti
Mark Schoonover writes:
> Any chance they will bring it back to San Diego?? :)
Not for two years at least (the duration of the contract with the
Portland hotel). The San Diego hotel was much more expensive and
remote, compared to the Portland hotel. I think people are really
going to enjoy being
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder if telecommuting plus occasional travel for
face-to-face would
sell better than pure telecommuting. Is this done very often
in telecommute
situations?
This is exactly what I hope to propose if the need arises in my situation.
Would love to hear from other
Any chance they will bring it back to San Diego?? :)
.mark
-Original Message-
From: Robert Landrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OSCON ideas - missing proceedings
One of the other things I disliked about the last
One of the other things I disliked about the last OSCON was the missing
Perl Conference Proceedings. I still have very fond memories of reading about
Damians very sick, very twisted, Coy.pm in the 1999 Perl Conference Proceedings.
Did anyone else notice that they weren't made available at the las
> I wonder if telecommuting plus occasional travel for
> face-to-face would
> sell better than pure telecommuting. Is this done very often
> in telecommute
> situations?
This is exactly what I hope to propose if the need arises in my situation.
Would love to hear from others who have had succe
c:mod_perl list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:Re: OSCON ideas
> but where do you get a corporate experienced, clean-cut (75%, at least)
> person willing to put on the tie 5 days a week and do mod_perl?
I suspect that there are actually quite a few people on this list that
would
_love_
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Larry Leszczynski wrote:
> But even if Perrin's OSCON talk (hint hint) gave me some valuable
> ammunition to show that I could just as easily design on top of a
> Perl-based application framework as on J2EE, we still come back around to
> the perception that it's easier to find
> > but where do you get a corporate experienced, clean-cut (75%, at least)
> > person willing to put on the tie 5 days a week and do mod_perl?
Josh:
I was with you right up to the part about wearing a tie :-)
> I suspect that there are actually quite a few people on this list that
> would _l
> I suspect that there are actually quite a few people on this
> list that would
> _love_ to do mod_perl full time.
>
> open up to telecommuting and I suspect you would soon find
> yourself fully
> staffed.
Definitely. Put me in this category. I'm faced with having to relocate at
some po
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Jonathan M. Hollin wrote:
> Perrin Harkins wrote:
>
> >>(http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2003/create/e_sess). I'm
> >>thinking about possible talks to submit and I want a little feedback on
> >>what people are most interested in. Here are two options I'mconsidering:
>
but where do you get a corporate experienced, clean-cut (75%, at least)
person willing to put on the tie 5 days a week and do mod_perl?
I suspect that there are actually quite a few people on this list that would
_love_ to do mod_perl full time. after talking to a few employers over the
past
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Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:54 PM
Cc: mod_perl list
Subject: Re: OSCON ideas
Perrin Harkins wrote:
> Several people have brought up benchmarking in reference to the pet
> store. I don't think it will possible to do a good benchmark of this
> application, partly becau
Hi Perrin -
> If people are more concerned with seeing something that would dispel
> myths about Perl performance, rather than a talk on feature portability
> from J2EE to Perl,
I agree benchmarks would be a valuable marketing tool, but personally I
prefer the feature portability angle - I don'
Perrin Harkins wrote:
Several people have brought up benchmarking in reference to the pet
store. I don't think it will possible to do a good benchmark of this
application, partly because it's so big (it's a reference app that uses
lots of functionality just to demonstrate it) and partly becau
Larry Leszczynski wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Perrin Harkins wrote:
2) The Perl Pet Store
This would be a discussion of porting the J2EE Pet Store reference
application to Perl. It would cover Perl equivalents for various J2EE
features, and talk about what was easier or harder to do in Perl.
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Perrin Harkins wrote:
> 2) The Perl Pet Store
>
> This would be a discussion of porting the J2EE Pet Store reference
> application to Perl. It would cover Perl equivalents for various J2EE
> features, and talk about what was easier or harder to do in Perl.
I think this cou
Andy Wardley writes:
> I like the sound of it, but I should warn you that I have a personal
> crusade against inappropriate use of the phrase "MVC" in relation to
> web development.
