, Aug 12, 2012 at 6:47 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't forget the recent evidence act, and a proposal to amend the multimedia
act.
I think they are scaring away investor for the IT sector! Especially the way
certain minister talk
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Boh Yap bhy
property industry, though
short-lived. Sad but true.
On Aug 15, 2012 6:08 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
MSC has been around close to 2 decades, and while we are still playing
around as bureaucrats lets compare what other 'MSCs' are doing
NICTA- National ICT Australia, started in 2002
hi all,
Firstly, I apologise for coming into this late, have not been
following OSDC list much lately, work... then Red1 pulled me into
this.
So gathering some facts from above, here is my rant.
1. Centralized IT
Need to rethink, centralization offers benefits like economies of
scale,
hi,
to you hackers, err.. security experts out there
http://vimeo.com/28284322
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hi all,
Following up on UK gov policies on Opeb Source for Edu, they now use
it for the entire gov.
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/The-open-source-behind-gov-uk-revealed-1426513.html
they ..do, don't talk
While our gov can't make up its own mind wait, its owned by
proprietary SW
hi Raja, Red, Haris
I started writing a crititique on the Bill, and I came to realise I was
just finding flaws and overlooked a completely BIGGER Flaw in the bill... I
was missing the forest for the trees!
This is what I came up with after several iterations It is not complete
and I don't
are experiencing having summer :).
Peace!
red1
On 12/11/11 1:31 AM, Boh Yap wrote:
hi,
I am reposting this on its own separate thread, with changes to correct
typos.
(Its the same as the one in the other thread...)
Feel free to comment and use its points...
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hi,
..this is a long one, I have tried to logical but critical. ..
Critique of the points in the Bill
==
After reading thru the contents of the bill, it seems to be thrown together
without deep thought or sufficient discussion. The objective of setting up
such a
, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
..this is a long one, I have tried to logical but critical. ..
Critique of the points in the Bill
==
After reading thru the contents of the bill, it seems to be thrown
together without deep
hi,
I am reposting this on its own separate thread, with changes to correct
typos.
(Its the same as the one in the other thread...)
Feel free to comment and use its points...
Critique of the points in the Bill
==
After reading thru the contents of the bill, it
hi rafe,
I plan to be in CyberJaya on Sat, do some server reinstall at CBJ1
datacentre, perhaps meet in CyberJaya on Sat 10 Dec, sometime around 10:30?
Pls name a place...
thanks.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim
ihsan.juna...@gmail.com wrote:
main banyak la kau.
On
maybe there's a geek in there trying to get out of a bureaucrat's suit?
I mean that in a good way of course...;-)
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
rajaiskand...@gmail.comwrote:
rafe, seriously ?
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:37 PM, azs...@gmail.com azs...@gmail.com wrote:
sorry, I wrote this some time back, but it got stuck in my outbox, or
rather drafts... but the arguments are still valid.
BTW, in yesterdays TheStar, Idris Jala head of PEMANDU came out with a
full 2-page 'expalnation' for the 1Malaysia email...
more updates on triCubes
hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/
the above article Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the
1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the
information
server
inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist.
maybe someone should poke him.
if i got that job,50m.i will_.:D
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia
dude,
red1 said it many years ago: The SW is free, but the people isn't
and RMS: Freedom not free beer
Ordinary folks do not have a clear concept. Part of the education
process about FLOSS should include this.
We should not be afraid, to charge for our services, especially for
'for profit'
hi,
woot, looked at the API docs and its way too ugly... its Java, I
prefer sane programming languages like Python, perhaps Haskell,
SmallTalk, Lisp... (which I'll like to learn..)
Any an API, - and I'm speaking generically, as I don't know Java, and
probably will never learn it..., is nothing
hi,
Cracked the LPI exam.. -- this just hi-lights the sad case with
Malaysia. We seem to have a very bad attitude to learning, its not to
acquire knowledge, its just so that we can pass the exam, as said here
. so we can pass it easily.. YES!
