cpd73 wrote:
> Don't use SoundCloud - but I assume you mean the song progress bar (as
> there is no knob). If this does not work I suspect its an issue with the
> SoundCloud plugin.
exactly, the progress bar. When I switch to squeezer-App it works, but
not, when I use with material skin...but
knorst wrote:
> Just a small issue, I just realized, that it is not possible to fast
> forward by moving the knob when streaming long music files from
> SoundCloud...
Don't use SoundCloud - but I assume you mean the song progress bar (as
there is no knob). If this does not work I suspect its
Hi,
first of all, thank you for this stunning skin! It's fantastic!
Just a small issue, I just realized, that it is not possible to fast
forward by moving the knob when streaming long music files from
SoundCloud...
Anyone experiencing the same problem?
cpd73 wrote:
> Material will only fetch 25k items. Handling even this many, let alone
> more, in one list just seems mad. This implies roughly 1k items per
> letter. To me, that is just not practical - especially on a phone. I can
> increase the limit, its just a constant chosen at random, but a
ucw wrote:
> I've tried searching this thread, have run through the files in the
> plugin folder for Material Skin but I can't seem to find a setting or
> string where I can get my 'All Artist'-view to show more than 25.000. I
> have around 25.750 and I miss some artists at the end of the
Hi all,
I've tried searching this thread, have run through the files in the
plugin folder for Material Skin but I can't seem to find a setting or
string where I can get my 'All Artist'-view to show more than 25.000. I
have around 25.750 and I miss some artists at the end of the alphabet.
carldickson wrote:
> I found squeezecontrol drained my battery, and one else get this?
Just for what it's worth, Squeezer also can activate the media controls
on a Wear OS watch. Leaving it on will have some impact on the battery,
but I don't know if it would qualify as draining the battery.
Shozzer wrote:
> To integrate with a Galaxy watch you can open Material in the watch web
> browser - the result is small but can be resized and is actually quite
> usable - even with my fat fingers! It does, however, take a few seconds
> to load into the browser. Failing that, if you have
To integrate with a Galaxy watch you can open Material in the watch web
browser - the result is small but can be resized and is actually quite
usable - even with my fat fingers! It does, however, take a few seconds
to load into the browser. Failing that, if you have SqueezeControl then
that
carldickson wrote:
> How difficult would it be for you to integrate the media options on
> Android OS Watches like the Galaxy? For play, pause etc.
To be honest, no idea! But if you mean in the APK, then I don't think
android allows this - as the APK itself has no media streams, as its not
Hi,
How difficult would it be for you to integrate the media options on
Android OS Watches like the Galaxy? For play, pause etc.
Thanks
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Shozzer wrote:
> Ha! I forget things at the best of times!
>
> I was pleased to see your edit. I use both SB Player and SqueezePlayer,
> and under your original suggestion this would have meant that both would
> start automatically. I didn't think it fair to start suggesting
> additional menu
Ha! I forget things at the best of times!
I was pleased to see your edit. I use both SB Player and SqueezePlayer,
and under your original suggestion this would have meant that both would
start automatically. I didn't think it fair to start suggesting
additional menu options. Since, however, you
Hi! I'm not sure if this belongs in the Material Skin thread or a thread
for Music and Artist Information, but here goes. Recently I've been
having an issue which I don't think has existed forever (I'd think I
would have noticed) where the Material seems to be displaying album art
generated from
Shozzer wrote:
> Hi Craig
>
> Thanks again for your constant development of Material Skin. With regard
> to the APK have you given any thought to re-introducing the ability to
> start SB Player within Material as opposed to having to come out and
> start it separately? It would be greatly
cpd73 wrote:
> Most odd. Just tried in "Duck duck go" browser, and still works as
> expected for me. Which android version? And which version of WebView
> (should be able to find this in Play store)? I'm on Android 13 with
> WebView 108.0.5359.128
I'm on Android 13 with WebView 108.0.5359.128
Hi Craig
Thanks again for your constant development of Material Skin. With regard
to the APK have you given any thought to re-introducing the ability to
start SB Player within Material as opposed to having to come out and
start it separately? It would be greatly appreciated if this were
DavidBulluss wrote:
> Yes, that is what I was expecting but it doen't operate that way for me,
> BROWSE button always takes me to HOME, regardless of touch, press long
> press etc. Oh well...
