RE: Dave's tip of the day (OT)

2010-10-10 Thread John Coyle
Sounds like fun - not! Do you do that for enjoyment? I can relate to the cold, a couple of years ago I was in a group that went up Mt. Moses in the Sinai Peninsula, with the aim of watching the sun rise over the desert. I gave up at about 2000m, as my heart was going about four times its normal

Re: Dave's tip of the day (OT)

2010-10-10 Thread David Mann
On Oct 10, 2010, at 5:38 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Been there, done that, in a mid-August thunder-rain-sleet-snowstorm in the White Mountains in New Hampshire many years ago. One of our threesome got chilled enough to take leave of his reason for a while. Scary. Yes it's always good to be

Re: Question for Pentax Cell Phone Discussion List

2010-10-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Joe, if the phone you bought in Sweden is unlocked (as in not exclusively bound to a given carrier/service provider), then the answer is yes. The SIM card is the identity whereas the phone is just the wrapper around the SIM. Boris On 10/8/2010 10:12 PM, jtainter wrote: Sorry for this post,

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Boris Liberman
On 10/9/2010 9:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote: When I travel light, I like to bring two lenses, a zoom and a fast prime. The zoom gives you the range of lengths, and the prime allows you to shoot in low light. Larry's right. Though having been a prime lenses person, I admit I wasn't all to right

The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Jens
Hi Guys Every time there's a new Pentax top model, I get this URGE - Must have, got to have it. And all the questions, how can I get it, what do I have to sell, should I tell my whife - or simply order it, should I sell the K20D or the K-7..and when will I get the money to buy a decent 500mm

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Boris Liberman
On 10/10/2010 11:39 AM, Jens wrote: Do you also get this URGE!! Well, yes, and it is called CBA and LBA respectively. CBA being Camera Buying Addiction and LBA being Lens Buying Addiction. On PDML it is called enablement (wink wink nod nod). Personally, I see no reason for me to upgrade

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Eric, If you don't take Eric up on his offer, Picasa is a good alternative. See here http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan I use the site to post sanpshots, it's free from Google. I started on an overseas trip to New Zealand as a way for the family to watch. And I surely enjoyed your story.

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jens, Yes, I have the URGE!! I was more resistant with film cameras, skipping generations - ME to Super Program to PZ-1 to *ist DS - But I'm gonna sell my lightly used K20 now. My moose pictures at ISO 1600 in the rain with failing light convinced me I need more speed and better focusing than the

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread paul stenquist
Of course. Sell the K20D. Soon. Don't tell your wife. Paul On Oct 10, 2010, at 5:39 AM, Jens wrote: Hi Guys Every time there's a new Pentax top model, I get this URGE - Must have, got to have it. And all the questions, how can I get it, what do I have to sell, should I tell my whife -

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread eckinator
yeah, make sure there are no three bodies in the house at any time. be very hyggelig about it =) 2010/10/10 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Of course. Sell the K20D. Soon. Don't tell your wife. Paul On Oct 10, 2010, at 5:39 AM, Jens wrote: Hi Guys Every time there's a new Pentax

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Jack Davis
Simply holding the latest model's advanced technology in your very own hands is a fix many of us need. Having 500 hp under the hood doesn't mean you'll use it..but the power of its presence can be intoxicating. Jack --- On Sun, 10/10/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Oct 10, 2010, at 12:11 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Oct 9, 2010, at 7:38 PM, paul stenquist wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by this. The exposure lock button is only valuable if you have a weird exposure situation, you can take a reading off a neutral subject and lock it. I think, on

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Oct 10, 2010, at 1:25 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: What a fascinating story! And so great that you're all going to get together. If you'd like to share the photos, you can e-mail them to me off list and I'll post them on my web site for a week or two - longer if you'd like. Thanks,

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Oct 10, 2010, at 3:38 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 10/9/2010 9:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote: When I travel light, I like to bring two lenses, a zoom and a fast prime. The zoom gives you the range of lengths, and the prime allows you to shoot in low light. Larry's right. Though having been

