[newbie-it] Fw: DivX News: DivX on a Chip, Farscape Trailer, and DivX for Linux

2002-05-04 Thread ku68
Ve la inoltro in quanto potrebbe interessare a qualcuno. Se poi riuscite a installarla e a dire come avete fatto. :-) Ciao ku68 - Original Message - From: DivX News [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 1:21 AM Subject: DivX News: DivX on a Chip,

R: [newbie-it] Continuando con Lime Wire

2002-05-04 Thread Andrea - Tamalandia2
GRAZIE! Ora provo e poi ti faccio sapere! -Messaggio originale- Oggetto: Re: [newbie-it] Continuando con Lime Wire e' un eseguibile, o meglio, in questo caso uno script di shell, che a sua volta lancia un eseguibile, che dovrebbe/potrebbe essere kaffe. ora, guarda in /usr/bin se hai un

[newbie-it] Continuando (ancora) con Lime Wire

2002-05-04 Thread Andrea - Tamalandia
Vuoi sapere la cosa divertente? Non ho nessun file che si chiama JAVA nella mia cartella usr/bin... Ne ho uno che al massimo si chiama java2html ma non credo che sia quello che intendevi tu. E vuoi sapere una cosa ancora più divertente? Sono andato a controllare e nella cartella ust/bin non

[newbie-it] configurazione hardware

2002-05-04 Thread x
salve a tutti, sto passando al pinguino (mandrake 8.2), ma ho 6 problemi, 5 di riconoscimento hardware e uno software che vi elenco in ordine di gravità 1) non riesco a far riconoscre al sistema un modem isdn. su isa plug e pray mi dice stringa (lectron winet express isdn), i chip sono siemens

Re: [newbie-it] kernel ricompilato e vfat

2002-05-04 Thread ENx
Il supporto per il vfat l'hai compilato come modulo o built-in? Se l' hai compilato come modulo, forse, il kernel non trova il modulo giusto! Se non riesci a trovare una soluzione, come ultima spiaggia, prova a ricompilare il kernel mettendo vfat built-in se lo avevi compilato come modulo e

Re: [newbie-it] configurazione hardware

2002-05-04 Thread tom
Alle 14:31, sabato 4 maggio 2002, x ha scritto: 1) non riesco a far riconoscre al sistema un modem isdn. su isa plug e pray mi dice stringa (lectron winet express isdn), i chip sono siemens come quelli del teles 16.3, su winzozz il modem funziona con entrambi i drivers, ma non so come fare a

[newbie-it] usare palm m505 con Linux

2002-05-04 Thread Massimo
Ciao a tutti, qualcuno conosce il modo di connettere un palm m505 alla mandrake 8.2??? I classici programmi (Kpilot ecc) non lo riconoscono :-( grazie tante per la risposta

Re: [newbie-it] Continuando (ancora) con Lime Wire

2002-05-04 Thread LukenShiro
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Andrea - Tamalandia wrote: non ho nessun file di nome kaffe... da root dai un rpm -qa|grep kaffe, se ti da' qualcosa vuol dire che kaffe e' installato, altrimenti no. Non ho nessun file che si chiama JAVA nella mia cartella usr/bin... credo che nelle directory *bin (a

Re: [newbie-it] Continuando (ancora) con Lime Wire

2002-05-04 Thread LukenShiro
On Sat, 4 May 2002, LukenShiro wrote: Tutto dipende da dove hai installato il .bin della JRE Ops, adesso vedo che avevi un .rpm. Per vedere i file che compongono il pacchetto sempre da root basta dare rpm -ql _nome-pacchetto_.

[newbie-it]

2002-05-04 Thread Antonio Magurano
Ciao, come fare comunicare il PALM M505 USB con linux (mdk8.2)? -- Antonio Magurano

Re: [newbie-it] sane

2002-05-04 Thread LukenShiro
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Augusto wrote: Sto tentando di installare la 1.0.7 di sane ,ma quando passo al frontends dopo che ho lanciato configure ottengo un errore che sembra riferito al percorso delle librerie.Ho provato a seguire quanto detto nelle note di installazione dove si fa anche

[newbie-it] Palm M505 USB

2002-05-04 Thread Antonio Magurano
Ciao, come fare comunicare il PALM M505 USB con linux (mdk8.2)? -- Antonio Magurano

Re: [newbie-it] Compilazione

2002-05-04 Thread LukenShiro
On Fri, 3 May 2002, nicola wrote: (Nvidia, Modem,...) ma ogni volta ottengo dei warning nella fase del make a proposito della libreria (?) malloc.h (il sistema mi dice che il suo uso è depreched Il messaggio di warning e' niente piu' di un avvertimento che non pregiudica _mai_ il buon

[newbie-it] Fw: Results of your commands

2002-05-04 Thread Laura ^.*
ciao quando mando la richiesta per togliere l'iscrizione, mi manda, si, la conferma da sympa ma poi ritorna con questo messaggio No command found in message non socosa devo fare?? Grazie Laura - Original Message - From: SYMPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [newbie-it] domandina...