Most odd. Just tried in "Duck duck go" browser, and still works as
expected for me. Which android
cpd73 wrote:
> It -should- only take you back to the browse view. e.g. If You were
> browsing 'My Music / Album Artists / AC-DC', go to queue page, a
> long-press (or short) on 'Browse' should take you back to the browse
> view - which should still be showing AC-DC's albums. At least that's the
DavidBulluss wrote:
> Yes, photo and my description may be little mis-leading. When in PLAYING
> or QUEUE a long press, short press, or touch of the BROWSE button takes
> me to the HOME page.
It -should- only take you back to the browse view. e.g. If You were
browsing 'My Music / Album Artists
Ron F. wrote:
> I apologize for the extremely late response ... I was preoccupied with
> other things.
>
> I see this behavior on my new Pixel 6a running Android 13, APK 0.3.0. I
> fired up my old Pixel 3a running Android 12, also APK version 0.3.0 -
> and with Android 12 the "Cache will be
cpd73 wrote:
> Odd, as I cannot recreate this. The APK's theme is always dark, and the
> "Cache will be cleared" message is shown by the APK, so is light text on
> a dark background. Which version of android is this? Even setting my
> Android phone to use light, I still get a dark background
kidstypike wrote:
> Your screenshot shows you're on the "Home" page, a log press on the
> Browse button when you're on this page does nothing, press and hold when
> any another page takes you straight back to the "Home" page.
Yes, photo and my description may bea little mis-leading. When in
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- Improve look of selection menus in WebView.
- Set navigation and status bar colors for settings activity.
- Set initial navigation and status bar colors for main activity.
- Use custom toast class so that colors can be configured.
- Remove margin from application settings.#
Bug fix release, changes:
- Remove some shortcut information when in party mode.
- Hide 'Add URL' and 'Move queue' options in party mode.
- Fix 'Scroll to current' in party mode.
- Set 'Scroll to current' shortcut to 'Ctrl+RIGHT'
- Remove 'Ctrl+LEFT' shortcut for 'Go back', as this
DavidBulluss wrote:
> Thanks for that feedback about the browser version, it wasn't totally
> me!
>
> Having said that, I am now trying the APK. Now, this probably is
> something at my end, a short touch of the Browse button takes me to the
> menus as expected (see screencap below). Any longer
cpd73 wrote:
> Yeah, I can see that if I run in a browser. Never noticed before as I
> always use the APK. Anyhow, I'll fix this for the next release, as its a
> bit annoying! It only happens on the 'Browse' button as that uses an SVG
> for its icon.
>
> BTW, you can also click on the text in
DavidBulluss wrote:
> I just tried using Samsung internet app and I had same result, only a
> different looking browser menu for downloads etc. The Duck Duck Go menu
> that pops up is below (screencap from mobile phone).
Yeah, I can see that if I run in a browser. Never noticed before as I
DavidBulluss wrote:
> The download commenced but was reported as "failed". Opening in a
> browser window revealed a blank page, screencap below
>
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>
> Cheers, David
That screenshot is result if a press and hold.
A long press is really only slightly longer than a normal press. It
slartibartfast wrote:
> Weird. It is letting you download or open the browse icon.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
The download commenced but was reported as "failed". Opening in a
browser window revealed a blank page, screencap below
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Cheers, David
DavidBulluss wrote:
> I just tried using Samsung internet app and I had same result, only a
> different looking browser menu for downloads etc. The Duck Duck Go menu
> that pops up is below (screencap from mobile phone).
>
> 39485
>
> Cheers, DavidWeird. It is letting you download or open the
slartibartfast wrote:
> I was using the Material APK but I just tried using Chrome and it works.
> Can you show a screenshot of what you see?
