Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express, OpenOffice.org, VirtualBox

2010-11-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> "W. Wayne Liauh" wrote: > > > # For LibreOffice I don't see any builds for > Solaris. So, when we #wouldn't care about "our" > platform, what is then the foundation #doing? ;-) > > > > > > I think your philosophy is fundamen

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express, OpenOffice.org, VirtualBox

2010-11-22 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
# For LibreOffice I don't see any builds for Solaris. So, when we #wouldn't care about "our" platform, what is then the foundation #doing? ;-) I think your philosophy is fundamentally flawed. No one is expecting the TDF to port LibreOffice to Solaris. If Oracle is not stubborn/stupid enough a

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris-based distributions as on Nov 2010

2010-11-20 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> OpenSolaris-based distributions based on older > releases of the OpenSolaris kernel. > > Distros: > > belenix > eon > jeos > korona > martux > milax > nexenta > openindiana > schillix > stormos > > Note: Solaris 11 Express (b151a) has the latest > kernel build base

Re: [osol-discuss] something about solaris 11 express license(OTN)

2010-11-20 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > I think it's a lot worse. It's not just > > non-production use, it's only licensed for > software > > development, and only for use by a single person. > I > > can't think of many places where you could > actually > > use it. All of my software developers need to > allow > > someone else onto t

Re: [osol-discuss] something about solaris 11 express license(OTN)

2010-11-19 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > production form),like, my desktop and laptop.this > > means i can only use solaris 11 express only on > one > > of them. is their a lawyer around here;-) > > Wouldn't downloading S11e as many times as you have > machines solve this? Exactly. Anyone who has downloaded the S11e images should

Re: [osol-discuss] something about solaris 11 express license(OTN)

2010-11-19 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Hi, > > I was going through the OTN license and I noticed > something that got me thinking > that solaris 11 express can only be used on one > computer. what if i have was running > opensolaris on two or more computers at home (non > production form),like, my desktop and laptop.this > means i

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express, OpenOffice.org, VirtualBox

2010-11-18 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 18:33, W. Wayne Liauh > wrote: > > The following comment was cc'd from the GullFoss > Forum, in case my posting was rejected: > > > > " > > > > I am unable to install OOo 3.3RC5 in the > just-released Oracle Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express, OpenOffice.org, VirtualBox

2010-11-18 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> please disregard this method, openoffice did install > but also broke my solaris 11 install, this method > worked on previous opensolaris release but no > longer. > > Regards > Edward You are right, trying to install OpenOffice.org the hard way (i.e., directly using pkgadd) will hose your

[osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express, OpenOffice.org, VirtualBox

2010-11-18 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
The following comment was cc'd from the GullFoss Forum, in case my posting was rejected: " I am unable to install OOo 3.3RC5 in the just-released Oracle Solaris 11 Express. I have no problem installing it in Ubuntu. And I was able to install one of the previous RC's in Solaris 10u9 (with som

[osol-discuss] iBUS in Solaris 11 Express?

2010-10-22 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Does anyone know whether iBUS will be available for Solaris 11 Express? If so, is it possible to test it in Solaris 10u9? Thanks. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] : - (

2010-09-30 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > On 30 Sep 2010, at 02:44, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > > > > I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the > update 9 of Solaris 10 has finally switched to > OpenOffice.org. Thus, it seems that Oracle also > silently RIP'd StarOffice (actually the dec

Re: [osol-discuss] : - (

2010-09-29 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > Not to mention more detail on a much earlier > > departure: > > > > > http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Java- > > > Creator-James-Gosling-Why-I-Quit-Oracle-813517/ > > > > Keeping in mind that one tends to only hear one > side > > at a time, nevertheless, > > it doesn't sound

[osol-discuss] : - (

2010-09-28 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
http://blogs.sun.com/bonwick/entry/and_now_page_2 -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] New In Solaris 10 9/10 (Update 9)

2010-09-22 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > what's new in the latest release of Oracle Solaris > > 10! > > http://blogs.sun.com/OTNGarage/date/20100908 > > > > Oracle upgrades Solaris with Sun Solaris 10 9/10 > > > http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/eye-on-oracl > > > e/oracle-upgrades-solaris-with-sun-solaris-10-910/ > > Downlo