2002-05-04 Thread LukenShiro
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Brunini Alessandro wrote: Dispongo di un DVD IDE ATAPI e di un masterizzatore IDE. [..] Io aggiungo la linea per il DVD (hda=ide-scsi) e i programmi mi vedono il DVD come unità di lettura. Il problema è che non vedo più i DVD. :(( Uhmm, mantieni l'emulazione scsi per

Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?

2002-05-04 Thread FemmeFatale
Derek Byram wrote: a 147 break in snooker always starts with a pot on a single red ;-) -- derek the lurker - essex england - linux user 264346 very true for a 149 break. An extremely rare event I've heard. :) now keep on posting Lurker-wannabe! -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made:

Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?

2002-05-04 Thread Henry B. Wangle Jr.
On Friday 03 May 2002 23:53, you wrote: Normally I lurk but this time I have to Say a Well Said along with a Amen to that . I Bend but I do not break to eventually spring back with much force Unidentified French Underground Fighter. There is a war going on to deemphasize the

Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?

2002-05-04 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 16:13, ed Tharp wrote: what ever happened to the concept of average and reasonable as in; if the average and reasonable person believes they have purchased a CD when they pay their money and leave the store, and does not find out until after having broke the

Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?

2002-05-04 Thread FemmeFatale
daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2002, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Makes me sad, Lyvim. What happened to the land of the free ? We europeans (well, most of us) have great admiration for the United States of America. Mostly because you kicked the oppressors out, wrote a brand new

Re: [newbie] The Register, Microsoft EULA's and all that jazz

2002-05-04 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2002-05-04 at 00:42, Carroll Grigsby wrote: The Register published an update to their earlier article. Read it at: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25152.html MS has backed down somewhat from their earlier position that the software and the hardware are absolutely inseparable.

[newbie] [OT] newbie

2002-05-04 Thread _nasturtium
Hello, I thought you went off newbie to tackle the Mandrake expert list (That's not to say the help isn't appreciated - How to cope with the volume of mail was very useful). Regards, _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to

Re: [newbie] [OT] newbie

2002-05-04 Thread _nasturtium
sorry, please disregard wrong wording, maybe i'll send it back later :-/ On Sat, 4 May 2002 17:50, _nasturtium wrote: Hello, I thought you went off newbie to tackle the Mandrake expert list (That's not to say the help isn't appreciated - How to cope with the volume of mail was

[newbie] Config for new CDRW install (8.1) ?

2002-05-04 Thread db
I installed my new sony cdrw. When I do cdrecord -scanbus I get returned: 0,0,0 0) Sony CD_RW CRX175E1,0j Removable CD_ROM In my lilo.conf one of the lines under the menu scheme says beneath image=/boot/vmlinuz: append= hdc=ide-scsi devfs=mount Prior to installing the drive,

[newbie] OT: Mandrake Store.............WTF?

2002-05-04 Thread David
I just finished browsing the t-shirts and similar items available from the Mandrake Store. There is only one item (1 t-shirt) out of a total of 5 (3 different t-shirts, 1 cap, and 1 CD case) currently available in the U.S. What's up with that? Do we not rate the privilege to order the

[newbie] Finding out keycodes

2002-05-04 Thread Alastair Scott
I have a Logitech keyboard with three keys which don't do anything in Linux ('WWW', 'Mail' and 'Search'). To enable them takes three steps, it would seem: 1. Find out what keycodes each returns; 2. Tell X that the keycodes exist (man xmodmap got me started); 3. Restart X, restart KDE 3, then

[newbie] VCD/SVCD

2002-05-04 Thread Jesper Nyholm Jensen
Hi, I have a VCD and I can play it in my dvdplayer and with mplayer, but I can't copy the mpg-file to my hd, I get an io-error. The strange thing is that I can copy everuthing else on the vcd. How do I copy the mpg-fil as well? -- Jesper Nyholm Jensen Want to buy your Pack or Services from

Re: [newbie] Finding out keycodes

2002-05-04 Thread Moshe Kaminsky
Hi, Try xev. It's a program that prints info about X events to the terminal, including key codes when you press a key. HTH, Moshe * Alastair Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020504 13:04]: I have a Logitech keyboard with three keys which don't do anything in Linux ('WWW', 'Mail' and 'Search'). To

Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?

