received for Christmas so I figured that + the rebate made buying a
> > new lens
> > easier ;)
> >
> > CW
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Pdml@pdml.net"
> > Sent: Friday
r Christmas so I figured that + the rebate made buying a
> new lens
> easier ;)
>
> CW
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pdml@pdml.net"
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 6:28 PM
> Subject: NO FS
February 02, 2007 6:28 PM
Subject: NO FS this Friday?
> Man, the lens pickens are SLIM... There's like three lenses total at KEH,
> Ebay looks to have been picked over like last week's kill, and nothing at
> all offered on the PDML...
> How's a guy supposed to enable h
> I mean really, how the hell are you supposed to respond to childish
> gibberish like that?
Just wait
Kenneth Waller
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From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
>
> - Original Message -
>
thank god, I have had it with you.
jco
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As I said, why argue with an idiot? Attempt
09, 2007 12:55 PM
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As I told you before, I don't care what you say.
Why "argue posts" (... another little editing error? ...) with an idiot?
G
On Feb 9, 2007, at 9:39 AM, whoopee cushion wrote:
> [something nons
As I said, why argue with an idiot? Attempt rational discussion?
laughable notion.
"JCO Filter" switched back on. Bye bye.
G
On Feb 9, 2007, at 10:11 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> [more useless drivel]
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Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
> As I told you before, I don't care what you say.
> Why "argue posts" (... another little editing error? ...) with an idiot?
Apparently my theory that Anna Nicole Smith and
As I told you before, I don't care what you say.
Why "argue posts" (... another little editing error? ...) with an idiot?
G
On Feb 9, 2007, at 9:39 AM, whoopee cushion wrote:
> [something nonsensical]
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It seems most of what you post is "a simple editing error". The rest
is abject stupidity.
G
On Feb 9, 2007, at 8:17 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> its a simple editing error, whats childish about that?
> Still waiting for your answer WR,. ( sh
It seems most of what you post is "a simple editing error". The rest
is abject stupidity.
G
On Feb 9, 2007, at 8:17 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> its a simple editing error, whats childish about that?
> Still waiting for your answer WR,. ( should have read are you OR
> are you
> not?)
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>
>>
>> From: "J. C. O'Sealion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> WELL THEN, are you are are you not saying
>
wilson
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>
> From: "J. C. O'Sealion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> WELL THEN, are you are are you not saying
Mark!
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>
> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/02/09 Fri PM 03:11:38 GMT
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>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "mike wilson"
> Subject:
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>
>>
>> From: "J. C. O'Sealion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> WELL THEN, are you are are you not saying
>
I mean really, how the hell are you supposed
>
> From: "J. C. O'Sealion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> WELL THEN, are you are are you not saying
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> From: "K.Takeshita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Viewing from an armchair, its not at all consistent.
> What IS consistent is the common theme of "I am always superior to you"
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You're right, John. I now use TAv 75% of the time. It's a terrific feature.
Paul
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From: John Francis
>
> Don't forget TAv mode - an amazingly useful innovation.
-
I find myself using TAv mode a lot whenever I have a long lens on the
enses for not perfoming
>>> well on APS, blame pentax for the lack of a FF DSLR body
>>> that would allow them to outperform the best DA lenses.
>>>
>>> jco
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:38 PM
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From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
>
> The 45mm is a
> very
> wide angle on a LARGER format than the hassy you
The smiley was there for a purpose.
Thanks for making my point Ken.
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of
> Paul Stenquist
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 6:30 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
>
>
> In TAv exposure mode, you set your f stop and shutter speed. You then
> specify a
nt: 9. februar 2007 00:20
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Wait a minute! Who you callin' a ...
Tim Øsleby wrote:
> I wasn't referring to you personally. I was referring to your dick ;-)
>
>
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>
>
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From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
>
> The 45mm is a
> very
> wide angle on a LARGER format than the hassy you fool.