Re: [osol-discuss] New In Solaris 10 9/10 (Update 9)

2010-09-22 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> what's new in the latest release of Oracle Solaris > 10! > http://blogs.sun.com/OTNGarage/date/20100908 > > Oracle upgrades Solaris with Sun Solaris 10 9/10 > http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/eye-on-oracl > e/oracle-upgrades-solaris-with-sun-solaris-10-910/ > Download link: > http://www

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: > > "Dmitry G. Kozhinov" wrote: > > > >>> So perhaps Illumos/OpenIndiana will become the > OurDelta or MariaDB equivalent of Oracle Solaris and > outshine its predecessor. :) > >> I am very doubtful about this. Oracle states > (http://www.oracle.com/us

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-17 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> while mentioning copyrights, i'm wondering if Oracle > may also think it can sue illumos, like, it's suing > google? > Please think--and read--before you wrote. Google got sued because it didn't follow the terms of the GPL (and failed to secure an alternative license from Sun). The IllumOS

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-17 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > > Wikipedia says java is GPL. If you google around, > you'll find that some > > version of java was released under GPL in 2006. > However, if you look around > ... it is not readily available today, at least, not > in all the places you > would be most likely to loo

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-16 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Not only is this statement incorrect (lawsuit is not > about GPL) .. While the term GPL appears nowhere in the complaint, believe me (of course you don't have to), this is EXACTLY what the lawsuit is about. And I also believe that this is one of the main reasons that David Boies is taking thi

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-16 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > But it does make it very difficult for FLOSS because > every times you > develop something, it is most likely someone else has > already filed the > patents, and you are at risks from being sued. > > -Ghee Google is trying to hide under the FOSS umbrella. This is very deceiving. Sun is

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-15 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Oracle sues Google over Java! > > Un-believable! Now it is proven what Oracle's > intentions are! Is Java free??? What is the future of > Java now??? So much for pro-open source attitude! It > doesn't exist -maybe it never did after Oracle > acquired Sun. Will anyone trust Oracle any more? > >

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-14 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I don't think anyone will like me for saying this, but for those handful of us "outside of Sun" who have been following OpenSolaris since day one, do we really expect a different outcome? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-disc

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-13 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Has anyone else taken note of the domain name of the > law firm representing Oracle in the suit against > Google? Has anyone ever heard the name "David Boies"? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensola

Re: [osol-discuss] The Illumos Project

2010-08-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Garrett D'Amore, the "Benevolent Dictator for now" of the IllumOS project, has posted a slide show in pdf format: http://www.illumos.org/attachments/download/3/illumos.pdf At the present time, the only thing I cared is that these great slides are made using Oracle's OpenOffice.org 3.2 (pls see

Re: [osol-discuss] New onnv distro naming suggestion

2010-08-03 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > Dave Koelmeyer wrote: > > > SolarOS > > > > > > Rolls right off the tongue ;) > > > > And anything that looks close enough to the name > of > > an existing > > trademark that it could be a typo for it, is > likely > > to get you > > unpleasant mail from trademark lawyers. > Trademark > law

Re: [osol-discuss] New onnv distro naming suggestion

2010-08-03 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Dave Koelmeyer wrote: > > SolarOS > > > > Rolls right off the tongue ;) > > And anything that looks close enough to the name of > an existing > trademark that it could be a typo for it, is likely > to get you > unpleasant mail from trademark lawyers. Trademark > law protects > against confusi

Re: [osol-discuss] no more news articles from me

2010-08-01 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> I don't know if you're aware the marketing thread > has been retired, if that's the case, then maybe you can try to find an appropriate user group, become at least an honorary member, and post your news items there. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] no more news articles from me

2010-08-01 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> I'll explain on what i was doing. I thought by > posting news artlcles about the changes > racle is doing to solaris and opensolaris, i was > helping fellow opensolaris users, so they can > review it and see if they have to make any changes > in their business, since oracle does not really >

Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-20 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > The installation takes no more than a couple of > minutes. The boot time I measured was about 25 > seconds, as opposed to the 14 seconds advertised by > Alex ( :-) ). > This is VBox time, usually on SSD drive it's 14-16 > seconds.. > > > Again, I am sure everyone is aware that this is > on

Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-18 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> >Wayne said: > >Now that you mentioned this great idea of putting > together a minimalist >distro, has anyone ever > thought about Milax? I have only taken a short cut > and >tried to install it in VirtualBox, but have not > succeeded. Has anyone >successfully installed and run > Firefox 3.6.6 an

Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-17 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > In a world where Solaris 10/Next is only available as a 90 day trial . . . This is completely UNTRUE, and I really hope that we at least don't repeat the FUD here. The 90-day trial language already existed in Sun's license. The reason that Oracle specifically spells it out was probably in

Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-17 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> On 17 Jul 2010, at 18:07, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > > One of the biggest problems with all of our > community distros is that they are not compatible > with IPS. This problem is further complicated by the > fact that Sun's own OpenSolaris distro does not allow > multip

Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-17 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> You already have 'community distros' and forums like > Nexenta, Korona (KDE4Solaris), and Belenix as the > OpenSolaris-based communities currently providing > recent updates to either the desktop environment or > backporting kernel patches. > > > ~ Ken Mays One of the biggest problems with al

Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-16 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> The best of all worlds, IMHO, would be for us (the > community) to build > and maintain a website of our own that hosted a > minimalist distro of > our own, with IPS repos of our own, using only the > master mercurial > (and/or whatever) source repos mirrored from within > Oracle. > Explicitly NO

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle does not sell laptops

2010-07-07 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> There is no direct, visible commercial benefit for > oracle to try to > displace ubuntu in the desktop market. There is > however a drawback > for Oracle's commercial success in case that Solaris > is no longer viable > on the desktop. > > > Jörg > Heartily agreed! But I am also looking at t

Re: [osol-discuss] So who is ready to be let down?

2010-07-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> "W. Wayne Liauh" wrote: > > > > BTW: The problem with the US law system is that > you > > > cannot cancel a patent > > > separately. This needs to be done during the main > > > hearing of the trial. > > > > > >

Re: [osol-discuss] So who is ready to be let down?

2010-07-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> BTW: The problem with the US law system is that you > cannot cancel a patent > separately. This needs to be done during the main > hearing of the trial. > > Jörg > Actually in the US, you can file a re-examination request with the Patent Office to invalidate an issued patent. NetApp's COW

Re: [osol-discuss] So who is ready to be let down?

2010-07-03 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > Thanks. Oracle also provides a VirtualBox Solaris > 10 > > 10/09 Appliance Image in Open Virtual Format > (OVF): > > > > > https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS- > > > > CDS_SMI-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?Produ > > > ctref=virtualbox-s10u8-x86-...@cds-cds_smi >

Re: [osol-discuss] So who is ready to be let down?

2010-07-02 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Based on what Paul said > > I don't think 'us' as the community that use Solaris > or OpenSolaris-based distros > should feel shafted if Oracle is focused on releasing > Solaris 11. I'd hope we'd want this > as the end goal as most of the OpenSolaris-based core > snapshots were not considere

Re: [osol-discuss] So who is ready to be let down?

2010-07-01 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Thanks. Oracle also provides a VirtualBox Solaris 10 > 10/09 Appliance Image in Open Virtual Format (OVF): > > https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS- > CDS_SMI-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?Produ > ctref=virtualbox-s10u8-x86-...@cds-cds_smi > > This is a standard defa

Re: [osol-discuss] So who is ready to be let down?

2010-06-28 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:40 PM, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > > That said, many of my friends are amazed to learn > that they can so effortlessly run such a highly > revered OS (the Solaris proper, not OpenSolaris--most > of them really don't care about the latter and I

Re: [osol-discuss] So who is ready to be let down?

2010-06-28 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org > [mailto:opensolaris- > > discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of > Edward Ned Harvey > > > > You suck, quit whining unless you're being > productive somehow. > > I apologize for using this language. > > This is a discussion list, wher

Re: [osol-discuss] So who is ready to be let down?

