Re: Trolls

2004-07-09 Thread Robert Woerner
Me too. It's too hard to keep adding to my killfile. - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Trolls > Hi! > > > It doesn't work. Trol

Re: Trolls

2004-07-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! It doesn't work. Trolls are trolls, and always will be. The only remedy is to STOP RESPONDING TO THEM.I hereby resolve to do so. Please join me, everyone. It makes two of us, at least two . Boris

Re: Trolls & how-to

2004-06-14 Thread Antonio Aparicio
mply rude or thoughtless in mis-naming Frantisek. regards, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Trolls & how-to

2004-06-14 Thread Antonio Aparicio
" -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls & how-to Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:09:31 -0400 Antonio, If you had been around longer you would know how wrong you are. There's no old boy

Re: Trolls & how-to

2004-06-14 Thread Frits Wüthrich
On Monday 14 June 2004 04:32, frank theriault wrote: FJW> Those few that have ruffled feathers from the outset tend to blame "the FJW> list" and not look at their own behaviour as being the problem. FJW> FJW> cheers, FJW> frank My son also blames everything on other people as well. But he is sti

Re: Trolls & how-to

2004-06-13 Thread Anthony Farr
- Original Message - From: "Frantisek Vlcek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Trolls & how-to (snip) > > 2) complain to his ISP. You can use WHOIS to find out all sort of > things about him. By this form of abuse, he is certainly breaching > both his ISP and mailservice useragreements, by a

RE: Trolls & how-to

2004-06-13 Thread TMP
freakin' heck! some people have too much time on their hands... get a life man... tan. -Original Message- From: That Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 14 June 2004 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Trolls & how-to Of course it was a rude, thoughtless act

Re: Trolls & how-to

2004-06-13 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! My reply in between the lines. FV> But if anybody feels there is net abuse going on, here is what you can FV> do: FV> 00) do not reply to the stupid messages. It just fuels the flame war. FV> See "Godwin's law". Ignoring idiots is the best way to make them shut FV> up. Oh yes, that's for su

RE: Trolls & how-to

2004-06-13 Thread That Guy
heek, and hence open to the interpretations that implies... -That Guy -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 10:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls & how-to Perhaps if Antonio showed enough respect to actually get

Re: Trolls & how-to

2004-06-13 Thread frank theriault
list" and not look at their own behaviour as being the problem. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EM

Re: Trolls & how-to

2004-06-13 Thread frank theriault
enheimer From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls & how-to Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:09:31 -0400 Antonio, If you had been around longer you would know how wrong you are. There's no old boy network here. But ther

Re: Trolls

2004-05-27 Thread Lon Williamson
I think a lot of us rile a few feathers before we settle into PDML. I can remember posts of mine that did. Give Antonio some time. Paul Stenquist wrote: On May 18, 2004, at 6:59 PM, graywolf wrote: They completely ignore the fact that if no one was interested the thread would die. Exactly. Ever

Re: Trolls

2004-05-19 Thread Cotty
>Please don't start a discussion of that crackpot theory. There are so >many more worthy of being beatin' to >death first... Well.. Yeah but, no but yeah but no but yeah but no but Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps ___

Re: Trolls

2004-05-19 Thread frank theriault
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Trolls Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 06:42:00 -0700 It's only censorship if the person demanding the restriction actually has the power to enforce it and does. Otherwise it's just someone making a request to desist, or (perhaps

Re: Trolls

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Lets hope there is a good selection of genes out there with all those viruses around. Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 18:24, Peter J. Alling wrote: Please don't start a discussion of that crackpot theory. There are so many more worthy of being beatin' to death first... Cotty wrote: To summarize, Gr

Re: Trolls

2004-05-19 Thread Peter J. Alling
Please don't start a discussion of that crackpot theory. There are so many more worthy of being beatin' to death first... Cotty wrote: To summarize, Graywolf is basically saying that the list has exerted too much negative peer pressure on our dear Antonio. He came rampaging in like a bloody

Re: Trolls

2004-05-19 Thread Norm Baugher
I can only add pervert to the list Keith Whaley wrote: Oh, he's an evangelistic believer/preacher, once tied up with the 7th Day Adventists in some way. I'd rather not say any more about him than that. Visit Google. They have a LOT of things to say about that man. Make up your own mind. Bob

Re: Trolls

2004-05-19 Thread Keith Whaley
Oh, he's an evangelistic believer/preacher, once tied up with the 7th Day Adventists in some way. I'd rather not say any more about him than that. Visit Google. They have a LOT of things to say about that man. Make up your own mind. keith whaley Bob Blakely wrote: Good question. I don't know who

Re: Trolls

2004-05-19 Thread Bob Blakely
Good question. I don't know who Herbert is or why it came out of my keyboard. Edwin Armstrong Inventor of FM modulation. http://www.oldradio.com/archives/people/armstrong.htm Regards, Bob... --- "No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session

