Goto Player Settings for the kids SqueezeBox in the web interface
Select Menus section
I cannot find that menu in the web interface. I cannot seem to find a
list where I can add or remove menus, besides what I changed in the
custom browse menu.
You can't change the standard menus in SqueezePlay
I normally rate tracks with the IR remote, or from the Web UI. However, with
Touch and Radio, I set ratings using the track context menu action.
Today I tried to do the equivalent from browsing track details through a
classic player (tried transporter knob, Boom knob and IR Remote). i.e.
I think it has always been this way. Do you know if you are viewing the
standard track details or if you have Custom Browse installed and is
showing the Custom Browse track details menu ? If you see a Standard
song info item, you are viewing the Custom Browse version.
It was the Custom Browse
All these issues should hopefully now work correctly in the new Dynamic
Playlist version I just released. You might possibly also need to
upgrade SQL Playlist and Custom Browse plugins if you are using these
since the bug also existed in these plugins.
Ah, many thanks. I was going to have
If you like to find helping the problem, the bug is probably somewhere
inside the following file:
DynamicPlaylist/HTML/EN/plugins/DynamicPlayList/mixerlink65.html
Or in the mixerlink function in this perl file:
DynamicPlaylist/Plugin.pm
I did a bit of poking around, but don't really understand
The current Custom Browse
solution is useful if you like to do something really special but it's
too complex to configure for 80% of the other more normal cases. The
issue is just to find out what would cover 80% of the cases.
The great thing about Custom Browse is that it is customisable. I
Yes there is. CB as it is is a resource hog. It would be cool if it
would run e.g. on a Touch or perform better on low-powered devices
(although it also seems to get better with 7.6).
I'm pretty sure that removing a few options would not significantly reduce the
resources that it uses.
And I'm
The problem is that a lot of code is needed to implement this
flexibility which results in that it takes more time to maintain it and
it definitely takes more time to test new releases.
Yes, I can understand that. Perhaps Developer time is also considered a
resource in this regards.
Some users
Funny side effect: if you hack SqueezePlay not to send this parameter
you can make a Radio present menus exactly like the Boom.
Sounds great - what do I hack to achieve that?
Wouldn't make sense for the Touch as it lacks an explicit 'play'-button though.
But it would be possible to bring up
It scared me away a long time. So much that I didn't care that my music
library was mixed up with (strange :D) music from my wife.
I was an early adopter, before there were quite so many options, and explored
addtional functionality gradually over time.
From what I remember, I just installed
But you will find that if you remove CustomBrowse and TrackStat all of
a sudden it will only use half of that.
I know - but that's not due to a few options, or a bit of code to support the
options.
I actually think it would be better to split CustomBrowse into a smaller plugin
for core stuff,
It's supposed to support a parameter type called track, doesn't that
work ?
Ah, perhaps it's just the documentation that needs updating (I haven't tried it
yet).
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Dynamic_Playlist_plugin
'type' = 'album', # Can be one of: album, artist, genre, year,
It's supposed to support a parameter type called track, doesn't that
work ?
Let me know if it doesn't work because then there has to be some bug
somewhere in my code.
I found it only works in one way, but not how I was intending to use it.
In the web UI, if I click on the PL icon for a track in
Sounds like a bug.
I'm guessing you are launching it from a standard browse menu and not
from a menu based on Custom Browse ? Custom Browse menus should also
work but they work a bit differently.
Yes, I was trying to use from Browse New Music album song. I will try a
custom browse menu.
If
I will try a custom browse menu.
Dynamic Playlist track context works fine when browsing to a track in a custom
browse menu.
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Also the libraries I had set up only included the albums
with the custom tag I had set.
The thing is I have some albums that are multi-channel only and some
that I have both stereo and multi-channel rips of.
I was trying to have two libraries as follows:
Stereo library - all stereo albums and
I think this would be a good thing to implement. I think it should be core,
rather than a plugin.