2010-06-28 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> On my Mac (under VirtualBox, since it's > tedious to set up a > Mac to triple-boot, and I already have to have XP on > there for a few > gadgets that only can be updated from XP, plus the > service manual on > CD for one of my cars, that can only be viewed with > IE), OpenSolaris > seems about

Re: [osol-discuss] Milax 0.5 boot fails : login services can not start

2010-06-28 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 10:36 -0700, W. Wayne Liauh > wrote: > > Hi Alex, > > > > Sorry for forking the question, but have you > recently had any success in booting Milax 0.5 from > its vdi image? I keep getting the "WARNING: init(1M) > exited on fa

Re: [osol-discuss] Milax 0.5 boot fails : login services can not start

2010-06-26 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Hi Alex, Sorry for forking the question, but have you recently had any success in booting Milax 0.5 from its vdi image? I keep getting the "WARNING: init(1M) exited on fatal signal 9, restarting automatically" message? Updating Oracle VirtualBox to the 3.2.6 did not help. No problem booting

Re: [osol-discuss] You're invited : Oracle Solaris Day, June 28th,

2010-06-24 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> -- > Erik Trimble > Java System Support > Mailstop: usca22-123 > Phone: x17195 > Santa Clara, CA > Timezone: US/Pacific (GMT-0800) Thanks, I am actually more interested in seeing that Safra (Catz) answered questions relating to Sun (which could mean that she the highest Oracle executive u

Re: [osol-discuss] You're invited : Oracle Solaris Day, June 28th,

2010-06-24 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/confcall/streetevents/SIG=133mnknrs/*http%3a//web.servicebureau.net/conf/meta?i=1113167739&c=2343&m=was&u=/w_ccbn.xsl&date_ticker=ORCL or http://biz.yahoo.com/cc/7/114227.html The above is the link to the earnings conference call, it is still working hours here (1

Re: [osol-discuss] You're invited : Oracle Solaris Day, June 28th,

2010-06-24 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 09:15 -0700, Orvar Korvar > wrote: > > I would love to come, but it is a bit too far for > me. :o) > > > > If you have any slides, it would be great if you > later posted them on the net so everyone got up to > date about the current status. > > I can't make it either, I a

Re: [osol-discuss] thanks to all who helped choochoo with OSOL & message to Oracle/ Sun

2010-06-24 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > Money would be better spent on receiving a degree > from an accredited college or university. Everyone > knows what my BA and MS degree abbreviations mean. > When my PhD is completed, they also recognize that. Been there. Done that. But son, if I were 30 years younger, I would be more t

Re: [osol-discuss] thanks to all who helped choochoo with OSOL & message to Oracle/ Sun

2010-06-21 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
r Principal Engineer, Solaris Core OS Engineering President, Trusted Computing Group Phone: +1 650 786 6309 (Internal x86309) On Jun 20, 2010, at 12:36 PM, "W. Wayne Liauh" wrote: > > During the installation of Solaris Express, shortly after the kernel is > loaded, a Java virtual

Re: [osol-discuss] thanks to all who helped choochoo with OSOL & message to Oracle/ Sun

2010-06-20 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > -- > Erik Trimble > Java System Support > Mailstop: usca22-123 > Phone: x17195 > Santa Clara, CA Hi Erik, Thanks a whole lot for taking time to post your thoughts. Different people will react differently. I am sure you are aware that the stronger a person is devoted to Solaris, the

Re: [osol-discuss] Happy Birthday OpenSolaris

2010-06-15 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I believe this project started as the "Open Solaris" Project (with a "space" in between), from which it was evolved the SXCR DVD iso image, which those of us outside of Sun must download in a multiplicity of compressed iso segments (one segment at a time at a "whopping" 100 KB per second max), a

Re: [osol-discuss] [i18n-discuss] SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus [PSARC/2010/065 FastTrack timeout 03042010]

2010-03-08 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> -- > -Alan Coopersmith- > - alan.coopersm...@sun.com > Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window > ow System > You have just inadvertently answered an important question that many of us are wondering: Will OpenSolaris survive? I think the answer now is terribly clear, even f

