On 1/22/2010 12:29 AM, David Mann wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 3:08 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
Here in the States, the standard response seems to be buying a gun, barging
into the exhibition and killing everyone in sight.
I think the British way works better.
What, a knife instead of a
On 1/22/2010 1:29 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 07:15:10AM -0600, Bob Sullivan wrote:
My flash suggestion was tongue-in-cheek and needs a smiley.
You would need a really big flash to freeze the stars in the sky like that. ;-)
Regards, Bob S.
And synchronisation is
On 1/21/2010 7:57 PM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Ken Waller
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
It definitely is for me given the rarity of wild wolves and the
knowledge that dogs generally are domesticated and can be trained to
repsond
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
And now that you know that it is a domesticated wolf.
William Robb
That kind of makes it dog then...
Your canoe is in the mail.
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On 1/21/2010 8:29 AM, William Robb wrote:
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Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't comply with the
competition rules.
Is it any more brillaint than this?
http
Bob W wrote:
Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me.
First the pick
a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on not
much evidence.
This is Mark Carwardine, one of the 'wankers':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1vfsHYiKY
It's not him that's wanking. That has to be
On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:11 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: paul stenquist
On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Look closely, he just used a big flash in the photo without star
trails. :-) Regards, Bob S.
I don't think he used a flash or any artificial light. The light
extends
My flash suggestion was tongue-in-cheek and needs a smiley.
You would need a really big flash to freeze the stars in the sky like that. ;-)
Regards, Bob S.
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:39 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:11 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
From:
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From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
I don't think he used a flash or any artificial light. The light extends
too far into the background, and it's too uniform. However, it could be a
combination of two exposures. One shot
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 07:15:10AM -0600, Bob Sullivan wrote:
My flash suggestion was tongue-in-cheek and needs a smiley.
You would need a really big flash to freeze the stars in the sky like that.
;-)
Regards, Bob S.
And synchronisation is a real problem.
You need to set the flash off eons
From: Ken Waller
You could spend weeks/months 'becomming familiar with the wolf's habits',
assuming you first located the wolf (ves)
Set up camera pointing at the fence section, set up an IR trigger to
take a picture when the wolf broke the light beam, go have a beer and
come back later
Do you have any idea how much effort time is required to
even see a wolf
in the wild ? I do.
If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be
fantastic. To be there
when not only a wolf appeared, but leaped over an obsticle
and you were set
up to capture it would truly be a
You know, the problem I have with it isn't that they decided
it was staged; it's that they didn't decide that until AFTER
they had already awarded it the first prize.
Every reason cited for rejecting it after the fact should
have been apparent before it won.
Ok, so he (maybe) didn't
Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me. First
the pick a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on
not much evidence.
This is Mark Carwardine, one of the 'wankers':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1vfsHYiKY
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2010/1/21 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me. First
the pick a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on
not much evidence.
This is Mark Carwardine, one of the 'wankers':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1vfsHYiKY
We're all wankers.
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From: Bob W
Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't comply with the
competition rules.
Is it any more brillaint than this?
http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg
William Robb
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it any more brillaint than this?
http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg
While I know how difficult that wolf photo would have been to take
(even if it was staged) it doesn't have ~near~ the excitement and
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me. First
the pick a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on
not much evidence.
This is Mark Carwardine, one of the 'wankers':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1vfsHYiKY
It's not
From: Ken Waller
Do you have any idea how much effort time is required to even see a wolf
in the wild ? I do.
If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be fantastic. To be there
when not only a wolf appeared, but leaped over an obsticle and you were set
up to capture it would truly be
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From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it any more brillaint than this?
http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg
While I know how difficult
Love the tongue. Did you borrow a camera for this. Pentax would
never focus fast enough.
Regards, Bob S.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:29 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
- Original Message - From: Bob W
Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
I think the wolf photo
From: Bob W
Do you have any idea how much effort time is required to
even see a wolf
in the wild ? I do.
If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be
fantastic. To be there
when not only a wolf appeared, but leaped over an obsticle
and you were set
up to capture it would
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From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
Love the tongue. Did you borrow a camera for this. Pentax would
never focus fast enough.