> Anyone with half a brain would not try to compare a
> 45mm lens on a LARGER format with
You just cant handle the truth I guess
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On Feb 8, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Whoopee
uary 08, 2007 5:07 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
>
>
>
> It's one of those things that I wasn't particularly impressed by
> when I
> first saw the write-up on the camera. But once you've used it you
> realise jus
lliam Robb
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> And furthermore, your comments that PENTAX medimum
> format lenses &qu
You are busted.
jco
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---
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of
> > John Francis
> > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 5:07 PM
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
> >
> >
> >
> > It's one o
On Feb 8, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Whoopee Cushion wrote:
> How many times do I have to post it? ...
Zero. I for one would be happy if you didn't post at all.
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> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
>
>
>
> It's one of those things that I wasn't particularly impressed by
> when I
> first saw the write-up on the camera. But once you've used it you
> realise just how conv
On 2/08/07 6:05 PM, "P. J. Alling", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or maybe they could spec. a sensor like the Kodak sensor optimized for
> corner and edge light capture that Leica is using in the M8 without the
> mistake they made in cover plate/filter stage which is causing so much
> fun... (It i
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From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
> And furthermore, your comments that PENTAX medimum
> format lenses "resolve quite a bit lower than average"
> is horseshit and it only further supports my point
> that
TECTED] On Behalf Of Cory
> Papenfuss
> Sent: 8. februar 2007 20:15
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
>
>
>> What I don't understand is why people are so aggressively defending their
>> position in this debate. It is just to
08, 2007 4:09 PM
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Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
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From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
--
> What WR has just posted below is very true, BUT IT CONTRADICTS his
> earlier strong opposite position in another long
- Original Message -
From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
> WELL THEN, are you are are you not saying that the
> format a lens is designed for ( film or sensor size ) does or does
> not affect affect the maximum lens performance possible
&
; well on APS, blame pentax for the lack of a FF DSLR body
>> that would allow them to outperform the best DA lenses.
>>
>> jco
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Godfrey DiGiorgi
&g
Rob's come to expect everthing to look smeared since he became a
father.
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jack Davis
>
> Interesting. The A-20 f/2.8 wide edges actually had a smeared look
> about them.
>
> Jack
>
> ---
what is the Tav exposure mode( how does it operate)?
jco
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It's one of those things t
Lack of sleep or extreme pride will do it too you. I speak from
experience.
Jack
--- Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rob's come to expect everthing to look smeared since he became a
> father.
>
> --
> Bob
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE
point
jco
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Subject: RE: NO
t to make a list of
> these observations for reference.
>
> jco
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of
> Jack Davis
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:28 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: RE: NO
It's one of those things that I wasn't particularly impressed by
when I first saw the write-up on the camera. But once you've used
it you realise just how convenient it is.
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:34:47PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You're right, John. I now use TAv 75% of the time. It'
Interesting. The A-20 f/2.8 wide edges actually had a smeared look
about them.
Jack
--- Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 09/02/07, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My A-20mm f/2.8 performed extremely poorly at the wide edges. So
> > distorted and SOFT that I knew I'
gt; and were they focussed on the same spot in the image?
>
>
> Tom C.
>
>
> >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?- IMPORTANT INFORMATION
I agree.
On Feb 8, 2007, at 1:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You're right, John. I now use TAv 75% of the time. It's a terrific
> feature.
> Paul
> -- Original message --
> From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:19:37AM -0800, God
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Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
--
> What WR has just posted below is very true, BUT IT CONTRADICTS
> his earlier strong opposite position in another long thread where I
> stated that
> in general, 35mm lenses are sh
On 09/02/07, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My A-20mm f/2.8 performed extremely poorly at the wide edges. So
> distorted and SOFT that I knew I'd never mount it on the K10D again.
> Immediately sold it on eBay ($440) to one who shoots only film.
> DA 16~45 f/4 edge performance blew it away
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>
>My A-20mm f/2.8 performed extremely poorly at the wide edges. So
>distorted and SOFT that I knew
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My A-20mm f/2.8 performed extremely poorly at the wide edges. So
distorted and SOFT that I knew I'd never mount it on the K10D again.
Immediately sold it on eBay ($440) to one who shoots only film.
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> Of
> William Robb
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> Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cory Papenfuss"
> Subject: Re: NO FS thi
>Bang on!
>Tom, you are one of the most rational people in this list! I'm impressed.
>Of course most of people here are rational, too :-).