Sadly, I think you'll be waiting a long time for development of a core solution
to this by the developers. There have been various suggestions around this
area of functionality, such as to
Mostly this is a question for Erland ;-)
I have been developing an alternative MusicIP mixer plugin for Dynamic
Playlists. This borrows heavily on SugerCube, but intends to be easier to
start via dynamic playlist mixer.
i.e. browse to an artist, album, playlist, genre or song, go into mixers
You can configure two libraries in multilibrary plugin: one to contain any song
that is located within a path beginning with C:\, and the other with E:\.
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What part did you struggle with? I found it all quite intuitive. Sounds like
you are almost there if you got a custom tag scanned in and created a library
based on the custom scan content.
You don't need CustomBrowse - you could browse via My Music Libraries.
Hey Kristian, thanks for joining the discussion. Have sent you a pm.
I think I sent a PM too via the forum, however, it doesn't appear to be in my
sent folder.
So in case Kristian didn't get it, I'm also interested in this new development.
Phil
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Whopping? £10x12 = £120 so about 15-20 new CDs per annum.
You get 320 kbit and millions of songs
Seems very reasonable to me.
It's payment for streaming. I can't take the music away with me, and after
years of paying £10 a month, I wouldn't own anything for the money. If Spotify
were to
Phil - could you try the latest version.
Note there are some sports stories such as live football matches which
this can't parse as the web pages are so different from the others.
Seems to be working well.
Thank you!
Phil
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I am using 7.5.1.
I've noticed that sometime recently that the BBC News add-on has stopped
retrieving the news item bodies. I get a list of news headlines, but clicking
on most items reports empty.
On the Touch UI, if I back out of an empty news item, it reports No
information feeds found.
Looks like they have closed the low graphics version of the web sites
which is what I was parsing:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2010/03/news_and_sport_low_graphics_ve.html
Will need some work to make it work again...
:-(
This was my primary source of news stories, as I could quickly
It does not look too hard - its just I am working on other things
(Spotify) at present - give me a couple of days...
You're a star! Couple of days would be marvellous - I thought you were going
to say weeks or months!
Phil
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This is one of those plugins that's totally going to change how I
find new music and listen to it.
I use Spotify to try some music for a new band that I have heard of somewhere
else, but don't use it to discover new artists/albums. i.e. I find it good for
when I know what I am looking for.
I know you mention in the first post that this works with Spotiy
premium - can I double check it doesn't work with Spotify unlimited?
I'd like to know that too. Spotify Premium is a whopping £10 a month, whereas
Spotify Unlimited is £5.
I predominantly listen to local music, rather than
Hi. I'm getting the same problem as Jo-Wie. Adding songs to Playlists in
the other menu doesn't work. I'm on 5.2
I'm not seeing the issue any more. Can you give an exact sequence of steps
that cause the problem? What type of player are you using? Are you trying to
add a track or album? Are
Well, I would rather not have to go this way. I have my music on a
headless Linux server so whenever I have to do something in the Java
GUI I have to open a virtual desktop. Also, I think filters might not
be available in the Linux version of MusicIP, although I have not
really looked into it.
I've figured out the issue. I had not committed some edits, so they hadn't
made it into the build for 5.0, or 5.1, which I released this morning :(
I had made changes to my local server, but built from versions which weren't
labelled correctly, which explains why it worked for me but not you.
I've a problem with the plugin, I cannot add songs to new or existing
playlists.
Hmmm, seems to be working okay for me. Are you using version 5.0? I have made
some changes that I haven't published yet - been meaning to for weeks, but
haven't had time.
About to go out - later I'll see if I
And you don't need to figure out how to get your trackstat ratings in
musicip.
True, but some people might need to figure out how to get musicIP ratings into
TrackStat ;-)
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This method doesnt require filters to be pre-created. It will work
across all types of mixing; genre, album, artist etc so its not just
limited to filter mixing and jerking about with filters in the MusicIP
GUI and then reloading them all the time.
Are these SugarCube settings available for
I think I found the error.