Not one of my shots, but you are right, Pentax wouldn't have AF'd fast
enough for that.
The EXIF
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From: John Sessoms
Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
I think the British way works better.
We might civilize you lot yet.
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From: Bob W
Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me. First
the pick a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on
not much evidence.
This is Mark Carwardine, one of the 'wankers':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1vfsHYiKY
Yeah ... like that's NOT staged!
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Bob W wrote:
The story the photographer gave, as I recall from when I first saw the
photo, is that this was routine behaviour of the wolf which he had witnessed
many times. Accordingly he set up specially for it. He didn't just happen to
be walking by with all his gear and suddenly see a wolf
William Robb wrote:
I hate to pooh pooh the wolf photo, but if the guy really had become
familiar with said wolf's habits, it really would have been a fairly
simple shot to take:
Set up camera pointing at the fence section, set up an IR trigger to
take a picture when the wolf broke the light
From: William Robb
I hate to pooh pooh the wolf photo, but if the guy really had become
familiar with said wolf's habits, it really would have been a fairly simple
shot to take:
Set up camera pointing at the fence section, set up an IR trigger to take a
picture when the wolf broke the light
John Sessoms wrote:
From: Ken Waller
Do you have any idea how much effort time is required to even see a
wolf in the wild ? I do.
If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be fantastic. To be
there when not only a wolf appeared, but leaped over an obsticle and
you were set up to
2010/1/21 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
- Original Message - From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it any more brillaint than this?
http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying
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From: Christian
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
And that's his account of how he did it. Some experts have suggested
that a wild wolf, skulking around, would not have jumped the fence but
would have climbed through it.
I expect
Rob Studdert wrote:
On 21/01/2010, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Do you have any idea how much effort time is required to even see a wolf
in the wild ? I do.
If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be fantastic. To be there
when not only a wolf appeared, but leaped
In a message dated 1/20/2010 9:26:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
kwal...@peoplepc.com writes:
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
Do you have any idea how much effort time is required to even see a wolf
in the wild ? I do.
If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:29:15 -0600, you wrote:
From: Bob W
I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't comply with the
competition rules.
Is it any more brillaint than this?
http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg
That *is* brilliant! They should have Photoshopped in
The evidence at
http://www.suomenluonto.fi/bbcs-nature-photo-competition-judge-admits-winner-photo-investigated-due-to-fraud-allegations
seems pretty convincing that the location of the shot was the Cañada
Real Center zoological park near Madrid. The stone wall could easily
have been modified but
- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
The time I went I found the children's winners included a suprising
number of 6-year-olds shooting with a Nikon F5 and 600mm f/4.0.
Well, to be fair, the kid probably pushed the shutter
The story the photographer gave, as I recall from when I
first saw the
photo, is that this was routine behaviour of the wolf which he had
witnessed many times. Accordingly he set up specially for it. He
didn't just happen to be walking by with all his gear and
suddenly see a wolf
Sadly, it isn't one of mine.
It is a terrific photo though.
I hate to pooh pooh the wolf photo, but if the guy really had become
familiar with said wolf's habits, it really would have been a
fairly simple
shot to take:
Set up camera pointing at the fence section, set up an IR
trigger
I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't
comply with the
competition rules.
Is it any more brillaint than this?
http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg
William Robb
Yes.
But that's still a great photo.
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From: Bob W
Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
The difficulty or ease of taking the photo is not what they judge things
on
in that competition.
You keep saying this.
I haven't seen a competition yet that judges the photos based on some
- Original Message -
From: Bob W
Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
Is it any more brillaint than this?
http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg
William Robb
Yes.
But that's still a great photo.
Would it be any more brillaint than any other picture
The evidence at
http://www.suomenluonto.fi/bbcs-nature-photo-competition-judge
-admits-winner-photo-investigated-due-to-fraud-allegations
seems pretty convincing that the location of the shot was the
Cañada Real Center zoological park near Madrid. The stone
wall could easily have been
Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me.
First the pick
a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on not
much evidence.