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Oct 10, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: If you don't take Eric up on his offer, Picasa is a good alternative. See here http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan I use the site to post sanpshots, it's free from Google. Thanks, Bob. I'll keep it in mind for when I have something that

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread drd1135
Better. Tell her it's the same one you always had. They all look alike, right? Damned colored Kxen. -Original Message- From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:24:09 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To:

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Boris Liberman
On 10/10/2010 2:36 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Simply holding the latest model's advanced technology in your very own hands is a fix many of us need. Having 500 hp under the hood doesn't mean you'll use it..but the power of its presence can be intoxicating. Jack Mind over matter or matter over

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Jeffery Smith
Are you kidding? It's obviously even greater than the self-preservation urge. I think my wife won't notice that the camera I'm carrying says K10 on it instead of the usual K100, but within minutes she busts me. And K5 looks a lot different from K7. I'm a dead man. Jeffery On Oct 10, 2010, at

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
The K5 and the K7 are essentially identical. Of course, that doesn't mean you're wrong about your wife. It's clearly embedded in the female genome. There must have been a Cro Magnon equivalent to new cameras to select out the trait. That new rock? You spend cave money on new rock? What wrong

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Boris Liberman
On 10/10/2010 3:06 PM, Eric Weir wrote: Thanks, Boris. I've gotten quite an education from this thread. That is, if I put into practice what's been suggested. I'm undecided about what to take for a long lens, my a 70/210, which I went shopping for because I knew it was highly rated, or to get me

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, it's a dilemma. Especially when you have a joint bank account and a vigilant wife. :( Jack --- On Sun, 10/10/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Re: The Urge To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, October 10,

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Christine Nielsen
This may surprise you fellas, but we wives get the urge, too, you know... (Sorry- still talking about cameras. What were you thinking?) ;) -c Sent from my iPhone On Oct 10, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, it's a dilemma. Especially when you have a joint bank

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Oct 10, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: In general, personally I would recommend against manual focus lenses, especially telephoto ones. My eyesight makes it difficult to focus precisely even with the help of Katz Eye (split prism, etc) focusing screen. Given that 70-210 (if it

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Oct 9, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: 1) Protect the surface of the lens, being cheaper and easier to replace. Would you want to use a polarizing filter the same way? I would not, because you will lose more

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Oct 9, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Brian Walters wrote: http://www.ephotozine.com/article/Guide-to-buying-a-polarising-filter-131 Thanks, for this, Brian. They've also got a companion piece on using polarizing filters.

RE: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread J.C. O'Connell
I have an Pentax A70-210mm F4 and its an excellent lens with great sharpness/color saturation, from corner to corner on a APS sensor (never tried it on film). based on its usual street price on ebay of around $90-$120 its currently a sleeper deal. PS, the build quality is real nice too. -- J.C.

Re: PESO - Disruption

2010-10-10 Thread Boris Liberman
BW for me, Rick. Boris On 10/9/2010 9:48 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Work and lots of choral music-making have kept me from posting a PESO in several weeks. I still don't have time, but what the hell. I took my camera along when I was out doing an errand this morning. I'm inclined toward the BW

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: A week from today I'll be taking off for Phoenix... I haven't been doing much shooting, but I imagine I'll be shooting a fair bit on this trip. Following advice given by several here earlier, I'm taking my DS and one

Re: OT GESO - Jonneine Zapata Cast The Demons Out Tour w. The Holy Soul + Loene Carmen (and my Voigtlander 75mm/1.8 initiation)

2010-10-10 Thread Boris Liberman
On 10/9/2010 12:27 PM, Derby Chang wrote: Compared to the 77, the 75 is actually significantly larger and heavier, which gives much kudos to the Pentax engineers. Surprise for me here... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: GESO: Moose

2010-10-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Looks like you got really lucky, Bob, even for an uninitiated fellow such as me... :-) Boris On 10/9/2010 4:26 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Last time we went to Maine, we looked in vain for moose among the fall colors. This time we found some, up close and personal.