Sorry, I missed this thread, I think. Perhaps because the forum/mailing list
has been broken recently, or because I haven't been reading as I get far too
many duplicate emails due to another upgrade.
I'm the author of Song File Viewer. What is the error you have
Yes, I noticed that, too, but there is an additional precondition. The
Rating item is missing -if the song has been added to the library from
the Browse Folder menu or the Tune In option in the web interface-,
and it has never been played since. It does appear after a regular
library scan (full or
Did you by any chance turn off the refresh options in the TrackStat
settings?
Yes, I did.
Still, I'd expect to be able to rate a track that doesn't have any trackstat
data - when no data is present, it's equivalent to no rating. When rating a
track or playing a track for the first time, it
A while back I noticed that sometimes I didn't get the option to rate a song.
I think I've figured it out now.
If a song has previously been played, then navigating into the song info page
will display the Rating item (if not rated with be unrated).
If the currently playing song is being
Now that 7.5 is official, I've made a new release of my Playlist Manager
plugin. The plugin provides a mechanism for adding single tracks or all tracks
on an album from any Browse list to a selected playlist, to provide an easier
mechanism to manage playlists directly from the SqueezeBox user
Okay, thanks - I'll have a look at implementing that.
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Erland,
I have a SBS plugin that I've been updating recently (currently works for
classic players only), that detects text files in the same folder as the
currently playing song, and makes them available in the song info page. I was
just about to update it to provide jive menus.
For example,
TouchToPlay is the right step for all devices and its a pity that it
wasn't introduced to the Boom.
Whilst I do understand the change for touch devices (although inconsistent and
could be improved), I totally disagree for all other players (classic and
Radio). First instinct is for
Feels like it should either work as it does today or exactly as all the
other menus does. So this means that even if I don't really like it,
I'll probably change it so it on Squeezeplay devices also affects the
IR remote interface while it doesn't on Boom/Classic/Transporter. It
will probably be
I was just confused by navigating a custom-browse menu on my Radio.
I'm very used to TouchToPlay so expected to have a song start after
clicking it. In a CustomBrowse-Menu this opens the options of the track
(which I'd expect on the '+' icon).
I am happy that it brings up options, as I don't
I'm happy if my wife doesn't ask me, why it is different :)
For most 7.4.x users, the current way will be confusing.
For most users that have used existing products, TouchToPlay will be confusing.
After all, it's the new players that have changed, causing a difference,
rather than existing
Welcome to the inner circle. Now you've got the honor to be able to
discuss the higher virtues of TTP vs. bitrate information with Phil
until the cows come home :)
Yeah, I'll take the bait...
I have no interest in bitrate information (nor most other items in More Info)
- I think you miss the
IMHO, the main issue isn't really TouchToPlay, the main issue is that
IR remote uses right arrow button to play (even though there is a play
button on the remote).
It makes little sense on a Touch player (IMO), and no sense on Radio or Classic
players because there are dedicated Play and Add
I'm not sure the latest version of SugarCube works with Dynamic
Playlist, I think Philip Meyer posted a patch in the SugarCube
announcement thread that solved some problem with its Dynamic Playlist
integration.
Yes, I have been tailoring the code to work a bit better with Dynamic Playlist
Phil, is your patch working on SugarCube 2.03 too? And where can I get
that tailored code?
Yes, it was based on SugarCube 2.03. I changed the code predominantly to make
the DynamicPlaylist integration work well. My changes may not work too well
with SugarCube normal mode (I think it does, but
Great! Phil, so far it seems to work pretty fine - no duplicates, no
loop!
The DynamicPlaylist integration works excellent. And it meets the
CustomSkip criteria.
I found an hour today to start to move the DynamicPlaylist integration into a
separate plugin, so I can distribute it as a plugin
I can now say, I'm still getting a lot of repeated and duplicated
tracks in the playlist with your modified version of the plugin.