RE: Trolls

2004-05-19 Thread Cotty
>To summarize, Graywolf is basically saying that the list has exerted too >much negative peer pressure on our dear Antonio. He came rampaging in like a bloody bull in a china shop. The gene pool always sorts itself out in the end. Heard of Gaia? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People

Re: Trolls

2004-05-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/5/04, GRAYWLOF, discombobulated, offered: > That is not censorship, but as soon as we think we have the right to >tell Cotty, for example, that he is not to talk about it either, we have >stepped >over that line. Yeah well I didn't wann join in yer flamin discussion anyways!!! ;-) Chee

Re: Trolls

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Hi, yes just saw your reply that came to late for my reply ... thanks for the welcome. A. On 19 May 2004, at 09:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/18/2004 8:12:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks Greywolf. Yes, I was coming to the same conclusion myself. A

Re: Trolls

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Not good point. I have been a Windows user since the beginning and still am. A. On 19 May 2004, at 09:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/18/2004 1:20:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is one more frustrated Apple zealot who is trying to justify himself to

RE: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Shawn K.
To summarize, Graywolf is basically saying that the list has exerted too much negative peer pressure on our dear Antonio. -Shawn -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls You are referring

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
I'm sorry Frank I take it back... Peter J. Alling wrote: Spoken like a true lawyer. frank theriault wrote: Sorry, Tom, That is most certainly not censorship. It's call voicing an opinion. Just as you did in your post, and I'm doing now. Censorship is when someone who has some amount of authorit

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
Spoken like a true lawyer. frank theriault wrote: Sorry, Tom, That is most certainly not censorship. It's call voicing an opinion. Just as you did in your post, and I'm doing now. Censorship is when someone who has some amount of authority tells you what you can say or not say, and when you ar

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread graywolf
You are referring to official censorship. There are several other forms. When someone tells others they can not talk about something that is censorship. The only form I recognize as a generally good thing is choosing not to participate in a discussion you do not like. You and I can agree not to

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Antonio Aparicio
LOL. A. On 19 May 2004, at 04:18, frank theriault wrote: I don't trust this man... -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cotty, I'll have a diet coke please. __

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Thanks Greywolf. Yes, I was coming to the same conclusion myself. As a magazine editor I have a wide range of photographic interests, and obviously get to use a lot of different kit through work. Personally though I take mostly people and place photos (the people photos being mainly my 18 month

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread frank theriault
Sorry, Tom, That is most certainly not censorship. It's call voicing an opinion. Just as you did in your post, and I'm doing now. Censorship is when someone who has some amount of authority tells you what you can say or not say, and when you are to say (or not say) it. This is an unmoderated

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
On May 18, 2004, at 6:59 PM, graywolf wrote: They completely ignore the fact that if no one was interested the thread would die. Exactly. Everyone wanted to contribute to the thread. But most didn't like what Antonio was saying. That made him the bad guy. Lets forget this whole mess and start ov

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread frank theriault
While fat German businessmen make pyramids by the pool? (that's 2 MP references in one night, and I'm not talking about the recent Leica re-issue...) -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty <[EM

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread frank theriault
I don't trust this man... -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cotty, I'll have a diet coke please.

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread frank theriault
I've never said no to a beer. Grab me one while you're in the kitchen, Cotty! -knarf "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm pulling up a stool. This could be good. Anyone wa

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread frank theriault
mean? cheers, frank ps: Who's Herbert Armstrong? Never heard of him... -ft "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Cotty
>This is one more frustrated Apple zealot who is trying to justify himself >to us. There's always one in the (Watney's Red) barrel. ouch. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Cotty
We count them in, we count them out ;-) >392 messages in one day from PDML - I can´t handle it. Have to try another >list. >All the best! >Raimo K >> >You can always tell a troll by the constant gush of messages. Whenever >> >anybody else responds to his thread, the troll must answer. He must h

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Keith Whaley
Cotty wrote: Pint o' Watney's, please... Bleedin Watney's bleedin Red bleedin Barrel? Yer B.W. right! Eurgh. You got it Keith. Ta! Cheers, Cotty keith

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
Sam Adams please, (unless you've got something really interesting), pass the pretzels. Cotty wrote: You can always tell a troll by the constant gush of messages. Whenever anybody else responds to his thread, the troll must answer. He must have the last word. I'm pulling up a stool. This cou

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
Shouldn't that be "I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain..." Tom C wrote: Marnie, I didn't make it to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian. :) Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls Dat

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
McDonalds burgers are like 30% beef and the rest is soy. Anyone know if thats true?? -Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls In a message dated 5/18/2004 11:35:15 AM Pacific Sta

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread graywolf
Relax, Antonio, you have just run into the "CENSORS", "I am not interested in that, so you can not discuss it". They completely ignore the fact that if no one was interested the thread would die. I have been fighting them for years. To be honest, sometimes, I like trolls better. Mostly though, e

RE: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Shawn K.
I just went to McDonalds this afternoon... Horse meat is good I must say. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Robert & Leigh Woerner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 4:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls No, horse meat. - Original Message -