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Oct 10, 2010, at 11:17 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: I have an Pentax A70-210mm F4 and its an excellent lens with great sharpness/color saturation, from corner to corner on a APS sensor (never tried it on film). based on its usual street price on ebay of around $90-$120 its currently a

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Oct 10, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The 28mm is a very good shoot anything choice for a Pentax DSLR. It is a wide-normal on the format. Be sure you have a good lens hood on it. I'd also bring a 50mm lens, if you have one. The combination of a wide normal and a short

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks, Godfrey. I do have a 50 -- a 1.7 M. Hadn't thought about a hood. Only ones I've got are built-in on longer lenses. Going with two small lenses  has strong appeal. [My 50 is smaller than the 28, even though it's

Re: Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Jens
...he, hye. I should have seen this comming And thsi form a woman with a Danish sur name.! And no, we don't have the same bank account. Although she CAN see what's going on. But at the moment, I make slightly more money form photography, than I actually spend on cameras etc. But I guess

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread John Francis
I think everybody gets the urge. The question is whether you succumb. It's not a new thing; I bought new film bodies occasionally, too. The first upgrade was to replace my Spotmatic II with an MX. Then, on an assignment on the other side of the world (New Zealand) I made my travel plans to

RE: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Bob W
Of course. Sell the K20D. Soon. Don't tell your wife. Paul you could always sell the wife: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36dlqoHqHMY -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread paul stenquist
On Oct 10, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Bob W wrote: Of course. Sell the K20D. Soon. Don't tell your wife. Paul you could always sell the wife: Excellent point. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36dlqoHqHMY -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Christine, for puncturing some of the latent sexism in this thread. In our household, I am the stingier of us, and it often takes a nudge from my wife to overcome my deeply ingrained resistance to spending money. Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sun, 10/10/10,

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Oct 10, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A normal lens hood, available as a screw-in metal hood in 49mm thread size for about $7 each, will work for both those lenses. Best thing you can add to those lenses to protect them and to reduce flare. While an additional longer lens

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Eric Weir
Here's the link to the photos that go with my story that Paul Sorenson put up on the web for me. As he explained, he enlarged them and tweaked the brightness and contrast a bit. I think they're fine. As I said to him, at times I get a bit choked up about this situation myself, and looking at

peso - just peso

2010-10-10 Thread Sasha Sobol
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5066292835/lightbox Would love to hear your comments and critique --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: PESO - Disruption

2010-10-10 Thread Sasha Sobol
BW is better. I would probably crop it differently. --Sasha On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: BW for me, Rick. Boris On 10/9/2010 9:48 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Work and lots of choral music-making have kept me from posting a PESO in several weeks.  I

Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
I find even Pros in most cases clueless on the use of flash. I should have taken a picture at the outdoor venue where the three Pro photographers were shooting a stage show with bounce flash, no ceiling, no bounce cards, just bouncing flash off of the night sky... Kind of like all those

Re: peso - just peso

2010-10-10 Thread Jack Davis
Because you asked, Sasha...it doesn't seem to move me.(?) Jack --- On Sun, 10/10/10, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: From: Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com Subject: peso - just peso To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, October 10, 2010, 10:48 AM

Re: peso - just peso

2010-10-10 Thread Walter Gilbert
I really like the way the sky looks and wish there'd been more of it in this shot. I think I see what you were going after with the tonalities, but more sky, and consequently less of the area where the metal tubing is, would have made it more visually effective, I think. Still, I do like

Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-10 Thread paul stenquist
On Oct 10, 2010, at 1:49 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I find even Pros in most cases clueless on the use of flash. I should have taken a picture at the outdoor venue where the three Pro photographers were shooting a stage show with bounce flash, no ceiling, no bounce cards, just bouncing

Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Apparently modern journalism is based on embarrassing public figures, and in that vein this is gold http://www.famouspictures.org/index.php?title=Bill_and_Monica_Hug A smoking gun can make a career. It's a MEH photograph, but it's an argument for not throwing anything away. When the

Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
No bounce cards, no diffusers, just flash towards the non existent ceiling; I have been a working newspaper photographer. I know the techniques and what's effective and what's just stupid. Maybe a 45° tilt would have done some good with out a bounce card or diffuser, but not one of them

Re: PESO Now that's a spud gun!