Check the sugarcube prefs file to see what you have in the stored list of
previous played tracks. You may need to manually remove them and set the
tracknum to 0.
YouTube have just launched Disco a music mixing service of the Last.fm
and pandora ilk. http://www.youtube.com/disco
Interesting, but not sure how that could work on Squeeze players, as it
generates a playlist of videos, and often the videos don't play. Eg. a search
for King Crimson generated
Nevertheless, i gues, that now also the Dynamicplaylist integration of
sugarcube won't work anymore, but that could be improved
I was contemplating making a new plugin to do MusicIP mixes in DynamicPlaylist.
i.e. ask cparker if he wouldn't mind me taking a copy of parts of his code
into a new
Even more importantly, I can't find the API for MusicIP anywhere, so I'm not
sure what the correct syntax is for certain mix parameters any more.
Does anyone have any details for the HTTP mix api?
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This should be what you are looking for...
Many thanks - just what I needed.
Although interestingly, I found a bug in the MusicIP plugin this morning, in
that if I try to create a mix from a genre, it didn't use the selected genre as
the seed
This is happening to me a lot now. I get the same song queued right
after itself quite often. I usually start my playlists with 10-20 songs,
or an album. I guess you have to always keep your playlist under 20 to
avoid it?
I think you'll find that if you have set the prefs to avoid dups in the
maybe i got something wrong, but i have no problems with repeated
tracks.
Assuming you select one track and now Sugargucbe selects the next
tracks you can avoid this problem by the use of filters in musicip.
Probably.
I generally play with a filter not rated. My MusicIP headless web server has
I did some more testing with the different settings in the server
settings (Player tab). With the option 'Remember This Many Played
Tracks' set to 20 (the default is 1?) the mentioned problem with
repeating the same songs seems to be gone...
Until you've played 20 songs, then it might be a problem
I'm on 7.4.2 with only the plugin CustomBrowse installed
(DynamicPlaylist is not installed) and i'm having similar issues. When i
pick a song SugarCube nicely adds the next one. But when i skip the song
SugarCube keeps adding the same songs over and over again. Also when i
use fast foward
Can you release your revised code for review and explain your comments
regarding unsafe. I assume you refering to the unique array? Which is
used temporarily during the selection and then wiped once the track is
selected. I think it would be pretty impressive if this caused an issue
in use but
Another thing I've noticed is that if I am playing a song with one song queued
up, if I don't like the next song and delete it from the dynamic playlist, it
tries to add a new one to play next, but most of the time it picks the same
song.
I think this is because it is building the MIP mix from
Another thing I've noticed is that if I am playing a song with one song queued
up, if I don't like the next song and delete it from the dynamic playlist, it
tries to add a new one to play next, but most of the time it picks the same
song.
I found the bugs that were causing this too.
It
Anyone using Dynamic Playlist, do you use any feature in SugarCube
besides the default settings ? which ?
Not really.
I would choose a particular filter, and would perhaps select different recipies
from time to time.
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Dynamic Playlist uses two functions in its integration:
- getDynamicPlayLists
- getNextDynamicPlayListTracks
So these are probably a good place to start. I think the wiki
documentation of what they are supposed to do should be fairly correct:
The reason I ask is that it has felt like the Dynamic Playlist
integration is pretty different from the other SugarCube usage so it
might even be easier to maintain it if it was a separate plugin. It
won't work if you use all the SugarCube features, as that would mean
duplicating a lot of code.
I think it would therefore be safe to assume that Dynamic Playlist
functionality doesnt work ;)
I've had a quick look through the code patched it up, so it seems to be working
for me.
I think my changes are limited to the getNextDynamicPlayListTracks method that
Erland pointed me at.
I've
I've had a quick look through the code patched it up, so it seems to be
working for me.
I also notice errors trying to read sugarcube prefs:
[00:50:08.9656] Slim::Control::Request::notify (2132) Error: Failed notify:
Can't call method get on an undefined value at
Another adjustment needed - after calling selecttrack to choose the next track
from MIP matches, it needs to get a track object from the url:
my $seltrack = selecttrack($client, \...@unique);
$track =
Great! I'll give it a go.