>
>Ken
>
I'm having a relatively good day. :-)
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On 2/08/07 2:39 PM, "Tom C", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> ...but to say these OLD lenses are
>>> not as good as DA lenses is really not true. They are
>>> DIFFERENT, not better or worse...
>
> I can agree with this. It very much depends on shooting conditions,
> application, aperture, etc. Are
: NO FS this Friday?
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From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
> I'm curious if there are any lens test sites that compare chromatic
> aberration and other factors of DA lenses with their closest legacy
> equivalent. I haven't
On 2/08/07 2:41 PM, "William Robb", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What IS consistent is the common theme of "I am always superior to you" :-).
>
> We use Pentax, we are superior.
I of course emphatically have to agree with that!
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>>
> Actually, what I took exception to was the implication that the
> additional features of newer lenses inherently result higher quality
al Message-
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> All those features mentioned below by Godrey DiGiorgi
> will not make ANY DA/APS lens/format perf
On 2/08/07 2:18 PM, "Tom C", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It makes a weird sort of marketing sense,
> but I'd like to see numbers and photos showing exactly how the optics of the
> newer lenses are *demonstrably* better than the legacy lenses, especially
> considering the image circle from a legac
Thats what I have already posted about a dozen times!
jco
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-- Original
gt;
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Godfrey DiGiorgi
> Sent: 8. februar 2007 18:20
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
>
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From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
> I'm curious if there are any lens test sites that compare chromatic
> aberration and other factors of DA lenses with their closest legacy
> equivalent. I haven't looked but I'd be
> >
> > If you weren't lazy you'd be toting a ten pound Canon.
>
>Doesn't a 10 pound 6x7 count for anything around here?
>
>William Robb
>
That must have been after you started whimping out then? ;-)
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Loveless"
> Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
>
> >
> > If you weren't lazy you'd be toting a ten pound Canon.
>
> Doesn't a 10 pound 6
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Quoting "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Screw you, I know more about what I was talking
> about and what I posted than you do.
Nice that you think so.
Dag, Godfrey and myself all seem to have experienced so
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From: Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> Actually, what I took exception to was the implication that the
> additional features of newer lenses inherently result higher quality
> photographs than are possible with older lenses.
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From: "Cory Papenfuss"
Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
>>
> Actually, what I took exception to was the implication that the
> additional features of newer lenses inherently result higher quality
> photographs than are possible with ol
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From: "K.Takeshita"
Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
What IS consistent is the common theme of "I am always superior to you" :-).
We use Pentax, we are superior.
WW
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JCO wrote:
> > ...but to say these OLD lenses are
> > not as good as DA lenses is really not true. They are
> > DIFFERENT, not better or worse...
I can agree with this. It very much depends on shooting conditions,
application, aperture, etc. Are the DA lenses *more* demonstrably
different/bett
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From: "Scott Loveless"
Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
>
> If you weren't lazy you'd be toting a ten pound Canon.
Doesn't a 10 pound 6x7 count for anything around here?
William Robb
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Godfrey DiGiorgi
> Sent: 8. februar 2007 18:20
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
>
>>>> All
On 2/08/07 2:07 PM, "Tim Øsleby", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I don't understand is why people are so aggressively defending their
> position in this debate. It is just tools ;-)
Isn't it? :-).
One day, they say oh it's just a tool and another day, excluding all but
their own equipment and
gt;
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Godfrey DiGiorgi
> Sent: 8. februar 2007 18:20
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
>
Hey! I didn't know you were a Hokie!
Bill
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>>
>> My objective opi
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Quoting Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
>
> Composition trumps all. :-)
>
At least is is actually completely separate from equ
>There was a hint that because I am finding the options that lenses designed
>to
>complement my camera give me are desirable, that i am somehow a lazy
>photographer. I take umbrage with that.
>
>William Robb
>
Understood.