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
That is priceless, be sure to show it to all his dates when he starts bringing them home... On 10/9/2010 9:44 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9304908/IMGS01259.JPG ;-) -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy.

Re: GESO: Moose

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
You want to see Moose you should go to Massachusetts Cities, apparently... http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/10/01/police_kill_wandering_moose_in_worcester/. New England is getting more wild and yet the wildlife is getting tamer, There have been bear sightings not 5 miles from

Re: GESO: Moose

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
I think I beat you... http://www.jakeo.com/fun/poetry/mason/moose.html On 10/9/2010 3:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Oct 8, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Last time we went to Maine, we looked in vain for moose among the fall colors. This time we found some, up close and personal.

Re: Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Jens
No sexism from my side. It just so happens, I'm marride to a woman, not a man. I suppose I should have said spouse instead of wife. To me thats the same thing. Others may felle free to think otherwise. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Oct 10, 2010

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Modern western countries generally frown upon such behavior, not to mention what the wife might do if she gets wind of the scheme. On 10/10/2010 12:56 PM, Bob W wrote: Of course. Sell the K20D. Soon. Don't tell your wife. Paul you could always sell the wife:

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Which makes it easy, just put gaffers tape or black electrical tape over all the identifying markings on the front of the camera, then when the K-5 arrives do the same thing and dispose of the K-7. On 10/10/2010 9:50 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: The K5 and the K7 are essentially identical.

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
On 10/9/2010 3:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Oct 9, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Eric Weir wrote: A week from today I'll be taking off for Phoenix to join a couple of my long-time, well-known sisters and another we'll be meeting for the first time -- we only discovered her this past January; she's

Re: GESO: Moose

2010-10-10 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I found one. a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_JohnstonMoose here/a Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
The 28mm is effectively a normal lens on APS-C,. You'll probably want a wider lens, I'd go with 24mm or even 20mm, if I was only carrying one lens. I'd probably carry at least two though. A 20mm and a short telephoto, maybe 50-55mm, or 85-100mm, if you've got one. My first kit consisted of

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
The 28-200 is surprisingly compact, and much better than it's reputation, (formed on 35mm film), when coupled with a APS-C sensor. It doesn't however give you anything like a wide angle. You can however get them relatively cheaply. Unfortunately KEH doesn't have one in stock right now,

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
If you have the two touch Vivitar it is fairly sharp stopped down a bit, however it's got lots of elements and not the best multi-coating so part of that unsharpness is due to veiling flair. A good lens hood helps. The lens formula is closely related to ,(supposedly identical, in fact, to),

Re: PESO - Disruption

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
The black and white is very nicely rendered. On 10/9/2010 3:48 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Work and lots of choral music-making have kept me from posting a PESO in several weeks. I still don't have time, but what the hell. I took my camera along when I was out doing an errand this morning. I'm

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
On 10/9/2010 4:21 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Oct 9, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote: If you're shooting outdoors, it can be very handy to have a polarizer. Not that the polarizer won't work as well to bring out the clouds shooting either directly into, or directly away from the sun as it

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
On 10/9/2010 6:43 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Oct 9, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote: UV, and skylight filters are clear. They nominally block out UV light that would focus differently than visible light, and expose film our of focus, causing a slight blurriness. These days they mostly

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Oct 10, 2010, at 3:04 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: The 28mm is effectively a normal lens on APS-C,. You'll probably want a wider lens, I'd go with 24mm or even 20mm, if I was only carrying one lens. I'd probably carry at least two though. A 20mm and a short telephoto, maybe 50-55mm, or

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Oct 10, 2010, at 3:34 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: If you have the two touch Vivitar it is fairly sharp stopped down a bit, however it's got lots of elements and not the best multi-coating so part of that unsharpness is due to veiling flair. A good lens hood helps. The lens formula is