Re: [osol-discuss] [i18n-discuss] SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus [PSARC/2010/065 FastTrack timeout 03042010]

2010-03-08 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > I believe anyone expecting any engineer to know > all > > the parts of > > the system is woefully underestimating just how > much > > software we > > have and what you consider to be "common > knowledge" > > is not as > > common as you think. > > Yeah, except I am not an ARC member. I don't k

Re: [osol-discuss] [i18n-discuss] SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus [PSARC/2010/065 FastTrack timeout 03042010]

2010-03-08 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> I believe anyone expecting any engineer to know all > the parts of > the system is woefully underestimating just how much > software we > have and what you consider to be "common knowledge" > is not as > common as you think. Yeah, except I am not an ARC member. I don't know about you, but if I

Re: [osol-discuss] [i18n-discuss] SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus [PSARC/2010/065 FastTrack timeout 03042010]

2010-03-08 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> On 03/ 8/10 01:04 AM, Fuyuki Hasegawa - Sun > Microsystems wrote: > > This case has been approved with +1. > > > > I did give this case a +1, but there is still an > unanswered question > (see my mail from the 3rd). Please answer that > question before > approving the case. > > -Seb > __

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] Can't Install OpenOffice.org 3.2 in B133

2010-03-08 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> BTW, have you done anything about > running the OpenOffice.org > plugin in NetBeans? > > /blockquote> > > No, haven't done anything with the Openoffice > NetBeans plugin. > > Paul > Just a note to self-- Geertjan has a brief blog entry on integrating OpenOffice.org into the NetBeans Platform:

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] Can't Install OpenOffice.org 3.2 in B133

2010-03-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> On 03/ 2/10 11:58 PM, Paul Gress wrote: > > On 03/ 2/10 07:59 PM, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> It gets just past grub and then just > >>> hangs indefinitely. > >>> > >> >> > >

Re: [osol-discuss] [i18n-discuss] SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus [PSARC/2010/065 FastTrack timeout 03042010]

2010-03-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Compared to other Linux distros, the IIIMF in > OpenSolaris also comes with an on-screen keyboard. > For users who have to use a non-US keyboard (e.g., > the bopomofo keyboard for traditional Chinese > speakers), this is really handy. It is sad that > this advantage was never widely advertised.

Re: [osol-discuss] [i18n-discuss] SunPinyin (2.0) for iBus [PSARC/2010/065 FastTrack timeout 03042010]

2010-03-04 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> The fact that the state of the art appears to be ibus > and that it is not > the default on Solaris is a detriment to projects > such as this that are > integrating new features for ibus. > > Hasegawa-san, I believe you were both the case owner > and the project > team for the ibus integrat

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] Can't Install OpenOffice.org 3.2 in B133

2010-03-02 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> I downloaded and installed OpenOffice 3.2 last night > on my snv_133 x64 system, the only hiccup I saw was > the "Next" button being grayed out on the initial > setup screen - but clicking the "Help" button, then > returning to the initial setup screen resulted in it > becoming available (weird),

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] Can't Install OpenOffice.org 3.2 in B133

2010-03-02 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> I also had a problem, but with Openoffice 3.0 Dev m72 > version.  It > hosed Opensolaris b133 so it wouldn't boot.  I > had to BE to 132, delete > 133 and re-upgrade.  This is exactly what happened to me, except that the BE that was hosed was a clone of b133. All I needed to do was "beadm

Re: [osol-discuss] opensolaris on slashdot

2010-02-26 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
My take is this, I read all the 300+ messages posted at Slashdot, and found it amazing that one could surmise what Oracle may or may not do wrt one of its most important assets without seriously entering Chairman Larry into the equation. (As we all know, Chairman Larry owns about one quarter

Re: [osol-discuss] opensolaris on slashdot

2010-02-24 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:34:08 -0500, Michael Lee > wrote: > > > Ultimately the slashdot link points to a short > article on Phronix about the not-so-bright future of > OpenSolaris at Oracle, albeit the article is a bit > weak on real content--still something about > OpenSolaris made it on slashd

Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris 2010.03?