2002-05-04 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2002-05-04 at 03:52, Henry B. Wangle Jr. wrote: On Friday 03 May 2002 23:53, you wrote: Normally I lurk but this time I have to Say a Well Said along with a Amen to that . I Bend but I do not break to eventually spring back with much force Unidentified French Underground

Re: [newbie] Mozilla default

2002-05-04 Thread shane
On Saturday 04 May 2002 05:33, Lee opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I am rtfm'ed out. I know it's a simple problem and can't spot the answer. How do I make mozilla my default browser? what are you running? i will make the ass-suption you are in

Re: [newbie] Install CDRW on M 8.1 ? Still nothing...

2002-05-04 Thread Jesper Nyholm Jensen
Hi, Still nothing seems to work ok. Here's 'cdrecord -scanbus': scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'COMPAQ ' 'DVD-ROM SD-612B ' 'BL16' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) *

Re: [newbie] Re: WineX was: OT over reacting

2002-05-04 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 14:27, Femme wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2002 08:38:38 -0700 shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 03 May 2002 08:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I play these games regularly Starcraft/Broodwars

Re: [newbie] Mozilla default

2002-05-04 Thread Lee
Thanks Shane Worked fine. Interesting place for it, BTW. Guess I'll always be a newbie. I have been watching the sig war with much laughter. This list is as entertaining as it is informative. Thanks Lee On Saturday 04 May 2002 09:45 am, shane wrote: On Saturday 04 May 2002 05:33, Lee

[newbie] 8.2 - worth upgrading?

2002-05-04 Thread Heather Reed
Hi all And a big Hi to Femme :-)) I have been offline for ages thanks to a surprise change in protocols by my ISP :-(( Back now though :-)) I got 2 of the 3 CDs for mandrake 8.2 on a linux mag this month - is it worth upgrading (from 8.1)? And am i right in assuming that its back to square 1

Re: [newbie] Mozilla default

2002-05-04 Thread shane
On Saturday 04 May 2002 07:59, Lee opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Worked fine. Interesting place for it, BTW. Guess I'll always be a newbie. welcome to the club, i will teach you the eternal newbie secret handshake later I have been watching

Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?

2002-05-04 Thread Todd Slater
On Sat, 4 May 2002 03:46:15 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 03 May 2002 08:17 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Since they now control the Department of Justice via bribe money, payoffs, and soft money (legal bribe money) I would assume then that they have already merged.

[newbie] Hardware query

2002-05-04 Thread Belgarius
Having long been fed up with Macroshaft's software, at least with regards to server needs, I've opted to instead, use a Linux based server. While not fond of M$ by any means, I still have to use it for my daily tasks, and so, will by necessity, need to keep my primary workstation under that

Re: [newbie] The Register, Microsoft EULA's and all that jazz

2002-05-04 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 04 May 2002 09:31 am, you wrote: On Sat, 2002-05-04 at 00:42, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Carroll, Check out the following URL, if the excerpt is interesting to you -- http://www.mlug.ca/paul/stories/column26_html Excerpt from that article --

Re: [newbie] OT over reacting

2002-05-04 Thread Ronald J. Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed Winex, but I just can't figure out how to get it to work, I am fairly new to Linux and still learning. I installed it when I installed the Linux OS on the machine. Normally, you just: mount /mnt/cdrom (or whatever yours is) cd /mnt/cdrom winex name of

Re: [newbie] 8.2 - worth upgrading?

2002-05-04 Thread Alastair Scott
On Saturday 04 May 2002 3:43 pm, Heather Reed wrote: And a big Hi to Femme :-)) I have been offline for ages thanks to a surprise change in protocols by my ISP :-(( Back now though :-)) I got 2 of the 3 CDs for mandrake 8.2 on a linux mag this month - is it worth upgrading (from 8.1)? And am

Re: [newbie] Help I Can't log in!!!