What about hard work and experience, naah,...
System) and/or Issue/BugTracking
system is also equivalent to a log book. How many proprietry projects
actually use those tools?
OSDC care to take a survey?
On 4/3/11 2:19 AM, Boh Yap wrote:
ah, good discussion, logbook vs exams, lets carry on...
These are 2 different paradigms,
From
; describing how to replicate the bug, and
which Bug tracker number refers to which commit revision. Just an idea on
how to be lazy fruitfully.
On 4/3/11 2:19 AM, Boh Yap wrote:
ah, good discussion, logbook vs exams, lets carry on...
These are 2 different paradigms,
From the employee POV
hi Red1,
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 4:41 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:
Boh, it is ok in Malaysia because the man they hire to head MDec is not that
technical either. Raja told me he is a salesman. And MOSTI big wigs are left
to law abiding beaurocrats. I use to see their job specs with a
in the offing. Now that is worth a billion to the
country if we got just one miserable candidate.
On 4/3/11 6:04 PM, Boh Yap wrote:
hi Red1,
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 4:41 PM, red1r...@red1.org wrote:
Boh, it is ok in Malaysia because the man they hire to head MDec is not
that
technical
if you got the minimal skillsets.
On 4/2/11 1:09 AM, Boh Yap wrote:
hi all,
to widen this discussion
Personally, I'm against certification as the SOLE means of selection,
maybe its because of our over emphasis of A's in exams, that produced
'qualified' but incompetent personnel. Also
hi all,
to widen this discussion
Personally, I'm against certification as the SOLE means of selection,
maybe its because of our over emphasis of A's in exams, that produced
'qualified' but incompetent personnel. Also perhaps of the many MCSE's
out there, who are trained to click buttons...
blog or own website
to be refer to.
Another way to do this is to have them attending OSS workshop for
example by HackerspaceKL or any OSS community. We can review them
during the events.
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
hi all,
to widen this discussion
are the 'Malaysian' distros gonna follow this ;-) ??
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Hafidz Nasruddin haf...@gmail.com wrote:
http://news.opensuse.org/2011/04/01/the-canterbury-distribution/
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com
wrote:
It not just opensuse
hi all,
perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came
across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
interesting and different.
if you go to LPI:
http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi
http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1
It will explain it.
From what I
, they tend to
only appreciate vendor certifications.
Eric
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
hi all,
perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came
across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
interesting and different
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hi all,
perhaps there should be a bit more
. The certification program itself is considered neutral and
applicable to moat distros.
As for the syllabus always check the LPI site for the latest and moat
concise one.
Eric
On Wednesday, March 30, 2011, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
Eric,
so does that mean they don't recognize LPI? If so too
hmmm...
Skali is not exactly a FLOSS player, they were an early player to try
to be a major ISP, but there are leaner, smaller, cheaper guys out
there now...
I don't think they will willingly divulge their technology to
'educate' others (so they would think) such that other competitors
will grow
perhaps, as a FLOSS supporter...
we/they have a deep distrust of MS (we are talking of Azure, right?) ?!
I notice there is interest on this list on the Skali Cloud and perhaps
others
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:
Team,
only 15
hi,
some very good points were raised, I've added some comments below...
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:
Criminals can’t compete with free. The study finds no
why this paranoia?
Surely anything available thru the normal media channels cannot be
considered a secret? Part of the being 'open' is the sharing of
information, no?
And why should content related to 'open' tenders by secrets? As a
thought experiment, suppose prices specs for such tenders are
...@ghodmode.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
hi
No big deal, on the one hand, the the major sponsors of this program
is the MPAA, the RIAA which represent the recording and movie
industries. These are the people who sue single mothers and kids
hi,
I got this quote from Lawrence Lessig's book, Free Culture.
He uses FOSS as an example... especially as a learning platform.