2010-02-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Is the next formal release still planned for 2010.03 > and based on build 134? After very disappointing failures from previous builds, my hope was very high on b133, especially since it is so close to the os2010.03 official release. But b133 (LiveCD) still failed to boot from two of our three

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> In any case, there's plenty of reason for folks > outside Sun/Oracle to > build their own distro to cater to their needs > -- > Erik Trimble > Java System Support > Mailstop: usca22-123 > Phone: x17195 > Santa Clara, CA > One of the most significant but often overlooked advantages of

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> I'll ask any question I want, so GFY! > > Chinese using a Western name talks about using real > names! > > Message was edited by: gpatrick It is way beyond my dignity to even read your post, but my great great grand father immigrated from China to Maui some time after the Civil War, & I am p

Re: [osol-discuss] b132 is out!

2010-02-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> No, on the contrary, nightly builds are only against > OpenSolaris. Thanks, it always helps to know this is the case. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] b132 is out!

2010-02-04 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> For some reason Firefox 3.6 (tar.gz version) won't > start in b132 (it worked in b131). Looks like the nightly build was built only against S10? Please this not be the case; so many people have worked so hard on OpenSolaris! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

2010-02-04 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> To put this to rest then. OpenSolaris is not a > different operating system than Solaris 10. Just a > different name, not a fork like OpenBSD from NetBSD > in any way. Strictly a name change to reflect that > it's open source? If you want to continue to post stupid comments, please use your r

Re: [osol-discuss] b132 is out!

2010-02-04 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
For some reason Firefox 3.6 (tar.gz version) won't start in b132 (it worked in b131). -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Should OS2010.03 stick to the 2010.03 release date?

2010-01-31 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > However, the open source version of the QQ client > is known to have limited features (though it should > be good enough for inclusion in OpenSolaris). But as > I am sure you are aware, Tencent actually provides QQ > clients for various platforms, including Linux. Most > Linux distros avoid t

Re: [osol-discuss] What's Going to Happen to OpenSolaris?

2010-01-29 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> What happens to JavaFX? Larry Ellison rarely, if ever, commented on any specific product of the companies that he acquired. JavaFX is probably the only exception. The words he used were that he encouraged OpenOffice.org developers to "write OpenOffice.org libraries in JavaFX". Many comment

Re: [osol-discuss] [ug-bjosug] 欢迎参加:由 北京OpenSolaris用户 组与北京GNOME用 户组第二次携手组织的活动(2010 年1月28日星期四)

2010-01-29 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Thanks to Emily Chen for putting together the seminar > photos and slides at: > > http://tinyurl.com/bj-oracle > Oops, "下载" means "download" (the seminar slides). But I don't see anyone on this forum should have any problem guessing that. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] [ug-bjosug] 欢迎参加:由 北京OpenSolaris用户 组与北京GNOME用 户组第二次携手组织的活动(2010 年1月28日星期四)

2010-01-29 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Thanks to Emily Chen for putting together the seminar photos and slides at: http://tinyurl.com/bj-oracle (As you can see, English is still the language of choice.) > 可否请演讲者将他们的讲义post到网站上,让我们不住在北京的也可以共享? Thanks > > (Could you please ask the speakers to post their > seminar notes on the web so

Re: [osol-discuss] Goodbye Sun.com

2010-01-28 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> I hope Oracle will not rebrand OpenSolaris / Solaris > look and feel, which tends to be blue/silver to > something bright red. It would be just too annoying. Bright red will do very well in the greater China market. Very very well, indeed. Thus, quite contrary to what probably everyone else i

Re: [osol-discuss] What's Going to Happen to OpenSolaris?

2010-01-27 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> While OpenSolaris is already open source (mostly), > there were some plans within Sun to open source more > technologies, but Sun didn't get to it because of the > merger. In particular - Sun Studio, C++ compiler etc. > Interesting what are Oracle intentions in regards to > keeping those plans?

Re: [osol-discuss] Should OS2010.03 stick to the 2010.03 release date?