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
I just tried using Samsung internet app and I had same result, only a
different looking browser menu for
DavidBulluss wrote:
> Nup, I have tried and tried so carefully but all I get is the browser
> download menu, a shorter press in the same exact location of course
> takes me to the menus/folders/c as it should. Will eventually try a
> different browser and see if that works. I am using Duck Duck
slartibartfast wrote:
> You could be long pressing slightly above the browse icon and long
> pressing an album or artist instead. Try lower or use the "back" icon
> instead.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Nup, I have tried and tried so carefully but all I get is the browser
download
DavidBulluss wrote:
> I must be doing something wrong, on my android phone a long press on
> BROWSE just brings up a browser menu to Download the image etc. What
> have I missed?
>
> Cheers, DavidYou could be long pressing slightly above the browse icon and
> long
pressing an album or artist
w3wilkes wrote:
> Yes, the back button to My Music. Just long press it, either mouse click
> on a PC or long press on your touch device.
I must be doing something wrong, on my android phone a long press on
BROWSE just brings up a browser menu to Download the image etc. What
have I missed?
audiomuze wrote:
> Thanks, which is the Browse button, it the <-- button?
Yes, the back button to My Music. Just long press it, either mouse click
on a PC or long press on your touch device.
Main system - Rock Solid with LMS 8.3.1 on WHS 2011 - 2 Duets ( both
WiFi, farthest unit gets 60%
Shozzer wrote:
> 39483
That's a mobile/tablet instance. Ona PC the button I pointed to does
the same. Thanks, good to know (and definitely useful), but still
doesn't explain why the search icon isn't better placed next to the
volume slider.
*'puddletag'
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audiomuze wrote:
> Thanks, which is the Browse button, it the <-- button?
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Shozzer wrote:
> Actually you are only one click away from search no matter how deep you
> have searched. Just long press the Browse button.
>
> Steve
Thanks, which is the Browse button?
*'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)* - now packaged in most
Linux distributions.
Actually you are only one click away from search no matter how deep you
have searched. Just long press the Browse button.
Steve
audiomuze wrote:
> Having recently returned to LMS I installed Material Skin and I have to
> say it gives LMS much needed UI lift and I generally find that LMS with
Having recently returned to LMS I installed Material Skin and I have to
say it gives LMS much needed UI lift and I generally find that LMS with
Material Skin does a great job at providing a ubiquitous front-end to my
listening experience. However, the one thing I find really jarring is
that as
oldfolkie wrote:
> If your music folder organization is good, Mp3tag can use the existing
> directory and folder structure and names to populate the metadata for
> you:
>
> https://docs.mp3tag.de/converters/import-tags-from-filenames/
>
> You can select an entire directory and populate the
RobbH wrote:
> By the way, Greg, you are probably aware that the Music Folder view lets
> you open the cue file, just like a folder, and select individual tracks.
> But I wanted to be sure others reading this know that, which is my
> reason for mentioning it here.
Thanks, I didn't know that!
humax99 wrote:
> I find it easier to check the track numbering than it is to correct the
> metadata. My library needs a good sort out of the metadata to align all
> the inconsistent punctuations, artist name formats, etc. This is the
> main reason I use Music Folder browsing as I have at least
Greg Erskine wrote:
> Yes, as I rip to a single WAV file per album browsing through Music
> Folder is next to useless, it only shows the single cue and wav FILE. I
> have always thought to power of LMS was the database it generates. If
> you only want to browse through the Music Folder there
RobbH wrote:
> My guess -- and that's all it is! -- is that when browsing through Music
> Folder, LMS is only showing FILES (as both Bob and Paul have suggested),
> not SONGS. In that mode, LMS may not have access to metadata, so it does
> not know if the files in a folder are part of an album
humax99 wrote:
> Yes, true. I have been caught out with that before! I find it easier to
> check the track numbering than it is to correct the metadata. My library
> needs a good sort out of the metadata to align all the inconsistent
> punctuations, artist name formats, etc. This is the main
slartibartfast wrote:
> The order is only correct if all the track numbers are double digit
> (assuming less than 100 tracks). I have many numbered 1, 2..10, 11
> and then tracks 10 and 11 appear before 1 in Music Folder mode.