Some questions though:
Does it still provide support for playing as a Dynamic Playlist?
Is it possible to totally disable Now and Next (as Dynamic Playlist will add
the next song in advance to the playlist, I can see it there).
Is there a way to set a filter to be
Does it still provide support for playing as a Dynamic Playlist?
Probably... but I dont guarantee it, nobody has reported it doesnt work
but then I dont know how many people use this functionality.
I can't seem to get SugarCube 2.03 to work at all.
I restarted the server, went into player
[20:50:11.2754] Slim::Control::Request::execute (1942) Error: While trying to
run function coderef [Slim::Control::Queries::statusQuery]: [Can't locate
object method isRemote via package
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::ProtocolHandler at
P:/Music/SlimServer/trunk/server/Slim/Player/Song.pm line 698.
I think it would therefore be safe to assume that Dynamic Playlist
functionality doesnt work ;)
Dynamic Playlist is working fine on its own, and with SugarCube 1.8.4.
I could take a look at Dynamic Playlist and SugarCube 2.03 code in combination
to see where the issue lies, but don't know where
1). Move all the optional action to take while not idle support out
of SrvrPowerCtrl and into a beefed up mac+linux+windows friendly
PreventStandby plugin.
Fine.
2). Make the to mysqueezebox.com more generic so that one could
pick other alternate servers (i.e. a TinySC) to to.
Hmmm, I
But I didn't know that there was such a small
difference in terms of actual power savings. Knowing this now, I'm
tempted to re-jigg SrvrPowerCtrl to offer just sleep, ala OS X. Users
could specify S3 or hibernation in the settings.
What do you think? Would 'simpler is better' really be better
This is the kind of thing that will leave tufts of your hair lying in
small drifts on the floor.
It was/is driving me nuts!
I had tried all sorts of things; I'd unplugged network cable, etc.
However, it turned out to be something to do with a BIOS setting to wake up
computer via keyboard.
Try using the task manager or the sysinternals process explorer to make
sure there are no spurious SCPowerTool.exe instances hanging around in
the background.
I'd already checked if it was something to do with my use of WOSB.exe for alarm
wakeup, and found a few old exe's lying around. I assume
I use Server Power Control to Suspend or Hibernate my server from players.
This has been working well for a long time, but recently Hibernate hibernates
my server, but then immediately wakes up.
Suspend still works - it suspends until I send a WOL (or it gets close to alarm
time).
I've tried
I can't use the Transporter knob to navigate publicradiofan.com listed
programs. However, IR Remote works. Not sure if this has ever worked; never
tried it on a Transporter before.
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I am on SbS v7.5, Sugarcube 1.8.4. This was working fine, until a few days ago.
I think my MusicIP library got corrupted when toddler decided to turn the power
off - doh! So I rebuilt the MusicIP library, and I can make mixes through a
player, but my Dynamic Playlist that used to play
Some progress - I restarted MusicIP and SbS, and now I can start the Dynamic
Playlist for SugarCube.
However, it still isn't working as an alarm.
The only thing in the log to note is a single line:
[06:45:28.3634] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::getNextDynamicPlayListTracks (1127)
Couldn't find
On the flip side, there is also the problem that Touch/Radio wakes the server
up too easily :-(
If the local server is sleeping, and you want to get Touch/Radio to switch to
MySqueezebox.com to play internet streams, I find there's no way to prevent it
waking up the local server, due to the
I've only seen that intermittently, using 7.5 embedded. I've yet to
figure out the exact circumstances that cause a spurious local server
wake-up. Are you seeing that consistently?
I was, yes.
Gave up trying to use Radio when server is suspended a few weeks back - I'll
try again.
My mornig alarm is set to play a random songs via Dynamic Playlist using
SugarCube. This stopped working this morning following an SVN update last
night:
[06:45:21.5161] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1165) Warning: [06:45:21.5156]
DBIx::Class::ResultSet::single(): Query returned more than one row.