This opportunity creates a completely new kind of learning platform,
as Brown describes. As soon as you start doing that, you . . .
unleash a free collage on the
Haris,
I would like to help in this area if I can. Ie: meetings,
brainstorming sessions etc... but may not have time for the
coordination/admin work. Perhaps that can be overcome by setting up
some sort of a collaboration wen-site - a Wiki or equivalent.
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 1:55 AM,
hi,
@tajul,
MQA is part of MoE, it sez so right on the banner of their website!
http://www.mqa.gov.my/
Perhaps you should check out first b4 writing, this forum is not Facebook ;-)
@ghodnode
Thanks for your insightful opinion. I agree 'coding' is more an art
than a science and that passion
hi
No big deal, on the one hand, the the major sponsors of this program
is the MPAA, the RIAA which represent the recording and movie
industries. These are the people who sue single mothers and kids for
downloading content! While they make fat profits by charging
exorbitant prices for their
hi all,
here's another rant, its directed at our Educational system, but done
in a less brutal way than the 'last' nuclear exchange between Red and
Rafe ;-) Sabar guys you both got your points,
Have a read and pls comment...
Critique of MQA Computing Program Document
hi,
All this talk about building a Malaysian(?) distro has intrigued me
... so I did a quick search and LWN (Linux World Net) has this list of
distribuitions...
http://lwn.net/Distributions/
some are categorized for specific purposes such for Edu, desktop and server.
There are some such as
haris,
Boh,
here, don't mind speaking... what are times and date?
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:32 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote:
Seriously Doubt it, but I ask around anyway
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:
Swee Meng,
Anyone
hi,
L.Rasmusson the creator of GWave (Also GMap) left Google and join FB.
I only found out about the demise of Gwave recently, jeez I feel kinda
behind
my take, and what we can learn from it...
I guess Rasmusson was pissed that his baby was not supported by
Google. I would have felt the
well,
maybe 'some people' do not consider JS to be a 'real language' seeing
that it 'only' lives within the browser!? It took a long time for
scripting/interpreted languages ie Python, Ruby, PHP to be accepted as
real languages remember?
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:18 AM, E A Faisal
hi all,
I think we got to cast our net wider or maybe deeper... our whole edu
system sucks becos we are too involved in a 'paper chase' - how many
A's you got, what degree you got, etc... and little on actual hands
on, problem solving skills.
(b4 posting this, I read thru it again and the 1st 4
hi Red,
good one, its a socio-psycological phenomena that is worth at least a
Masters thesis!
But I will also add one thing, its not how much you rant, but also how
eloquently you communicate your ideas, humour, wit and clarity is
important. After all, communications skills is also a important
IMHO,
1. very EXPENSIVE courses.
2. secondly, aside for the UML course, its all for propriertry SW products.
Hence I don't think this posting is quite relevant to OSDC, whose name
suggest we do Open Source stuff...
but that's just my opinion ;-)
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Mohd Hidzuan
hi all,
I have been lurking on this list, been too busy to respond but when I
read this... last week I was honoured to give a presentation at the
Ministry of Education for Malaysia’s Open Source Software Conference.
Ministry of Education for Malaysia’s Open Source Software Conference
!! (Oct
Microsoft lost the mobile -top or whatever you call it...
Their server market share is eroding...
They also is losing the web desk-top, and they know it.
This is an act of desperation, its a tool to lock you in..
and most people will steer clear of it.
However there will always be moths
hi,
in targeting education, you have 2 groups - the students and teachers.
One of the ways to push OSS in schools is to provide tools to make the
admin work for teachers easier...
perhaps tools like this could help:
http://www.schooltool.org/
There's also Edubuntu, a version of Ubuntu that
hi all,
for those that think that Python is 'just a scripting' language' and
not suitable for 'Mission Critical' applications like a 'real
language', such as Java or C++, WingIDE's site
http://wingware.com/python/success
has a list of Python success stories that include:
- Air Traffic
, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:
Google App Engine Python Overview
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/overview.html
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
hi all,
for those that think that Python is 'just a scripting
hi lufti,
you say yr research concerns FOSS in education, I think there are 2 aspects:
1. using FOSS to teach computer literacy, computing and related subjects
2. using FOSS as the underlying infrastructure, and the delivery mechanism
The 2 can be independent, although ideally they work best
hi
great to see this happening in KB, ...
a few questions:
is this a technical talk/workshop?