This is Mark Carwardine, one of the 'wankers':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1vfsHYiKY
It's not him that's wanking. That has to be
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:22:29 -, you wrote:
As far as the wolf photo is concerned, since photos of captive animals are
allowed in the competition he could have won a prize anyway if he'd been
open about it. It really is a shame that he wasn't.
I thought captive animals were prohibited? That's
Is it any more brillaint than this?
http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg
William Robb
Yes.
But that's still a great photo.
Would it be any more brillaint than any other picture of a
dog going over a
jump, perhaps at an agility trial?
Is it the fact that
The difficulty or ease of taking the photo is not what they
judge things
on
in that competition.
You keep saying this.
I haven't seen a competition yet that judges the photos based on some
Hurculean effort on the part of the photographer, so I'm not
really certain
of what
As far as the wolf photo is concerned, since photos of
captive animals
are allowed in the competition he could have won a prize
anyway if he'd
been open about it. It really is a shame that he wasn't.
I thought captive animals were prohibited? That's how I read
the rules. (It's
From: Mark Roberts
The evidence at
http://www.suomenluonto.fi/bbcs-nature-photo-competition-judge-admits-winner-photo-investigated-due-to-fraud-allegations
seems pretty convincing that the location of the shot was the Ca?ada
Real Center zoological park near Madrid. The stone wall could easily
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:42:32 -, you wrote:
As far as the wolf photo is concerned, since photos of
captive animals
are allowed in the competition he could have won a prize
anyway if he'd
been open about it. It really is a shame that he wasn't.
I thought captive animals were
From: Mark Roberts
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:22:29 -, you wrote:
As far as the wolf photo is concerned, since photos of captive animals are
allowed in the competition he could have won a prize anyway if he'd been
open about it. It really is a shame that he wasn't.
I thought captive animals
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
- Original Message - From: Bob W
Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't comply with the
competition rules.
Is it any more brillaint than
I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't
comply with
the competition rules.
Is it any more brillaint than this?
http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg
William Robb
I managed to capture a wolf attack ;-)
As far as the wolf photo is concerned, since photos of
captive animals
are allowed in the competition he could have won a prize
anyway if he'd
been open about it. It really is a shame that he wasn't.
I thought captive animals were prohibited? That's how I read the
rules. (It's
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:29 -0600, William Robb war...@gmail.com
wrote:
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From: Bob W
Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't comply with the
competition rules.
Is it any more brillaint
wendy beard wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
- Original Message - From: Bob W
Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
I think the wolf photo is brilliant, even if it doesn't comply with the
competition rules
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:22 -0500, Christian christ...@skofteland.net
wrote:
The issue I have with this photographer is that he used a
trained, captive animal (if the allegations are true; and he is not
denying them in all accounts I've read he is 'unavailable for comment').
According to
On 21/1/10, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
We're all wankers. Some more than others.
I'll buy that !
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The timing of his disqualification makes me think the judges missed it and
it was pointed out to them or the organization after the fact.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: William Robb war...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
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From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8
Good crisp shots, Wendy! Timing, flawless.
Jack
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Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:52 PM
On Thu
From: wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com
I managed to capture a wolf attack ;-)
http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/93652625
He likes to play football too
http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/121289483
and frisbee
http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/106555213
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From: William Robb war...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
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From: Bob W
Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
Is it any more brillaint than
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:52 PM, wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com wrote:
I managed to capture a wolf attack ;-)
http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/93652625
He likes to play football too
http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/121289483
and frisbee
Here's a little controversy that popped up on the DP Review Pentax
forum a few weeks back regarding the Pentax Photo Gallery. Two photos
from the same photographer:
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/home#section=ARTISTsubSection=2245441subSubSection=3826178language=EN
EXIF says the exposure time
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:40:48 -0500
Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
Is it any more brillaint than this?
http://www.akamairottweilers.ca/flying%20kratos.jpg
That *is* brilliant! They should have Photoshopped in a trractor beam
from a UFO in the upper left-hand corner...
broken
Mark - um I think the links are reversed :-)
ann
Mark Roberts wrote:
Here's a little controversy that popped up on the DP Review Pentax
forum a few weeks back regarding the Pentax Photo Gallery. Two photos
from the same photographer:
ann sanfedele wrote:
Mark - um I think the links are reversed :-)
Looks that way. But I'm sure everyone here is smart enough to figure
it out anyway.