You should start indicating what SVN checkout you're using: version, branch,
database etc...
Sorry: http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.5/trunk/server revision 29504.
Windows XP
MySQL
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Potentially the problem was caused by a rogue Wake On Standby process that
had some squeezebox server resources locked. There are some serious issues
with Radio sending WOL packets unexpectedly (will post in Radio forum).
I killed wosb.exe to release the locked resources (eg. server.log,
I'll know for sure if it works from an alarm tomorrow morning...
Didn't work as an alarm clock music source. So it works if I start Spicefly
Sugarcube as a Dynamic Playlist manually, but not as an alarm music source.
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I tried creating a custom.map file and it works perfectly - I changed
it to add.single = zap and add.hold = addmenu. Perhaps the add button
had a conflict with another plugin, I just can't figure out which one
because I have turned off almost all of the preloaded plugins and have
only manually
Ok - I tried this and it works exactly as you describe - I can add to
any of my playlists that I set up in Playlist Manager. Still not sure
why the Playlist Manager menu isn't triggered by holding the add button.
Strange. If the plugin is running okay, it should have overridden the add
button
I'm going to try to attach my log file - I looked at it and I may as
well be trying to to read Greek. I see Playlist manager mentioned in
there a few times but not sure if it means anything. When I see the
number of errors in this file I'm amazed my system works at all! (and it
works perfectly for
Doesn't that override any software mappings?
No - this defines the default mappings. The plugin overrides this.
Items in a custom map file would override the default/plugin key definitions
though.
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Based on what I read on Peter's plugin page I think zapping was the
normal behavior for add.hold on an earlier release.
That's right.
Unless there is a conflict with another plugin add.hold should bring up the
playlist
manager menu. The only other plugins I use are MusicInfoScrn and
I'm running 7.3.4 on a new Windows 7 desktop. Players are two SB3's. I
did not use Playlist Manager on my old XP machine but decided to give it
a try with my new setup. I've downloaded the plugin with extension
downloader (I've also tried loading it manually), it shows up in the
plugin list and
I uninstalled some other plugins and re-installed automatically in Extension
Downloader. I updated 7.5.0/trunk and restarted.
Things seem to be a lot better. Haven't noticed any repeated tracks, or
sticking at end of tracks, but I'm still getting a few truncated songs
(transitions to next
Tried to play random unrated songs with year 2009 (a query I wrote and have
been using for ages).
It started up fine, queued 10 songs. The first song played fine, but then it
played again, and again, and then it finally played the next track. Repeat was
definitely off.
After playing a couple
Tonight I was playing random songs, and I tried to rate the currently playing
track 4*. My player became unresponsive to IR commands, and lost contact with
server. The screen came back after a few seconds, but still unresponsive.
I looked in the log, and saw the following:
[19:34:50.1976]
Are you using TrackStat Playlist ?
No.
I rebooted the server and then rated the track from the current playlist on the
same player without any problem (music wasn't playing though).
Not sure what the problem was - might not have been anything to do with
Trackstat.
I may not have much time to
Thanks, this solved my problem! I checked in iTunes and another album
had the alternative spelling of the artist name. So I made them
consistent, rescanned the library, and iTunesUpdate can find the track
now. Still think it is odd that it (is this the plugin or SC itself?)
considers these the
I've noticed that recently my library names with apostrophies are being
displayed escaped again. I think I recall this being fixed in a previous
release.
i.e. Phil's Music appears as Phil\'s Music.
Also, my libraries all have 0 songs. I have tried clicking on Refresh
Libraries, but I get no
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
That should be Godspeed You Black Emperor!
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But I don't understand what's going on: in most places in the log I see
it quoting the full URL for the actual mp3 file. This one has the ! at
the end of the band name. This is exactly how the file is stored on disc
(no surprise there I guess).
If it uses the artist search name database field, it
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