1. who is the target audience for this talk, beginners, intermmediate
developers, or even users?
2. who are the speakers or vendors?
3. is it using FOSS(Free and Open Source Software) tools?
3. what
hi,
most will know, I'm not a PHP user but a Python guy..
I think for their team to and make such a decision is not a trivial
one. They must have encountered issues that caused them to think that
way make those decisions.
Also, I think, SAHANA is a very mission-critical system, and you are
hi,
I tend to agree with Red, we are too far behind to let purely 'market
forces' do their work. An enlightened government can guide/persuade in
certain directions and accelerate the process, although I strongly
disagree that Dr.M guided us well! Because of HIS myopic vision we
have a crappy car
leadership at the
top, or at least capable advisors.
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
I tend to agree with Red, we are too far behind to let purely 'market
forces' do their work. An enlightened government can guide/persuade in
certain directions and accelerate
hi,
ERP is a complex subject... and something I claim to know very little
of,... but what would be useful is this.
1. Run thru a 'case study' of a ERP implementation plan for a business
of meduim complexity, eg: a SME with few hundred employees and a few
locations. This serves a few objectives:
like GapMinder, powerful both in terms of
capability and the way it can be 'world-changing' to the relevant
people...
IMy interests lie in the bio-informatics sphere and I see a lot of use
for this kind of number-crunching...
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
hi Raja
ha,
being an OSX user and a Linux user, I'll have to throw in my 2 cents worth
From the marketing POV, Linux ( other FOSS OS) has a few problem, it
is still very much a 'geek' tool. Many noobs still have problems
installing Linux and getting it to work properly on their own... (yes
the new
hi,
Go is the new C-like system programming language developed and OSS by Google.
It can be found on google's site somewhere...
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:19 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote:
salam good day all,
according to the TIOBE index C is now the most used programming language.
A few points here:
@Haris, Nuhaa
better to scale down the scope, Python vs PHP FOR WEB PROGRAMMING,
would be a better directive.
But being unfair to Python?
I hardly think so. Frameworks like Django can go head to head with
Joomla anytime, Zope/Plone can scale to Wikipedia/Facebook size
Ang,
you're right, this is all in fun... those of us who know a few
languages know that.. perhaps the pt is to educate the noobs, or the
monolinguists ;-)
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:37 PM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Ang Chin Han
hi,
one thing I forgot to add, Python is great as a beginners language,
ie: for teaching programming, to kids to Comp Sc students etc.
It has all the paradigms and jargon for modern languages, its free,
and its easy to get started. And did I mention, its just about the
only language I find that
Amran et al,
true, thats an old argument,... it depends on the skills of the
craftsmen, but if that craftsmen is so good, and he can do good things
with crappy tools, don't you thing he can do even more wonderful
things with better tools!?
think... if Leonardo had access to modern tools,
, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
PHP... I don't use it, so can't say..
Python:
runs on more platforms than Java!
(Symbian/mobiles all the way to Cray supercomputers)
Wide application range, not just web-programming, can do systems
programming, network programming
, then discovered Python.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
hi raja,
sorry didn't quite understand what you saying...
but if you need help with python related stuff you're always welcome.
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
rajaiskand...@gmail.com
well,
revolutions can be bloodless, but the outcomes vary!
one solution is to provide positions for all those unemployed IT
Grads BUT will that solve the problem? There is a reason they are
unemployed... (and MSC companies are hiring Indian,... programmers),
and most are MS trained anyway,
what!?
you can't use ePerolehan without using windows!!
what if I'm bidding for a gov FOSS project tender!