> [emoji3]
>
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Yes,
humax99 wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> All the music titles I have seen normally include the track number
> (mostly at the start or after common text) in the title so the natural
> order of the album is presented in a file browser and, therefore, would
> correspond to the correct track order. I have
Grumpy Bob wrote:
> I think browsing using Music Folder sorts tracks alphabetically by
> filename which may not correspond to track order (depending on how the
> files are named), so maybe that option would not always work well.
>
> Robert
Thanks.
All the music titles I have seen normally
humax99 wrote:
> There already is
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Ah, thanks. I did not see this because that menu option (Play album
starting at track) does not appear in Music Folder mode of browsing -
which I always use!
Is there a reason why its not there?
I think
There already is39464
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Ah, thanks. I did not see this because that menu option (Play album
starting at track) does not appear in Music Folder mode of browsing -
which I always use!
Is there a reason why its not there?
humax99 wrote:
> Apologies if this has been covered before.
>
> Would it be possible to add an extra item to the album track kebab drop
> down menu for 'Play from here'. This would allow an album to be played
> from the selected track onwards? e.g. you wish to play from track 5 to
> the end of
Apologies if this has been covered before.
Would it be possible to add an extra item to the album track kebab drop
down menu for 'Play from here'. This would allow an album to be played
from the selected track onwards? e.g. you wish to play from track 5 to
the end of the album so tracks 5 to
slartibartfast wrote:
> It looks OK on a Pixel 3a [emoji3]
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
I had been wondering if you needed to update your tapatalk sig...guess
not :)
Jim
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Redrum wrote:
> I wonder if it's phone specific (i.e. a google pixel thing). I am not
> sure what phone Ron F is using.
>
> Regardless, it's not a big deal (to me). If I press to clear cache and
> get a response of any kind, that's fine.
>
> JimIt looks OK on a Pixel 3a [emoji3]
Sent from my
cpd73 wrote:
> Most odd. Just (today) upgraded my Samsung S20FE to Android 13, and
> still shows fine for me :( Perhaps I just need to see if I can hard-code
> colours for this specific widget.
I wonder if it's phone specific (i.e. a google pixel thing). I am not
sure what phone Ron F is
Redrum wrote:
> I have seen this, but never thought to report. Here is what it looks
> like. Pixel 7, Android 13. Material 0.3.0 (according to F-Droid)
Most odd. Just (today) upgraded my Samsung S20FE to Android 13, and
still shows fine for me :( Perhaps I just need to see if I can hard-code
cpd73 wrote:
> Odd, as I cannot recreate this. The APK's theme is always dark, and the
> "Cache will be cleared" message is shown by the APK, so is light text on
> a dark background. Which version of android is this? Even setting my
> Android phone to use light, I still get a dark background
Lso wrote:
> Is there any chance for a raspberry clean shutdown buttom in material
> skin, i could really use functionality.
> Kind regards
> Lars
Yes, but you will need to add this yourself via a custom action - see
"Custom menu entries and actions" in
Ron F. wrote:
> After updating the Material plugin, (by doing a git pull,) I clear it's
> cache on my phone, (Android 13.) When I hit the "Tap here to clear
> cache" option in the APK Settings / Application menu I get a white msg
> field, but no longer is anything displayed in that area. I
Is there any chance for a raspberry clean shutdown buttom in material
skin, i could really use functionality.
Kind regards
Lars
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Orange wrote:
> @cpd73
>
> first of all thank you very much for all your work on this skin.
>
> would it be possible to add "thumbs up" and "thumbs down" buttons on the
> bottom bar for the pandora plugin?
>
> Best wishes
These buttons replace the repeat/shuffle buttons - which are not
@cpd73
first of all thank you very much for all your work on this skin.
would it be possible to add "thumbs up" and "thumbs down" buttons on the
bottom bar for the pandora plugin?