2010-01-27 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> It is not a technical issue, but a legal one. > > I don't know if it is legal to ship a QQ client > created by using "reverse engineering". > But I know, in 2006, Tencent filed a copyright > lawsuit against Chen Shoufu (aka Soff), the author of > Coral QQ, whose redistributing modified Tencent Q

Re: [osol-discuss] What's Going to Happen to OpenSolaris?

2010-01-27 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Oracle is not exactly known as being > friendly to open > source software This statement is not exactly fair. Oracle has been one of the major contributors to the Linux kernel. Also, Oracle was "the" first elite company to port its mainstream products to the Linux platform (this move gave Li

Re: [osol-discuss] Should OS2010.03 stick to the 2010.03 release date?

2010-01-27 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
BTW the webcast of the Oracle/Sun strategy session is still going on: http://tinyurl.com/os-012710 I have to take off now. If anyone hears anything about OpenSolaris, please let us know. Thanks. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ openso

Re: [osol-discuss] Should OS2010.03 stick to the 2010.03 release date?

2010-01-27 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> You can > see just as much as > most Sun employees can. > > -Alan Coopersmith- > - alan.coopersm...@sun.com > Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System > em Engineering "Most" of Sun's employees don't even use OpenSolaris! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org __

Re: [osol-discuss] Should OS2010.03 stick to the 2010.03 release date?

2010-01-27 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> It is not a technical issue, but a legal one. > > I don't know if it is legal to ship a QQ client > created by using "reverse engineering". > But I know, in 2006, Tencent filed a copyright > lawsuit against Chen Shoufu (aka Soff), the author of > Coral QQ, whose redistributing modified Tencent Q

Re: [osol-discuss] Should OS2010.03 stick to the 2010.03 release date?

2010-01-27 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> The only bug report I find was closed by one of the > pidgin maintainers from > Sun's Beijing office as not possible since the QQ > network owners don't allow > third-party clients: > http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=7767 > Thanks Alan (as always), but plse see the attached scree

Re: [osol-discuss] Should OS2010.03 stick to the 2010.03 release date?

2010-01-27 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> The only bug report I find was closed by one of the > pidgin maintainers from > Sun's Beijing office as not possible since the QQ > network owners don't allow > third-party clients: > http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=7767 > Thanks Alan (as always), but plse see the attache

[osol-discuss] Should OS2010.03 stick to the 2010.03 release date?

2010-01-26 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
The OS2010.03 LiveCD is supposed to be released in 03, 2010. As such, the "final" RC should be out by the end of February (& based on the previous releases, the "official" release will be binary-identical to the final RC). However, based on what I read and from my own experiences (it won't even

Re: [osol-discuss] howto: solaris 10 and OpenSolaris on the same zfs root pool

2010-01-19 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > Here's a quick dump on how to get Solaris 10 and > OpenSolaris > on the same rpool. > > ttp://blogs.sun.com/mrj/entry/solaris_10_and_opensolar > is_on > > > > MRJ > Thanks for the plug, will give it a try. ps. Currently, I have Sol10 installed on the bare metal and OpenSolaris on an e

Re: [osol-discuss] [ug-bjosug] 欢迎参加:由 北京OpenSolaris用户 组与北京GNOME用 户组第二次携手组织的活动(2010 年1月28日星期四)

2010-01-18 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
可否请演讲者将他们的讲义post到网站上,让我们不住在北京的也可以共享? Thanks (Could you please ask the speakers to post their seminar notes on the web so that those of us who are not living in Beijing can also enjoy the learning experience? Thanks.) > 大家好, > > 北京OpenSolaris用户组第三十四次会议将于1月 28日在北京清华科技园创新大厦A > 座7层SUN公司会议室举行。同时,

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_130

2010-01-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Oh I agree, but I bet there's a lot of us who have > been using, live > upgrading, testing and providing feedback on SXCE > since it was a stroppy > teenager and haven't made the leap into the > OpenSolaris realm. It's > been too stable for its own good. > > -- > Ian. > Of course! I have