(if ever they are so enlightened, or is it MS's evil ploy to prevent
tht from ever happening!) ...;-) the irony...
yes the dunderheads rule.
on another note:,
In Australia, they are
hi all,
2-3 yrs ago is not 'new', in construction industry, you can build a
skyscraper in 3 yrs!
I'm sure most of us, here, are willing to contribute as consutants
etc... not entirely free of course (given the amount gov. pay
vendors!).
Could be a win-win, cost savings on gov. side, better
ah,
Azrul is restating R.Stallmans comments buts it s OK..
there are Open Source Clouds, ie: clouds by Open Src companies who
adhere to a philosophy of FOSS, transparency, ...etc, but there are
also FOSS tools to allow you to build yr own cloud here is a URL
What?! Python.my not listed!!
we can be located here:
http://groups.google.com/group/pythonmy ~ just sign up if you're interested
website currently in progress
just drop a post and someone will answer...
Marcus is our acknowledged benevolent leader ;-)
...
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:00
Haris,
no worries, was kidding ;-)
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:
Haiya sorry. To many I may overlook. Will update for the next update.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
What?! Python.my not listed!!
we
and I'll like to add one more point to sensei Azrul
Having spent public money, yours and mine hard earned $, shouldn't
these SW should then be made OSS? - in other words availabe to the
public?
2010/2/19 Azrul MADISA azrulha...@gmail.com:
There is nothing wrong if a company or an individual
hi all,
thanks for the criticism...
I criticise because we NEED to be critical (not to condemn), one
should not just accept being spoon-fed numbers as they are, but must
be substantiated. Perhaps I am cynical, but I/we have been fed too
much positive numbers by the powers that be, so much so
hi all,
I think not, I did a quick dirty survey of a few major .gov websites
and this is the result:
4 out of 19 are NOT OSS, thats 79% OSS, and 79 is not 95%!
Few intereting things to note:
1. www.malaysia.gov.my, THE MAIN .gov portal is running IIS!
2. those guys that went oracle prob have
...yes,
but I don't think you wanna mention (MY)OSCONF-2012 !
(FYI - 2012 is the last yr on the Mayan Calendar, which some
interpreted as the end of the world!...)
or maybe as a jibe to OReilly:
OSCONF 2012
has been cancelled due to unforseen circumstances
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 9:15 AM,
hi all,
For those interested in design issues, this is an interesting article
on the way Mac Windows handle fonts.
Doesnt mention Linux/X86 tho...
I know which I prefer... ;-)
http://damieng.com/blog/2007/06/13/font-rendering-philosophies-of-windows-and-mac-os-x
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stuff.
But first things first. Need to get the damn Internet infrastructure running
well first.
Eric
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
hi all,
want a 50% faster web browsing experiance, well not so soon...
but the guys at Google are working on it
http
hi,
one more thing I'll like to add, FLOSS, OSS gives us access to the
source, with whatever restrictions or lack of. Thats a good thing (w/o
going into the philosophy of it, that has been well expressed ..) and
the major advantage of it being the ..standing on shoulders of
giants effect, we
well a lot of it will be mute when the browser is now
predominately the 'acting' desktop, no?
For the average PC user, what is the time spent on browser (web-mail,
facebook, reading news, researching, browsing...) verses desktop apps?
And if you take MS Office out of the desktop apps, the
hi all,
want a 50% faster web browsing experiance, well not so soon...
but the guys at Google are working on it
http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/page/2/
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hi,
to continue, as bowsers will be desktops, the better browsers/desktops
are the FLOSS based ones, and essentailly there are only 2 FLOSS
web-browser engines:-
Mozilla/gecko - FireFox
Webkit - Chome, Safari
and you can test yr browser here and also get stats on the features of
all browsers
yeah got it, thanks ;-)
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:49 AM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote:
Boh, I've invited you.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
hi faisal,
pls include me, bhy...@gmail.com
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:34 AM, E A Faisal eafai
hi faisal,
pls include me, bhy...@gmail.com
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:34 AM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote:
Saya ada 22 lagi...cepat cepat for year end invitation...sila bagi tau
dengan kadar segera
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com
wrote:
ad 3
haris,
great job!