PAW40 - Boy by a lake

2010-10-10 Thread DagT
http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html Razzle 110B, 127mm, f/350, f/4.7, Yellow filter, ISO400, 4x5 Ilford HP5+ Other galleries have been updated as well, some of them with previous PAWs. Last weeks PAW is in the The Kids gallery along with its brothers (a different boy

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
On 10/10/2010 4:09 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Oct 10, 2010, at 3:34 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: If you have the two touch Vivitar it is fairly sharp stopped down a bit, however it's got lots of elements and not the best multi-coating so part of that unsharpness is due to veiling flair. A good

RE: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Bob W
If you think that you're the rankest, you obviously have not smelled certain of the people on the list. Hey, stop talking about Cotty like that... you should try standing next to me after I've been jogging... B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Bob W
stick a sack over her head - she'd never find out. Home free... Modern western countries generally frown upon such behavior, not to mention what the wife might do if she gets wind of the scheme. On 10/10/2010 12:56 PM, Bob W wrote: Of course. Sell the K20D. Soon. Don't tell your

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Eric Weir
On Oct 10, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Bob W wrote: you should try standing next to me after I've been jogging... I'll put my stinky two year-old shoes after a 90 plus run in the humidity down here in Georgia up against anybody -- shoes or whatever. I left em to dry out in the sun before allowing them

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread DagT
Den 10. okt. 2010 kl. 22.46 skrev Bob W: If you think that you're the rankest, you obviously have not smelled certain of the people on the list. Hey, stop talking about Cotty like that... you should try standing next to me after I've been jogging... I´m not impressed if I can stand

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: The Urge Thanks, Christine, for puncturing some of the latent sexism in this thread. In our household, I am the stingier of us, and it often

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread paul stenquist
On Oct 10, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: The Urge Thanks, Christine, for puncturing some of the latent sexism in this thread. In

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Latent sexism? In the sense that a hand grenade os a latent bang. ;-) And I was wondering where you were, Christine. On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks, Christine, for puncturing some of the latent sexism in this thread. In our household, I am the

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread paul stenquist
I don't think that fiscal responsibility is a trait that is exclusive to one gender or the other. On the other hand, I don'tI think that a bit of good natured banter about the wife who controls the purse strings is sexism. Men and women do have some innate differences in temperament and

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Well, the list also has a pretty severe gender bias. Christine, Tan, Ann, and who else? In a more balanced group some woman would have quickly complained about hubby and then the word spouse would have appeared instead of wife. On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:43 PM, paul stenquist

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Walter Gilbert
Reminds me of a joke: Q: How many gender feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: THAT'S NOT FUNNY!!! On 10/10/2010 5:48 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Well, the list also has a pretty severe gender bias. Christine, Tan, Ann, and who else? In a more balanced group some woman

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Jeffery Smith
Yeah, I didn't think I was being sexist with my statements. The fact is that, when people are married, their money is THEIR money, not his money. My wife has no interest whatsoever in photography, and when I acquire a piece of equipment, she understands that it is just my hobby. Jeffery On

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Eric, No worries. Pictures of parents who were once young and vital can be moving for so many reasons. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Here's the link to the photos that go with my story that Paul Sorenson put up on the web for me. As

Re: PESO - Disruption

2010-10-10 Thread Rick Womer
How? --- On Sun, 10/10/10, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: BW is better. I would probably crop it differently. --Sasha On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: BW for me, Rick. Boris On 10/9/2010 9:48 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Work and

Re: peso - just peso

2010-10-10 Thread Rick Womer
Sasha, it is very sharp and very nicely rendered, but to me there seems to be too much conflicting geometry. The assembly at the bottom leads the eye up and to the left, until it is stopped by the horizontal line; then the downspout leads one up and to the right. You might try cropping out

Re: PESO - Disruption

2010-10-10 Thread Sasha Sobol
Do not know, may I will go for diagonal lines? --S On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: How? --- On Sun, 10/10/10, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: BW is better. I would probably crop it differently. --Sasha On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Boris

Peso: On Watch

2010-10-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
I found some pics I thought I had lost: http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=seagull.jpg DS, FA 20-35 -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

645D effect?