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_130

2010-01-03 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> The time you need to install OpenSolaris is much > larger than installing > SXCE, mostly trying to find which packages you've > missed this time. > > Casper > This kind of "extra" effort is NOTHING compared to what those of us who are moving from Linux to Solaris/OpenSolaris have to go throu

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2009-12-30 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> I really need to get on with my honours project - > which is on Solaris Zones btw. Instead I've spent the > past day filing nice new bugs in OpenSolaris. I guess > that's the price I pay for being on the bleeding > edge. ;-) > > Cheers > > Andrew. My take is, thanks to AlanC's info in a separa

Re: [osol-discuss] "Invisible" Gnome-Terminal Problem

2009-12-21 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Check out this bug > http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/indiana-discuss/ > 2009-December/017158.html > > Scroll down to the description for: > 12380 image-update loses /dev/ptmx from > m /etc/minor_perm > for more information and instructions to fix. Yes, snv_129 seems to have solved this kn

[osol-discuss] "Invisible" Gnome-Terminal Problem

2009-12-20 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I was happy (at least for a while) to see that the following problem was solved in snv_129: " . . . using terminal programs such as gnome-terminal(1) or xterm(1) may result in characters not being echoed or commands unable to be typed." However, after playing with input methods with the gnome-t

Re: [osol-discuss] Why is using Package Manager such a pain in the A$$?

2009-12-01 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > Is expressing amusement "language that causes > resentment"? > > Or is the bad language you are talking about the > reference to "A$$" in > the subject line? > > Has our forum come to this? > > Brian I believe you have answered your own question. (&thus then why bothered to ask?) -- Th

Re: [osol-discuss] Why is using Package Manager such a pain in the A$$?

2009-12-01 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> I'm amused that you think that re-writing IPS in the > C language would > make it run that much faster. > > Cheers, > -- > Shawn Walker Hi Shawn, You are, of course, a very respectable member of this forum (an understatement), but please refrain from using languages that may cause resen

Re: [osol-discuss] Frustrated beyond belief trying to cobble together a zfs platform

2009-11-22 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> I want, like about 90% of the more literate home > computer users to put together a zfs file server for > my ever-growing home network. Very recently, one of Sun's bloggers started a blog about building a small and energy-efficient OpenSolaris/zfs-based home server: http://blogs.sun.com/cons

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] Font location/packaging changes for X consolidation fonts

2009-11-21 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 00:07 -0800, W. Wayne Liauh > wrote: > > > Why can't we try to duplicate the Ubuntu desktop if > this is not already being considered? > > Because I do not want Ubuntu? And with me many others > (I hope). > When Yong Sun (the "Ala

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris SXCE 126 in VirtualBox

2009-11-15 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > >> W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > >>> I am running OpenSolaris in Jaunty (Ubuntu 9.06) > >> now Kamic (Ubuntu 9.10) under VBox (fully updated, > >> now to 3.0.10). Here's a brief summary of the > >> problems:

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris SXCE 126 in VirtualBox

2009-11-09 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > > I am running OpenSolaris in Jaunty (Ubuntu 9.06) > now Kamic (Ubuntu 9.10) under VBox (fully updated, > now to 3.0.10). Here's a brief summary of the > problems: > > > > 1. no problem with os08011 liveCD and subsequent > insta

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris SXCE 126 on X61 unusable

2009-11-08 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Try harder - which new Xorg version? > > snv_107 - Xorg 1.5.3 > snv_116 - Xorg 1.6.1 > snv_120 - Xorg 1.6.2 > snv_121 - Xorg 1.6.3 > snv_126 - Xorg 1.6.5 > I am running OpenSolaris in Jaunty (Ubuntu 9.06) now Kamic (Ubuntu 9.10) under VBox (fully updated, now to

Re: [osol-discuss] opensolaris b122 liveCD runs so slowly on mac's virtualbox 3.0.4

2009-09-09 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> it's so slow, that I need to wait ~1min to see the > cursor movement for moving my mouse. > > Message was edited by: yongsun I have run into a different kind of problem; I wasn't even able to boot from the b122 image (AMD quad-core, Nvidia video, 8 GB RAM, trying to boot from VBox 3.0.4 under

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