So how about a panel discussion. I would gladly represent the MVC
camp. :-) (see http://www.bivio.biz/hm/why-b
Perrin Harkins wrote:
(http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2003/create/e_sess). I'm
thinking about possible talks to submit and I want a little feedback on
what people are most interested in. Here are two options I'mconsidering:
I would be extremely interested in talks covering any work th
Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ask Bjoern Hansen writes:
>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Perrin Harkins wrote:
>> Like Perrin I would like feedback on the idea before putting in my
>> proposal.
>
>I've also been asked if anyone has a wishlist of talks they'd like to
>see at the conference. I
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Nathan Torkington wrote:
> Ask Bjoern Hansen writes:
> > On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Perrin Harkins wrote:
> > Like Perrin I would like feedback on the idea before putting in my
> > proposal.
>
> I've also been asked if anyone has a wishlist of talks they'd like to
> see at the confere
Nigel Hamilton wrote:
HI,
I'd really like to see talks on:
1. Web Server Compression - a comparison, between mod_gzip, DynaGzip
Compress etc, pros / cons, SSL compression, and example configurations
2. Application Server Options - a comparison between pure-perl,
Apache/mod_perl, POE, Spee
Andy Wardley wrote:
Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
I am planning to submit a proposal for a introduction talk on MVC in
a web environment.
[...]
Like Perrin I would like feedback on the idea before putting in my
proposal.
I like the sound of it, but I should warn you that I have a personal
HI,
I'd really like to see talks on:
1. Web Server Compression - a comparison, between mod_gzip, DynaGzip
Compress etc, pros / cons, SSL compression, and example configurations
2. Application Server Options - a comparison between pure-perl,
Apache/mod_perl, POE, SpeedyCGI etc
Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
> I am planning to submit a proposal for a introduction talk on MVC in
> a web environment.
[...]
> Like Perrin I would like feedback on the idea before putting in my
> proposal.
I like the sound of it, but I should warn you that I have a personal
crusade against inappr
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Perrin Harkins wrote:
> (http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2003/create/e_sess). I'm
> thinking about possible talks to submit and I want a little feedback on
> what people are most interested in. Here are two options I'mconsidering:
>
> 1) Database Objects in Perl
I wo
On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 04:14:47PM -0500, Perrin Harkins wrote:
>
> What do you guys think?
>
As an OSCON attendee for the past few years, I've found only a few talks that
really were helpful.
One thing that I would love to see are practical implementations of perl
applications.
For example, w
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Stas Bekman wrote:
> Stas Bekman wrote:
>
> > Since the submission deadline is one week that certainly would not
> > happen.
>
> For some reason I thought the deadline was Jan 15th, I see that it's Feb
> 15th.
Wow, you scared the crap out of me for a second. I want to submit
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 01:14 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote:
1) Database Objects in Perl
2) The Perl Pet Store
What do you guys think?
I say both. :-)
David
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Stas Bekman wrote:
Since the submission deadline is one week that certainly would not
happen.
For some reason I thought the deadline was Jan 15th, I see that it's Feb
15th.
Submit your proposals here:
http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2003/create/e_sess
Nathan Torkington wrote:
(yes, yes, we all want to see the "How mod_perl 2.0 was finished" but
I'm not sure that's on the cards :-)
Since the submission deadline is one week that certainly would not
happen. Though an improved "mod_perl 2.0 by Example" tutorial is
definitely a must for those w
Ask Bjoern Hansen writes:
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Perrin Harkins wrote:
> Like Perrin I would like feedback on the idea before putting in my
> proposal.
I've also been asked if anyone has a wishlist of talks they'd like to
see at the conference. Ideally they'd be "talks I'd pay money to see"
but I
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Perrin Harkins wrote:
I am planning to submit a proposal for a introduction talk on MVC in
a web environment.
It is mostly talking about why (seperation of concerns etc) it's
(sometimes) nicer than whatever you used to do and how you apply the
goals to the actual implementatio
> 1) Database Objects in Perl
>
> This talk would focus on the database mapping options for Perl,
> including modules like Tangram, Class::DBI, SPOPS, etc. It would
> examine the differences in features, ease of use, and performance and
> include a set of hand-coded classes using straight DB
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