Mark Roberts wrote:
Here's a little controversy that popped up on the DP Review Pentax
forum a few weeks back regarding the Pentax Photo
, 2010 6:21 PM
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Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: William Robb war...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
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From: Bob W
- Original Message -
From: Ken Waller
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
You could spend weeks/months 'becomming familiar with the wolf's habits',
assuming you first located the wolf (ves)
Set up camera pointing at the fence section, set up an IR trigger to take
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From: Bob W
Subject: RE: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
I've only said it once. I said it because in other posts in this thread
other people have pointed out that a shot should not get extra merit for
being difficult to take. In one of your previous posts
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From: Ken Waller
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
It definitely is for me given the rarity of wild wolves and the knowledge
that dogs generally are domesticated and can be trained to repsond to
their masters wishes.
And now that you know
Look closely, he just used a big flash in the photo without star trails. :-)
Regards, Bob S.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
Here's a little controversy that popped up on the DP Review Pentax
forum a few weeks back regarding the Pentax Photo Gallery.
On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Look closely, he just used a big flash in the photo without star trails. :-)
Regards, Bob S.
I don't think he used a flash or any artificial light. The light extends too
far into the background, and it's too uniform. However, it could be
From: Mark Roberts
ann sanfedele wrote:
Mark - um I think the links are reversed :-)
Looks that way. But I'm sure everyone here is smart enough to figure
it out anyway.
Mark Roberts wrote:
Here's a little controversy that popped up on the DP Review Pentax
forum a few weeks back
From: paul stenquist
On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Look closely, he just used a big flash in the photo without star
trails. :-) Regards, Bob S.
I don't think he used a flash or any artificial light. The light
extends too far into the background, and it's too uniform.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: William Robb war...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
- Original Message -
From: Ken Waller
Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
You could spend weeks/months
On Jan 22, 2010, at 3:08 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
Here in the States, the standard response seems to be buying a gun, barging
into the exhibition and killing everyone in sight.
I think the British way works better.
What, a knife instead of a gun?
Dave (in my city the modus operandi seems
Mark Roberts wrote:
ann sanfedele wrote:
Mark - um I think the links are reversed :-)
Looks that way. But I'm sure everyone here is smart enough to figure
it out anyway.
ya think?
a
Mark Roberts wrote:
Here's a little controversy that popped up on the DP Review
Stripped of the award he won, that is:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm
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Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
Stripped of the award he won, that is:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm
While in Sydney I saw the exhibition and the photo in question at the
Australian Museum. Next to this photo was a news article about the
controversy and questions about
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:28 -0500, Christian christ...@skofteland.net
wrote:
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
Stripped of the award he won, that is:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm
While in Sydney I saw the exhibition and the photo in question at the
Australian Museum.
From: Christian
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
Stripped of the award he won, that is:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm
While in Sydney I saw the exhibition and the photo in question at the
Australian Museum. Next to this photo was a news article about the
controversy
On 20/1/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
Stripped of the award he won, that is:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm
Oops, sorry posted before I saw this :)
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From: Christian
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
Stripped of the award he won, that is:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
I agree but it is THEIR contest.
Honestly?
I don't think it's that great a photo even if it's not staged. Yeah,
I guess catching a wild wolf doing that at night would be pretty
amazing, but that isn't enough to make it a
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Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
This doesn't look good on anybody involved.
It's not even a very good Malinois.
(Sorry Wendy, It's an old joke)
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From: frank theriault
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
I agree but it is THEIR contest.
Honestly?
I don't think it's that great a photo even if it's not staged. Yeah,
I guess catching a wild wolf doing that at night would be pretty
amazing, but that
Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
I agree but it is THEIR contest.
Honestly?
I
On 21/01/2010, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Do you have any idea how much effort time is required to even see a wolf
in the wild ? I do.
If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be fantastic. To be there
when not only a wolf appeared, but leaped over an obsticle and you
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