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Robert & Leigh Woerner
No, horse meat. - Original Message - From: "Shawn K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 1:43 PM Subject: RE: Trolls > I'm not a big beef fan really. I hear McDonalds burgers are like 30% beef > and the rest i

RE: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Amita Guha
McD's would never do that...soy is way too healthy for them to do that. :) I haven't touched a fast food burger in years, thank you. > -Original Message- > From: Shawn K. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 1:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread TMP
LOL! too funny... tan. -Original Message- From: Anders Hultman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2004 5:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls On Tue, 18 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You really want to get into an argument about whether people sho

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Tom C
quot;, and then... :) Tom C. From: Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 16:09:09 -0500 Sorry man, but the problem isthis is the wrong parts. Norm Antonio Aparicio wrote: a topic of much interest around these parts.

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Norm Baugher
Sorry man, but the problem isthis is the wrong parts. Norm Antonio Aparicio wrote: a topic of much interest around these parts.

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Hi Bob, I presume you are talking about me right? Just a couple of points. I have used a PC since Dos, and every encarnation since. I translated a large slice of it into Spanish, its my job, its what I do. I use Windows daily. I also, as of a year ago use OSX. I think you know my opinions on th

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Cotty
>You can always tell a troll by the constant gush of messages. Whenever >anybody else responds to his thread, the troll must answer. He must have >the last word. I'm pulling up a stool. This could be good. Anyone want a beer? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Anders Hultman
On Tue, 18 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You really want to get into an argument about whether people should eat beef > at all? Because cattle are laying waste to large areas of land with their > grazing? Oh, the cattle are laying waste to large areas of land with their grazing? Good thi

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Tom C
Marnie, I didn't make it to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian. :) Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:39:35 EDT In a message dated 5/18/2004 11:35:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROT

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Kenneth Waller
Here in Michigan, a troll is someone who lives beneath the bridge (Mackinaw that is) HAR HAR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls In a message dated 5/18/2004 9:33:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Un-lucky for us, we have someone who

RE: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Shawn K.
I'm not a big beef fan really. I hear McDonalds burgers are like 30% beef and the rest is soy. Anyone know if thats true?? -Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls

RE: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Shawn K.
Mmmm McDonalds... Well, now I'm going to McDonalds. Look what you've done!!! -Shawn -Original Message- From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls Can't we talk about McDonalds and where they get

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/18/2004 11:35:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can't we talk about McDonalds and where they get their beef from? Please? Tom C. -- You really want to get into an argument about whether people should eat beef at all? Because cattle are layin

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Tom C
In that case I diagree with everything you said! :) Tom C. From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Trolls Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:27:56 -0700 EVERY great innovator, in all fields of endeavor, held &qu

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Tom C
Can't we talk about McDonalds and where they get their beef from? Please? Tom C. From: Anders Hultman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 20:22:29 +0200 (MEST) On Tue, 18 May 2004, Antonio Aparicio wrot

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Tom C
I thought a troll was somebody that lived under a bridge and didn't let the Three Billy Goats Gruff cross over to the other side. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 13:39:35 EDT In a message dated

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/18/2004 9:33:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Un-lucky for us, we have someone who hasn't matured beyond this level. Regards, Bob S. --- Frankly, I think that word, that label, gets thrown around much too loosely. Often people just throw it a

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Tom C
ew adults you don't like isn't there?" When I was about 16 and my brother was 12 we were fighting. My Dad made us sit on the couch and hold hands for 15 minutes. Man did that take the fight out! Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sub

Re: Trolls

2004-05-18 Thread Rfsindg
Looks like we have another one. You can always tell a troll by the constant gush of messages. Whenever anybody else responds to his thread, the troll must answer. He must have the last word. This reminds me of my kids. "Well, he poked me first. I just poked him back." Poke, poke, poke, poke

Re: Trolls, the list and linguistics (Was: Moving on!)

2003-04-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
All nationalities have great men and women, and all nationalities at times do bad things. The Hungarians oppressed my Slovak and Rusyn ancestors for a thousand years, but that is in the past, and we all have to get along. Everyone should be proud of his or her heritage, but none of us should grat

Re: Trolls, the list and linguistics (Was: Moving on!)

2003-04-05 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Dan, I added that individual to my shit list a couple of weeks ago. Its the easiest way to deal with the problem. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 clipped all ..

Re: Trolls, the list and linguistics (Was: Moving on!)

2003-04-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Lasse: There are two ways to respond to people, like BR, who make offensive remarks on this list: 1. Ignore them 2. Tell them that you do not condone such rude behavior, and request that they stop. You did neither. Instead, you countered with a rude remark of your own, about BR's nationality

Re: Trolls, the list and linguistics (Was: Moving on!)

2003-04-05 Thread Caveman
Lasse Karlsson wrote: From: "Daniel J. Matyola": Bruce is a troll, Lasse. You are right, Daniel. No, he ain't. Look at his self-portrait: http://pug.komkon.org/00july/JulyOO/4th_july_1999.html cheers, caveman