Best wishes
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cpd73 wrote:
> I've implemented this in the 3.1 for a future 3.1.0 release (this will
> probably NOT be the next release). Now the button cycles; off, single,
> all, DSTM. Long press still opens DSTM options. When changing the
> 'repeat' from DSTM to repeat off Material will first save the
cpd73 wrote:
> For this you currently need to set DSTM to 'Disabled' (long press the
> infinity icon will show DSTM options). The issue is that DSTM has no
> on/off setting - just a single disabled/mixer_a/mixer_b/etc. setting. So
> whilst Material could just switch off, to switch back on the
wactuary wrote:
> On the player screen above the play list is a toggle that loops between
> Repeat Track, Repeat Playlist and DSTM (if that plug in is enabled). It
> would be great if there were a 4th option, the unhighlighted icon, where
> all repeat functionality is paused. So leave the
wactuary wrote:
> On the player screen above the play list is a toggle that loops between
> Repeat Track, Repeat Playlist and DSTM (if that plug in is enabled). It
> would be great if there were a 4th option, the unhighlighted icon, where
> all repeat functionality is paused. So leave the
cpd73 wrote:
> As a compromise, what about double-click?
Sorry...I haven't been around for a couple of days, but WOW, yes that is
awesome! Working great on PC and Android...thanks very much for this!
Cheers, Nico.
On the player screen above the play list is a toggle that loops between
Repeat Track, Repeat Playlist and DSTM (if that plug in is enabled). It
would be great if there were a 4th option, the unhighlighted icon, where
all repeat functionality is paused. So leave the infinity icon, but
shade it
Now that Craig has given the url info needed for your guests to access a
specific player at a party here is what you need to (safely) generate
some QR codes.
1. Guests need to access your WiFi. Use https://qifi.org/ to generate a
QR code. Unlike other web resources that do this QiFi is entirely
cpd73 wrote:
> To use party-mode you can either:
> > >
- Set 'Material Skin (Party)' as the default skin, and the just
> give users your LMS url (e.g. http: //SERVER:9000)
- Use http: //SERVER:9000/materialparty/ - this is the URL used by
> 'Material Skin (Party)'
- Use http:
d6jg wrote:
> On a serious note. Did I read that Craig had added a party mode? Am I
> correct that Material must be default skin for this to work and that you
> need to specify player by Mac code in url?
> Anybody got an example?
To use party-mode you can either:
- Set 'Material Skin
On a serious note. Did I read that Craig had added a party mode? Am I
correct that Material must be default skin for this to work and that you
need to specify player by Mac code in url?
Anybody got an example?
I was looking into generating a QR code for a festive gatherImg which is
dead easy if
I cant get Material to work on my Commodore Amiga 1200 from 1992!
Could it be because the OS has no browser and the machine has no
networking ability?
Jim
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SlimChances wrote:
> I am getting a weird pattern of flashing green bars at the bottom of
> Material. It only appears on the Material page on my Linux Mint PC on
> Brave browser (a chrome browser). Does not seem to happen on Firefox
> with Material
Sorry, but I have no idea. Have you tried
I am getting a weird pattern of flashing green bars at the bottom of
Material. It only appears on the Material page on my Linux Mint PC on
Brave browser (a chrome browser). Does not seem to happen on Firefox
with Material . Admittedly my computer is brand new, just built and I
am working out
Hi
Is it possible to display selected fields in the list of queued tracks
on the right hand side? It would be nice to see bit depth & sample rate
for when I'm doing A-B testing.
Thanks
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> It's not shown in this view when tech info is displayed.
I see, okay, thanks.
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kidstypike wrote:
> Queue track position/total tracks seems to be missing using
> SQ-X/material or web browser on a PC.
It's not shown in this view when tech info is displayed.
*Material debug:* 1. Launch via http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json
(Use http:
Queue track position/total tracks seems to be missing using
SQ-X/material or web browser on a PC.
Seems fine using portrait on android phone (web browser and .apk) but
missing in landscape.
Or am I mis-remembering?
Thank you.