2002-05-04 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Mark Lucas wrote: Thanks for the help. First, I don't use a firewall, I don't think I need it. I *can* login to Webmin etc quite happily remotely. The problem is that I can't log in locally or via SSH. SSH seems to validate OK but then fails to set up a consol session

Re: [newbie] VNC on MDK 8.2 - keyboard problem

2002-05-04 Thread shane
On Thursday 02 May 2002 10:28, RichardA opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Is anyone else using the VNC which came with MDK 8.2? I can start the server, start the viewer on my laptop and everything looks great, except that key presses don't get through

[newbie] Lexmark X73 Multi Function Printer

2002-05-04 Thread Mark Annandale
Hi Guys Has anyone had the pleasure of being able to use one of these printers under Linux. I have it connected to a 'doze box and can see the printer under LinNeighborhood, as well as see the Linux shares under XP. What would be the easiest way to be able to use this printer ? Kind regards

Re: [newbie] Help I Can't log in!!!

2002-05-04 Thread Mark Lucas
Thanks for the help, I'll give this a try. I don't think the problem is actually to do with authentication. The system logs suggest that the authentication is OK. The problem is in trying to set up a console session over SSH or locally. SSH says it connects OK but the server closes the session

Re: [newbie] Help I Can't log in!!!

2002-05-04 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Mark Lucas wrote: Thanks for the help, I'll give this a try. I don't think the problem is actually to do with authentication. The system logs suggest that the authentication is OK. The problem is in trying to set up a console session over SSH or locally. SSH says it

Re: [newbie] VNC on MDC

2002-05-04 Thread RichardA
I thought RFBDrake just did windows terminal server emulation, but launching it again, I'm not so sure. It seems to be too new to have documentation. All I know is that I launch it and nothing happens. No errors, nothing. The VNC java client works fine in Konq, but not Moz. The trouble with

Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?

2002-05-04 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Sat, 4 May 2002, RichardA wrote: What a load of crap. I don't subscribe to this list to see pro gun zealots foaming at the mouth about murdering petty criminals. I dare say some of my political views would upset you. You'll notice I don't subject you to them. RichardA foaming at the

[newbie] xsession-errors - can anyone explain ?

2002-05-04 Thread Kaj Haulrich
After installing 8.2 my KDE seems to load in a very bureacratic pace - to say the least. To investigate this I compared two hiden files in my /home/kaj directory : the .xsession-errors from 8.1 and 8.2 , respectively. Under 8.1 this file only mention something about DCOP-server up and running

Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?

2002-05-04 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Alastair Scott wrote: On Saturday 04 May 2002 11:38 am, RichardA wrote: What a load of crap. I don't subscribe to this list to see pro gun zealots foaming at the mouth about murdering petty criminals. I dare say some of my political views would upset you. You'll

RE: [newbie] OT over reacting

2002-05-04 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Fri, 3 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed Winex, but I just can't figure out how to get it to work, I am fairly new to Linux and still learning. I installed it when I installed the Linux OS on the machine. I read the man page for wine and it didn't make much sense to

Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?

2002-05-04 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On 4 May 2002, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 18:46, David wrote: Well, this has worked sometimes (for a friend, of course--I would never do something like this)... When making your copies of some microshit, instead of just copying disk-to-disk, copy all files to

Re: [newbie] Hardware query

2002-05-04 Thread Brian Parish
I have built a number of these. Always used older H/W as raw CPU speed is a bit wasted on this application. At the moment my server is a Pentium 1 200. I put a PCI IDE controller and a PCI USB card into it so it can handle large drives and USB printers. (The USB support on old mobos can be

Re: [newbie] XMMS - Fast Play - SOS - (funny must read)

2002-05-04 Thread Warren Post
Softhome.net -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras http://www.srcopan.vze.com/ On Wed, 1 May 2002 23:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Brian York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a free email that gives free pop/smtp? I hate web interfaces, g. Want to buy your Pack or Services

Re: [newbie] Linux and Windows

2002-05-04 Thread Warren Post
Yes. Not only is dual booting (having two operating systems on one computer) possible, it's common. It's a great way to see if you like Linux without making a commitment. My computers have both Windows and Mandrake 8.1, although I like Mandrake so much more that I'll be removing Windows soon.

Re: [newbie] aba_sofiane

2002-05-04 Thread Warren Post
I too have an onboard SiS 620 and a monitor that doesn't appear on the list. After much trial and error, I have found that the following settings work for me: * XFree 3.3.6 (4.0.3 doesn't work for me) without 3D acceleration. * Generic monitor that can do 1280 x 1024 @ 60 Hz (which is the

Re: [newbie] Linux and Windows

2002-05-04 Thread Brian Parish
Ivo, One more thing - Linux has a nice utility called diskdrake, which makes it easy to shrink your existing windows partition to make room for linux. It runs during the install process. Assuming that you are using W98, before you try to install, defrag the disk ensuring that the option to

Re: [newbie] 8.2 - worth upgrading?