2010-10-10 Thread Mark Roberts
I'm just getting around to listing my last two Pentax 645 lenses on eBay. I thought I'd look around to see what 645 lenses are going for these days and there seems to be almost none listed. Quite different from how things earlier this year when I last looked. I can't believe that a lot of people

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Doug Brewer
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: A week from today I'll be taking off for Phoenix... I haven't been doing much shooting, but I imagine I'll be shooting a fair bit on this trip. Following advice given by several here earlier, I'm

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Of course, post lots of your pics when you get back so we can criticize the hell out of them. ;-) On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: A week from today I'll be

Re: Novice again

2010-10-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Doug Brewer wrote: I'll agree with Godders here. Of course, I =would=, being a guy for whom a trip with one or two focal lengths is perfectly fine. I'm just finishing up a photo book of stuff shot on a trip a few years ago on which I carried only two primes with me each day. Go, have a good

Re: PESO - Disruption

2010-10-10 Thread Rick Womer
Just tried that; some of the converging lines become vertical, and too much of the frame gets cropped out. Thanks for commenting, though. Rick --- On Sun, 10/10/10, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: Do not know, may I will go for diagonal lines? --S On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:22 PM,

Re: PESO - Disruption

2010-10-10 Thread Sasha Sobol
Rick, I doubt that would work in post processing. May be at shoot time? --S On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Just tried that; some of the converging lines become vertical, and too much of the frame gets cropped out.  Thanks for commenting, though. Rick

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread paul stenquist
On Oct 10, 2010, at 6:48 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Well, the list also has a pretty severe gender bias. Christine, Tan, Ann, and who else? In a more balanced group some woman would have quickly complained about hubby and then the word spouse would have appeared instead of wife. True.

Re: 645D effect?

2010-10-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Maybe they are hoping that the value of 645 lenses will go up? I would imagine the pros will buy what they need and the affluent enthusiasts will buy what they want. On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: I'm just getting around to listing my last two Pentax

Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
About a month about I was taking pictures at a party with the K7 and the 360 flash. I had it pointing straight up for some reason. I forgot about it (I don't us a flash too often). I turn the camera sideways for a vertical shot of a kid and fire the flash point blank in his sister's face. She

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:43 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I don't think that fiscal responsibility is a trait that is exclusive to one gender or the other. No, certainly not. Let's all just admit the real truth here: deep inside every Pentaxian there lies the heart of a

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Maybe, then again maybe not... http://www.miller-mccune.com/culture-society/menstruation-and-the-mall-23630/ On 10/10/2010 6:43 PM, paul stenquist wrote: I don't think that fiscal responsibility is a trait that is exclusive to one gender or the other. On the other hand, I don'tI think that

Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Did you give her a credit? On 10/10/2010 10:31 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: About a month about I was taking pictures at a party with the K7 and the 360 flash. I had it pointing straight up for some reason. I forgot about it (I don't us a flash too often). I turn the camera sideways for a

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Well, the list also has a pretty severe gender bias.  Christine, Tan, Ann, and who else?  In a more balanced group some woman would have quickly complained about hubby and then the word spouse would have appeared

Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Oh, I will when her eyes start working again. On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:40 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:  Did you give her a credit? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

I had an Ann sighting in Chicago Today :-)

2010-10-10 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Everyone: Had a nice lunch with Ann today as she's finishing out her trip to Chicago. Lunch came complete with good food and drink and lively conversation and giggles. I dropped her off near the State and Division area as she wanted to photograph some buildings from her mother's

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread paul stenquist
On Oct 10, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Well, the list also has a pretty severe gender bias. Christine, Tan, Ann, and who else? In a more balanced group some woman would have quickly complained about

Re: I had an Ann sighting in Chicago Today :-)

2010-10-10 Thread drd1135
That's good to hear. Thanks Christine. -Original Message- From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 22:01:16 To: pdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: I had an Ann sighting in Chicago Today :-)

Re: The Urge

2010-10-10 Thread drd1135
Darn. I meant to put Christine(s). I have to start proof reading. -Original Message- From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 22:48:42 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net

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