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cpd73 wrote:
> Bug fix release, changes:
>
> > >
- Fix toggling of power when power button replaces player icon.
- Show ESP32 and pCP configuration button in 'Player settings'
> dialog when called from 'Information' and 'Manage players' dialogs.
- Rename 'Alt' keyboard shortcuts
cpd73 wrote:
>
> Fix toggling of power when power button replaces player icon.
>
I'm wondering, did you find something? If so, it would go a long way to
reassuring myself that I am not entirely crazy. :). My observations
(appear to have) started when I enabled that option.
Jim
slartibartfast wrote:
> I still haven't been offered the new APK from f-droid. I didn't think it
> took this long.
0.3.0 is on f-droid - see
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.craigd.lmsmaterial.app/ - as to why
you have not been informed of an update, not sure. Perhaps try clearing
f-droid's
I still haven't been offered the new APK from f-droid. I didn't think it
took this long.
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Bug fix release, changes:
- Fix toggling of power when power button replaces player icon.
- Show ESP32 and pCP configuration button in 'Player settings' dialog
when called from 'Information' and 'Manage players' dialogs.
- Rename 'Alt' keyboard shortcuts to 'Option' for macOS.
- Fix
nickey wrote:
> Okie dokie.
>
> At the risk of outstaying my welcome :p : how about swipe right on a
> favourite list item to play it? (and a corresponding favourites option
> in the interface settings to enable or disable that?)
As a compromise, what about double-click?
*Material debug:*
RobbH wrote:
> I think Wayne (Angry Goat) has said that synchronization is a
> hit-or-miss proposition, depending mainly on the phone. I've had it work
> satisfactorily with various Pixel phones. But as Jim said, the subject
> is probably best pursued in the SB Player thread.
Ah, maybe that's
Redrum wrote:
> 1)
> 3) Sync with other players? I wasn't aware. I use SB Player for ear bud
> listening exclusively. Maybe post on the SB Player site? Wayne is pretty
> good about responding.
>
> Jim
Yeah, I basically like to put all available players in a sync group
permanently, allowing
nickey wrote:
>
> Yeah, I purchased SB Player around the same time as Squeeze Ctrl,
> thanks. I also use Squeeze Player, which seems to do pretty much the
> same thing. The only thing that would be nice to have when using my
> android phone as a player (here he goes again :) ) is proper
>
nickey wrote:
> If you're saying you do use the direct play button on the PC browser
> version, yet don't think about it on the android side, I would qualify
> that as puzzling too. :)
>
>
>
> I don't think I've said anything to suggest otherwise, in case that
> might be why you felt it was
Redrum wrote:
> I think that's because many (including myself), did not notice the
> difference between desktop and mobile, until you pointed it out :). I
> guess I just handle the two tap without even thinking about it.
If you're saying you do use the direct play button on the PC browser
nickey wrote:
> It would seem that I'm the only one who finds the direct play button
> useful, and if I'm honest that's puzzling...
I think that's because many (including myself), did not notice the
difference between desktop and mobile, until you pointed it out :). I
guess I just handle the
carsten_h wrote:
> Normally swipe left and right in a list are for deleting or selecting or
> moving or something like that entries, not for playing. I think this
> will be not so good.
Hi...yeah...well actually it's precisely because Material already
handles swipe gestures that I thought my
nickey wrote:
> how about swipe right on a favourite list item to play it?
Normally swipe left and right in a list are for deleting or selecting or
moving or something like that entries, not for playing. I think this
will be not so good.
pi4 4gb picoreplayer with lms and squeezelite for usb
Franck@ wrote:
> On the help page, the tooltips for the "Go home" and "Go back" buttons
> remain in English.
Fixed, thanks for reporting.
Franck@ wrote:
> Surprisingly, the help page is displayed with a darker background in
> French than in English. (I'm using the "light" theme.)
I see no
cpd73 wrote:
> I think index.html.fr would be easier - then all the strings are all
> together. I've updated Material in git to only have the basic HTML in
> index.html, and moved the common header stuff (to set font, colours,
> etc) into separate files. Hopefully this should make things
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