2002-05-04 Thread FemmeFatale
Heather Reed wrote: Hi all And a big Hi to Femme :-)) I have been offline for ages thanks to a surprise change in protocols by my ISP :-(( Back now though :-)) I got 2 of the 3 CDs for mandrake 8.2 on a linux mag this month - is it worth upgrading (from 8.1)? And am i right in assuming

Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?

2002-05-04 Thread Derek Byram
On Saturday 04 May 2002 07:39, you wrote: Derek Byram wrote: a 147 break in snooker always starts with a pot on a single red ;-) -- derek the lurker - essex england - linux user 264346 very true for a 149 break. An extremely rare event I've heard. :) now keep on posting

Re: [newbie] Hardware query

2002-05-04 Thread FemmeFatale
Belgarius wrote: Having long been fed up with Macroshaft's software, at least with regards to server needs, I've opted to instead, use a Linux based server. While not fond of M$ by any means, I still have to use it for my daily tasks, and so, will by necessity, need to keep my primary

[newbie] making a script runnable

2002-05-04 Thread Brian Koppe
Hi, I have a .sh script that I ned to run to install a theme, but it doesn't run when I type ./ before it Last time this happened I had to type some command to make it so ./ worked. Any suggestion? Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to

Re: [newbie] making a script runnable

2002-05-04 Thread Brian Parish
chmod +x filename or chmod 777 filename Brian On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 11:08, Brian Koppe wrote: Hi, I have a .sh script that I ned to run to install a theme, but it doesn't run when I type ./ before it Last time this happened I had to type some command to make it so ./ worked. Any

Re: [newbie] making a script runnable

2002-05-04 Thread Tagbo Ekwueme-Okoli
type at the prompt chmod +x script_name On Sat, 2002-05-04 at 21:08, Brian Koppe wrote: Hi, I have a .sh script that I ned to run to install a theme, but it doesn't run when I type ./ before it Last time this happened I had to type some command to make it so ./ worked. Any suggestion?

Re: [newbie] making a script runnable

2002-05-04 Thread Brian Koppe
Thank you. Now that I've been able to get it to run, I get the error kinstalltheme: command not found I'm running Mandrake 8.2 and KDE 3. Anyone know what to do here? Sorry for being such a newb :-P Brian Brian Parish wrote: chmod +x filename or chmod 777 filename Brian On Sun,

[newbie] CDR

2002-05-04 Thread Randy Donohoe
Anybody got their IDE CDR to burn in 8.2? If so, how? Thanks, Randy Donohoe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Install CDRW on M 8.1 ? Still nothing...

2002-05-04 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 04 May 2002 09:22 am, you wrote: Hi, Still nothing seems to work ok. Here's 'cdrecord -scanbus': scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'COMPAQ ' 'DVD-ROM SD-612B ' 'BL16' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) *

[newbie] Re: Crashes - SOLVED

2002-05-04 Thread Warren Post
My box no longer crashes, now that I have set the BIOS to use nonagressive settings. I'm now slowly changing the settings back the way they were one by one to isolate what it was, but I suspect that it's one of the memory settings. Many thanks to Derek and Brian for mentioning memory as a

Re: [newbie] CDR

2002-05-04 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Sunday 05 May 2002 02:48 am, Randy Donohoe wrote: Anybody got their IDE CDR to burn in 8.2? If so, how? Thanks, Randy Donohoe Well Randy, of course CD-burning is essential to all of us who regularly install new versions of linux. Personally I backup all my important files to CD on a

Re: [newbie] KDE3 and Konqueror

2002-05-04 Thread Dennis Myers
On Wednesday 01 May 2002 10:26 pm, you wrote: Hi all, I decided to give KDE3 another try with the latest .mdk build on the mirrors. Now I have lost my ability to call up konqueror from a su console. It just sits there and says something about render. Happens in kde and kde3. Anyone seen

Re: [newbie] making a script runnable

2002-05-04 Thread Todd Slater
On Sat, 04 May 2002 20:27:53 -0500 Brian Koppe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you. Now that I've been able to get it to run, I get the error kinstalltheme: command not found I'm running Mandrake 8.2 and KDE 3. Anyone know what to do here? Sorry for being such a newb :-P Brian That

Re: [newbie] Hardware query

2002-05-04 Thread Belgarius
Well if you wanta url for what hardware is stress tested with Mandrake I can post one... Thats not a problem. -- Femme I appreciate the input, but what I was looking for was more a way to get the system to not whine about not having the hardware present. Brian Parish was good enough to