Perhaps OSDC can be the 'umbrella' organization for all these FOSS
communities, has many attempts been made to contact all of them, or at
least the active ones?
And also Gov organisations like MDEC, OSCC and perhaps MIMOS(?), Min
of Sc Tech(?) shld have a link to this list.
hi vince/ghodmode
hmmm.. perhaps OSDC should collect a list, with (contacts and URL) of
ALL the FOSS (Free Open Source SW) UGs in Malaysia. I am an active
member of the Python user group,
pytho...@googlegroups.com
and I believe there is a PHP group, not sure if there is a Java grp,
but I know
for MSC OSCONF 2010, ...let's not forget FOSS is about community, and
like cikgu Ayob, schools is one of those strategic communitites.
may I suggest the following:
FOSS Schools Competition,
rules is just use FOSS, have attractive prizes (can Sun, HP, IBM
Rafe all,
(I drafted this last nite, but my Internet connection was down (curse
streamyx) and only posted this around noon today...
agree with Raja, cultivating world-class developers, is like
cultivating other world-class artisans/scientists... notice those that
'made it' were not cultivated
hi rafe,
Its not I think, any of the following:
not by having a certificate,
not by their position or pay in a company
Not by recognition of some body/organisation,
(unless its someone like IBM appointg you as a
Research Fellow,
or MIT (and I don't mean Mara Inst.
hi all,
this picks up on an earlier thread by Red1 Raja Iskandar, on are we
loosing the branding war for the MSC... and also out of informal,
sometimes rather heated and passionate discussion of Msia's IT
future...
But the point is we are behind left behind! In Auto ind. we lost to
Thailand,
hi all,
yes, let's discuss on open lists, this is after all an 'open
community'. And Red1 has been honest and open in sharing his fetish in
this thread (see last few posts ;-)
https://mail.google.com/mail/#search/fetish/12445fea336919fc
Also I agree with Red1, let's outgrow our 'kiasu'
Haris,
Canonical had a great benefector, Mike Shuttleworth, that pumped in a
whole chunk of $, and Red Hat has its IPO.
End of the day the car wont run without fuel, the fuel is $
Here is an idea, OSDC (or any other FOSS community ) should have a
community fund, provided by (MDEC?, some
Qualification Board and met up with a very interesting contact
that can turn the whole project worldwide around. Strange how Karma
works, so i would leave it mysteriously at that :) (to leave the devil
guessing)
Boh Yap wrote:
hi all,
yes, let's discuss on open lists, this is after all an 'open
hi all,
if the branding war relates to IT, then I'd rather phrase it more poetically:
Are we being left behind in the e-dust of the k-economy ..TM ;-)
@Marcus,
re: marketing of your product, you should talk to MDec, afterall their
charter is to produce Msian success-stories, and you are
hi all,
ooops press send accidently... previous message was incomplete,
this is the complete one.
The usrges has no effect, MAMPUs OSS paper, if I remember correctly,
cannot be faulted, its the implementation that failed, there's no
teeth. And it does not address private sector, nor members
hi all,
and with all due respect to Rafe, he is on the other side, but he's on
our side;-)
So don't shoot the messenger.
I agree with Rafe, WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Often a lot of protests
is nothing more than 'tunjuk perasaan' thre's nothing concrete. If all
we have to offer re angry voices,
, if someone is willing to lead the National IT policy by the community
project fulltime, I'm more than willing to be the footsoldier.
Azrul
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:
hi all,
and with all due respect to Rafe, he is on the other side, but he's on
our side
hey
cool, curly braces I can live with!
(us Python guys hate curly-braces... ;-)
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:
http://golang.org/
Google software luminaries such as Unix co-creator Ken Thompson
believe that they can help boost both
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