I'm curious if there are any lens test sites that compare chromatic
aberr
> All those features mentioned below by Godrey DiGiorgi
> will not make ANY DA/APS lens/format perform as well as a really good
> FF pentax Lens ( even some of the SMCT screwmounts over
> 30 years old ) on a good FF camera in terms of sheer
> image quality. This is what I have been talking about
>
APS body which is like "zooming in" on the flaws.
jco
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Just a small comment:
My A*135
lain Norwegian)
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Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
>>> All of my comments ma
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Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
--
So, without consideration of operator error, what exactly does a
new lens' feature set do to improve the resultant picture quality? The
improved contrast of having autofocus? The increase of sharpness due to
not having an auto-ape
> So, without consideration of operator error, what exactly does a
> new lens' feature set do to improve the resultant picture quality? The
> improved contrast of having autofocus? The increase of sharpness due to
> not having an auto-aperture? Bullshit.
>
> If you're too damn lazy t
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:20 PM
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Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
>>> All of my comments made in this thread regarding
>>> APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were optical quality related
>>&
>>
>> My objective opinion is that this thread is degenerating into a war of harsh
>> words, when you both, in reality, believe exactly the same thing.
>>
>
> There was a hint that because I am finding the options that lenses designed to
> complement my camera give me are desirable, that i am someh
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From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
> If I had to buy all new lenses for any DSLR,
> I wouldnt b
> If you want to buy a camera and take advantage of half of what you
> paid for by using old lenses on it, that's your choice. No question
> that you can do some nice work if you know what you're doing.
>
It's a cost/benefit ratio for me. I'm personally OK with having a
little more manual
You're right, John. I now use TAv 75% of the time. It's a terrific feature.
Paul
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> On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:19:37AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> >
> > But calling someone who wants to take advantag
Quoting "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Screw you, I know more about what I was talking
> about and what I posted than you do.
Nice that you think so.
Dag, Godfrey and myself all seem to have experienced something that disagrees
with you regarding film optimized lenses though.
Pentax and
On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There was a hint that because I am finding the options that lenses designed to
> complement my camera give me are desirable, that i am somehow a lazy
> photographer. I take umbrage with that.
If you weren't lazy you'd be toting a ten pound
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William Robb
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:56 AM
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Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
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From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: NO
Quoting Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
>
> Composition trumps all. :-)
>
At least is is actually completely separate from equipment.
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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>If you only consider one parameter when you are making an equipment
>purchase you
>are a fool.
Did anyone say that?
>Glass quality is certainly the most important part of a lens buying
>decision,
>but it isn't the only part.
>In context, a couple of people on list have
Quoting Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Bill, I respectfully disagree with you here. Your achievements have nothing
> to do with whether someone else knows what they're talking about.
True, but they at least give my opinions some credibility
>
> My objective opinion is that this thread is degener
> jco
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of
> Godfrey DiGiorgi
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:02 PM
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> Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2007, at 4:3
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:19:37AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
> But calling someone who wants to take advantage of pattern evaluative
> metering, linked AE and focus point, MTF prioritized exposure
> metering, automatic recognition of lens focal length for image
> stabilization, improv
>
>If you only consider one parameter when you are making an equipment
>purchase you
>are a fool.
>Glass quality is certainly the most important part of a lens buying
>decision,
>but it isn't the only part.
>In context, a couple of people on list have noted that the newer lenses do
>a
>better jo
--
So, without consideration of operator error, what exactly does a
new lens' feature set do to improve the resultant picture quality? The
improved contrast of having autofocus? The increase of sharpness due to
not having an auto-aperture? Bullshit.
If you're too damn lazy to
On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
>>> All of my comments made in this thread regarding
>>> APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were optical quality related
>>> to format (sensor) size, not feature set
>>> issues. That is another unrelated matter altogether.
>>
>> Bullshit. It's part and
>From: Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:52:09 -0500 (EST)
>
> > All of my comments made in this thread regarding
> > APS and FF l
> All of my comments made in this thread regarding
> APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were optical quality related
> to format (sensor) size, not feature set
> issues. That is another unrelated matter altogether.
>
> Bullshit. It's part and parcel of what the lens can do.
>
> William Robb
>
So,
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From: "Cory Papenfuss"
Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
> For the hobbyist, it's a lot harder to justify big money on lenses
> that produce images at best marginally better than older, cheaper ones
> (provided they're willing to forg
- Original Message -
From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
All of my comments made in this thread regarding
APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were optical quality related
to format (sensor) size, not feature set
issues. That is another unrelated ma
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